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(Sun Sentinel)   Man charged with felonious "polluting to harm humans, animals, plants." His crime? Releasing a dozen helium-filled balloons   (sun-sentinel.com) divider line 171
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2013-02-23 10:08:18 PM  

Asphyxium: You people who approve of this shiat deserve to rot in prison.  A felony for releasing helium balloons?

I agree that people shouldn't do it but making it a criminal matter is a miscarriage of justice.

Once again: to those who approve, GO fark YOURSELVES.  fark   Y O U ! ! ! !

Rarely am I this serious.


I don't think it should be a felony but it should definitely should be illegal.
 
2013-02-23 10:09:11 PM  
Anthony Brasfield saw romance when he released a dozen heart-shaped balloons into the sky over Dania Beach with his sweetie.

See that, biatch? That's why I'm never trying to act romantic. DO YOU WANT ME TO SEE IN JAIL???
 
2013-02-23 10:13:41 PM  
pla: Dear Mr. Darwin: We have become too weak to live. Please end this experiment quickly and mercifully. Sincerely, Humanity.

Human babies remain weak and dependent on their parents longer than any other animal. A large part of our evolution has been devoted to protecting our babies from threats because they can't defend themselves, and that includes modern threats.

If you really want to invoke Darwin: Your children will die because you don't want to protect them, and your flawed genes will never continue.
 
2013-02-23 10:19:38 PM  

chimp_ninja: shanrick: For those who don't know: you just don't do that in Florida. It kills lots of animals, especially sea life such as turtles. which we like.

In general, we should probably cut down on the amount of helium we throw away via party balloons and such.  It's a valuable material with some unique properties, and we can't make more of it, short of nuclear reactions.  There's a good bit of it around, but our reserves are shrinking.


This.

I mean, we could mine the moon and gas giants if we had the technology to do it, but we don't currently.

But here's a cool video on how to waste helium if you absolutely must.

/Searching for "superfluid helium" will return many cool (no pun intended) clips.
 
2013-02-23 10:20:11 PM  
First, he was about 87 balloons short for this to not be a felony.

Second, helium balloons need to be outlawed, period.  Helium is far too valuable to the scientific and medical communities to be wasted in balloons.
 
2013-02-23 10:22:21 PM  
Much worse than fracking, Kill him!

/Also the people around him bought the ticket and knew what they where getting in to they should pay!
 
2013-02-23 10:28:17 PM  

ZAZ: a more general law (no annoying mother nature)


Bee Pee
 
2013-02-23 10:31:09 PM  

pion: First, he was about 87 balloons short for this to not be a felony.

Second, helium balloons need to be outlawed, period.  Helium is far too valuable to the scientific and medical communities to be wasted in balloons.


According to wikipedia "Helium is the second lightest element and is the second most abundant element in the observable universe, being present at about 24% of the total elemental mass, which is more than 12 times the mass of all the heavier elements combined."

So instead of making stupid ass new laws, if it's so important than find a new way to extract or isolate it. Jesus this is exactly what is wrong with this country. Instead of fixing a problem you want to pass a law against balloons. We are turning into a nation of pussies.
 
2013-02-23 10:32:23 PM  

shanrick: Mr. Fuzzypaws: Get em, boys!

/ I'm totally serious, that shiat kills a lot of animals

For those who don't know: you just don't do that in Florida. It kills lots of animals, especially sea life such as turtles. which we like.


Unless it's a political convention. Then you release hundreds of thousdans of balloons, of which NONE could possibly ever get out into the environment.

http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/08/the-2012-republican-natio na l-convention/100362/

cdn.theatlantic.com

Either way, no black men were involved with the above example, so there's no problem.
 
2013-02-23 10:33:36 PM  

zvoidx: Where is the responsibility of a citizen to have knowledge of this and all laws?

Is that also a law?


It is, and has always been, YOUR responsibility to know the law. If you don't know what laws may relate to - for instance - releasing helium-filled balloons, then you shouldn't do it without first ascertaining if it is legal. Same goes with jaywalking, stopping at stop signs, graffitti and any other unlawful act. Your responsibility to know and obey the law.

/just sayin'
//don't think he should get jail time, particularly for a first offense.
///do think that releasing helium-filled balloons should be illegal - kills lots of turtles. :-(
 
2013-02-23 10:37:06 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: zvoidx: Where is the responsibility of a citizen to have knowledge of this and all laws?

Is that also a law?

