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(ESPN)   With baseball comes the crack of the bat. Unless you are the Yankees, cause that was the sound of Curtis Granderson's forearm   (espn.go.com) divider line 79
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2013-02-24 11:20:21 PM
I hope he gets better soon.  But I also hope the Yankees suck more than the Lastros.
 
2013-02-25 12:15:21 AM
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Thank you, Yankees.
 
2013-02-25 05:03:35 AM
Yeah, that's gonna hurt.

Still doesn't beat Dravecky's pitch to Tim Raines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4os7Wa8gtM

Starts at @1:20

Still one of the worst things I've ever seen in sports; the arm just about wraps around the front to touch him in the middle of the back.
 
2013-02-25 06:27:08 AM
That is a tough injury to recover from but A-Rod knows a great doctor in Miami. I am sure he could provide him sort of substance to help him out.
 
2013-02-25 06:53:52 AM
Granderson? More like granderDAD.
 
2013-02-25 07:26:51 AM
Wow! I didn't even know baseball was still played.
 
2013-02-25 08:28:50 AM

Tophersky: Wow! I didn't even know baseball was still played.


Ohboyherewego.jpg
 
2013-02-25 08:38:56 AM
Man, I had Travis Hafner in my "First Yankee to the DL" pool.

I always liked Granderson as a Tiger - hope he recovers fast.
 
2013-02-25 08:44:12 AM
While this sucks, it is funny to see all the sports reports and super Yankee fans going "WE NEED TO TRADE FOR [Insert overpriced name here]!!!"
 
2013-02-25 08:48:19 AM
Are the Yankees that worried anyway?  They always start slow until their payroll advantage catches up.  Find me a season where there wasn't a Fark Sports headline that read, "It's May 1st, and the _______ are leading the AL East, with the Yankees [a schload of] games back."
 
2013-02-25 08:49:22 AM

cleveoh: Man, I had Travis Hafner in my "First Yankee to the DL" pool.

I always liked Granderson as a Tiger - hope he recovers fast.


Granderson has always been a great, classy guy.  It was a shame to have to trade him but there's zero doubt in my mind that the Tigers ended up with the better end of that deal - basically Granderson for Austin Jackson, Max Scherzer, and Phil Coke?

Honestly, if it was just Granderson for Scherzer or Granderson for Jackson, I'd think the Tigers got at least even value.  Both of them?  Plus a decent left-handed reliever?
 
2013-02-25 08:53:56 AM
My Yankee fan friends were angry at the lack of moves this offseason, but at least Gardner can fill in for the April.

Nobody dislikes the Grandyman
 
2013-02-25 09:08:38 AM

thecpt: Nobody dislikes the Grandyman


Don't say his name five times, though.
 
2013-02-25 09:15:20 AM
This along with A-rod being out is a blessing in disguise. We need to go to the farm, and soon. Let the youth cut their teeth on the first half of the season, hopefully keep them close through the all star break, then cycle (no pun intended) in the older guys for some power.

At least tickets might get cheaper.
 
2013-02-25 09:19:06 AM
I couldn't figure out why I was happy and then I saw that the Yankees are miserable.
 
2013-02-25 09:19:32 AM

WTF Indeed: While this sucks, it is funny to see all the sports reports and super Yankee fans going "WE NEED TO TRADE FOR [Insert overpriced name here]!!!"


Wait, you mean to tell me that going after Soriano, who is owed $18 million next year, would be a bad move unless the Cubs somehow pick up, like, 95% of the contract? Craziness

Also, WFANTrades on twitter should get some great material today. You just know someone will call in to propose "Nova and Hughes for Trout"
 
2013-02-25 09:21:54 AM

Rex_Banner: Wait, you mean to tell me that going after Soriano, who is owed $18 million next year, would be a bad move unless the Cubs somehow pick up, like, 95% of the contract? Craziness

Also, WFANTrades on twitter should get some great material today. You just know someone will call in to propose "Nova and Hughes for Trout"


I loved the Jon Heyman yesterday "Now is the time for the Yanks to trade for Soriano or Veron Wells." It's like these writers still think it's 1984 and a coked up Boss is sitting in his office demanding crazy things.  I'd have no problem with the direction the Yankees were taking if we weren't saddled with the A-Rod deal.
 
