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2013-02-23 10:49:01 PM  
holy sheeeeeeet
 
2013-02-23 11:01:53 PM  
That's nuckin futs. Jeez.
 
2013-02-24 12:26:46 AM  
Worst case scenario: you take off.
 
2013-02-24 12:40:21 AM  
Yeah, at least there's not much decision making going on here. Brakes released and you're taking off, no matter what. Just hope you did the math right.

Landing would make departures seem like a walk in the park. The view on approach:
img89.imageshack.us
..is butt-clinchingly terrifying.

/least the runway appears to be smoother than Courchevel
 
2013-02-24 12:43:08 AM  
The little 228s got their asses kicked by that Twin Otter.

The vodka burner is still the best takeoff video.
 
2013-02-24 12:54:07 AM  
Four flights in four minutes from a tiny remote Nepalese village 10,000 feet up the side of a mountain?
 
2013-02-24 01:21:19 AM  
And of course, there's no radar. The airport gets a call from Kathmandu saying there's a plane on the way and that's it.

I guess if they want a longer runway in Lukla the Madeirans' solution won't work:
farm2.staticflickr.com
The runway is longer than it a piers...

But at least at Lukla they don't have to worry about traffic, as in Gibraltar:
www.hoax-slayer.com

Or highrise apartments, like they used to in Hong Kong:
howzit-hongkong.com
 
2013-02-24 01:45:57 AM  
I wonder if that's better or worse than living next to train tracks. I would guess worse
 
2013-02-24 01:48:42 AM  

Paris1127: The runway is longer than it a piers...


latimesblogs.latimes.com
 
2013-02-24 01:50:47 AM  
www.projections-movies.com
 
2013-02-24 01:50:58 AM  
 
2013-02-24 01:54:12 AM  

Charlie Freak: The little 228s got their asses kicked by that Twin Otter.

The vodka burner is still the best takeoff video.


When I was learning ATC we had a guy at the airport that made his living modding Twin Otters for Alaskan bush pilots.

Now, my airport was only at about 1700 ASL, but he was still doing 400 foot takeoffs on calm days. He'd also fly above FL200 on bottled oxygen. That Twin Otter was a hot rod amongst airplanes.

Okay, we had a real hot rod at the airport, used a liquid fuel rocket for propulsion. You start to think of the ten thousand foot runway as a little thing, then you watch the rocket fire in silence and the sound reaches you in the tower after a surprisingly long delay.
 
2013-02-24 01:57:08 AM  
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2013-02-24 02:00:06 AM  

Charlie Freak: The little 228s got their asses kicked by that Twin Otter.

The vodka burner is still the best takeoff video.


Holy crap! Holy effin' crap.
 
2013-02-24 02:01:16 AM  

dj_bigbird: That's nuckin futs. Jeez.


o.O  these were the exact words i was just thinking
 
Ehh
2013-02-24 02:01:49 AM  
I'm OK with not doing that.
 
2013-02-24 02:01:57 AM  

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You people are drunk. Extremely drunk.
 
2013-02-24 02:04:27 AM  
Sharing more love for the Twin Otter. I have 500+ skydives out Twin Otters; it's an amazing jump plane.
 
2013-02-24 02:08:41 AM  
Yep.. Lukla..That video doesn't do the strip justice..

One of the best videos of what it's like to land there:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqop17wUiDk
 
2013-02-24 02:11:39 AM  
STOLs. But still cool...that's what they're made for.
 
2013-02-24 02:18:37 AM  
Courcheval's sloped runway for the win!
 
2013-02-24 02:19:50 AM  

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You people are drunk. Extremely drunk.



Why can't we comment on featured partner links like other links..I think some of the headlines would be great to comment and discuss..25 cereals of our childhoods is a fun topic..Sunny Boy, Red River, Cream of Wheat..then we could go into how the Toys back then were WAY better than they are now!:-)

ok, back on topic:

I'd have a heart attack if I had to land in a plane at Lukla like in that video styckx posted.  It looks like you basically have to almost slam into the side of a mountain and hope to god the brakes work. not for me thanks, I'll walk down to the bottom.
 
