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(Jalopnik)   Insane crash marks end of Nationwide race at Daytona. Debris in stands, multiple injuries reported   (jalopnik.com) divider line 580
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2013-02-23 05:31:42 PM

mikaloyd: Don't Troll Me Bro!: mikemoto: Don't Troll Me Bro!: mikemoto: Why does this concern you farkers? More than likely it was some Republicans that got hurt.

We're not all as vindictive and hateful towards our fellow man as you.  What's it like to immediately have to put everything into a "your team vs. my team" political spectrum?

Hmm, my sarcasm meter was probably confused with a frog size exaggerator.

Doh! It's just so hard to tell anymore.  We've been through the looking glass for so long it's hard to remember what the normal world was like.  I mean, I've got relatives that seriously blame Obama for the economic collapse that started a year he took office, and will get mad at me for asking how they can blame him for something that happened a year before he took office.  shiat, they were blaming him for the Iraq quagmire just a couple months after his inauguration.

Whered they learn that tactic from?

The Fark Politics tab
 
2013-02-23 05:32:39 PM

mikemoto: Why does this concern you farkers? More than likely it was some Republicans that got hurt.


My friends, who like me are Democrats, are in those stands.  They were off to one side, and are posting pictures.
 
2013-02-23 05:32:49 PM

WhyteRaven74: GreatGlavinsGhost: I don't follow NASCAR, but the stands seem empty, are they always that way?

It's a Nationwide race, that's NASCAR's second tier of racing, the big crows show up for Sprint Cup races, NASCAR's top tier racing.


It's second tier the way minor league baseball would be if Verlander decided to play for the Mudhens for shiats and giggles.
 
2013-02-23 05:33:32 PM
I've heard it said that the only true sports are auto racing and rock climbing...

Because there is actually risk of the demise of the participants.
 
2013-02-23 05:34:46 PM

mikaloyd: Whered they learn that tactic from?


No idea.  They're farking idiots, so I don't put much thought into anything that comes from their mouths.  At least one of them has referred to the President as a n___er, but maintains that he's not a racist because he "hears blacks call each other that all the time, so are they racist against themselves?"  fark him especially.
 
2013-02-23 05:35:22 PM
Well, it's nice to know that apparently other people are allowed to make fun of NASCAR other than myself, especially when it comes to an event which everyone watches NASCAR hoping to see.

It's sad this happened, but do people really expect different when it involves just ONE inadvertent right turn to send car parts flying at 200 mph?
 
2013-02-23 05:35:30 PM

Jensaarai: Benjamin Orr: Is this the thread where people that have never watched a race in their lives come to comment on the cause of the wreck?

Yes.


Well I'm not saying it was aliens...
 
2013-02-23 05:35:39 PM

Day_Old_Dutchie: I've heard it said that the only true sports are auto racing and rock climbing...

Because there is actually risk of the demise of the participants.


That's why NASCAR racing was an event in the ancient olympics- it's the purest athletic competition there is.
 
2013-02-23 05:35:45 PM

Cheese and Rice: NASCAR dudes, what's that white vapor looking stuff streaming off the cars?


Jesus!! Really??? Its steam.  Cars have these things called radiators and these radiators contain this stuff called water. The water is used to cool the engine and in the process picks up a significant amount of heat....
 
2013-02-23 05:35:50 PM

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: Donnchadha: Dumb-Ass-Monkey: JonBuck: Alright. Still, I can't believe those cars were so close together even before the crash.

that's just racing. Happens 36 times a year, give or take, per series.

Yeah, I don't really follow NASCAR and even I knew that they have to do that major drafting thing in order to maintain a leading position. I did notice that they were driving in groups of two -- and only two -- is that a new rule to try to prevent the giant clusterfark, like this?

not a rule, but it's been found that the two car tandem can make for some good speed and good passing, outside of the pack. The rear car drafts off of the leader, and in turn his extra power can push the leader faster. The drivers who were doing the tandem driving were fine, because they were in the lead. Those back in the pack were clumped together, and that's why so many cars got caught up in this wreck, and the Big One that happened just a few laps prior.


The couple superspeedway races I've seen, I remember 44 cars racing in two lines of 22 -- all packed that close. I wasn't sure if they're trying to break up the giant lines by rule at the moment.
 