2013-02-25 09:37:09 AM

WTF Indeed: Rex_Banner: Wait, you mean to tell me that going after Soriano, who is owed $18 million next year, would be a bad move unless the Cubs somehow pick up, like, 95% of the contract? Craziness

Also, WFANTrades on twitter should get some great material today. You just know someone will call in to propose "Nova and Hughes for Trout"

I loved the Jon Heyman yesterday "Now is the time for the Yanks to trade for Soriano or Veron Wells." It's like these writers still think it's 1984 and a coked up Boss is sitting in his office demanding crazy things.  I'd have no problem with the direction the Yankees were taking if we weren't saddled with the A-Rod deal.


The yanks are in a bad position, especially in terms of long term because of A-roid deal. The Mets are are strong position for long term growth. Madness. Though I'm sure the Mets will find some way to suck they always do.
 
2013-02-25 09:41:19 AM
Grandy got Gronked.
 
2013-02-25 09:53:43 AM

thecpt: My Yankee fan friends were angry at the lack of moves this offseason, but at least Gardner can fill in for the April.

Nobody dislikes the Grandyman


They were looking to switch Gardner back to CF this season anyway so this more or less cements that.  I'd really like to see some internal promotion over pulling in someone like Alfonso Soriano... Ronnier Mustelier is just waiting, unless there is some requirement that any new additions to the team must be 35+ to keep the average age up.

 
2013-02-25 09:54:43 AM

H31N0US: This along with A-rod being out is a blessing in disguise. We need to go to the farm, and soon. Let the youth cut their teeth on the first half of the season, hopefully keep them close through the all star break, then cycle (no pun intended) in the older guys for some power.

At least tickets might get cheaper.


If tickets get cheaper, how will the Yankees buy championships???
 
2013-02-25 10:30:55 AM

RoyFokker'sGhost: Yeah, that's gonna hurt.

Still doesn't beat Dravecky's pitch to Tim Raines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4os7Wa8gtM

Starts at @1:20

Still one of the worst things I've ever seen in sports; the arm just about wraps around the front to touch him in the middle of the back.


Dravecky was a born-again who made frequent promotional appearances on behalf of his god.

Can't help but chuckle every time I remember how his career ended. His god really looking out for him.
 
2013-02-25 10:54:31 AM

SkylineRecords: H31N0US: This along with A-rod being out is a blessing in disguise. We need to go to the farm, and soon. Let the youth cut their teeth on the first half of the season, hopefully keep them close through the all star break, then cycle (no pun intended) in the older guys for some power.

At least tickets might get cheaper.

If tickets get cheaper, how will the Yankees buy championships???


The old fashioned way?
 
2013-02-25 10:59:56 AM

Generation_D: Dravecky was a born-again who made frequent promotional appearances on behalf of his god.

Can't help but chuckle every time I remember how his career ended. His god really looking out for him.


Yeah, it's funny when someone with different beliefs than you suffers a catastrophic injury that results in an amputation.

You're awful.
 
2013-02-25 11:07:09 AM

Yanks_RSJ: Yeah, it's funny when someone with different beliefs than you suffers a catastrophic injury that results in an amputation.

You're awful.


It would only be okay to chuckle if Dravecky's career-ending injury occurred while a member of the Yankees.

/still laugh about Cory Lidle
//laughed about Granderson
///Thurman Munson is still funny, too
 
2013-02-25 11:11:21 AM

The Crepes of Wrath: /still laugh about Cory Lidle
//laughed about Granderson
///Thurman Munson is still funny, too


What a sad life you must have.

Oh, Philly, that explains it.
 