2013-02-24 02:19:56 AM  
Also, St. Bart's runway at the bottom of a hill for second place.
 
2013-02-24 02:20:17 AM  

Charlie Freak: The little 228s got their asses kicked by that Twin Otter.

The vodka burner is still the best takeoff video.


That was awesome thanks
 
2013-02-24 02:22:27 AM  
Fark, I've seen bigger airports in Walmart parking lots!
 
2013-02-24 02:22:42 AM  
Also scary: the ditch between the parking area and the runway isn't very well covered.  That first plane looked like it was going to catch a tire on the edge.
 
2013-02-24 02:23:26 AM  
Here's something to make your jaw drop, that's a paved runway in a town with no roads leading to it.
 
2013-02-24 02:23:45 AM  

strutin: Acharne: Featured Partner: ($$$)  [i563.photobucket.com image 54x11]   One Mobile Service Ad Reimagined As a Fark Link    (Featured Partner)

You people are drunk. Extremely drunk.


Why can't we comment on featured partner links like other links..I think some of the headlines would be great to comment and discuss..25 cereals of our childhoods is a fun topic..Sunny Boy, Red River, Cream of Wheat..then we could go into how the Toys back then were WAY better than they are now!:-)

ok, back on topic:

I'd have a heart attack if I had to land in a plane at Lukla like in that video styckx posted.  It looks like you basically have to almost slam into the side of a mountain and hope to god the brakes work. not for me thanks, I'll walk down to the bottom.


Because we'd shiat all over the sponsor as we rightfully should.

Thankfully Adblock also works on featured sponsor links and I never see them so there is ZERO chance of me accidentally clicking them.
 
2013-02-24 02:23:52 AM  
That runway is downhill - its difficult to see in the photo, but it is fairly steep downhill.
 
2013-02-24 02:24:17 AM  
Looked like a Lego plane. Which direction do they land?
 
2013-02-24 02:26:12 AM  
The takeoff isn't as bad as it looks. On a shorter runway, you hold the plane down until the last minute. Sure, there isn't exactly room to abort, but that that's not really completely unusual for bigger planes or smaller airports or both (respectively speaking).

Besides, those little CASA C-212s have 10 to 1 wings and uncomfortable amounts of lift on takeoff. Really, if you don't hold them down, you just pogo down the runway. As for the runway, its 460m. Bare minimum for the Casa at full weight is 400m. Takeoff is within tolerances. That said, landing looks like serious brown-pants time.
 
2013-02-24 02:30:38 AM  

Charlie Freak: The little 228s got their asses kicked by that Twin Otter.

The vodka burner is still the best takeoff video.


"You'll have to go faster than that..."
"You can lift up any time you like..."
"That'd be good.."
"I'm almost out of film. I hope I have enough to film the crash..."

Lol. Thanks for that.
 
2013-02-24 02:31:53 AM  
Can you use electronics immediately after takeoff from there?
 
2013-02-24 02:40:07 AM  

Mock26: Als

o, St. Bart's Toncontín's runway at the bottom of a hill for second place.

FTFY
 
2013-02-24 02:52:48 AM  
pfffft.  the take offs are a cinch compared to the landings at that runway.
 
2013-02-24 02:53:13 AM  

costermonger: Yeah, at least there's not much decision making going on here. Brakes released and you're taking off, no matter what. Just hope you did the math right.

Landing would make departures seem like a walk in the park. The view on approach:
[img89.imageshack.us image 850x568]
..is butt-clinchingly terrifying.

/least the runway appears to be smoother than Courchevel


Was thinking the same thing. I lost braking on one side during a landing once. No drama, really, because I had several thousand feet of *flat* runway to use the remaining brake plus every bit of flap/elevator/rudder/aileron/crosswind drag I could muster to bring the plane to a halt.

If same thing happened on a short, heavily inclined runway with no "good" turn-off area and maybe a bit of ice to make things interesting? I'm not seeing it end well.
 
2013-02-24 02:54:15 AM  
They could always strip down an old aircraft carrier flight deck and use it for launch and capture. I don't know what the girly squeals are for.but they were all air borne before the end of the strip. You don't want a hiccup in an engine but from the looks of the drop off you have plenty of room to get up airspeed anyway.
 