2013-02-23 05:36:47 PM
NASCAR is too busy getting videos removed from Youtube to worry about a press conference.
 
2013-02-23 05:36:55 PM
I know this makes me a complete goofball, but do you know what I was thinking when I watched the video?

Isn't if funny how nascars lose all traction if they aren't going forward at 200mph?  Watch the yellow car in the youtube video, he's trying to keep it straight and ends up doing several 360's even though he's only going about 60ish.
 
2013-02-23 05:37:45 PM

Day_Old_Dutchie: I've heard it said that the only true sports are auto racing and rock climbing...

Because there is actually risk of the demise of the participants.


They still have boxing, right?
 
2013-02-23 05:38:04 PM

Donnchadha: The couple superspeedway races I've seen, I remember 44 cars racing in two lines of 22 -- all packed that close. I wasn't sure if they're trying to break up the giant lines by rule at the moment.


It's mainly the super speedways, like Daytona and Talledega, where the restrictor plate is in use that they run the tandems. It started last year at Daytona after NASCAR adjusted the aerodynamics of the car.
 
2013-02-23 05:38:36 PM

C18H27NO3: Day_Old_Dutchie: I've heard it said that the only true sports are auto racing and rock climbing...

Because there is actually risk of the demise of the participants.

They still have boxing, right?


Jesus. Are you still taping bumfights?
 
2013-02-23 05:38:46 PM

mjones73: mjones73: Cheese and Rice: NASCAR dudes, what's that white vapor looking stuff streaming off the cars?

Quick dry they put down on the track from the previous wreck, it's like dust, the cars are kicking up what's left of it.

Oh did you mean during the actual racing or during the wreck? The wreck is tire smoke and whatever other fluids is coming of out of those cars after they were hit.


I should have been more clear. During the last couple of laps before the crash the cars emit some sorts of vapor from the wheel wells and the leading edge of the  hood. Dude up thread said they overheat towards the end and the drivers don't care, they just go for it.
 
2013-02-23 05:39:06 PM
HempHead: Shadow Blasko: GAT_00: Shocking.  A chain link fence is not up to stopping real dangers resulting from cars going 200 MPH with a tendency to wreck.

Its a bit more than a chain link fence..

Looks like a chain link fence. Acts like a chain link fence. Must be a duck.


It has a series of large wire ropes running horizontal. Without those, sure, the whole car would have gone through.
 
2013-02-23 05:39:42 PM

Ima4nic8or: Jesus!! Really??? Its steam.  Cars have these things called radiators and these radiators contain this stuff called water. The water is used to cool the engine and in the process picks up a significant amount of heat....


Lovely attitude. "I know this information, but other people don't? How dare they not have the same interests as I do, and therefore have the audacity to ask questions in my presence!"
 
2013-02-23 05:39:54 PM

Day_Old_Dutchie: I've heard it said that the only true sports are auto racing and rock climbing...

Because there is actually risk of the demise of the participants.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sportspeople_who_died_during_th ei r_careers

ctrl+f "in game" and "in-game" turned up 22 hits, mostly football from neck injuries.  I'm sure there's a ton more
 
2013-02-23 05:40:15 PM

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: Donnchadha: The couple superspeedway races I've seen, I remember 44 cars racing in two lines of 22 -- all packed that close. I wasn't sure if they're trying to break up the giant lines by rule at the moment.

It's mainly the super speedways, like Daytona and Talledega, where the restrictor plate is in use that they run the tandems. It started last year at Daytona after NASCAR adjusted the aerodynamics of the car.


my bad, 2011, not 2012
 
2013-02-23 05:40:30 PM

Ima4nic8or: It must be a tough balancing act for Nascar. On the one hand you want to minimize the risk of anyone getting hurt. On the other hand you want fans to be able to get close to the action.


Most who follow motorsports have known for years that these fences were inadequate at high velocities.  NASCAR has never tried to truly address the problem.  Hell, these fences are inadequate for much lighter Indycars.