2013-02-25 11:13:49 AM
Happ broke his foot pitching to the Yankees previously, so this makes us even now.

/not that it'll help the Yanks this season.
//Jays fan
///coming for that AL East lead this year
 
2013-02-25 11:28:18 AM

BudTheSpud: Happ broke his foot pitching to the Yankees previously, so this makes us even now.

/not that it'll help the Yanks this season.
//Jays fan
///coming for that AL East lead this year


I still feel bad for Granderson and I'm sure it wasn't intentional, but hey Dickey takes the mound today!  Plus Bautista's wrist held up for a homer!
 
2013-02-25 11:35:37 AM

CipollinaFan: SkylineRecords: H31N0US: This along with A-rod being out is a blessing in disguise. We need to go to the farm, and soon. Let the youth cut their teeth on the first half of the season, hopefully keep them close through the all star break, then cycle (no pun intended) in the older guys for some power.

At least tickets might get cheaper.

If tickets get cheaper, how will the Yankees buy championships???

The old fashioned way?


'Roids?
 
2013-02-25 11:53:04 AM

H31N0US: This along with A-rod being out is a blessing in disguise. We need to go to the farm, and soon. Let the youth cut their teeth on the first half of the season, hopefully keep them close through the all star break, then cycle (no pun intended) in the older guys for some power.  At least tickets might get cheaper.


I agree, because the Yankees are on a steep downslope starting this year.  The whole team is old.  A-Rod will miss most of the year, and he's not much above the league-average 3B these days.  Jeter is 38, and coming off a major injury.  It hurts him to even send a gift basket these days.

Granderson's out 2 months.  Tex has hit like a league-average 1B for the last three years.  Austin Romine might be the Opening Day catcher.

Gardner, Ichiro, and Juan Rivera or someone will probably man the outfield.  The rotation is CC Sabathia, two senior citizens, and two "Meh." guys.  Mariano Rivera is Mariano Rivera, but he's also 43 and coming off a major injury.  And get used to the phrase "Eduardo Nunez, DH", because it will happen more often than anyone wants, especially once Hafner somehow hurts himself for the 20th consecutive year.

Just on paper they don't look that good even if everyone is healthy.  Cano and CC are stars, then there's a few guys best described as "still pretty good if their (body part) holds up", and then there's a lot of surprisingly expensive Meh.  And everyone will not be healthy.

Worse, the farm system isn't great.  Manny Banuelos, maybe Gary Sanchez, maybe Dellin Betances will help in 2013.  Maybe Pineda comes back from his shoulder injury and fills in for whichever starter goes on the DL with the gout, or the consumption, or whatever is it that sidelines pitchers from the 19th century.  After that, there isn't much there for this year.
 
2013-02-25 12:13:47 PM

chimp_ninja: H31N0US: This along with A-rod being out is a blessing in disguise. We need to go to the farm, and soon. Let the youth cut their teeth on the first half of the season, hopefully keep them close through the all star break, then cycle (no pun intended) in the older guys for some power.  At least tickets might get cheaper.

I agree, because the Yankees are on a steep downslope starting this year.  The whole team is old.  A-Rod will miss most of the year, and he's not much above the league-average 3B these days.  Jeter is 38, and coming off a major injury.  It hurts him to even send a gift basket these days.

Granderson's out 2 months.  Tex has hit like a league-average 1B for the last three years.  Austin Romine might be the Opening Day catcher.

Gardner, Ichiro, and Juan Rivera or someone will probably man the outfield.  The rotation is CC Sabathia, two senior citizens, and two "Meh." guys.  Mariano Rivera is Mariano Rivera, but he's also 43 and coming off a major injury.  And get used to the phrase "Eduardo Nunez, DH", because it will happen more often than anyone wants, especially once Hafner somehow hurts himself for the 20th consecutive year.

Just on paper they don't look that good even if everyone is healthy.  Cano and CC are stars, then there's a few guys best described as "still pretty good if their (body part) holds up", and then there's a lot of surprisingly expensive Meh.  And everyone will not be healthy.

