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(BBC)   Mozilla introduces Firefox OS for smartphones. Version 11.3.7.1.1.0 expected by Tuesday   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 15
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2013-02-24 09:08:56 PM
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Weird, my current version of Firefox uses less than half the memory that the one I had three years ago. And it doesn't bloat at all, I can leave it running for weeks and it doesn't get any larger.

But I am running it on Linux.
2013-02-24 07:28:14 PM
2 votes:

lordargent: And for the record, I'm firmly in the Firefox camp.

Every time I try chrome, it can't handle the abuse I throw at it, it fails my acid test (opening hundreds of tabs at once). Firefox (once tweaked to hell and back) handles things fine.

[lordargent.com image 466x137]

The way my system is set up, Firefox is more stable, I did spend a lot of time tweaking Firefox though.

Chrome IS faster than Firefox when you only open a few tabs, but I use TONS of tabs and I end up seeing this far too often

[lordargent.com image 748x565]

// the last full acid test I did was back in 2010, so when I have a chance I need to do an updated one (maybe when I get back this evening). 201 tabs in chrome vs 201 tabs in firefox.
http://lordargent.com/temp/tech/chrome_firefox_201_tabs.png
// I don't care for the chrome UI so even if the browsers were equivalent performance wise, I would still be in the Firefox camp. Chrome would have to be several steps above to make up for the discordant UI.


Is their any good reason to having 200 tabs open at once except to say "I have a browser set up that can open 200 tabs at once"?

/The answer is no
2013-02-24 07:16:56 PM
2 votes:
And for the record, I'm firmly in the Firefox camp.

Every time I try chrome, it can't handle the abuse I throw at it, it fails my acid test (opening hundreds of tabs at once). Firefox (once tweaked to hell and back) handles things fine.

lordargent.com

The way my system is set up, Firefox is more stable, I did spend a lot of time tweaking Firefox though.

Chrome IS faster than Firefox when you only open a few tabs, but I use TONS of tabs and I end up seeing this far too often

lordargent.com

// the last full acid test I did was back in 2010, so when I have a chance I need to do an updated one (maybe when I get back this evening). 201 tabs in chrome vs 201 tabs in firefox.
http://lordargent.com/temp/tech/chrome_firefox_201_tabs.png
// I don't care for the chrome UI so even if the browsers were equivalent performance wise, I would still be in the Firefox camp. Chrome would have to be several steps above to make up for the discordant UI.
2013-02-24 07:07:32 PM
2 votes:
GoldSpider: cmunic8r99: Popcorn Johnny: Maybe they should stay focused on making a good mobile browser first.

I'd be happy if they (still) made a decent desktop browser.

On that note, any recommendations?  Firefox is a memory hog, IE is still practically malware itself, Chrome most assuredly tracks data...


Pick your poison. I don't know enough about others (Opera, Safari, etc.) to give an informed opinion.
2013-02-24 05:28:31 PM
2 votes:
Maybe they should stay focused on making a good mobile browser first.
2013-02-25 09:00:59 PM
1 votes:
Rwa2play:

Oh and IE 10's bad if you don't want the full screen treatment on your desktop.

Or, you could not be a farktard launch IE 10 from the desktop, where it operates the way it always has. Want links from apps to open in the desktop version? Set it as default.
2013-02-24 09:40:06 PM
1 votes:

1000Monkeys: Yeah, but why Firefox? They don't seem to care about Chrome and it's already at 25 despite being half the age of Firefox.


It's not the number, it's the frequency of updates. It's annoying to have to wait very often when opening the browser for it to update itself. And quite often even a small point update will break a random assortment of add ons. They're doing exactly what Netscape did that caused them to lose the browser was to IE. I don't know if they're bad at testing or just have a culture of frequent releases but it makes for an annoying experience.

Chrome lately hasn't been all roses either. For some reason in Chrome, and only Chrome, links on certain website won't open. If I right click to open in a new tab or window, it works fine but simply clicking a link to load that page in the current Chrome window does nothing. Very annoying.
2013-02-24 08:42:48 PM
1 votes:
Firefox from a Web Developer PoV:

Pros:
• Built-in web developer tools are excellent. The 3D view is actually quite useful for visualizing CSS and selecting just the CSS element you want in the Inspector. Nobody else has that that I know of.
• Gecko engine has nearly all of CSS3 and HTML5 implemented well, and has lots of cool features of its own.
• You can now tell it to, when re-opening a saved session, not to actually download a tab's content until you click on it. This greatly helps alleviate the memory issues.
• You can also, in the latest versions, tell it not to activate plug-ins on pages without your say-so. No more buggy memory-hogging Flash ads running without your permission (of course, NoScript does this and more).

