Repo Man: If your video card is more than six months old, it's out of date.
Repo Man: jake_lex: Shostie: I don't think anyone who buys a console wants it to out-perform a PC. They just want a machine they can play games on without a whole lot of hassle.This. I don't want to buy a game, get it home, and discover my computer's video card is out of date after I've opened the box, thus making it impossible for me to return the software.If your video card is more than six months old, it's out of date. But how old would it have to be to not run a new release at all? Pretty goddamned old for the most part. PC games are set up to run on a spectrum of hardware, from barely running on the minimum spec, to smooth as butter with all of the pretty turned on at the bleeding edge. Just read the box, and you'll generally be fine. And isn't the occasional hardware upgrade part of the fun?
coco ebert: Is this like a thing people argue about?
kab: Repo Man: If your video card is more than six months old, it's out of date.This statement hasn't been relevant in years.
Snapper Carr: Am I the only person who uses both?
gaspode: become obsolete much faster (well, need upgrading anyway)
Fubini: Far Cry 3 - Free vs$ 60
jakepowers: $2000 PC or $500 Playstation/$300 Xbox?It seems pretty clear to me which will be more popular
Lsherm: Fubini: Far Cry 3 - Free vs$ 60I am loving Far Cry 3. I had to pay $30 for it though. When were they offering it for free?
Snapper Carr: Am I the only person who uses both?Consoles are fine for the vast majority of games but there are certain types of games that you really need a PC to get the most out of - I think if I tried to play a Civ game with a PS3 controller I would lose my mind. Also some games just feel right on a PC platform (most recent example I can think of is XCom:Enemy Unknown). PS3 demo left me kinda meh but playing the PC version just felt like I was home
Spanky_McFarksalot: I gave up pc gaming once I hooked the xbox up to a nice big screen tv and played it kicked back in a nice comfortable chair.nows theres nothing on my lap except your mom.
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Hyjamon: traylor: [www.mopo.ca image 502x361]what the hell causes that?
GAT_00: I'll say what I said last time we did this: PC markets will never die because games like Crusader Kings will never work on consoles, and there's plenty of market for grand strategy games.Relatively Obscure: JUST got my first PC that could qualify as high..ish.. end. It's lovely, but the price tag was not.Did you buy it assembled or build it yourself? I have an 8GB RAM system, 1GB GeForce 460 SE card, and a 6 core, 3.2GB processor. Admittedly the RAM is a bit slower, I think it's 1333 RAM, but I still only spent 1K on all that.
revrendjim: Didn't read the thread so this was probably covered, but I can't build a gaming quality PC for $300.
Fubini: assume they cost $50 each
Relatively Obscure: I was going to assemble it myself originally (I can and have, but.. I can't say I specifically LIKE to)
dyhchong: Add that cost to your console because you still own a PC regardless.
Fubini: revrendjim: Didn't read the thread so this was probably covered, but I can't build a gaming quality PC for $300.But then you pay twice as much for all the games you buy. I have about 15 games in my 360 library, and if I were able to save $30 on all of them that'd be $450 in savings. I don't normally pay $60 for a game, but I do for some, so assume they cost $50 each:$300 for console$900 in games @ $60 each x 15$120 in controllers @ $40 x 3$200 in XBL @ $40 x 5 yearsSo the total is $1520 over five years. The PC premium isn't much more than that:$1100 for a very nice PC$450 in games @ $30 each x 15No controllersNo XBLFor a total of $1550 over five years.I was able to get Borderlands 2 for $30 on Steam less than 2 months or so after release.
dyhchong: Stop, just stop.
omeganuepsilon: Relatively Obscure: I was going to assemble it myself originally (I can and have, but.. I can't say I specifically LIKE to)I don't do it anymore for one simple reason. If something farks up, I can typically send the whole thing back. I don't have to worry about ESD or bending a pin/scratching a contact/etc.Few things compare to a tower that just sits there because you had to return a stick of ram or a hdd. Worth the tad extra, IF it's extra. Most places that custom configure are pretty damned reasonable. (Well, the high traffic sites(IE cyberpower), plenty of ma&pa type stores that charge out the wazoo). Unless you're a serious bargain bin hunter, you're not saving a huge bundle.It all falls apart of course if you're picky on the motherboard or otherwise really into specific parts that are outside the configurators.______________________As to the article. As if someone said the console was better....Pointless article is pointless. Bang for your buck, consoles win out, and multiplayer / friendslists / guests / comfort factor. Otherwise PC's win out with sheer power at the cost.Who in their right mind does not know this? Who is that article for?dyhchong: Add that cost to your console because you still own a PC regardless.No. If there were some sort of interoperability with games then maybe. But no.They mimic eachother, but do not really add to the experience at all, either or. About all you can do with a PC is mod gamesaves and stream movies. Other than that it's irrelevant to the console and not part of the cost.
LesserEvil: 4K displays may not become mainstream for another 10 years (is there really a need for this in the home?)
Relatively Obscure: consoles are quite a lot cheaper and do a pretty good job of being perfectly fun.
Fubini: Fubini: assume they cost $50 eachWoops, the total for the console over 5 years should be $1370.
meanmutton: Relatively Obscure: consoles are quite a lot cheaper and do a pretty good job of being perfectly fun.This should, honestly, be the conversation ender.
omeganuepsilon: Few things compare to a tower that just sits there because you had to return a stick of ram or a hdd. Worth the tad extra, IF it's extra. Most places that custom configure are pretty damned reasonable. (Well, the high traffic sites(IE cyberpower), plenty of ma&pa type stores that charge out the wazoo). Unless you're a serious bargain bin hunter, you're not saving a huge bundle.
GAT_00: dyhchong: Stop, just stop.What, I'm not allowed to be proud of my only slightly behind the edge computer?
ZeroCorpse: 0. Like it or not, games like Angry Birds, Farmville, Cut the Rope, and Fruit Ninja are "real" videogames, and no biatching about how "real" gamers only play Call of Duty, Crysis, and World of Warcraft is going to change the fact that casual gaming has been more popular than twitch/FPS gaming since the invention of Pong, followed by the popularity of Space Invaders, Pac-Man, Tetris, Myst, Lemmings, and thousands of other casual titles that were played by more people than any FPS or RTS, ever.
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