2013-02-24 02:55:44 AM  

Charlie Freak: The vodka burner is still the best takeoff video.


That is unbeloyvable.
 
2013-02-24 02:58:59 AM  
That's not so bad - if you run off the end, well, you're in the air. Long as you're not just putting along.

Someone already posted a Courchevel takeoff vid, but how about landing on a farking ski jump?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pK9uqF4y7c
 
2013-02-24 03:01:12 AM  

Paris1127: And of course, there's no radar. The airport gets a call from Kathmandu saying there's a plane on the way and that's it.

I guess if they want a longer runway in Lukla the Madeirans' solution won't work:
[farm2.staticflickr.com image 640x362]
The runway is longer than it a piers...

But at least at Lukla they don't have to worry about traffic, as in Gibraltar:
[www.hoax-slayer.com image 550x825]

Or highrise apartments, like they used to in Hong Kong:
[howzit-hongkong.com image 750x501]


Or a beach:

dumbimages.net
(links to video)
 
2013-02-24 03:04:53 AM  

styckx: Yep.. Lukla..That video doesn't do the strip justice..

One of the best videos of what it's like to land there:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqop17wUiDk


Fark that.  Fark that with a flaming cactus.  Watching him run out of runway and have to roll straight into a small parking lot and then maneuver until he ran out of momentum made me shiat diamonds.

/On the bright side, free diamonds.
 
2013-02-24 03:07:19 AM  

styckx: strutin: Acharne: Featured Partner: ($$$)  [i563.photobucket.com image 54x11]   One Mobile Service Ad Reimagined As a Fark Link    (Featured Partner)

You people are drunk. Extremely drunk.


Why can't we comment on featured partner links like other links..I think some of the headlines would be great to comment and discuss..25 cereals of our childhoods is a fun topic..Sunny Boy, Red River, Cream of Wheat..then we could go into how the Toys back then were WAY better than they are now!:-)

ok, back on topic:

I'd have a heart attack if I had to land in a plane at Lukla like in that video styckx posted.  It looks like you basically have to almost slam into the side of a mountain and hope to god the brakes work. not for me thanks, I'll walk down to the bottom.

Because we'd shiat all over the sponsor as we rightfully should.

Thankfully Adblock also works on featured sponsor links and I never see them so there is ZERO chance of me accidentally clicking them.


I never said I was clicking them - I refuse to click anything sponsored, or any examiner link for that matter.. I buy totalfark a couple times a year, and I figure that and all the page ads must be plenty outta me..

/wish they'd make adblock for my bloatware of choice.
 
2013-02-24 03:07:27 AM  
wildcardjack:

When I was learning ATC we had a guy at the airport that made his living modding Twin Otters for Alaskan bush pilots.

The stuff those guys do with Super Cubs is unreal.
 
2013-02-24 03:14:10 AM  
Am I the only one that was expecting the planes to drop off the end and get to the final bit of airspeed needed in a dive?
 
2013-02-24 03:17:07 AM  

Psychopusher: styckx: Yep.. Lukla..That video doesn't do the strip justice..

One of the best videos of what it's like to land there:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqop17wUiDk

Fark that.  Fark that with a flaming cactus.  Watching him run out of runway and have to roll straight into a small parking lot and then maneuver until he ran out of momentum made me shiat diamonds.

/On the bright side, free diamonds.


Oh my.  Thanks for that!
 
2013-02-24 03:29:59 AM  
With a few exceptions I've never been on a plane outside of the US and if the FAA does anything right it has been to make flying safer than driving so I have never ever been concerned or even slightly worried that we would crash, not even in a storm with bad turbulence.

Nepal might concern me a bit more, but they probably fly planes out of that airport all the time without incident and that alone would alleviate most of my concerns. From the looks of it, the only problem is that if the pilot has to abort take off he is going to crash in a big way.

OTOH, an aborted take off probably is going to be messy no matter where you are and I've never been on a plane that aborted take off. Once we aborted a landing but that just means I got a few extra frequent flyer miles. Okay, not really, but the plane waitresses weren't amused when I asked if that meant I got more miles. Humorless biatches. I was only kidding.
 
