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(IMDB)   While we're waiting for the best of the best to be honored at the Oscars, how about we look at the worst of the worst: The Ghastly Love of Johnny X has grossed a grand total of $86, with a budget of $2 Million   (imdb.com) divider line 60
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2013-02-24 11:27:58 AM
Reggie Bannister, Kevin McCarthy and Paul Williams? I'm in.
 
2013-02-24 11:37:06 AM
Have a go at the trailer on the link... I'm in too!!
 
2013-02-24 11:39:28 AM
It's too bad we're all going to find a way to watch this for free now.  But hey, if it's as cool as it looks, I'll do free marketing.
 
2013-02-24 11:45:08 AM

thamike: It's too bad we're all going to find a way to watch this for free now.  But hey, if it's as cool as it looks, I'll do free marketing.


If it had found a distributor and gotten a wider release, I'd have seen it.
 
2013-02-24 12:09:48 PM

Bathia_Mapes: Reggie Bannister, Kevin McCarthy and Paul Williams? I'm in.


Don't forget Creed!  It has Creed in it!
 
2013-02-24 01:07:05 PM
Yeah, but it will make that up in foreign markets and DVD sales.
 
2013-02-24 01:13:20 PM
And here I assumed the title was just missing the word billion... I guess not.
 
2013-02-24 01:13:26 PM
That looks strange enough to work
 
2013-02-24 01:13:58 PM
Er... Million. Not billion.

Yes, this is dog.
 
2013-02-24 01:27:51 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

Made a total of $30 (US box office)
 
2013-02-24 01:40:06 PM
That looks great.
 
2013-02-24 01:43:12 PM

Gunderson: [upload.wikimedia.org image 215x281]

Made a total of $30 (US box office)


and yet The Ghastly Love of Johnny X and Zyzzyx Road still made more than the aptly named,The Worst Movie Ever!... one ticket sold, $11 total box office gross.
 
2013-02-24 01:53:59 PM

Gunderson: [upload.wikimedia.org image 215x281]

Made a total of $30 (US box office)


That actually looks terrible.
 
2013-02-24 02:13:59 PM

Gunderson: [upload.wikimedia.org image 215x281]

Made a total of $30 (US box office)


And it was absolutely deliberate. The SAG allows lower pay for actors in low-budget movies, as long as they get a domestic release in theaters, maybe on the assumption that actors would relish the opportunity to get in a part in a movie that'd go on the silver screen, and not just as a direct-to-DVD. The producers did not intend to distribute the movie domestically. So, what they did was they rented a theatre in Dallas for one week, and showed the movie there for one week, with absolutely no marketing. And then their legal obligations were fulfilled.

I'd not be surprised if that's what happened here.
 
2013-02-24 02:14:06 PM
Oh hai, bad film.

jeffkatz.typepad.com
 
2013-02-24 02:20:30 PM

Gunderson: [upload.wikimedia.org image 215x281]

Made a total of $30 (US box office)


www.musicnotes.com

made a total of $60 billion!
 
2013-02-24 02:25:33 PM

padraig: Gunderson: [upload.wikimedia.org image 215x281]

Made a total of $30 (US box office)

And it was absolutely deliberate. The SAG allows lower pay for actors in low-budget movies, as long as they get a domestic release in theaters, maybe on the assumption that actors would relish the opportunity to get in a part in a movie that'd go on the silver screen, and not just as a direct-to-DVD. The producers did not intend to distribute the movie domestically. So, what they did was they rented a theatre in Dallas for one week, and showed the movie there for one week, with absolutely no marketing. And then their legal obligations were fulfilled.

I'd not be surprised if that's what happened here.


I wonder who the people who saw Zyzzyx Road were. Were they just random people who went to a theater saw it on the listings board and were like, "Hey let's give it shot"? Do people do that? Go to the movies and get tickets to movies they know absolutely nothing about? That would be some legit hipster cred to show up to a party in Austin and be like, "Check it. Ticket stub to the February 28th showing of Zyzzyx Road at the Highland. Oh you don't know Highland Park Village Theater? Hit it up next time you're in the Big D."
 
2013-02-24 02:28:00 PM

Foxxinnia: padraig: Gunderson: [upload.wikimedia.org image 215x281]

Made a total of $30 (US box office)

And it was absolutely deliberate. The SAG allows lower pay for actors in low-budget movies, as long as they get a domestic release in theaters, maybe on the assumption that actors would relish the opportunity to get in a part in a movie that'd go on the silver screen, and not just as a direct-to-DVD. The producers did not intend to distribute the movie domestically. So, what they did was they rented a theatre in Dallas for one week, and showed the movie there for one week, with absolutely no marketing. And then their legal obligations were fulfilled.