Cons:
• Still, even approaching version 20, this is the only modern browser that cannot allow multiple windows or tabs opened onto the same site at the same time, each with a different cookie space (e.g. allowing you to be both logged in and not logged in [in two different windows or tabs] at the same time, or logged in as Admin and as a lesser-privileged user to verify that permissions are working as they should, etc.). Even WinIE 8 can do this! So can Opera, let alone Chrome or Safari. But Firefox? Nope. If you try to enter Private Browsing mode, it still requires you to close all your existing windows and tabs, promising to re-open them when you exit, so you can't have multiple cookie spaces open simultaneously. Even the Cookie Switcher third-party add-on (extension) only allows switching between cookie sets, not having multiple sets active simultaneously.
2013-02-24 08:16:41 PM
1 votes:
Does the phone need to be rebooted hourly because of memory leaks?

lordargent: And for the record, I'm firmly in the Firefox camp.

Every time I try chrome, it can't handle the abuse I throw at it, it fails my acid test (opening hundreds of tabs at once). Firefox (once tweaked to hell and back) handles things fine.

[lordargent.com image 466x137]

The way my system is set up, Firefox is more stable, I did spend a lot of time tweaking Firefox though.

Chrome IS faster than Firefox when you only open a few tabs, but I use TONS of tabs and I end up seeing this far too often

[lordargent.com image 748x565]

// the last full acid test I did was back in 2010, so when I have a chance I need to do an updated one (maybe when I get back this evening). 201 tabs in chrome vs 201 tabs in firefox.
http://lordargent.com/temp/tech/chrome_firefox_201_tabs.png
// I don't care for the chrome UI so even if the browsers were equivalent performance wise, I would still be in the Firefox camp. Chrome would have to be several steps above to make up for the discordant UI.


I haven't gone back to Firefox since switching to Chrome, but none of the browsers are perfect. I often have a lot of tabs open, too, and yes, I was getting those "oops" screens, more for a short while than lately, but I still get them.

My biggest problem was that Firefox was making my entire system unstable for some reason... a neat trick, for sure, when no other apps I ran had done anything like that before. At least with Chrome, the only issue I have is when it gobbles up too much physical memory.
2013-02-24 07:09:09 PM
1 votes:
¯\(ツ)/¯
2013-02-24 07:08:01 PM
1 votes:
I know you're trying to be funny subby, but I don't think they even bother with dot notation anymore.

So it will be Version 1137110
2013-02-24 07:02:31 PM
1 votes:

cmunic8r99: Popcorn Johnny: Maybe they should stay focused on making a good mobile browser first.

I'd be happy if they (still) made a decent desktop browser.


On that note, any recommendations?  Firefox is a memory hog, IE is still practically malware itself, Chrome most assuredly tracks data...
2013-02-24 07:02:23 PM
1 votes:

davidphogan: cmunic8r99: Popcorn Johnny: Maybe they should stay focused on making a good mobile browser first.

I'd be happy if they (still) made a decent desktop browser.

If you'd asked me a few years ago I doubt I would have foreseen that I'd have switched to Chrome for pretty much everything by now.  I love the integration from my laptop to my phone, and it doesn't crash on me a few times a week like FireFox.


I switched to Chrome a couple of months ago and love it so far. I have had one problem, though. After launching, it's fine until the first time I open a page with Flash on it. Then it locks up for about a minute. After that it's fine. Not sure how to get it to stop doing that.
2013-02-24 06:28:36 PM
1 votes:

cmunic8r99: Popcorn Johnny: Maybe they should stay focused on making a good mobile browser first.

I'd be happy if they (still) made a decent desktop browser.


If you'd asked me a few years ago I doubt I would have foreseen that I'd have switched to Chrome for pretty much everything by now.  I love the integration from my laptop to my phone, and it doesn't crash on me a few times a week like FireFox.
2013-02-24 05:43:37 PM
1 votes:
fark FireFox

Firefox once was a good browser. Now I dont even recommend it for those technologically illiterate folk.
 
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