There is something about ignorance of the law not making someone exempt from it.

I do think prison would be a bit much, but on the other hand if it was just a small fine or warning no one would ever stop doing it, and it would take people longer to hear about. Somewhere in the middle would be ideal. People seriously need to stop this kind of crap immediately.


Probably made more sense back when the laws did...and there wasn't trillions of them.

I remember a history story of a place that had a rule. The main law guy had to read all of the laws out loud in public starting on certain day every year. I'd like to see that law make a comeback.
 
2013-02-23 10:37:25 PM  

Nightie don't call me Wig: California regulates the sale of mylar balloons, and for good damned reason.  We lost power twice in the last year because of them.  They hit a transformer and BOOM!


Funny, just yesterday I was reading about this on a flyer that came with my electric bill. Apparently vendors are legally required to have some sort of weight tied to the balloon.

I'd think, though that they might do better to regulate the material used for selling balloons - and prevent the possibility of such an accident.
 
2013-02-23 10:37:25 PM  

RealFarknMcCoy2: ///do think that releasing helium-filled balloons should be illegal - kills lots of turtles. :-(


If we really cared we should take the necessary steps to educate the turtles.
 
2013-02-23 10:38:29 PM  
Man, you don't fark around with mylar balloons for a lot of reasons, but this is just dumb.  Educate people, tell them not to do it again.  Why is that so hard these days?
 
2013-02-23 10:38:34 PM  
His only crime was loving her too much.
Case dismissed.
 
2013-02-23 10:39:19 PM  
Oops. A whole bunch of science teachers and their kids are waiting for a 3 am knock on their door, followed by a battering ram breaking down the door.
Swat's gonna apprehend those balloon terrorists. Sleep well tonight, unless you've ever "accidentally" a mylar balloon.
 
2013-02-23 10:41:22 PM  

Do the needful: pion: First, he was about 87 balloons short for this to not be a felony.

Second, helium balloons need to be outlawed, period.  Helium is far too valuable to the scientific and medical communities to be wasted in balloons.

According to wikipedia "Helium is the second lightest element and is the second most abundant element in the observable universe, being present at about 24% of the total elemental mass, which is more than 12 times the mass of all the heavier elements combined."

So instead of making stupid ass new laws, if it's so important than find a new way to extract or isolate it. Jesus this is exactly what is wrong with this country. Instead of fixing a problem you want to pass a law against balloons. We are turning into a nation of pussies.


So, how do we fix the whole "mylar balloons shorting out power" and "wild animals dying from ingesting balloons" problems, Einstein?? Balloons aren't farking necessities - find another way to amuse yourself.
 
2013-02-23 10:41:33 PM  
My 5 year old could be in a lot of trouble.....oh wait we are white, she'll be fine
 
2013-02-23 10:43:32 PM  

octopied: If he'd dumped trash out of his car onto the road/pavement, I'd say chase him down and kick his butt. But this should have been a warning, not an arrest.


Well sure, he only scattered trash to the wind.  Not dump it out of his car.  Clearly, trash out of the car is more heinous of an offense.
 
2013-02-23 10:44:56 PM  

jmomo: shanrick: Mr. Fuzzypaws: Get em, boys!

/ I'm totally serious, that shiat kills a lot of animals

For those who don't know: you just don't do that in Florida. It kills lots of animals, especially sea life such as turtles. which we like.

Unless it's a political convention. Then you release hundreds of thousdans of balloons, of which NONE could possibly ever get out into the environment.

http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/08/the-2012-republican-natio na l-convention/100362/

[cdn.theatlantic.com image 850x573]

Either way, no black men were involved with the above example, so there's no problem.


You *do* realise that was indoors, right? And those balloons would have been cleaned up completely, I assure you (sheesh! You've got me defending the farking RNC!!! Now I hate myself!)
 
2013-02-23 10:45:35 PM  
lh5.googleusercontent.com Biatch set me up!
 
2013-02-23 10:46:08 PM  

Do the needful: pion: First, he was about 87 balloons short for this to not be a felony.

Second, helium balloons need to be outlawed, period.  Helium is far too valuable to the scientific and medical communities to be wasted in balloons.

According to wikipedia "Helium is the second lightest element and is the second most abundant element in the observable universe, being present at about 24% of the total elemental mass, which is more than 12 times the mass of all the heavier elements combined."