I'd not be surprised if that's what happened here.

I wonder who the people who saw Zyzzyx Road were. Were they just random people who went to a theater saw it on the listings board and were like, "Hey let's give it shot"? Do people do that? Go to the movies and get tickets to movies they know absolutely nothing about? That would be some legit hipster cred to show up to a party in Austin and be like, "Check it. Ticket stub to the February 28th showing of Zyzzyx Road at the Highland. Oh you don't know Highland Park Village Theater? Hit it up next time you're in the Big D."


Pot was probably involved.
 
2013-02-24 02:31:51 PM

Foxxinnia: I wonder who the people who saw Zyzzyx Road were. Were they just random people who went to a theater saw it on the listings board and were like, "Hey let's give it shot"? Do people do that? Go to the movies and get tickets to movies they know absolutely nothing about?


I did that with Se7en. I had just moved from overseas, so I hadn't seen any marketing, and I didn't even know who was in it.  I've done that quite a few times, though that was my happiest surprise.  Over marketing takes away from cool films.  Can you imagine how awesome From Dusk Til Dawn would have been if none of the vampire stuff had made it into the trailer?
 
2013-02-24 02:33:44 PM

padraig: Gunderson: [upload.wikimedia.org image 215x281]

Made a total of $30 (US box office)

And it was absolutely deliberate. The SAG allows lower pay for actors in low-budget movies, as long as they get a domestic release in theaters, maybe on the assumption that actors would relish the opportunity to get in a part in a movie that'd go on the silver screen, and not just as a direct-to-DVD. The producers did not intend to distribute the movie domestically. So, what they did was they rented a theatre in Dallas for one week, and showed the movie there for one week, with absolutely no marketing. And then their legal obligations were fulfilled.

I'd not be surprised if that's what happened here.


!!! Ahhhhh, I Get it.

/thinking of renting a theater for a showing of "Mekka Pulls It Off!"
//Which is me pulling off a smock, for 90 minutes.
 
2013-02-24 02:39:21 PM

Gunderson: [upload.wikimedia.org image 215x281]

Made a total of $30 (US box office)


Imagine my disappoint when I learned that was not the long awaited film adaption of Colossal Cave Adventure

/metaphysically speaking I was indeed in a maze of twisty little passages
 
2013-02-24 02:57:57 PM
It's no "Springtime for Hitler", that's for sure.
 
2013-02-24 03:05:24 PM

thamike: Foxxinnia: I wonder who the people who saw Zyzzyx Road were. Were they just random people who went to a theater saw it on the listings board and were like, "Hey let's give it shot"? Do people do that? Go to the movies and get tickets to movies they know absolutely nothing about?

I did that with Se7en. I had just moved from overseas, so I hadn't seen any marketing, and I didn't even know who was in it.  I've done that quite a few times, though that was my happiest surprise.  Over marketing takes away from cool films.  Can you imagine how awesome From Dusk Til Dawn would have been if none of the vampire stuff had made it into the trailer?


It's very, very confusing.  I saw that movie without knowing anything about it (my Dad rented it and I just sat down with popcorn), and it's a very surreal experience.  The first part of the movie is some lame mobster movie that I was barely paying attention to... and then vampires?  Fun movie, but dear lord to that mess with my head for a little bit.

/of course, I'm the chick that serves meat pie for friends when we watch 'Titus' and they've never seen it before
//it's fun to get glared at in those situations
 
2013-02-24 03:07:59 PM

thamike: Can you imagine how awesome From Dusk Til Dawn would have been if none of the vampire stuff had made it into the trailer?


I knew NOTHING about that film except that it was by Tarantino. I'm cruising along in the theaters when BAM! vampires and shotguns everywhere.  Totally surprised us, and we thought the movie was great because of that fact. For years afterward I kept telling people that it's a great movie if only you could know nothing about it beforehand. In fact, I'm still doing it now, I guess.
 
2013-02-24 03:18:53 PM

BunkyBrewman: Bathia_Mapes: Reggie Bannister, Kevin McCarthy and Paul Williams? I'm in.

Don't forget Creed!  It has Creed in it


 Sha la la la la la  live for today..but dont worry bout tomorrow.....Creed!!!!
 
2013-02-24 03:30:51 PM
A truly mad concoction, blending 1950s juvenile delinquents, sci-fi melodrama, song-and-dance, and a touch of horror, everything in just the right combination to create an engaging big screen spectacle! This curious and curiously entertaining story

haha, wow. That ad copy really sells it.
 