2013-02-24 03:49:02 AM  
I've flown there into Lukla about a dozen times.  Was slightly apprehensive the first time, but after that, not so much.  There have been a few crashes there, though nepal's recent crashes were ironically near ktm and i think the other one was at pokhara.

the problem with lukla is the weather.  anybody and everybody gets stuck there with delays, and it's a bit hilarious watching the idiots who booked their flight out of ktm for the same day that they were going to fly back from lukla.

there's actually an airport higher than lukla - it's in syangboche.    i'm a pilot and from my estimation that one's arguably more difficult to land in because of the terrain, winds, altitude, and lack of thrust reversers.  it's a 4-6 minute flight from lukla, but it can save 2 days of hiking.  however, nobody takes this except for japanese tourists staying at the nearby japanese hotel as those two days are needed for acclimatization assuming you're going higher, as almost everybody is.
 
2013-02-24 03:55:05 AM  

strutin: I never said I was clicking them - I refuse to click anything sponsored, or any examiner link for that matter.. I buy totalfark a couple times a year, and I figure that and all the page ads must be plenty outta me..

/wish they'd make adblock for my bloatware of choice.


Adblock has its uses, but it pales in comparison to the power of Hostsman. Check it out (assuming Windows something), you might be surprised how great it is to not have your bandwidth leeched by as many things as you may have running now.


http://www.abelhadigital.com/hostsman
 
2013-02-24 03:58:05 AM  
 
2013-02-24 04:01:32 AM  
Happy Hours: the only problem is that if the pilot has to abort take off he is going to crash in a big way.

I always take heart in the fact that the pilot's life is on the line as much as mine, if not more because they have a front seat view.
 
2013-02-24 04:05:56 AM  

cmunic8r99: Paris1127: And of course, there's no radar. The airport gets a call from Kathmandu saying there's a plane on the way and that's it.

I guess if they want a longer runway in Lukla the Madeirans' solution won't work:
[farm2.staticflickr.com image 640x362]
The runway is longer than it a piers...

But at least at Lukla they don't have to worry about traffic, as in Gibraltar:
[www.hoax-slayer.com image 550x825]

Or highrise apartments, like they used to in Hong Kong:
[howzit-hongkong.com image 750x501]

Or a beach:

[dumbimages.net image 850x470]
(links to video)


Or lava:
gorilla.wildlifedirect.org
 
2013-02-24 04:11:21 AM  
The wings are so tiny compared with the fuselage--and yet they have no trouble taking off at 10,000 feet.  WTF?
 
2013-02-24 04:19:15 AM  

Acharne: strutin: I never said I was clicking them - I refuse to click anything sponsored, or any examiner link for that matter.. I buy totalfark a couple times a year, and I figure that and all the page ads must be plenty outta me..

/wish they'd make adblock for my bloatware of choice.

Adblock has its uses, but it pales in comparison to the power of Hostsman. Check it out (assuming Windows something), you might be surprised how great it is to not have your bandwidth leeched by as many things as you may have running now.


http://www.abelhadigital.com/hostsman


That's pretty nifty and a lot easier than manual..(I only got as far as '127.0.0.1 googleads.g.doubleclick.net' and whatever else spybot stuck in there:-)
 
2013-02-24 04:19:43 AM  
Well, you're getting in the air no matter what. It's more an issue of how long you spend in it.
 
2013-02-24 04:22:41 AM  

LincolnLogolas: Well, you're getting in the air no matter what. It's more an issue of how long you spend in it.


It tends to need to have p2p added to the exception list.

My favourite feature is possibly just the fact that ads before google videos no longer load. I just get 'Video load error' and then my content loads.
 
2013-02-24 04:24:38 AM  
It takes more courage to fly in a Boeing in perfect conditions than to fly in those planes in Nepal.
 
