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(ArtsJournal)   TSA wrecks concert cellist's instrument and bow by slamming the case lid down in order to close it. TSA employee's excuse: "I thought there's always room for cello"   (artsjournal.com) divider line 199
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2013-02-24 09:26:25 PM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: Not really considering how ridiculously insane musicians are and the salary that people at his level make.


Unless you've released a Grammy-award-winning classical album with your name across the top of it, your income as a professional orchestral musician is about dick-fifty per year.  Dick-seventy-five, if you're union and have seniority.
 
2013-02-24 09:26:45 PM  

Oak: ajgeek: Ban the TSA. There's no reason for them and there never was.

There's a reason for them: Democrats.


The TSA was created as part of the Aviation and Transportation Security Act, sponsored by Don Young (Republican) in the United States House of Representatives[2] and Ernest Hollings (Democrat) in the Senate,[3] passed by the 107th U.S. Congress (just barely Democrat-controlled), and signed into law by President George W. Bush (Republican) on November 19, 2001.

But, you know, don't let that get in the way of the hurrs and the durrs.
 
2013-02-24 09:27:06 PM  
The politicians could easily end this TSA bullshiat tomorrow by decree,
But they are gutless poer and money-grubbers with spines of jello. All of them.
Any thinking person should have zero respect for the overpaid suited ones.
 
2013-02-24 09:28:30 PM  
I took the risk of damaging my cello by checking it with ordinary bags.
 
2013-02-24 09:29:27 PM  

ultraholland: Thanks, Obama.


Lol wut?
 iamkoream.com
 
kab
2013-02-24 09:30:20 PM  
The only story that surprises me about the TSA is that we, as a nation, consider them acceptable.
 
2013-02-24 09:30:22 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: Any thinking person should have zero respect for the overpaid suited ones.


t2.gstatic.com

Posture of authority!

Harrumph!
 
2013-02-24 09:30:44 PM  
bunner: - 284658726189358917329572945768264856286457862874

damn, that's lower than limbo stick
 
2013-02-24 09:30:51 PM  

GORDON: You don't have to worry about the TSA if you don't have an orifice or property to be searched.  Having an orifice on your person or you have private property is implicit permission to be searched by the government.

America, love it or leave it.

Obama 2016.


You were doing so well, but then you stumbled on the dismount.

-5 from the Russian judge
 
2013-02-24 09:32:21 PM  

kab: The only story that surprises me about the TSA is that we, as a nation, consider them acceptable.


Say what? We, as a nation, don't. The problem is that any politician who tries to get rid of them will be called a terrorist, and a destroyer of American Jobs.
 
Oak
2013-02-24 09:32:22 PM  

gweilo8888: Oak: ajgeek: Ban the TSA. There's no reason for them and there never was.

There's a reason for them: Democrats.

The TSA was created as part of the Aviation and Transportation Security Act, sponsored by Don Young (Republican) in the United States House of Representatives[2] and Ernest Hollings (Democrat) in the Senate,[3] passed by the 107th U.S. Congress (just barely Democrat-controlled), and signed into law by President George W. Bush (Republican) on November 19, 2001.

But, you know, don't let that get in the way of the hurrs and the durrs.


Oh, the law was passed by the Democrat-controlled Congress, but because it was  barely Democrat-controlled, they don't have to own their mistake.  I get it.

Dimwit.
 
2013-02-24 09:34:56 PM  

gweilo8888: Oak: ajgeek: Ban the TSA. There's no reason for them and there never was.

There's a reason for them: Democrats.

The TSA was created as part of the Aviation and Transportation Security Act, sponsored by Don Young (Republican) in the United States House of Representatives[2] and Ernest Hollings (Democrat) in the Senate,[3] passed by the 107th U.S. Congress (just barely Democrat-controlled), and signed into law by President George W. Bush (Republican) on November 19, 2001.

But, you know, don't let that get in the way of the hurrs and the durrs.


Too bad derpers can't stop long enough to realize that on this issue there is a large contingent of natural allies on the other side of the metaphorical aisle. God forbid anything be done about the obscene clusterfark of the TSA other than arguing about whose fault it is.
 
2013-02-24 09:35:57 PM  

LDM90: Duke_leto_Atredes: I try to make a point of giving the TSA as hard a time as possible, i always opt out and make them pat me down

//on the fat side of heavy
//always eat beans before air travel
//make slightly sugestive comments as i get patted down.

I once saw a man do the same but he was wearing a kilt at JWA i wish i had come up with that.