2013-02-24 03:31:35 PM
padraig SAG allows lower pay for actors in low-budget movies, as long as they get a domestic release in theaters, maybe on the assumption that actors would relish the opportunity to get in a part in a movie that'd go on the silver screen, and not just as a direct-to-DVD

Actually the preferred house for such "four-walling" was the Sunset Laemmle 5(right across from the Garden Of Allah's oldspot("paved paradise") from the ending of "Adaptation" & near TMZ's headquarters)  but they've closed, will re-open as "Sundance Cinemas" this spring  http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/laemmle_passes_sunset_ 5 _to_sundance_cinemas
 
2013-02-24 03:33:27 PM

SockMonkeyHolocaust: A truly mad concoction, blending 1950s juvenile delinquents, sci-fi melodrama, song-and-dance, and a touch of horror, everything in just the right combination to create an engaging big screen spectacle! This curious and curiously entertaining story

haha, wow. That ad copy really sells it.


This movie really makes me think it may have legs as a cult classic on DVD.  It could be the next Bubba Ho-Tep.  Hopefully this sees a DVD release soon, or at least a Netflix streaming option.
 
2013-02-24 03:36:40 PM

DeltaPunch: thamike: Can you imagine how awesome From Dusk Til Dawn would have been if none of the vampire stuff had made it into the trailer?

I knew NOTHING about that film except that it was by Tarantino. I'm cruising along in the theaters when BAM! vampires and shotguns everywhere.  Totally surprised us, and we thought the movie was great because of that fact. For years afterward I kept telling people that it's a great movie if only you could know nothing about it beforehand. In fact, I'm still doing it now, I guess.


You lucky bastard.  I was actively avoiding knowing anything about it, but right around the scene where Tarantino's duct taping his hand came on, I remembered catching the Selma Hayek turning into a monster scene out of the corner of my eye once.  Still enjoyed it though (many many times over again).

I just remembered another happy surprise--Fargo.  My friend and I just went in, not even knowing it was Coen Bros.  It was at a rural multiplex full of teenagers and old people who couldn't understand why we were laughing so hard.  Great film.
 
2013-02-24 03:37:03 PM
Has anyone here seen it?  How does it stack up to Plan 9 From Outer Space?
 
2013-02-24 03:41:00 PM

FlyingJ: Sunset Laemmle 5


Saw Magnolia there.  I still can't tell if I hate that film or not, but I never feel like watching it again to find out.
 
2013-02-24 03:46:31 PM
Random movie CSB's

1) My Grandparents used to live next to the Costner's in Compton when Kevin was a baby. They stayed in touch with them over the years, even as he became a success.

They would go to all of his movie's.....then leave 10-15 minutes in and demand their money back because of the language in them. They also went to see "There's Something About Mary" because they heard people talking about how good it was. I don't know if they made it past the opening credits.

2) Back in the '90's when Indie Films were the rage, our local theater advertised an Indie Film where the director would be available for a "Meet & Greet" afterwards. I went and shared a theater with about 20+ other people.

It was a terrible movie. I went for a bathroom break half-way through and I saw the director, sitting outside the theater at a card table with his hands in his head. He looked up at me and I nodded. The poor guy looked broken.

I should have left, but I went back. And when the credits finally rolled, I waited for everyone else to go so I could sneak out. I waited and waited, but nobody left. Then the screen went blank and the lights came on. Still, no one left.

Finally, I stood up and power-walked out, with everyone following suit. As I burst through the door, the director shot up to his feet. I smiled, nodded and walked past, while others stopped to congratulate him.

I felt for the guy, but it was a bad film. I did my part by purchasing a ticket.
 
Boe
2013-02-24 03:48:38 PM

NeoCortex42: SockMonkeyHolocaust: A truly mad concoction, blending 1950s juvenile delinquents, sci-fi melodrama, song-and-dance, and a touch of horror, everything in just the right combination to create an engaging big screen spectacle! This curious and curiously entertaining story

haha, wow. That ad copy really sells it.

This movie really makes me think it may have legs as a cult classic on DVD.  It could be the next Bubba Ho-Tep.  Hopefully this sees a DVD release soon, or at least a Netflix streaming option.


oh wow, Bubba Ho-Tep is criminally underrated, imo.

Johnny X looks dodgy

/in other news, Paul Williams is still alive
 
2013-02-24 03:55:00 PM

marcre3363: 2) Back in the '90's when Indie Films were the rage, our local theater advertised an Indie Film where the director would be available for a "Meet & Greet" afterwards. I went and shared a theater with about 20+ other people.

