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2013-02-24 11:03:42 AM
2 votes:
One of the best successes of the Endangered Species Act and the EPA.
2013-02-24 08:42:30 PM
1 votes:

Happy Hours: Lee Jackson Beauregard: Oh, I've heard of the controversies.  I've also heard of the controversies over global warming, vaccines causing autism, sensitivity to wifi signals, tobacco causing cancer, Morgellon's disease and evolution by natural selection.  Many a controversy exists only because a vested interest seeks to obscure the facts.

And yet most of the controversies you mention are well-known bullshiat and full of FUD just like Silent Spring.

Okay, I'll 'fess up. I never read the book. [stopped reading there]


1) That doesn't surprise me.  Silent Spring is like the Bible, The Wealth of Nations and Das Kapital in that a lot more people sound off on it than have read it.

2)  Maybe a twentieth of Silent Spring is about DDT.  And it doesn't call for an outright ban.  Which is what I noted in my first [begone, foul filter] post.  Which you also didn't read.
2013-02-24 03:35:38 PM
1 votes:

Happy Hours: Lee Jackson Beauregard: I have read Silent Spring.

And that's where you lost me.

It's not just that you read it - it's that you include it as a major point in your reply. It's a well meaning book, but it has been widely discredited as mostly bullshiat.


Citation needed.

One thing I'm sure of though is that dropping literally tons of DDT over wide expanses of crops is very different from spraying a little bit around the house.

I'm also sure of this.  So is the UN.  So was Rachel Carson.  So is the EPA -- California sprayed DDT against fleas with bubonic plague for a while, with the EPA's blessing.

Have there been any recent - as in even the last 20 years - studies showing that bedbugs are resistant to DDT? Has there even been a single one? If so, I'll absorb that knowledge and join the bandwagon that DDT is not effective against bed bugs. But if there hasn't been any such study maybe you should admit you don't know.

It's not just a question of whether DDT is effective against bed bugs.  DDT isn't good for humans.  It may not be acutely toxic, but it's an endocrine disruptor.  While exposure from indoor residual spraying is vastly preferable either to dousing acres with the stuff or to getting malaria, alternatives are available, such as permethrins, that are far less damaging to human health.   And bedbugs, while I certainly wouldn't want them, are a long way from malaria.
2013-02-24 02:04:23 PM
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orclover: From a buddy of mines ranch, bout twice the size of the other coyotes we hav pics of, alot greyer and a hellova lot heavier.  Im thinking a grey wolf went slumming.  What do ya think?


Looks like a coyote to me.  Wolves usually have a large variation in color from their bottom/belly up to their back, but not always.  Same goes with coloring on their face, especially around their eyes.  Snout is too long and narrow; wolves typically have a more broad snout where coyotes have a more triangular shaped snout.  Ears look too pointy as well; wolves have shorter, rounder ears than coyotes.

I'm not an expert, but I grew up with coyotes all over the place, and I've been lucky enough to see a few wolves in the wild.  It's obvious when you see one.

wolf:
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coyote:
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And if you hear a wolf howl it's also obviously different than a coyote.  It's kind of haunting.  Much longer, deeper, and I'd say way louder.  They often start low, change pitch up, then change back down.  It lasts like 8 seconds maybe.
2013-02-24 02:01:33 PM
1 votes:
Saw this bad boy last week on my way out from a Forest Service cabin trip.

drewblood.com

He was one of seven or eight balds milling around, probably due to a carcass somewhere close by. This photo was from about six feet away and was the only clear frame I got before he relocated to another fence post. The golden eagles we saw were even bigger; they're like pit bulls with wings.

Here's a not very good pic of three of them roosting on a fence line in the same location:

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2013-02-24 01:29:17 PM
1 votes:

Happy Hours: PC LOAD LETTER: Happy Hours: //also not really sure if bedbugs are actually resistant to DDT

Bedbugs have been DDT resistant since at least 1948:

http://www.panna.org/blog/DDT-for-bedbugs

That's not enough to convince me. I'm not convinced they're not resistant, but that study is apparently 60+ years old.