Do you know you spell your name wrong? Caladan too. But you spelled Harkonnen right.

Just wonderd


just to see who notices and comments

//Have read all the books including the ghost written ones with the sons name on them. they were pretty bad.

re reading richard III at the moment.
 
2013-02-24 09:36:04 PM  
I was sympathetic until I saw that he was not using a flight case or a flight cover for his regular case. Then I reconsidered after realizing that using one would have been immaterial in regards to whether his bow, bridge, and soundpost got damaged as they did. The baggage inspector wouldn't have magically turned into less of an ignorant goon if the cello had been in a flight case.
 
2013-02-24 09:38:24 PM  
Too bad derpers can't stop long enough to realize that on this issue there is a large contingent of natural allies on the other side of the metaphorical aisle. God forbid anything be done about the obscene clusterfark of the TSA other than arguing about whose fault it is.
royalboiler.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-24 09:38:44 PM  

MorePeasPlease: SockMonkeyHolocaust: What kind of dildo doesn't have a backup bow?

GizmoToy: Well, when they're $20k each, you probably don't have a horde of them laying around.

[wow.zamimg.com image 435x152]


Ooops!
 
2013-02-24 09:40:44 PM  
Honestly, I've never met a gov't employee that didn't deserve a punch in the face. I've seriously never had any encounter with such an employee that gave me any impression that they were actual human beings with empathy or courtesy. Trusting something valuable to one of them, whether it's the TSA or whoever, is like gambling in Vegas except the only reward is that they actually manage to not fark up in the process.
 
2013-02-24 09:41:11 PM  
all TSA agents are muslim terrorists that need to be strip searched and deported to gitmo.
 
2013-02-24 09:41:28 PM  

ultraholland: bunner: - 284658726189358917329572945768264856286457862874

damn, that's lower than limbo stick


I didn't hire your writers.
 
2013-02-24 09:42:06 PM  

utah dude: all TSA agents are muslim terrorists that need to be strip searched and deported to gitmo.


I'd really get behind that if we could shoot them first.
Fascists.
 
2013-02-24 09:42:21 PM  

Oak: gweilo8888: Oak: ajgeek: Ban the TSA. There's no reason for them and there never was.

There's a reason for them: Democrats.

The TSA was created as part of the Aviation and Transportation Security Act, sponsored by Don Young (Republican) in the United States House of Representatives[2] and Ernest Hollings (Democrat) in the Senate,[3] passed by the 107th U.S. Congress (just barely Democrat-controlled), and signed into law by President George W. Bush (Republican) on November 19, 2001.

But, you know, don't let that get in the way of the hurrs and the durrs.

Oh, the law was passed by the Democrat-controlled Congress, but because it was  barely Democrat-controlled, they don't have to own their mistake.  I get it.

Dimwit.


It also survived 2003-2006 where the House, Senate, and Presidency were solidly Republican; 2007-2008 (D legislature R prez); 2009-2010 (all D); and 2011-present (D prez and Senate, R House). Any of those Congresses and Presidents could have pushed through repeal or major reform of the TSA; they have not.

Sorry, but this is one of the issues on which both sides are pretty much equally bad.
 
2013-02-24 09:43:05 PM  

kab: The only story that surprises me about the TSA is that we, as a nation, consider them acceptable.


Givem the TSA's tendency to raid the homes of anyone who criticizes them, is it surprising that nobody speaks out?
 
2013-02-24 09:43:50 PM  
It's a sickening story, and becoming more common every day. There should be some category of luggage check-in that would accommodate musical instruments so they aren't destroyed. Buying a ticket for your instrument just to ensure that isn't thrown, bounced, kicked, crushed, opened, snapped, twisted and ruined is the only way right now, and that's unacceptable.
 
2013-02-24 09:44:26 PM  
www.worldofstock.com

Do they even allow a carry on this large.  Makes one go hmmmmmm....
 
2013-02-24 09:45:09 PM  
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2013-02-24 09:45:46 PM  

lolpix: Those Bush Democrats were the worst!


The Bush Democrats we have now, headed up by Barack Obama, most certainly are the worst. Bush's 4th term, indeed. Thanks dumbass liberals who voted for him twice.
 
2013-02-24 09:46:53 PM  

Oak: gweilo8888: Oak: ajgeek: Ban the TSA. There's no reason for them and there never was.

There's a reason for them: Democrats.