It was a terrible movie. I went for a bathroom break half-way through and I saw the director, sitting outside the theater at a card table with his hands in his head. He looked up at me and I nodded. The poor guy looked broken.

I should have left, but I went back. And when the credits finally rolled, I waited for everyone else to go so I could sneak out. I waited and waited, but nobody left. Then the screen went blank and the lights came on. Still, no one left.

Finally, I stood up and power-walked out, with everyone following suit. As I burst through the door, the director shot up to his feet. I smiled, nodded and walked past, while others stopped to congratulate him.

I felt for the guy, but it was a bad film. I did my part by purchasing a ticket.


I wanna guess--Burn Hollywood Burn?
 
2013-02-24 04:10:42 PM

thamike: Foxxinnia: I wonder who the people who saw Zyzzyx Road were. Were they just random people who went to a theater saw it on the listings board and were like, "Hey let's give it shot"? Do people do that? Go to the movies and get tickets to movies they know absolutely nothing about?

I did that with Se7en. I had just moved from overseas, so I hadn't seen any marketing, and I didn't even know who was in it.  I've done that quite a few times, though that was my happiest surprise.  Over marketing takes away from cool films.  Can you imagine how awesome From Dusk Til Dawn would have been if none of the vampire stuff had made it into the trailer?


That's exactly how i saw from dusk to dawn. Didn't even see the movie poster. Went on a date, knowing it was another tarantino bad crook movie. Things were pretty shocking at the reveal
 
2013-02-24 04:10:44 PM

ds_4815: Oh hai, bad film.


ds_4815 YOU'RE TEARING ME APART!
 
2013-02-24 04:33:05 PM

marcre3363: Random movie CSB's

... I saw the director, sitting outside the theater at a card table with his hands in his head.


The movie was so bad he tried to remove his own brain?
 
2013-02-24 04:35:19 PM

redsquid: marcre3363: Random movie CSB's

... I saw the director, sitting outside the theater at a card table with his hands in his head.

The movie was so bad he tried to remove his own brain?


Maybe it was this:
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-02-24 04:47:13 PM
Man, that story hits way too close to home.

<tl;dr>

Back in the early 2000s, a bunch of friends and I decided to make movies.  Not to make money, but because we were honestly curious about the technical challenge of making a movie with existing off-the-shelf technology.  So, we did.  We scripted, cast, shot, and made all of our movies on budgets so small that we essentially made our projects with coins we found in the couches.

(For the record, it was pretty damned hard.  Not the actual shooting, or even editing, but anything to do with sound suuuuuuucked.  Pro-tip:  Radio Shack omni miss plugged into a cam order with automatic gain control?  You're gonna record pretty much everything but your actors.  But I digress.)

One thing led to another and -- after three shorts, and a season making a local horror show for an actual TV station  -- and we decidede to try to make a feature.

Bad idea.

The "feature" (trust me, the quotation marks are absolutely necessary) broke us.  Not only was it the hardest to make, the most expensive (we actually had a five digit budget,) but for the first time we actually cared about maybe getting the movie into local theaters.  Not to make money, mind you, but to at least show off our hard work.  That meant finding a good theater and -- gasp! -- marketing our work.

The marketing costs associated with little indie movies-- even one as humble as ours -- was our first moment of real sticker-shock that we encountered.  Yes, that means AFTER we'd read about renting camera cranes, dollies, and even looking at prosumer 3CCD cameras and lighting kits.  Put simply, to make even a dent in our tiny demographic of Minneapolis meant spending the exact same amount on marketing as making the movie.

For us, the decision was pretty easy:  Since the movie wasn't meant to make money, we decided to cut our losses, do one big premiere at a local theater, and make it freely available to the world.   We were hobbiests, after all.  No need to break the bank on a passtime.

Still, I will never forget the shock of getting the quotes for marketing the project.  It was heart-stopping.  I can only imagine that this director was looking at at least a cool milion just to market his piece.  With every cent either on the screen or in his cast and crew's pockets, I'm pretty sure that this poor guy is living in a constant state of panic.

</tl;dr>

This director would pretty much have to spend as much money on marketing his movie as he did making it to get any kind of market penetration.  If he won't, he can pretty much get used to the idea of giving the damned thing away for $.99 in the Home Depot bargain bin.
 
2013-02-24 04:56:41 PM
A $2 million flop, you say?

confusedmatthew.com
 
2013-02-24 05:16:02 PM

Foxxinnia: padraig: Gunderson: [upload.wikimedia.org image 215x281]

Made a total of $30 (US box office)

And it was absolutely deliberate. The SAG allows lower pay for actors in low-budget movies, as long as they get a domestic release in theaters, maybe on the assumption that actors would relish the opportunity to get in a part in a movie that'd go on the silver screen, and not just as a direct-to-DVD. The producers did not intend to distribute the movie domestically. So, what they did was they rented a theatre in Dallas for one week, and showed the movie there for one week, with absolutely no marketing. And then their legal obligations were fulfilled.

