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(Sun Sentinel)   Man charged with felonious "polluting to harm humans, animals, plants." His crime? Releasing a dozen helium-filled balloons   (sun-sentinel.com) divider line 53
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2013-02-23 06:44:01 PM  
5 votes:

quatchi: ...he released the shiny red and silver mylar balloons and watched them float away Sunday morning.

Daw!

The third-degree felony is punishable by up to five years in prison.

WTF?

*notices Florida tag*

Well, never mind then.


Doesn't help the perp is black, either, I'm guessing.

...

Man, I'm SO glad I left that state.
2013-02-23 10:03:34 PM  
4 votes:
You people who approve of this shiat deserve to rot in prison.  A felony for releasing helium balloons?

I agree that people shouldn't do it but making it a criminal matter is a miscarriage of justice.

Once again: to those who approve, GO fark YOURSELVES.  fark   Y O U ! ! ! !

Rarely am I this serious.
2013-02-23 09:29:24 PM  
4 votes:
I'm glad it's a crime.

I'm glad someone was charged.

I'm glad this is getting press.

It shouldn't be a felony.
2013-02-24 07:19:38 AM  
3 votes:
The problem is, an American politician can always count on "tough on crime" as am excellent vote getter, so, let's make every minor crime a felony with nice, long sentence in a program pretty much guaranteed to make one more of a criminal during their stay. Regardless of the high cost, now and the future. Because politicians are a pampered class that DESERVE their seats.
s18.postimage.org
I mean you guys toss your income tax evaders into the slammer. Does that make any sense from a financial standpoint?  Try to think it through.

Really, the rest of the civilized world thinks you are absolutely barking mad.
2013-02-23 10:32:23 PM  
3 votes:

shanrick: Mr. Fuzzypaws: Get em, boys!

/ I'm totally serious, that shiat kills a lot of animals

For those who don't know: you just don't do that in Florida. It kills lots of animals, especially sea life such as turtles. which we like.


Unless it's a political convention. Then you release hundreds of thousdans of balloons, of which NONE could possibly ever get out into the environment.

http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/08/the-2012-republican-natio na l-convention/100362/

cdn.theatlantic.com

Either way, no black men were involved with the above example, so there's no problem.
2013-02-23 09:42:54 PM  
3 votes:
Defense Attorney:
So you saw the ballons go up?

Cop:
Yes

Did you see them come down?

No

Surely you have evidence the ballons came down..

No

Did they land in the protected sanctuary and cause a menace to wildlife?

Unknown

Your Honor we move to dismiss........
2013-02-23 09:30:11 PM  
3 votes:

shanrick: For those who don't know: you just don't do that in Florida. It kills lots of animals, especially sea life such as turtles. which we like.


In general, we should probably cut down on the amount of helium we throw away via party balloons and such.  It's a valuable material with some unique properties, and we can't make more of it, short of nuclear reactions.  There's a good bit of it around, but our reserves are shrinking.

Why is there a helium shortage?

This isn't so much on the guy letting the balloons go (I agree with the $100/balloon 'Don't be a littering dick' fine, though.), as the general system.  Given how critical helium is for scientific, defense, and medical applications, any other buyer should have to pay a hefty tax.  Do that, and people won't piss it away in party balloons.
2013-02-23 09:29:57 PM  
3 votes:
Worry worry, super scurry,
Call the troops out in a hurry,
"This is what we've waited for,
This is it boys, this is war!"
The President is on the line,
As 99 red mylar balloons go by.
2013-02-23 09:18:54 PM  
3 votes:
The balloon could travel quite far before returning to earth. Unless they find it, how do they prove that the resulting pollution occurred in state jurisdiction?
2013-02-23 08:54:45 PM  
3 votes:
It's a hazard to aircraft and wildlife.

If there was some kind of edible latex, things would be different but there isn't and mylar is horrible for the environment.

It's sad, and I oppose jail as a punishment for all crimes, but it's understandable that it's illegal and people shouldn't be doing this without the resources to go collect their balloon when they're done.
2013-02-24 12:37:59 AM  
2 votes:

MNguy: PaLarkin:

Seriously the cop is a farking idiot and an asshat.  Mylar balloons hold the helium for a week or more.  Release one on the beach and it won't come down in the park just down the road.  It may go to Europe, Africa or the west coast depending on the wind.

Yeah fark that European and African nature crap.  Who cares?  Let them suffer.


No, that's a straw man argument. A man's time out of prison is more valuable than the life of a sea turtle. Prison is not the answer to all problems. Think your position through more thoroughly.
2013-02-23 11:30:22 PM  
2 votes:

President Merkin Muffley: Lenny_da_Hog: The Snow Dog: Mylar reflects radar. This could cause confusion for air traffic controllers and potentially could cause a catastrophjic accident. Because this is forseeable and because the guy released the balloons on purpose: it is an act of terrorism.