2013-02-24 04:26:35 AM  
Goddamnit. Lemme try again:
===============
strutin: That's pretty nifty and a lot easier than manual..(I only got as far as '127.0.0.1 googleads.g.doubleclick.net' and whatever else spybot stuck in there:-)

Acharne: LincolnLogolas: Well, you're getting in the air no matter what. It's more an issue of how long you spend in it.


It tends to need to have p2p added to the exception list, just the sites. That's not a big deal though.

My favourite feature is possibly just the fact that ads before google videos no longer load. I just get 'Video load error' and then my content loads.
 
2013-02-24 05:04:08 AM  

the_chief: Looked like a Lego plane. Which direction do they land?


The other way.  Take off RWY 24, land RWY 6. The term for that is "One way runway", where terrain or other obstacles prevent approach/departure on one side of the airport.

Runways like that usually have the note "go-arounds impossible" in the A/FD.

--Carlos V.
 
2013-02-24 05:10:00 AM  
cmunic8r99: Or a beach:

Ahh St Maarten, I know it well :D

// sit at the Sunset Bar, watch planes land, shoot photos.

sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net

sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net

sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net

And the airport on neighboring Saba island gets shut down due to wind on a regular basis.

sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2013-02-24 05:34:11 AM  

lordargent: cmunic8r99: Or a beach:

Ahh St Maarten, I know it well :D

// sit at the Sunset Bar, watch planes land, shoot photos.

[sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 480x720]

[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 480x720]

[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 480x720]

And the airport on neighboring Saba island gets shut down due to wind on a regular basis.

[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x480]


The wildest rides down here are still St. Barts and Beef island for me.
Cyril E. King certainly made my list before they carved out the hill and extended the runway.

Now its practically tame...

dl.dropbox.com
 
2013-02-24 05:36:08 AM  
Somehow, the list of "incidents and accidents" for this airport is completely and totally unsurprising.
 
2013-02-24 05:59:06 AM  

dbirchall: Somehow, the list of "incidents and accidents" for this airport is completely and totally unsurprising.


The thing the I find surprising is that it is that short.  Even if it is only open part of the year (presumably)
 
2013-02-24 06:23:35 AM  
Lukla airport is pretty fun. The best part is how they turn the planes around in about 5 minutes - more like a bus than a flight.

That said, I didn't find flying into or out of it particularly scary.
 
2013-02-24 06:37:38 AM  
Let me see...I don't like heights at all, and I'm not a huge fan of flying.

Going to cross Lukla Airport off my list of travel destinations right now.
 
2013-02-24 06:50:17 AM  
That "runway" is missing two things - Arrestor wires and a catapult.
 
2013-02-24 07:03:48 AM  
Not a pilot, but if I was, before takeoff, I'd be tempted to get out and push the plane backwards until its tail touched that fence.

Of course its academic, because I would never land there.
 
2013-02-24 07:18:00 AM  

UsikFark: costermonger: Courchevel

Deploy flaps!


Single engine piston ops in the Alps? No thank you.
 
2013-02-24 07:43:05 AM  

mr_a: Not a pilot, but if I was, before takeoff, I'd be tempted to get out and push the plane backwards until its tail touched that fence.

Of course its academic, because I would never land there.


In aviation, there are 2 things you can't use: The fuel left in the truck and the runway behind you.
 
2013-02-24 07:52:26 AM  

Archie Goodwin: That "runway" is missing two things - Arrestor wires and a catapult.


Came here to say that... that is one crazy airfield.

I wonder if they actually LAND on 24? If they do, they'd better provide replacement underwear for the passengers. Then again, the should so so even for landing on 6. Based on the picture above I'm not sure it would be even possible to do so unless you were flying some sort of purpose-built STOL craft.
 
2013-02-24 07:59:51 AM  

cmunic8r99: Paris1127: And of course, there's no radar. The airport gets a call from Kathmandu saying there's a plane on the way and that's it.

I guess if they want a longer runway in Lukla the Madeirans' solution won't work:
[farm2.staticflickr.com image 640x362]
The runway is longer than it a piers...