Worse, the farm system isn't great.  Manny Banuelos, maybe Gary Sanchez, maybe Dellin Betances will help in 2013.  Maybe Pineda comes back from his shoulder injury and fills in for whichever starter goes on the DL with the gout, or the consumption, or whatever is it that sidelines pitchers from the 19th century.  After that, there isn't much there for this year.


Romine missed about all of last season and is slated for AAA; barring something crazy happening get ready for the tandem of Cervelli/Stewart.

Banuelos is out all this season for Tommy John so if he makes an impact, it might be in 2014.  Betances is going to be a AAA starter, but he's got the potential for some spot starts as the season goes.  Brett Marshall might come up this season at some point as well.  Pineda might be ready by July, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
 
2013-02-25 12:34:32 PM

Tophersky: Wow! I didn't even know baseball was still played.


Yeah! While you were tweeting with your sausage pirate friends about actresses' gowns, there was some real men stuff going on!
 
2013-02-25 12:40:03 PM
Maybe Granderson will only strike out 150 times this year instead of his 220.

/sorta serious
 
2013-02-25 01:00:08 PM

Yanks_RSJ: Oh, Philly, that explains it.


Hey now, I was born there. *chucks 9-volt battery at Yanks_RSJ*
 
2013-02-25 01:05:14 PM
Yankees pretty much HAVE to go small now. Unless you count Hafner, the only power in the lineup is Teixeira (whose bat generally vanishes until the end of spring anyway) and Cano.

Also consider that of your likely 9-1-2 part of the lineup (Garnder-Jeter-Ichiro), two of them will be 39 this year.

Also, ITT: people still under the mistaken assumption that money= championships.
 
2013-02-25 01:06:18 PM

Killer Cars: Yanks_RSJ: Oh, Philly, that explains it.

Hey now, I was born there. *chucks 9-volt battery at Yanks_RSJ*


You must have moved at an early age if all you're bringing are 9-volts.

/D cells are where the action is
 
2013-02-25 01:06:46 PM

Killer Cars: *chucks 9-volt battery at Yanks_RSJ*


Is there anything besides smoke detectors that use 9-volts anymore?

Oh yeah, effects pedals.
 
2013-02-25 01:06:49 PM

RoyHobbs22: Maybe Granderson will only strike out 150 times this year instead of his 220.


Even with the whiffs, he's a pretty solid offensive player.   The problem is that the Yankees insisted on batting him 2nd so often, even though he's not super at getting on base and it wastes some of his power.

This year, they don't have nearly as much power, but the 2012 roster suggested a #2 who could get on base and sit there.  Bat Granderson 5th or 6th and let him swing for the fences from there.
 
2013-02-25 01:07:49 PM

H31N0US: Is there anything besides smoke detectors that use 9-volts anymore?


Ask your mom.  Zing!
 
2013-02-25 01:14:37 PM

The Bestest: Yankees pretty much HAVE to go small now. Unless you count Hafner, the only power in the lineup is Teixeira (whose bat generally vanishes until the end of spring anyway) and Cano.

Also consider that of your likely 9-1-2 part of the lineup (Garnder-Jeter-Ichiro), two of them will be 39 this year.


It's not so much "going small" as it is "going bad".  They're replacing 20+ HR guys like Martin, the Jones/Ibanez hybrid, and Swisher with ... probably Cervelli and Juan Rivera.  And maybe some Eduardo Nunez.  And 5 games of Hafner before he injures himself during the National Anthem.

"Going small" implies to me that they'd be getting impressive speed and defense out of their lineup, and other than Ichiro/Gardner, they don't have a ton of that either.
 
2013-02-25 01:20:01 PM
see, Eduardo Nunez wouldn't be a bad option to plug in there (he's developing real well offensively) if he wasn't such a defensive liability.

I dunno.. maybe they can get Matsui to un-retire and play RF? He can't be that much worse than the other options at this point.
 