Send the farker to Gitmo!

It's also conductive and can cause damage to power grids.

Mylar is plastic and non conductive YOU DOLT.


Mylar itself is nonconductive, but Mylar balloons are typically coated with a metallic film to make them less gas-permeable, and incidentally, shiny.
2013-02-23 11:02:51 PM  
2 votes:
When balloon releasing is outlawed, only outlaws will have no balloons.
2013-02-23 10:07:05 PM  
2 votes:
California regulates the sale of mylar balloons, and for good damned reason.  We lost power twice in the last year because of them.  They hit a transformer and BOOM!
pla
2013-02-23 09:56:57 PM  
2 votes:
J. Frank Parnell : Well, children are killed by balloons pretty often.

FTA: "Children and balloons do not mix. Keep balloons out of your house."

Dear Mr. Darwin:  We have become too weak to live. Please end this experiment quickly and mercifully. Sincerely, Humanity.

Also FTA: "Balloons, long exempted from regulation by the CPSC, kill more children than any other toy except for bicycles".

Yep.  End it now, we really don't deserve to occupy the same planet as sharks and cats and even boring ol' bees.  They all deserve this world.  They kick arse and don't even bother to take names.  We, on the other hand, die from... Bicycles... and Balloons.  Pathetic.
2013-02-23 09:45:38 PM  
2 votes:

zvoidx: Where is the responsibility of a citizen to have knowledge of this and all laws?

Is that also a law?


It's kind of become common sense at this point.  Also, ignorance isn't an excuse.
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-02-23 09:25:55 PM  
2 votes:
If he ends up in jail he better come up with a better reason he is there. Like a knife fight or robbing a store dressed as hello Kitty.

Littering... and creating a nuisance.
2013-02-23 09:20:28 PM  
2 votes:
I feel much safer knowing this dangerous criminal has been apprehended.
2013-02-23 09:14:53 PM  
2 votes:
This is like the time I was arrested for drunk driving even though I didn't crash.  Where is the justice in America?
2013-02-23 09:02:53 PM  
2 votes:

shanrick: Mr. Fuzzypaws: Get em, boys!

/ I'm totally serious, that shiat kills a lot of animals

For those who don't know: you just don't do that in Florida. It kills lots of animals, especially sea life such as turtles. which we like.


A 5 year jail sentence for letting go of some balloons is disproportional to the point of being a travesty of justice.

100 dollar fine. Max.
2013-02-23 08:22:04 PM  
2 votes:

Mr. Fuzzypaws: Get em, boys!

/ I'm totally serious, that shiat kills a lot of animals


For those who don't know: you just don't do that in Florida. It kills lots of animals, especially sea life such as turtles. which we like.
2013-02-23 07:36:44 PM  
2 votes:
Get em, boys!

/ I'm totally serious, that shiat kills a lot of animals
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-02-23 07:06:22 PM  
2 votes:
In the redlit thread somebody quoted a specific law on releasing lighter than air balloons, with a small fine as penalty. Normally a specific law (no releasing balloons) overrules a more general law (no annoying mother nature). So he should get a $100 fine. But you never know in Florida.
2013-02-23 06:25:56 PM  
2 votes:
...he released the shiny red and silver mylar balloons and watched them float away Sunday morning.

Daw!

The third-degree felony is punishable by up to five years in prison.

WTF?

*notices Florida tag*

Well, never mind then.
2013-02-24 07:26:44 PM  
1 votes:
I was about to say that I would expect this kind of crap from CA, not Florida.  Then I saw the "criminal's" picture and it all came together.  Dont be black when releasing balloons.
2013-02-24 08:53:44 AM  
1 votes:

RealFarknMcCoy2: zvoidx: Where is the responsibility of a citizen to have knowledge of this and all laws?

Is that also a law?

It is, and has always been, YOUR responsibility to know the law. If you don't know what laws may relate to - for instance - releasing helium-filled balloons, then you shouldn't do it without first ascertaining if it is legal. Same goes with jaywalking, stopping at stop signs, graffitti and any other unlawful act. Your responsibility to know and obey the law.

/just sayin'
//don't think he should get jail time, particularly for a first offense.
///do think that releasing helium-filled balloons should be illegal - kills lots of turtles. :-(


Hey everybody! It's one of those "you should know every single law in existence" types.