But at least at Lukla they don't have to worry about traffic, as in Gibraltar:
[www.hoax-slayer.com image 550x825]

Or highrise apartments, like they used to in Hong Kong:
[howzit-hongkong.com image 750x501]

Or a beach:

[dumbimages.net image 850x470]
(links to video)


The take offs look more fun - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qibBvpPB5sE
 
2013-02-24 08:02:50 AM  

Charlie Freak: The little 228s got their asses kicked by that Twin Otter.

The vodka burner is still the best takeoff video.


We have Smirnoff.
 
2013-02-24 08:03:03 AM  
All those people running around the flightline looks crazy, I wonder if they get many prop strikes?
 
2013-02-24 08:05:18 AM  

Fubegra: purpose-built STOL craft


I misspelled VTOL.
 
2013-02-24 08:12:24 AM  

Fubegra: Archie Goodwin: That "runway" is missing two things - Arrestor wires and a catapult.

Came here to say that... that is one crazy airfield.

I wonder if they actually LAND on 24? If they do, they'd better provide replacement underwear for the passengers. Then again, the should so so even for landing on 6. Based on the picture above I'm not sure it would be even possible to do so unless you were flying some sort of purpose-built STOL craft.


I doubt it. It's probably some rule that says it has to be marked regardless of whether it will ever be used.
 
2013-02-24 08:31:05 AM  
Actually, the dangerous part here is for the landscaper who has to mow that thin strip of grass at the far en of the runway.,
 
2013-02-24 08:39:38 AM  
Did the weather clear or something?  Interesting to watch everyone run to the planes.  4 departures in 5 minutes, not sure if Atlanta or Chicago are that quick
 
2013-02-24 08:43:34 AM  
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2013-02-24 08:45:57 AM  
i26.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-24 08:59:14 AM  
I won

mjones73: cmunic8r99: Paris1127: And of course, there's no radar. The airport gets a call from Kathmandu saying there's a plane on the way and that's it.

I guess if they want a longer runway in Lukla the Madeirans' solution won't work:
[farm2.staticflickr.com image 640x362]
The runway is longer than it a piers...

But at least at Lukla they don't have to worry about traffic, as in Gibraltar:
[www.hoax-slayer.com image 550x825]

Or highrise apartments, like they used to in Hong Kong:
[howzit-hongkong.com image 750x501]

Or a beach:

[dumbimages.net image 850x470]
(links to video)

The take offs look more fun - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qibBvpPB5sE


I wonder if Drew surfed the fence this week.
 
2013-02-24 09:00:03 AM  

JohnCarter: Did the weather clear or something?  Interesting to watch everyone run to the planes.  4 departures in 5 minutes, not sure if Atlanta or Chicago are that quick


I can assure you Chicago is that quick

/once landed at O'Hare in one of these:

cdn-www.airliners.net

There were 3 jumbo jets trying to run us over.

That was in the '70s.
maybe I'm stretching the definition of jumbo jet, but there were 3 of them that were much bigger than that and it was interesting.
 
2013-02-24 09:08:53 AM  

Charlie Freak: The little 228s got their asses kicked by that Twin Otter.

The vodka burner is still the best takeoff video.


Jeez! It musta have taken forever to reach V2
 
2013-02-24 09:13:49 AM  

darklingscribe: Happy Hours: the only problem is that if the pilot has to abort take off he is going to crash in a big way.

I always take heart in the fact that the pilot's life is on the line as much as mine, if not more because they have a front seat view.


"The pilot is always the first person at the scene of the accident"
 
2013-02-24 09:16:22 AM  
Some people edit their videos.
 
2013-02-24 09:40:47 AM  

Ranger677: Am I the only one that was expecting the planes to drop off the end and get to the final bit of airspeed needed in a dive?


This, and a herd of goats...
 
2013-02-24 09:45:19 AM  
Oh and if you can track it down, History Channel has a special called "10 Most Extreme Airports", this one is on the list along with some other interesting ones.
 
2013-02-24 09:55:41 AM  
way south: Cyril E. King certainly made my list before they carved out the hill and extended the runway.

Yeah, that's my home airport. I was just back there in December (for the first time in 16 years) and it was mostly the same as I remember it ... except everything seems smaller now.

I guess that's what happens when you go from a 14 mile long island to a 14 mile long commute.

