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2013-02-23 05:51:43 PM  

banshee612: Here's a video of the crash from the grandstands and the aftermath. The film was taken right next to where the tire landed.

http:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVW65Tyji_s&feature=youtu.be


Look before you post.
 
2013-02-23 05:51:52 PM  

mjones73: Cheese and Rice: mjones73: mjones73: Cheese and Rice: NASCAR dudes, what's that white vapor looking stuff streaming off the cars?

Quick dry they put down on the track from the previous wreck, it's like dust, the cars are kicking up what's left of it.

Oh did you mean during the actual racing or during the wreck? The wreck is tire smoke and whatever other fluids is coming of out of those cars after they were hit.

I should have been more clear. During the last couple of laps before the crash the cars emit some sorts of vapor from the wheel wells and the leading edge of the  hood. Dude up thread said they overheat towards the end and the drivers don't care, they just go for it.

It's Quick Dry on the track, only place you'd see steam is the overflow up on the hood by the windshield.


Sorry I meant Speedy Dry. That's the white dust you see kicked up by all the cars on the one part of the track in the video showing them racing over a lap before the wreck.
 
2013-02-23 05:52:06 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: I've heard it said that the only true sports are auto racing and rock climbing...

Because there is actually risk of the demise of the participants.


Tell that to boxers like Duk Koo Kim and Benny Paret.
 
2013-02-23 05:52:14 PM  

RealAmericanHero: Ima4nic8or: Jesus!! Really??? Its steam.  Cars have these things called radiators and these radiators contain this stuff called water. The water is used to cool the engine and in the process picks up a significant amount of heat....

Lovely attitude. "I know this information, but other people don't? How dare they not have the same interests as I do, and therefore have the audacity to ask questions in my presence!"



Yes, how dare someone assume that stuff from the first few hours of driver's ed would be common knowledge. I bet those people think we know how to operate gas pumps and parking brakes too.
 
2013-02-23 05:52:57 PM  

banshee612: Here's a video of the crash from the grandstands and the aftermath. The film was taken right next to where the tire landed.

http:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVW65Tyji_s&feature=youtu.be


Jesus f*cking Christ.
 
2013-02-23 05:53:13 PM  

TeamEd: Popcorn Johnny: Fan video from the stands.

All of a sudden, there's a tire there. Wow.


The guy standing beside the camera person is shaking.

/I would be
 
2013-02-23 05:53:16 PM  

Cheese and Rice: NASCAR dudes, what's that white vapor looking stuff streaming off the cars?


low atmosphere contrails used to deliver unknown chemicals/poisons to the drivers and fans.  i'm assuming it's a mind control substance, perhaps to instill a phobia of turning right.
 
2013-02-23 05:54:00 PM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: BeSerious: I hope they ban the sport.

/crosses fingers.

I don't watch it, or even appreciate it as a sport, but it does a lot of good for society.  Think of all the safety features in your car that were originally invented for racing, then made it into consumer cars.  Hint: most of them started in racing. on the S Class and Volvos



That being said I wish NASCAR went back to being stock car like the Le Mans GT classes. The whole point of NASCAR being a manufacture series and requiring 500 units to be sold is gone, whats the point of a V8 rear wheel drive "Camry"? Either that or go F1 and have a common body
 
2013-02-23 05:54:10 PM  
Daytona?  The ghost of Dead Retard was just looking for some company, maybe he'll have a fan to talk to now.
 
2013-02-23 05:54:39 PM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: hink of all the safety features in your car that were originally invented for racing, then made it into consumer cars. Hint: most of them started in racing.


True, many automotive safety systems were designed for racing.  Very few road car safety systems were invented by or for NASCAR.

NASCAR doesn't spend their own money on safety R&D.  NASCAR waits for Indycar, road racing, or the FIA to develop a system, then, sometimes as much as a decade later, triumph's "their" new (decade old) safety system.

/NASCAR's insurers need to send them a wake-up call.  In the form of 10x rates.
 
2013-02-23 05:55:03 PM  
Hey GAT,
stick to watching figure skating and ice curling.
 
2013-02-23 05:55:05 PM  

A Fark Handle: low atmosphere contrails used to deliver unknown chemicals/poisons to the drivers and fans. i'm assuming it's a mind control substance, perhaps to instill a phobia of turning right.