Most think the fence problem has never been truly addressed because there is no self evident solution.  NASCAR would have to test and design and test and design their own solution, at great expense.  NASCAR isn't much for spending their own money on safety R&D.  Most of NASCAR's much triumphed safety systems were designed by others.  The SAFER barrier was designed university researchers at the impetus of Indycar, not NASCAR.  HANS was designed by independent engineers connected to road racing, not NASCAR.

NASCAR does a lot of talking about safety, but leaves the heavy lifting of R&D spending to others.

It's about time NASCAR's insurers dropped them or skyrocketed their rates.  Money is the only thing that will wake up the NASCAR head office.
 
2013-02-23 05:40:55 PM

BronyMedic: Well, it's nice to know that apparently other people are allowed to make fun of NASCAR other than myself, especially when it comes to an event which everyone watches NASCAR hoping to see.

It's sad this happened, but do people really expect different when it involves just ONE inadvertent right turn to send car parts flying at 200 mph?


Really?  You don't get why your pock mocking NASCAR fans by implying that they would be cheering at people getting injured would be offensive?

And no, you really don't expect this at all.  I've been watching races, live and n TV, for 2 decades now.  I don't even need to move to my toes to count the number of times I've seen accidents ilke this, where the spectators get involved.  It's horrific.  Driver injuries, even deaths, you learn to expect.  But they are taking the risks, and getting the rewards.  The spectators don't expect this, no more than that little girl at a hockey game expected to die, no more than a person at a baseball game expects major reconstructive surgery after a bat goes into the stands.
 
2013-02-23 05:41:03 PM
A guy got hit in the head with the tire and is in critical condition according to the buzz on Twitter.
 
2013-02-23 05:41:04 PM
I hope they ban the sport.

/crosses fingers.
 
2013-02-23 05:41:41 PM
Trackside on Speed is covering it now.
 
2013-02-23 05:42:34 PM

BeSerious: I hope they ban the sport.

/crosses fingers.


I don't watch it, or even appreciate it as a sport, but it does a lot of good for society.  Think of all the safety features in your car that were originally invented for racing, then made it into consumer cars.  Hint: most of them started in racing.
 
2013-02-23 05:42:54 PM

BronyMedic: Well, it's nice to know that apparently other people are allowed to make fun of NASCAR other than myself,



www.totalprosports.com
 
2013-02-23 05:43:06 PM
It's too early to have a conversation about races and violence.
 
2013-02-23 05:43:18 PM
 
2013-02-23 05:43:40 PM
And nothing of value was lost.
 
2013-02-23 05:43:55 PM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: BeSerious: I hope they ban the sport.

/crosses fingers.

I don't watch it, or even appreciate it as a sport, but it does a lot of good for society.  Think of all the safety features in your car that were originally invented for racing, then made it into consumer cars.  Hint: most of them started in racing.


Also, moonshine.
 
2013-02-23 05:44:03 PM

BronyMedic: especially when it comes to an event which everyone watches NASCAR hoping to see.


You dont speak for me... or other fans. Stop being an asshole. you are better than this.
 
2013-02-23 05:44:33 PM
In case anyone's interested, they're saying 15 injuries, and one person going into surgery for head trauma.
 
2013-02-23 05:44:35 PM

Day_Old_Dutchie: I've heard it said that the only true sports are auto racing and rock climbing...

Because there is actually risk of the demise of the participants.


and bull-fighting.

Hemingway, I believe.
 
2013-02-23 05:45:21 PM
Nasty little wreck, but "insane crash"? Hardly. Yes, debris flew into the stands, but that had nothing to do with the severity of the crash. It was bad luck and/or bad engineering of safety measures.
 
2013-02-23 05:45:36 PM
 
2013-02-23 05:46:35 PM

Cheese and Rice: mjones73: mjones73: Cheese and Rice: NASCAR dudes, what's that white vapor looking stuff streaming off the cars?

Quick dry they put down on the track from the previous wreck, it's like dust, the cars are kicking up what's left of it.

Oh did you mean during the actual racing or during the wreck? The wreck is tire smoke and whatever other fluids is coming of out of those cars after they were hit.

I should have been more clear. During the last couple of laps before the crash the cars emit some sorts of vapor from the wheel wells and the leading edge of the  hood. Dude up thread said they overheat towards the end and the drivers don't care, they just go for it.