This is the only shot of the runway that I have readily available.
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// Used to have to stop at Puerto Rico and catch an island hopper over. Not missing that at all.

// Still have to deplane using a gangway.
 
2013-02-24 10:14:56 AM  

Mock26: Courcheval's sloped runway for the win!


do not forget the turn halfway down the runway.
 
2013-02-24 10:27:05 AM  

iron_city_ap: mr_a: Not a pilot, but if I was, before takeoff, I'd be tempted to get out and push the plane backwards until its tail touched that fence.

Of course its academic, because I would never land there.

In aviation, there are 2 things you can't use: The fuel left in the truck and the runway behind you.


and Altitude above you
 
2013-02-24 10:55:50 AM  

Liendral: iron_city_ap: mr_a: Not a pilot, but if I was, before takeoff, I'd be tempted to get out and push the plane backwards until its tail touched that fence.

Of course its academic, because I would never land there.

In aviation, there are 2 things you can't use: The fuel left in the truck and the runway behind you.

and Altitude above you


They may be holding themselves down/ground effecting for more speed rather than rotating ASAP - since they are going to run off a cliff and have instant altitude anyway.  The speed could be more important if it it windy/sheary there.
 
2013-02-24 11:30:42 AM  

Archie Goodwin: That "runway" is missing two things - Arrestor wires and a catapult.


I bet the runway is sloped so you get a little extra accel from gravity on takeoff and a nice uphill deccel on landing.
 
2013-02-24 11:34:45 AM  

noitsnot: Liendral: iron_city_ap: mr_a: Not a pilot, but if I was, before takeoff, I'd be tempted to get out and push the plane backwards until its tail touched that fence.

Of course its academic, because I would never land there.

In aviation, there are 2 things you can't use: The fuel left in the truck and the runway behind you.

and Altitude above you

They may be holding themselves down/ground effecting for more speed rather than rotating ASAP - since they are going to run off a cliff and have instant altitude anyway.  The speed could be more important if it it windy/sheary there.


If you're going to stay in ground effect, then get off the runway. The drag of the wheels on pavement will negate the benefit of ground effect, plus it can lead to other problems like porpoising or wheelbarrowing as all the tail up force starts the tail flying.
 
2013-02-24 12:00:19 PM  
Here is where I learned
Landing is easy...takeoff can be butt-pucking
 
2013-02-24 12:06:42 PM  

Paris1127: But at least at Lukla they don't have to worry about traffic, as in Gibraltar:


I've always wondered if they have to walk that section of the runway for random car debris every time.
 
2013-02-24 01:04:52 PM  
1.096 feet USS Gerald Ford
w/steamcatapult

www.hightech-edge.com

1,500 feet
/gravity assist

www.simtours.net

Long string of words that will cause Mods to ban me forever. (+) No thank you.
 
2013-02-24 01:10:40 PM  
I flew into Lukla in '98 BEFORE they had tarmac (I was surprised to see pavement).  Departures move quick in the AM because the clouds settle in fast and take offs are impossible once they do. Still doesn't look like there is a tower there and a instrument landing would be risky. My departure was canceled due to clouds (ie fog), which was followed by a very apologetic "well there's another option...but it costs extra".  Extra being $20, and the option being helicopter!  Heck, $20 extra for a ~hour long chopper ride?! sign me up!!
 
2013-02-24 01:14:57 PM  

Bomb Head Mohammed: I've flown there into Lukla about a dozen times.  Was slightly apprehensive the first time, but after that, not so much.  There have been a few crashes there, though nepal's recent crashes were ironically near ktm and i think the other one was at pokhara.

the problem with lukla is the weather.  anybody and everybody gets stuck there with delays, and it's a bit hilarious watching the idiots who booked their flight out of ktm for the same day that they were going to fly back from lukla.

there's actually an airport higher than lukla - it's in syangboche.    i'm a pilot and from my estimation that one's arguably more difficult to land in because of the terrain, winds, altitude, and lack of thrust reversers.  it's a 4-6 minute flight from lukla, but it can save 2 days of hiking.  however, nobody takes this except for japanese tourists staying at the nearby japanese hotel as those two days are needed for acclimatization assuming you're going higher, as almost everybody is.