I'd not be surprised if that's what happened here.

I wonder who the people who saw Zyzzyx Road were. Were they just random people who went to a theater saw it on the listings board and were like, "Hey let's give it shot"? Do people do that? Go to the movies and get tickets to movies they know absolutely nothing about? That would be some legit hipster cred to show up to a party in Austin and be like, "Check it. Ticket stub to the February 28th showing of Zyzzyx Road at the Highland. Oh you don't know Highland Park Village Theater? Hit it up next time you're in the Big D."


My friends and I used to do that every Tuesday. We would meet up at the theater and buy tickets for whatever was showing next. Saw Shawshank Redemption that way. It was a fun little tradition.
 
2013-02-24 05:32:41 PM

padraig: Gunderson: [upload.wikimedia.org image 215x281]

Made a total of $30 (US box office)

And it was absolutely deliberate. The SAG allows lower pay for actors in low-budget movies, as long as they get a domestic release in theaters, maybe on the assumption that actors would relish the opportunity to get in a part in a movie that'd go on the silver screen, and not just as a direct-to-DVD. The producers did not intend to distribute the movie domestically. So, what they did was they rented a theatre in Dallas for one week, and showed the movie there for one week, with absolutely no marketing. And then their legal obligations were fulfilled.

I'd not be surprised if that's what happened here.


Same for this. Also allows them to say "Theatrically Released" on the dvd promotions if I remember correctly.
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-02-24 05:39:00 PM

ds_4815: A $2 million flop, you say?

[confusedmatthew.com image 460x300]




Yes!
static.guim.co.uk
 
2013-02-24 06:00:23 PM
Subby...are you actually Bill Geist?

/or a CBS Sunday Morning fan?
//I'll see you on the radio.
 
2013-02-24 06:19:03 PM

Captain Slow: Subby...are you actually Bill Geist?

/or a CBS Sunday Morning fan?
//I'll see you on the radio.


Subby here.  Submitted it about during the commercial break after the segment.
 
2013-02-24 07:44:54 PM
I saw Johnny X play at a film festival about a year ago. I thought it was great; my girlfriend, not so much. Take that to mean whatever you want. Whether it's for you or not, there's certainly nothing I know of that's quite like it. I got to chat with the director afterward, and it was clearly a labor of love from him - it took him almost a decade to finish the film. I don't know where the $86 number came from, but my sense is that it's beyond the point.

And how Subby can claim to want to "look at the worst of the worst" on Oscar night and not link to the farking Razzies is beyond the pale.

/ I know there's already a Razzies thread. Just go with me here.
 
2013-02-24 09:00:19 PM
There's been hundreds upon hundreds of movies that cost millions to make, but grossed $0 because they were shelved and never got a release at all.

If your movie brought in $86, you're doing better than they did.
 
2013-02-24 09:07:37 PM

Foxxinnia: padraig: Gunderson: [upload.wikimedia.org image 215x281]

Made a total of $30 (US box office)

And it was absolutely deliberate. The SAG allows lower pay for actors in low-budget movies, as long as they get a domestic release in theaters, maybe on the assumption that actors would relish the opportunity to get in a part in a movie that'd go on the silver screen, and not just as a direct-to-DVD. The producers did not intend to distribute the movie domestically. So, what they did was they rented a theatre in Dallas for one week, and showed the movie there for one week, with absolutely no marketing. And then their legal obligations were fulfilled.

I'd not be surprised if that's what happened here.

I wonder who the people who saw Zyzzyx Road were. Were they just random people who went to a theater saw it on the listings board and were like, "Hey let's give it shot"? Do people do that? Go to the movies and get tickets to movies they know absolutely nothing about? That would be some legit hipster cred to show up to a party in Austin and be like, "Check it. Ticket stub to the February 28th showing of Zyzzyx Road at the Highland. Oh you don't know Highland Park Village Theater? Hit it up next time you're in the Big D."


My mother-in-law used to do that when she was living by herself. Not much to do during the day, plus senior discounts added on to weekday afternoon prices make tickets cheap. She'd see plenty of movies knowing absolutely nothing about them when she went in.
 
2013-02-24 11:22:13 PM
list fails without Birdemic.

thehubnow.com
/why yes, it is on netflix. why do you ask?
 
2013-02-24 11:56:02 PM
I must see this movie.
 
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