It's Quick Dry on the track, only place you'd see steam is the overflow up on the hood by the windshield.
 
2013-02-23 05:46:59 PM

zedster: In other news one million people die a year watching WRC, or at least that's what late night infomercials for "BANNED FROM TV YOU GOT TO SEE THIS ZOMG1111 VIDEOS" has made think

//but really, has to be the most dangerous sport to see live


You've never been to a Pistons game.
 
2013-02-23 05:47:15 PM
Speed reports that 15 fans were sent to local hospitals, and one is currently in surgery.
 
2013-02-23 05:48:05 PM
Well, they wanted car crashes and by god, they got 'em.
 
2013-02-23 05:49:03 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Fan video from the stands.


Wow. Tire in the grandstands.
 
2013-02-23 05:49:05 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Fan video from the stands.


HOLY

CRAP
 
2013-02-23 05:49:18 PM
i50.tinypic.com

i45.tinypic.com

"WOOOOOOOOH!!!! PEOPLE GETTING INJURED IS AWESOME!!"

or

"YEEEHAAAH, IMMA CATCH ME THAT ENGINE!!!!"
 
2013-02-23 05:49:40 PM
Really? You don't get why your pock mocking NASCAR fans by implying that they would be cheering at people getting injured would be offensive?

And no, you really don't expect this at all. I've been watching races, live and n TV, for 2 decades now. I don't even need to move to my toes to count the number of times I've seen accidents ilke this, where the spectators get involved. It's horrific. Driver injuries, even deaths, you learn to expect. But they are taking the risks, and getting the rewards. The spectators don't expect this, no more than that little girl at a hockey game expected to die, no more than a person at a baseball game expects major reconstructive surgery after a bat goes into the stands.

This.
 
2013-02-23 05:50:05 PM

Kurohone: BronyMedic: Well, it's nice to know that apparently other people are allowed to make fun of NASCAR other than myself, especially when it comes to an event which everyone watches NASCAR hoping to see.

It's sad this happened, but do people really expect different when it involves just ONE inadvertent right turn to send car parts flying at 200 mph?

Really?  You don't get why your pock mocking NASCAR fans by implying that they would be cheering at people getting injured would be offensive?

And no, you really don't expect this at all.  I've been watching races, live and n TV, for 2 decades now.  I don't even need to move to my toes to count the number of times I've seen accidents ilke this, where the spectators get involved.  It's horrific.  Driver injuries, even deaths, you learn to expect.  But they are taking the risks, and getting the rewards.  The spectators don't expect this, no more than that little girl at a hockey game expected to die, no more than a person at a baseball game expects major reconstructive surgery after a bat goes into the stands.


Actually you should. I used to bring my baseball glove with me to catch pucks that flew into the crowd. Seen more than a few people get popped in the face by not paying attention. And yes when you go to baseball games you should watch out for bats and balls flying into the crowd as well. It's part of the sport. And unless you want to install fences around every single crowd those things will continue to happen. Same with racing. Even as a kid I knew that when going to an auto race parts flying into the crowd was a possibility.

Now they should always try to improve on safety at these events. And any negligence should be punished. but if you want to be 100% safe at any event stay home and watch it on tv.
 
2013-02-23 05:50:26 PM
Here's a video of the crash from the grandstands and the aftermath. The film was taken right next to where the tire landed.

http:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVW65Tyji_s&feature=youtu.be
 
2013-02-23 05:50:29 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Fan video from the stands.


Wow. Just a few seats away...
 
2013-02-23 05:50:52 PM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: "WOOOOOOOOH!!!! PEOPLE GETTING INJURED IS AWESOME!!"

or

"YEEEHAAAH, IMMA CATCH ME THAT ENGINE!!!!"


or

WOOOOO TONY STEWART WON!!! HOLY SH*T ACCIDENT HAPPENING SO QUICKLY THAT I DON'T HAVE TIME TO REACT BEFORE THE CAMERA SNAPS THIS PICTURE!!
 
2013-02-23 05:50:55 PM

djkutch: It's too early to have a conversation about races and violence.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-23 05:51:02 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Fan video from the stands.


All of a sudden, there's a tire there. Wow.
 
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