If one might ask ... how come you to fly into Tenzing-Hillary a few dozen times? Not prying, but am an inquisitive cowpoke ... climber? guide? pilot?
 
2013-02-24 01:15:30 PM  

hunh: I flew into Lukla in '98 BEFORE they had tarmac (I was surprised to see pavement).  Departures move quick in the AM because the clouds settle in fast and take offs are impossible once they do. Still doesn't look like there is a tower there and a instrument landing would be risky. My departure was canceled due to clouds (ie fog), which was followed by a very apologetic "well there's another option...but it costs extra".  Extra being $20, and the option being helicopter!  Heck, $20 extra for a ~hour long chopper ride?! sign me up!!


There seems to be a tower opposite the runway from the ramp. A tower is mentioned on the Lukla wiki page.
 
2013-02-24 01:48:13 PM  

Acharne: Charlie Freak: The little 228s got their asses kicked by that Twin Otter.

The vodka burner is still the best takeoff video.

Holy crap! Holy effin' crap.


And this for the tower:

'I'm running out of film. I won't have enough to film the crash!'
 
2013-02-24 02:22:23 PM  

Victoly: Mock26: Also, St. Bart's Toncontín's runway at the bottom of a hill for second place.

FTFY


Both at the bottom of a hill, but Tegucigalpa's hill was bulldozed in 2007 and the runway was lengthened in 2009. St. Bart's is muuuuch tougher.
 
2013-02-24 02:24:23 PM  

WhyteRaven74: Here's something to make your jaw drop, that's a paved runway in a town with no roads leading to it.


What is...almost any town in Alaska?
 
2013-02-24 02:26:54 PM  

WrathofDog: The takeoff isn't as bad as it looks. On a shorter runway, you hold the plane down until the last minute. Sure, there isn't exactly room to abort, but that that's not really completely unusual for bigger planes or smaller airports or both (respectively speaking).

Besides, those little CASA C-212s have 10 to 1 wings and uncomfortable amounts of lift on takeoff. Really, if you don't hold them down, you just pogo down the runway. As for the runway, its 460m. Bare minimum for the Casa at full weight is 400m. Takeoff is within tolerances. That said, landing looks like serious brown-pants time.


No CASAs in the video. Just 3 228s and a twotter.
 
2013-02-24 04:12:30 PM  
there's a video of a russian prop plane, taking off from a mud field.  I thought surely it would end badly

.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWUG1FuALaw
 
2013-02-24 09:05:24 PM  

danno_to_infinity: there's a video of a russian prop plane, taking off from a mud field.  I thought surely it would end badly

.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWUG1FuALaw


That is utterly unbelievable.
 
2013-02-24 09:34:32 PM  

danno_to_infinity: there's a video of a russian prop plane, taking off from a mud field.  I thought surely it would end badly

.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWUG1FuALaw


What is that, A Dash-8ski? I know a lot of Russian military planes have mud deflectors on the gear, but that's ridiculous.
 
2013-02-24 09:37:02 PM  

danno_to_infinity: there's a video of a russian prop plane, taking off from a mud field.  I thought surely it would end badly

.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWUG1FuALaw


Wow, hadn't seen that one. Amazing. Almost like a water takeoff, he just had to get up on the step and away it went. I would have waited a while to retract the gear with all that mud on it, though.
 
2013-02-24 09:39:04 PM  

The_Eliminator: danno_to_infinity: there's a video of a russian prop plane, taking off from a mud field.  I thought surely it would end badly

.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWUG1FuALaw

What is that, A Dash-8ski? I know a lot of Russian military planes have mud deflectors on the gear, but that's ridiculous.


an-24
 
2013-02-24 11:15:51 PM  
Yeah, I've flown on... Yetti Airlines...  Whoosh!
 
2013-02-25 09:17:14 AM  

danno_to_infinity: there's a video of a russian prop plane, taking off from a mud field.  I thought surely it would end badly

.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWUG1FuALaw


Same takeoff, passenger's point of view.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGGduq-xb88
 
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