If you can breed a species to be resistant you can breed them to be non-resistant as well.

If I had bedbugs and DDT were available, I would try it.


1) The Stockholm Convention on Persistent Organic Pollutants is the UN treaty regarding DDT and other nasty chemicals, mostly organochlorines -- DDT and other pesticides (some of them -- aldrin, dieldrin, toxaphene -- far nastier than DDT), some other deliberately-produced nasties such as PCBs, and byproducts such as dioxin.

2) The Stockholm Convention specifically allows DDT against disease vectors.  That usually means Anopheles mosquitoes, of course, but India also sprays it against sandflies.  Perhaps DDT could be used against bedbugs, if they weren't resistant, except that bedbugs are not known to spread disease to humans.

3) I have read Silent Spring.  Quite a lot of the douse-the-world-in-DDT crowd clearly hasn't.  Silent Spring does not call for outright banning of DDT or anything else but for smarter use.  People were spraying DDT in big clouds over populated areas and dumping it on cotton and other crops.

4) DDT kills "good" insects as easily as "bad" ones.
2013-02-24 11:48:17 AM
1 votes:

MichiganFTL: I thought they were extinct?


You hang out with liberals.
2013-02-24 11:24:28 AM
1 votes:

JosephFinn: One of the best successes of the Endangered Species Act and the EPA.



This.

Same with any raptor, I think.

I was about 12 or 13 when I saw my first red-tailed hawk, and it was kind of a big deal. Now they're everywhere in SE Wisconsin.
2013-02-24 11:19:39 AM
1 votes:

snocone: mike_d85: Saw a bald eagle snatch a squirrel off my driveway once.

I almost shiat myself.

I feed my chipminks daytime and flying squirrels @ night.
Little buggers will search my pockets for peanuts when I am sitting on my front porch.
We also have a pair of Cooper's Hawks in the neighborhood.
The male took a chipper not a foot from my feet, swung by a tree to smack it, and whoosh he was gone.
I can always find the hawk, listen to the crows.


Yes, the Coops do the same thing here.

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2013-02-24 11:09:04 AM
1 votes:
Saw one sitting on a lightpost in the grocery store parking lot ladt month.

Another one flew next to me when I was riding my bike along the waterfront last summer.

And a couple of weeks ago one swooped down right over my head to get a roadkill squirrel when I was riding my bike -- scared the crap outta me at first for sure!

No shortage of eagles in Bellingham.
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-02-24 09:49:23 AM
1 votes:
I saw a pair of red-tailed hawks chasing one a few years ago. I bet the hawks approve of removal from the endangered species list. (And in turn hawks are mobbed by crows, and crows are mobbed by chickadees, and nobody mobs chickadees because they are so cute.)

Aren't they tiny? Swans are way scarier. Swans don't give a fark, they'll charge you in the middle of a picnic.

As non-native birds Mute Swans are not protected by federal law and you can toss them on the grill without violating the Migratory Bird Treaty Act.
2013-02-24 08:34:07 AM
1 votes:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/veganbutterfly/5808555957/

'Merca %#*# yeah!

Sadly that pic is more appropriate than I wish it were.
2013-02-24 05:43:17 AM
1 votes:
I saw a few bald eagles at a state park this winter.  They're very disappointing.  I wouldn't mind them going extinct so we could start telling the legend instead of having the piddly truth just hanging out in a tree for like 25 minutes while my farking lens is icing up and fingers are swelling and getting gross.  Stupid eagles.  Our national bird should be like, a half-cyborg bald eagle.  Give him a backstory.  Like, he and the Mexican flag's eagle went to the same eagle dojo, but then the evil drug dealing ninjas, maybe Persian falcons, they come with their drug money, and the Mexican flag's eagle needs the money for his little sister who has TB or something, so he shoots the wing off our eagle, and leaves him for dead, but America is there and we build him biatching airplane wings with like jets and missiles.  And that's how California became a state.
 
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