So instead of making stupid ass new laws, if it's so important than find a new way to extract or isolate it. Jesus this is exactly what is wrong with this country. Instead of fixing a problem you want to pass a law against balloons. We are turning into a nation of pussies.


No, as you've so eloquently proven, we're turning into a nation of morons.  You want to know where most of that helium is in the universe? Inside of stars.  So I volunteer you to be the first to try to get it out.  Throwing you into the sun should increase the world's IQ by a point or two.

Why don't you educate yourself about the subject before you waste my time again?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/a-ballooning-problem-the-g re at-helium-shortage-8439108.html

For those of you who aren't idiots, I'm still hopeful that we'll sort out fusion sometime in the next 25-50 years, which will make helium abundant as hell again.
 
2013-02-23 10:46:59 PM  

quatchi: Lenny_da_Hog: It's also conductive and can cause damage to power grids.

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 400x535]

Ya don't say.


Perfection, +1.
 
2013-02-23 10:48:29 PM  

iron de havilland: But here's a cool video on how to waste helium if you absolutely must.


That was a very cool (heh) old video.  Now I'll be googling superfluid helium for a while...

By the way, we can't run out of Helium, all you Helium-scarecists!  We can just make more whenever we want with electricity and either mercury and Novocaine (which is why you talk funny at the dentist), or bleach and ammonia.  I can't remember the exact formula.  I remember all this because mom told me this after we had the Dinosaur husbandry chapter, but before the fetus chapter.  I was home-schooled.

Sorry, had a brief politics tab freakout there.
 
2013-02-23 10:52:34 PM  

ByOwlLight: Man, you don't fark around with mylar balloons for a lot of reasons, but this is just dumb.  Educate people, tell them not to do it again.  Why is that so hard these days?


Because we don't live in an age of three tv stations, two newspapers, and a half dozen radio stations in each market anymore? Getting out a message is easy these days. Getting that message out universally is much more difficult.
 
2013-02-23 10:54:48 PM  

iron de havilland: /Searching for "superfluid helium" will return many cool (no pun intended) clips.


The difference between you and I is that I would have definitely intended the pun.
 
2013-02-23 10:55:25 PM  
And for some strange reason our cops & politicians wonder why everyone considers them to be blathering idiots....
 
2013-02-23 10:56:01 PM  

pion: For those of you who aren't idiots, I'm still hopeful that we'll sort out fusion sometime in the next 25-50 years, which will make helium abundant as hell again.


Yeah, and it'll be cold fusion, making Andrea Rossi the richest man on earth.
 
2013-02-23 10:56:36 PM  

ZAZ: In the redlit thread somebody quoted a specific law on releasing lighter than air balloons, with a small fine as penalty. Normally a specific law (no releasing balloons) overrules a more general law (no annoying mother nature). So he should get a $100 fine. But you never know in Florida.


...are there heavier than air balloons?
 
2013-02-23 10:56:54 PM  
i.imgur.com

RIP Mylar
 
2013-02-23 10:59:13 PM  

Gyrfalcon: ...are there heavier than air balloons?


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-23 10:59:35 PM  

Gyrfalcon: ZAZ: In the redlit thread somebody quoted a specific law on releasing lighter than air balloons, with a small fine as penalty. Normally a specific law (no releasing balloons) overrules a more general law (no annoying mother nature). So he should get a $100 fine. But you never know in Florida.

...are there heavier than air balloons?


Sure, you just have to fill them with something heavier. water, for instance.
 
2013-02-23 10:59:38 PM  

destrip: pion: For those of you who aren't idiots, I'm still hopeful that we'll sort out fusion sometime in the next 25-50 years, which will make helium abundant as hell again.

Yeah, and it'll be cold fusion, making Andrea Rossi the richest man on earth.


Oh, it won't be cold fusion (it produces so much energy that even if it starts cold, it won't stay cold for long), but whoever can make it work will indeed be the richest person on earth.
 
2013-02-23 11:00:20 PM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: quatchi: Lenny_da_Hog: It's also conductive and can cause damage to power grids.

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 400x535]

Ya don't say.

Perfection, +1.


*doffs toque in thisisyourbrainonFark's general direction*
 
2013-02-23 11:01:10 PM  

Aquapope: iron de havilland: But here's a cool video on how to waste helium if you absolutely must.

That was a very cool (heh) old video.  Now I'll be googling superfluid helium for a while...