The TSA was created as part of the Aviation and Transportation Security Act, sponsored by Don Young (Republican) in the United States House of Representatives[2] and Ernest Hollings (Democrat) in the Senate,[3] passed by the 107th U.S. Congress (just barely Democrat-controlled), and signed into law by President George W. Bush (Republican) on November 19, 2001.

But, you know, don't let that get in the way of the hurrs and the durrs.

Oh, the law was passed by the Democrat-controlled Congress, but because it was  barely Democrat-controlled, they don't have to own their mistake.  I get it.

Dimwit.


The law was passed almost unanimously by both parties and signed by the President. Both parties made a mistake, both parties sponsored it and supported it, neither could've passed it alone. Both parties, upon opportunity for sober reflection and with the evidence of the real-world effect of their well-meaning (if cowardly) mistake, should fix it. But desperately scrounging up a tiny wisp of partisan blame is a more valuable pursuit, so carry on.
 
2013-02-24 09:47:08 PM  

vudukungfu: I'd really get behind that if we could shoot them first.
Fascists.


as per the protocol of the geneva kyoto convention, only if you use a drone with an glock ar-47 on it.
 
2013-02-24 09:47:45 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Because so many terrorists have hidden bombs inside valuable musical instruments.


fnordfocus: kab: The only story that surprises me about the TSA is that we, as a nation, consider them acceptable.

Givem the TSA's tendency to raid the homes of anyone who criticizes them, is it surprising that nobody speaks out?


*citation or shut-up please*
 
2013-02-24 09:50:52 PM  
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2013-02-24 09:51:58 PM  
my goodness a 30 pound nitrocellulose covered device on an airplane. it's amazing how fretless the stewardess was about it all.
 
2013-02-24 09:55:10 PM  
I know the TSA inspectors are the poors so we should have zero tolerances for mistakes that are made.  You know millions of people going though every day without incident but one problem and we have to condemn them all.
 
2013-02-24 09:57:39 PM  

mrlewish: I know the TSA inspectors are the poors so we should have zero tolerances for mistakes that are made.  You know millions of people going though every day without incident but one problem and we have to condemn them all.


Millions...without incident?  Do you ever fly?
 
2013-02-24 09:58:53 PM  

clowncar on fire: *citation or shut-up please*


Off the top of my head, bloggers Chris Elliot and Steve Frischling, and an anonymous Sacramento-area pilot.  Their crimes were basically pointing that TSA security procedures made no damn sense.
 
2013-02-24 10:00:15 PM  
I can't wait for the youtube song that's written to protest this one.
 
2013-02-24 10:10:33 PM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: During the 30 seconds of orchestra tutti I put my bow down, signaled the conductor to keep on going, walked over to the assistant principal cellist and silently asked for her bow. I will never forget the expression in her face - she must have thought I had gone mad! I finished the concerto on her bow wondering what I had done to deserve such challenges. Oh, I have never had emotional attachment to things, and as a father I know the only really tragic loss, the loss of your child, but to make music I do depend on good equipment.

What kind of dildo doesn't have a backup bow?


Well, it would happen with *my* dildo or *your* dildo, but maybe for *a* dildo.
 
2013-02-24 10:10:59 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Because so many terrorists have hidden bombs inside valuable musical instruments.


It only takes once. We'll never know how many times such a situation has been prevented thanks to the good work the TSA is doing.
 
2013-02-24 10:11:08 PM  
would > wouldn't


/that comment was dildoes
 
2013-02-24 10:15:31 PM  

fnordfocus: Chris Elliot and Steve Frischling


The two bloggers that revealed TSA protocol and then refused to divulge their source?  Yeah, probably questions needed asking but this was not about criticism so much as revealing insider information.  Looks like a computer that was turned over voluntarily got broken, and a couple of hours lost in questioning.  Subpoena withdrawn two days after it was issued.

Two bloggers with insider information does not constitute "anyone who criticizes the TSA".
 
2013-02-24 10:16:12 PM  

FunkOut: DemonEater: FunkOut: If I was a musician, I'd be terrified to take an expensive instrument on a plane.

That's the thing - many professional musicians buy a seat for their instrument and carry it on.  The cabin is better for the instrument (better climate control) and you don't entrust a $30,000 instrument to some guy making $10/hr who doesn't give a shiat.

If this guy was still checking his instrument - yeah, in an ideal world, you SHOULD be able to trust the airline, but this isn't an an ideal world - then he wasn't being as safe as he could.