So can you tell about the time you read all 2500 pages of the US tax code? You memorized every word of it right? I'm sure you did your due diligence by spending quality time with the all the documents of law for your town and your state. Tells us how you have memorized every single law in existence oh wise one.
2013-02-24 02:11:47 AM  
1 votes:
I'd like to see them give tickets to some 80,000 people.
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2013-02-24 01:39:57 AM  
1 votes:
so
how many children have become felons for losing their grip on the balloon string
(is one ok?)
how many have ever been arrested
(or does this apply only to adults?)

should balloons come with the warning DO NOT RELEASE THIS BALLOON UNDER PENALTY OF LAW?

should balloon sellers have to register that their wares were sold to responsible adults

(((more laws will solve everything)))((((not))))
2013-02-24 12:54:26 AM  
1 votes:

PaLarkin: No doubt this will piss off somebody, but to farking bad.

The difference between a liberal and a conservative

Liberal: OMG something is in short supply.  We must make it illegal for the common people to use it and allow it's use only by the elite group we favor.

Conservative: It's in short supply.  Let's find more supplies of it or find ways to make more of it.  If it's in short supply, the price will go up and we'll make a profit on the new supply we create or find.  Also let's look into ways to make more efficient use of it.  That too is a possible way to make money.


I doubt that will piss anybody off.

It might confuse the hell out of a lot of people as they try to understand how this possibly relates to littering with balloons, though.
2013-02-24 12:24:17 AM  
1 votes:

chimp_ninja: shanrick: For those who don't know: you just don't do that in Florida. It kills lots of animals, especially sea life such as turtles. which we like.

In general, we should probably cut down on the amount of helium we throw away via party balloons and such.  It's a valuable material with some unique properties, and we can't make more of it, short of nuclear reactions.  There's a good bit of it around, but our reserves are shrinking.

Why is there a helium shortage?

This isn't so much on the guy letting the balloons go (I agree with the $100/balloon 'Don't be a littering dick' fine, though.), as the general system.  Given how critical helium is for scientific, defense, and medical applications, any other buyer should have to pay a hefty tax.  Do that, and people won't piss it away in party balloons.


It's called the free market.  Someone has some helium and someone else wants it.  They agree on a price and the helium is exchanged for the agreed upon sum of money.  If the scientists want to secure their supplies of helium, let them pay more than the guy who wants to put it in balloons.  It's nobody else's business what the people who own the helium do with it.
2013-02-23 11:28:06 PM  
1 votes:
"Florida" is a state of mind.

/But without the mind
2013-02-23 11:21:41 PM  
1 votes:

quatchi: thisisyourbrainonFark: quatchi: Lenny_da_Hog: It's also conductive and can cause damage to power grids.

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Ya don't say.

Perfection, +1.

*doffs toque in thisisyourbrainonFark's general direction*


I think this thread should have nods to great balloons.

cdn1.elitedaily.com
2013-02-23 11:05:13 PM  
1 votes:

Gyrfalcon: ...are there heavier than air balloons?


you ever blow up a balloon?  What happened when you let it go.  It fell to the ground.  That's heavier-than-air;  The air inside, plus the balloon, weigh more than the air it displaces.
2013-02-23 10:59:35 PM  
1 votes:

Gyrfalcon: ZAZ: In the redlit thread somebody quoted a specific law on releasing lighter than air balloons, with a small fine as penalty. Normally a specific law (no releasing balloons) overrules a more general law (no annoying mother nature). So he should get a $100 fine. But you never know in Florida.

...are there heavier than air balloons?


Sure, you just have to fill them with something heavier. water, for instance.
2013-02-23 10:46:08 PM  
1 votes:

Do the needful: pion: First, he was about 87 balloons short for this to not be a felony.

Second, helium balloons need to be outlawed, period.  Helium is far too valuable to the scientific and medical communities to be wasted in balloons.

According to wikipedia "Helium is the second lightest element and is the second most abundant element in the observable universe, being present at about 24% of the total elemental mass, which is more than 12 times the mass of all the heavier elements combined."

So instead of making stupid ass new laws, if it's so important than find a new way to extract or isolate it. Jesus this is exactly what is wrong with this country. Instead of fixing a problem you want to pass a law against balloons. We are turning into a nation of pussies.


No, as you've so eloquently proven, we're turning into a nation of morons.  You want to know where most of that helium is in the universe? Inside of stars.  So I volunteer you to be the first to try to get it out.  Throwing you into the sun should increase the world's IQ by a point or two.

Why don't you educate yourself about the subject before you waste my time again?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/a-ballooning-problem-the-g re at-helium-shortage-8439108.html

For those of you who aren't idiots, I'm still hopeful that we'll sort out fusion sometime in the next 25-50 years, which will make helium abundant as hell again.
2013-02-23 10:41:22 PM  
1 votes:

Do the needful: pion: First, he was about 87 balloons short for this to not be a felony.

Second, helium balloons need to be outlawed, period.  Helium is far too valuable to the scientific and medical communities to be wasted in balloons.

According to wikipedia "Helium is the second lightest element and is the second most abundant element in the observable universe, being present at about 24% of the total elemental mass, which is more than 12 times the mass of all the heavier elements combined."