By the way, we can't run out of Helium, all you Helium-scarecists!  We can just make more whenever we want with electricity and either mercury and Novocaine (which is why you talk funny at the dentist), or bleach and ammonia.  I can't remember the exact formula.  I remember all this because mom told me this after we had the Dinosaur husbandry chapter, but before the fetus chapter.  I was home-schooled.

Sorry, had a brief politics tab freakout there.


My name is Lord Iron De Havilland and I approve of this post.
 
2013-02-23 11:02:21 PM  

quatchi: Gyrfalcon: ...are there heavier than air balloons?

[24.media.tumblr.com image 850x850]


Well, yeah...
 
2013-02-23 11:02:51 PM  
When balloon releasing is outlawed, only outlaws will have no balloons.
 
2013-02-23 11:04:46 PM  
The bigger irritation here is that we're wantonly wasting a very finite resource for balloons.
 
2013-02-23 11:05:13 PM  

Gyrfalcon: ...are there heavier than air balloons?


you ever blow up a balloon?  What happened when you let it go.  It fell to the ground.  That's heavier-than-air;  The air inside, plus the balloon, weigh more than the air it displaces.
 
2013-02-23 11:08:09 PM  
This thread has seriously diverged from sea turtles.

I can understand how someone from Oklahoma can't understand the importance of sea turtles.

But I can't understand how someone from Oklahoma can read and write.
 
2013-02-23 11:09:01 PM  

EngineerAU: ByOwlLight: Man, you don't fark around with mylar balloons for a lot of reasons, but this is just dumb.  Educate people, tell them not to do it again.  Why is that so hard these days?

Because we don't live in an age of three tv stations, two newspapers, and a half dozen radio stations in each market anymore? Getting out a message is easy these days. Getting that message out universally is much more difficult.


My point was that the cop simply could have explained why it was bad to do, and told them to not do it again.  Easy.
 
2013-02-23 11:14:00 PM  
I wonder what they would say to the 150lb tank of co2 that I have that I spray randomly into my garden 15min of every hour?
 
2013-02-23 11:14:56 PM  

James F. Campbell: The bigger irritation here is that we're wantonly wasting a very finite resource for balloons.


What else is it good for besides making my voice all squeaky?
 
2013-02-23 11:17:15 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: The Snow Dog: Mylar reflects radar. This could cause confusion for air traffic controllers and potentially could cause a catastrophjic accident. Because this is forseeable and because the guy released the balloons on purpose: it is an act of terrorism.

Send the farker to Gitmo!

It's also conductive and can cause damage to power grids.


Mylar is plastic and non conductive YOU DOLT.
 
2013-02-23 11:20:05 PM  
kazasou.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-23 11:21:41 PM  

quatchi: thisisyourbrainonFark: quatchi: Lenny_da_Hog: It's also conductive and can cause damage to power grids.

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 400x535]

Ya don't say.

Perfection, +1.

*doffs toque in thisisyourbrainonFark's general direction*


I think this thread should have nods to great balloons.

cdn1.elitedaily.com
 
2013-02-23 11:24:42 PM  

President Merkin Muffley: Lenny_da_Hog: The Snow Dog: Mylar reflects radar. This could cause confusion for air traffic controllers and potentially could cause a catastrophjic accident. Because this is forseeable and because the guy released the balloons on purpose: it is an act of terrorism.

Send the farker to Gitmo!

It's also conductive and can cause damage to power grids.

Mylar is plastic and non conductive YOU DOLT.


You march right down to the local electric utility office and tell them your new finding.
 
2013-02-23 11:28:03 PM  

President Merkin Muffley: Lenny_da_Hog: The Snow Dog: Mylar reflects radar. This could cause confusion for air traffic controllers and potentially could cause a catastrophjic accident. Because this is forseeable and because the guy released the balloons on purpose: it is an act of terrorism.

Send the farker to Gitmo!

It's also conductive and can cause damage to power grids.

Mylar is plastic and non conductive YOU DOLT.


Wow that is some really out of proportion screaming and name calling there.  Either way, you are wrong.  Mylar balloons conduct.  Notice how shiny they are.
 
2013-02-23 11:28:06 PM  
"Florida" is a state of mind.

/But without the mind
 
2013-02-23 11:28:31 PM  

Nightie don't call me Wig: California regulates the sale of mylar balloons, and for good damned reason.  We lost power twice in the last year because of them.  They hit a transformer and BOOM!


Oregon simply resorted to a strongly worded press release before Valentines Day.
 
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