I read the comments under the article and apparently sometimes musicians who buy their instrument a seat have it bumped into cargo anyway against their will. What an industry, you pay them good money for something and they still do whatever they want.


Also, the musician himself commented and said that in 23 years of checking his cello, it was never damaged, and the two times it had previously been damaged were times he had brought it on board.
  The only thing I would put blame on the musician for here is not having his entire instrument checked out as soon as he got home, especially after he noticed the bow had been broken.   Then the other damage might have been discovered with a bit more time to spare before his next concert.
 
2013-02-24 10:18:31 PM  

LesterB: GORDON: You don't have to worry about the TSA if you don't have an orifice or property to be searched.  Having an orifice on your person or you have private property is implicit permission to be searched by the government.

America, love it or leave it.

Obama 2016.

You were doing so well, but then you stumbled on the dismount.

-5 from the Russian judge


Been seeing so much government boot-licking lately from the "freedom loving" left that blaming Obama for a department under his control is just sort of a knee-jerk reaction to these sort of things.

I don't care that Bush signed it into law from a democrat-controlled congress... Obama is in charge NOW, and this shiat is currently his responsibility.
 
2013-02-24 10:19:55 PM  

clowncar on fire: fnordfocus: Chris Elliot and Steve Frischling

The two bloggers that revealed TSA protocol and then refused to divulge their source?  Yeah, probably questions needed asking but this was not about criticism so much as revealing insider information.  Looks like a computer that was turned over voluntarily got broken, and a couple of hours lost in questioning.  Subpoena withdrawn two days after it was issued.

Two bloggers with insider information does not constitute "anyone who criticizes the TSA".


that's the beauty of a police state.  There's always a law you can go to prison for.  In this case, the bloggers weren't behind the leak, and the information wasn't sensitive and should have been public anyone, except the TSA claims to be above to FOIA.

and a pilot who do complained that flight crews get felt up while ground fees get a free pass?

Also, an alleged 8000 other raids annually.
 
2013-02-24 10:20:40 PM  
Here is what these people need to do. Buy a pelican type case for said fragile instrument and check it.  Problem solved.

I have a $7,000 microscope and I have a quality case for travel.
 
2013-02-24 10:20:45 PM  
What had happened? Why did I only realize this two and a half weeks after the incident? And how dare I complain when I took the risk of damaging my cello by checking it with ordinary bags? Some people seem to believe I deserve such an accident.

Nice to see him pre-empting the usual snarky Farker arguments that he should have bought the cello its own seat. You'll also note it was damaged by the TSA, not the baggage handlers. They opened the case to check it, which would have happened regardless of whether he checked it or carried it on. As for not traveling with such an expensive instrument, well, that's how he makes his living, and when people pay to see him play, they pay to see him at his best. Imagine the guys who raced today at Daytona showing up with crappy rental cars saying, "Well, our real race cars are too valuable to risk in a transporter out on the highway with all the accidents and inattentive drivers."

Making excuses for the morons who broke his six-figure instrument, which he uses to make his living, and implying that it's somehow HIS fault? WTF?
 
2013-02-24 10:20:54 PM  
+1 subby.
 
2013-02-24 10:22:11 PM  

GizmoToy: What kind of dildo doesn't have a backup bow?

Well, when they're $20k each, you probably don't have a horde of them laying around.


Was that k thrown in there by accident, or do those things really cost more than twenty dollars?  It's a stick with strings on it.  Or do they take a year to put together, and each one must be made from a tree grown especially for the purpose and blessed by virgins?
 
2013-02-24 10:22:29 PM  
Hang the TSA agent, his boss and every other employee of the TSA right down to the janitors.  It's like nuking the site from orbit.  You have to make sure.
 
2013-02-24 10:23:41 PM  

Sgygus: You hire goons ... you have to expect them to behave like goons.


Hired goons?

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2013-02-24 10:26:54 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Hang the TSA agent, his boss and every other employee of the TSA right down to the janitors.  It's like nuking the site from orbit.  You have to make sure.


not going to happen. I would like to remind you some tsa people, like myself, are honest hard working people who go to work, dont break laws, and try to show courtesy and respect to every person I come in contact with.
 
2013-02-24 10:30:15 PM  

BronyMedic: Duke_leto_Atredes: I try to make a point of giving the TSA as hard a time as possible, i always opt out and make them pat me down

That sounds more like a fetish, and less like giving them a hard time. >_>


Well, it sounds like SOMEBODY is getting a hard time out of it, anyway.
 
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