I don't know about you, but when the road turns left, and to the right is a big wall, I would be afraid of turning right, too. Wouldn't even need chemicals, just a natural fear of crashing.
 
2013-02-23 05:55:24 PM  
These aren't real races.

Daytona and Talladega should either be cut down bankingwise or bulldozed and replaced by two short tracks.

And NASCAR has been using their shiatty restrictor plates since 1988, because Bobby Allison tore the shiatty catchfence down at Talladega. But the plates don't work, they just bunch the cars up and make acidents like this possible.

fark NASCAR, they want dead fans and drivers, because they';ve had 25 years to fix this problem and haven't.
 
2013-02-23 05:56:24 PM  

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: banshee612: Here's a video of the crash from the grandstands and the aftermath. The film was taken right next to where the tire landed.

http:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVW65Tyji_s&feature=youtu.be

Jesus f*cking Christ.


And NASCAR has already taken it down.
 
2013-02-23 05:56:24 PM  
do NASCAR tickets come with fine print?  Is it like a ski lift ticket, where, if you look really close, you see that your death is your problem, should you die?
 
2013-02-23 05:56:39 PM  

RandomRandom: NASCAR doesn't spend their own money on safety R&D. NASCAR waits for Indycar, road racing, or the FIA to develop a system, then, sometimes as much as a decade later, triumph's "their" new (decade old) safety system.


Holy crap.. You could not be more wrong.
 
2013-02-23 05:56:58 PM  

stirfrybry: Hey GAT,
stick to watching figure skating and ice curling.


Christ no!  Do you know how many stubbed toes and carpal tunnel injuries you can get from curling!  That'll be next on the ban list!

/just started curling this year.  A LOT more physical that it looks
 
2013-02-23 05:57:01 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Popcorn Johnny: A tire rocketed through the fence and into the stands, not good at all.

No kidding.  I was at the Flemington speedway (dirt track, been closed for awhile) when I was a kid and a tire came off one of the cars onto a ramp between the stands and killed a guy.  Poor guy never had a chance when something that big and heavy is coming that fast at you.


Flemington was a great track...that horrible incident aside.
 
2013-02-23 05:57:04 PM  

Dinodork: Dumb-Ass-Monkey: banshee612: Here's a video of the crash from the grandstands and the aftermath. The film was taken right next to where the tire landed.

http:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVW65Tyji_s&feature=youtu.be

Jesus f*cking Christ.

And NASCAR has already taken it down.


it's on CNN, so they're too late
 
2013-02-23 05:57:22 PM  

Dinodork: Dumb-Ass-Monkey: banshee612: Here's a video of the crash from the grandstands and the aftermath. The film was taken right next to where the tire landed.

http:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVW65Tyji_s&feature=youtu.be

Jesus f*cking Christ.

And NASCAR has already taken it down.


We got it downloaded just in time.
 
2013-02-23 05:57:24 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Fan video from the stands.


what this video really shows is that the view from the sofa is about a trillion times more interesting than the view for the stands.  stare at empty road. stare at empty road.  cars wiz by.  stare at empty road.  stare at empty road. car flies into stands.  stare at empty road.
 
2013-02-23 05:57:25 PM  
Le Mans scoffs at this so-called accident.
 
2013-02-23 05:57:30 PM  
Lets talk about fan riots at soccer stadiums.
 
2013-02-23 05:57:37 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Fan video from the stands.


Looks like the car hit almost exactly where those fence doors were.
 
2013-02-23 05:57:58 PM  

the ha ha guy: Yes, how dare someone assume that stuff from the first few hours of driver's ed would be common knowledge. I bet those people think we know how to operate gas pumps and parking brakes too.


Right, and knowing how your computer's file system works and why you get page faults is on par with knowing how to move your mouse. And I guess my driver's ed teachers were negligent for not explaining the specifics of the steam that appears when driving a car 200 MPH. Oh well, I managed to get by without knowing that extremely crucial and not at all trivial bit of information.
 
2013-02-23 05:58:32 PM  

the ha ha guy: RealAmericanHero: Ima4nic8or: Jesus!! Really??? Its steam.  Cars have these things called radiators and these radiators contain this stuff called water. The water is used to cool the engine and in the process picks up a significant amount of heat....

Lovely attitude. "I know this information, but other people don't? How dare they not have the same interests as I do, and therefore have the audacity to ask questions in my presence!"