2013-02-25 01:23:01 PM

The Bestest: I dunno.. maybe they can get Matsui to un-retire and play RF? He can't be that much worse than the other options at this point.


The Mariners are supposedly dangling Casper Wells for a rosin bag and a Central American cleaning lady.
 
2013-02-25 01:35:38 PM

RoyHobbs22: Maybe Granderson will only strike out 150 times this year instead of his 220.

/sorta serious


This thing about strikeouts being a horrible flaw for hitters needs to start going the way of judging pitchers by their win totals.

The Grandyman™ struck out 195 times last year. He also posted a 116 OPS+ at centerfield, hit 43 homers, and was good for 3.9 oWAR. The year before, when he struck out 169 times, he put up a 142 OPS+ and was good for six wins above replacement on offense.

But of course, because he strikes a lot, he's clearly a horrible hitter.
 
2013-02-25 01:56:45 PM
roids, they not only give you small nads but also brittle bones. of course after baseball killed itself in the mid 90s no one really cares anyways
 
2013-02-25 01:58:53 PM

ThreeFootSmurf: roids, they not only give you small nads but also brittle bones. of course after baseball killed itself in the mid 90s no one really cares anyways


*pats head*
 
2013-02-25 02:02:57 PM

Cagey B: This thing about strikeouts being a horrible flaw for hitters needs to start going the way of judging pitchers by their win totals.


Strikeout rate isn't completely useless-- it's a (poor) indicator of batting average.

The problem is that "high strikeout rate" lumps together two categories of hitter:
1) Guys like Nick Swisher who work the count and take close pitches in order to draw 70-100 walks per year.
2) Hackmasters like Mark Trumbo.

You'd be better off looking at the various rates, like percentage of pitches swung at in and out in the zone.  Granderson's somewhere in the middle there, which is fine because he hits the ball hard.

And it's not like "low strikeout rate" means a guy is a good hitter.  Here are the 10 "active" (including Vizquel, I guess) players (min 3000 PA) with the lowest career strikeout rates (given as AB/SO):
1. Juan Pierre 15.97
2. Placido Polanco 13.49
3. Jason Kendall 11.12
4. Yadier Molina 10.40
5. Dustin Pedroia 10.30
6. Cesar Izturis 10.10
7. Yuniesky Betancourt 10.06
8. Ichiro Suzuki 9.94
9. Omar Vizquel 9.74
10. Aaron Miles 9.62

Imagine that was your opening day lineup, and you were getting career-average performances from everyone.  Do you feel good about scoring lots of runs?  Opposing bullpens would love you, because the starter could probably string together a complete game in 75 pitches.
 
2013-02-25 02:05:57 PM

The Bestest: see, Eduardo Nunez wouldn't be a bad option to plug in there (he's developing real well offensively) if he wasn't such a defensive liability.


Am I the only one who thinks that Nunez sucks? Everyone else (not just on Fark but out in real life!) seems to love the guy but I just don't see it.
 
2013-02-25 02:08:04 PM

Rex_Banner: The Bestest: see, Eduardo Nunez wouldn't be a bad option to plug in there (he's developing real well offensively) if he wasn't such a defensive liability.

Am I the only one who thinks that Nunez sucks? Everyone else (not just on Fark but out in real life!) seems to love the guy but I just don't see it.


I'm baffled by the love too.
 
2013-02-25 02:09:40 PM

Rex_Banner: Am I the only one who thinks that Nunez sucks? Everyone else (not just on Fark but out in real life!) seems to love the guy but I just don't see it.


I didn't say he was -good-, I said he was developing well, and only offensively. Unless he's improved his defense this offseason, you can still pencil him in for about 3 errors a week.
 
2013-02-25 02:11:10 PM

enik: Tophersky: Wow! I didn't even know baseball was still played.

Yeah! While you were tweeting with your sausage pirate friends about actresses' gowns, there was some real men stuff going on!


www.guineapigcages.com
 
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