So instead of making stupid ass new laws, if it's so important than find a new way to extract or isolate it. Jesus this is exactly what is wrong with this country. Instead of fixing a problem you want to pass a law against balloons. We are turning into a nation of pussies.


So, how do we fix the whole "mylar balloons shorting out power" and "wild animals dying from ingesting balloons" problems, Einstein?? Balloons aren't farking necessities - find another way to amuse yourself.
2013-02-23 10:39:19 PM  
1 votes:
Oops. A whole bunch of science teachers and their kids are waiting for a 3 am knock on their door, followed by a battering ram breaking down the door.
Swat's gonna apprehend those balloon terrorists. Sleep well tonight, unless you've ever "accidentally" a mylar balloon.
2013-02-23 10:37:25 PM  
1 votes:

RealFarknMcCoy2: ///do think that releasing helium-filled balloons should be illegal - kills lots of turtles. :-(


If we really cared we should take the necessary steps to educate the turtles.
2013-02-23 10:22:21 PM  
1 votes:
Much worse than fracking, Kill him!

/Also the people around him bought the ticket and knew what they where getting in to they should pay!
2013-02-23 10:20:11 PM  
1 votes:
First, he was about 87 balloons short for this to not be a felony.

Second, helium balloons need to be outlawed, period.  Helium is far too valuable to the scientific and medical communities to be wasted in balloons.
2013-02-23 10:09:11 PM  
1 votes:
Anthony Brasfield saw romance when he released a dozen heart-shaped balloons into the sky over Dania Beach with his sweetie.

See that, biatch? That's why I'm never trying to act romantic. DO YOU WANT ME TO SEE IN JAIL???
2013-02-23 10:08:18 PM  
1 votes:

Asphyxium: You people who approve of this shiat deserve to rot in prison.  A felony for releasing helium balloons?

I agree that people shouldn't do it but making it a criminal matter is a miscarriage of justice.

Once again: to those who approve, GO fark YOURSELVES.  fark   Y O U ! ! ! !

Rarely am I this serious.


I don't think it should be a felony but it should definitely should be illegal.
pla
2013-02-23 09:58:32 PM  
1 votes:
doglover : What are we, savages?

No - Retards, apparently.

Bikes and frickin' balloons!
2013-02-23 09:55:43 PM  
1 votes:

fusillade762: doglover: It's a hazard to aircraft and wildlife.

Not to mention power lines.


Those should be below ground. What are we, savages?
2013-02-23 09:48:12 PM  
1 votes:

zvoidx: Where is the responsibility of a citizen to have knowledge of this and all laws?

Is that also a law?


There is something about ignorance of the law not making someone exempt from it.

I do think prison would be a bit much, but on the other hand if it was just a small fine or warning no one would ever stop doing it, and it would take people longer to hear about. Somewhere in the middle would be ideal. People seriously need to stop this kind of crap immediately.
2013-02-23 09:26:29 PM  
1 votes:
We need to increase prison funding to keep these balloon-releasers off the streets.  Do you want these people around YOUR CHILDREN!?
2013-02-23 09:25:54 PM  
1 votes:

Mr. Fuzzypaws: quatchi: 100 dollar fine. Max.

Per balloon. Check out that video I posted if you hadn't already.


The Komen pink balloon release thingy?

I thought you were gonna post a vid link that explained the specific dangers of balloons to animals.

That was a bit of a disappointment in that regard.

Mass balloon releases as publicity stunts have been around for a while. Educating the public on the specific dangers to wildlife caused by such and changing laws to reflect that will take some time. This just looks like arbitrary enforcement of a rarely used law with possible racist bias.
2013-02-23 09:25:04 PM  
1 votes:

The Snow Dog: Mylar reflects radar. This could cause confusion for air traffic controllers and potentially could cause a catastrophjic accident. Because this is forseeable and because the guy released the balloons on purpose: it is an act of terrorism.

Send the farker to Gitmo!


It's also conductive and can cause damage to power grids.
2013-02-23 09:23:29 PM  
1 votes:
BAN ASSAULT BALLOONS!
2013-02-23 09:21:21 PM  
1 votes:
Mylar reflects radar. This could cause confusion for air traffic controllers and potentially could cause a catastrophjic accident. Because this is forseeable and because the guy released the balloons on purpose: it is an act of terrorism.

Send the farker to Gitmo!
2013-02-23 09:21:02 PM  
1 votes:
Good. It's about time people start paying for this kind of irresponsibility.

Rarely am I this serious.
2013-02-23 09:20:05 PM  
1 votes:

quatchi: 100 dollar fine. Max.


Per balloon. Check out that video I posted if you hadn't already.
2013-02-23 09:03:35 PM  
1 votes:
Felony, though? Unless he'd been warned previous or it's posted, that's a bit much.
 
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