Yes, how dare someone assume that stuff from the first few hours of driver's ed would be common knowledge. I bet those people think we know how to operate gas pumps and parking brakes too.


Interestingly, my car doesn't produce steam as I drive it except out of the tailpipe. Same with most cars.
Obviously there's something different with the race cars; as people above said, it's just that they don't care if they overheat. But that would be far from the only option Heck, read that whole thread of conversation -- it sounds like part of it at least may have been Speedy Dry from the track.
 
2013-02-23 05:58:56 PM  

banshee612: Here's a video of the crash from the grandstands and the aftermath. The film was taken right next to where the tire landed.

http:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVW65Tyji_s&feature=youtu.be


Dinodork: Dumb-Ass-Monkey: banshee612: Here's a video of the crash from the grandstands and the aftermath. The film was taken right next to where the tire landed.

http:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVW65Tyji_s&feature=youtu.be

Jesus f*cking Christ.

And NASCAR has already taken it down.


I see their social media department has the lawyers in the room with them while they troll YouTube.
 
2013-02-23 05:59:09 PM  
NASCAR is blocking fan video of the aftermath in the stands on "copyright grounds"

https://twitter.com/bobbychuck/status/305447419930370050
 
2013-02-23 05:59:21 PM  

BunkyBrewman: WhyteRaven74:

Cars have hit that fence scraped along it for 50 yards and it has held. It has held as car parts the size of a dinner table fly into it. It has held as cars have rolled up into it.

Yet it didn't hold today.


Sounds like a MLK speech.
 
2013-02-23 06:00:04 PM  

itsfullofstars: NASCAR is blocking fan video of the aftermath in the stands on "copyright grounds"

https://twitter.com/bobbychuck/status/305447419930370050


Nascar searches and blocks for all videos upload on race day with the race name or nascar in the title.

Not just this one.
 
2013-02-23 06:01:22 PM  

Shadow Blasko: RandomRandom: NASCAR doesn't spend their own money on safety R&D. NASCAR waits for Indycar, road racing, or the FIA to develop a system, then, sometimes as much as a decade later, triumph's "their" new (decade old) safety system.

Holy crap.. You could not be more wrong.


He may be wrong about that part, but NASCAR will not implement safety measures until someone his hurt or killed.

The HANS device, for example... should have been in use long before Dale Earnhardt was killed. 3 drivers had already died of similar injuries before Feb. 18, 2001. But it wasn't. Tey needed their biggest star's brainstem ripped apart before they would do something.

Roof flaps were developed and used by Roush but NASCAR would not allow their use until after Rusty Wallace's crashes in 1993 (IIRC).

NASCAR needs blood on its hands to do anything involving safety.
 
2013-02-23 06:01:33 PM  

banshee612: Here's a video of the crash from the grandstands and the aftermath. The film was taken right next to where the tire landed.

http:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVW65Tyji_s&feature=youtu.be


Farkin' blocked already
 
2013-02-23 06:01:42 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Dude must be the Flash with those reaction times.


Yeah, you're right, a reaction time of several seconds would be pretty unbelievable.
 
2013-02-23 06:02:07 PM  
So now video you shoot on your phone isn't even yours?
 
2013-02-23 06:02:14 PM  

Shadow Blasko: itsfullofstars: NASCAR is blocking fan video of the aftermath in the stands on "copyright grounds"

https://twitter.com/bobbychuck/status/305447419930370050

Nascar searches and blocks for all videos upload on race day with the race name or nascar in the title.

Not just this one.


Someone might just have to make sure they *don't* include "NASCAR" or "Daytona 500" or "Daytona" when posting that video.
 
2013-02-23 06:02:24 PM  
*troll mode on*

This would never happen at a 24 Hours of LeMons race. Guess this proves $500 beaters with amateur drivers are intrinsically safer.
 
2013-02-23 06:02:29 PM  

banshee612: Here's a video of the crash from the grandstands and the aftermath. The film was taken right next to where the tire landed.

http:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVW65Tyji_s&feature=youtu.be


NASCAR PR is on it!

Question:  So if the guy caused the crash on purpose, and people end up getting killed, think you can bring criminal charges for manslaughter?

Seriously, it's been wink wink, nudge nudge knowledge that these guys see taking each other out of a race with a crash as fair game, especially when they're feuding with the other team.  When you're going 200+ mph, and you have fans 100's of feet away, that's pretty irresponsible.

NASCAR will be in it for a huge civil suit, that's a given.  But honestly, I don't see why the guy who caused the crash can't be held criminally responsible for deaths. 
(He won;t be, there too much money in the sport, and that's how the world works)
 
2013-02-23 06:02:35 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: should have been in use long before Dale Earnhardt was killed. 3 drivers had already died of similar injuries before Feb. 18, 2001. But it wasn't. Tey needed their biggest star's brainstem ripped apart before they would do somethin


Except it ALREADY WAS in use. Dale just refused to use it, and it was still optional at the time.
 
2013-02-23 06:02:38 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: These aren't real races.Daytona and Talladega should either be cut down bankingwise or bulldozed and replaced by two short tracks.


Stop watching.
 
2013-02-23 06:03:30 PM  
Was there a Chinese lady driving on the track? Worst drivers ever.

/really though, sorry to hear about this.
//heard the camera man didn't make it.
 
2013-02-23 06:03:36 PM  

Shadow Blasko: FirstNationalBastard: should have been in use long before Dale Earnhardt was killed. 3 drivers had already died of similar injuries before Feb. 18, 2001. But it wasn't. Tey needed their biggest star's brainstem ripped apart before they would do somethin

Except it ALREADY WAS in use. Dale just refused to use it, and it was still optional at the time.


It was in use by Kyle Petty and Brett Bodine. BFD.

It should have been mandatory after Adam Petty and Kenny Irwin wound up dead.
 
2013-02-23 06:03:56 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Popcorn Johnny: Dude must be the Flash with those reaction times.

Yeah, you're right, a reaction time of several seconds would be pretty unbelievable.


So it's several seconds between the car flying through the air and him fist pumping? Perhaps you should go watch the video and get back with us.
 
2013-02-23 06:03:59 PM  

Ima4nic8or: Oh puhleeze. That is just racing. The guy driving behind has a duty to his sponsors, etc to try to win and that is what he did.  He made a last second move.


I know the sponsors would never be on the hook for expenses of those injured, but it would be interesting to see a sponsor pony up for some of the medical expenses here.
 
2013-02-23 06:04:12 PM  

ClavellBCMI: Someone might just have to make sure they *don't* include "NASCAR" or "Daytona 500" or "Daytona" when posting that video


COPD 300 /NASCAR Wreck is what you need to not use.

You also would have to change the video length at this point, as that checksum is under the gun.

-twitter is exploding with people biatching about coverup.. and I bet this was an automated takedown. People going nuts over nothing.
 
2013-02-23 06:04:13 PM  

thorthor: Lets talk about fan riots at soccer stadiums.


Or grandstand fires. From the first flames, it took about 5 minutes to get to this point. Bradford Disaster.
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2013-02-23 06:04:18 PM  

TiiiMMMaHHH: do NASCAR tickets come with fine print?  Is it like a ski lift ticket, where, if you look really close, you see that your death is your problem, should you die?


Yes.
 
2013-02-23 06:04:21 PM  
Dude in the video did exactly what I suspected he had done when I saw the still shot of the injury from above.  He took the shirt off his back to help the guy sitting behind him.  I love this community.  Troll away, you can't take that away from us.
 
2013-02-23 06:04:50 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Shadow Blasko: FirstNationalBastard: should have been in use long before Dale Earnhardt was killed. 3 drivers had already died of similar injuries before Feb. 18, 2001. But it wasn't. Tey needed their biggest star's brainstem ripped apart before they would do somethin

Except it ALREADY WAS in use. Dale just refused to use it, and it was still optional at the time.

It was in use by Kyle Petty and Brett Bodine. BFD.

It should have been mandatory after Adam Petty and Kenny Irwin wound up dead.


I agree with you.
 
2013-02-23 06:04:59 PM  

rhiannon: FirstNationalBastard: These aren't real races.Daytona and Talladega should either be cut down bankingwise or bulldozed and replaced by two short tracks.

Stop watching.


I don't watch.Haven't since the bullshiat ending to the 2010 season. But NASCAR is the same old corrupt, slow to react organization they've always been, so the arguments from 1987 still hold up today.
 
2013-02-23 06:05:03 PM  
Remind me to attend NASCAR events...at a minimum distance of 5000 yards
 
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