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2013-02-24 12:54:38 PM  

Animatronik: If a D proposes spending cuts, I am all for it. IF a D proposes no spending cuts, I think voters need to be made aware of what the consequences will be. Using Republicans and Bush and whatever else as an argument for no cuts, during the biggest spending administration in U.S. history, isn't going to work. As long as Democrats oppose real spending cuts a substantial group of people will work to get them out of office.


As the republicans seem to repeat over and over again, we haven't passed a new budget in 3 years so the budget is locked to absolute dollars.  Meanwhile the population expands and inflation continues.  By this fact alone, the Democrats are responsible for a 7% real reduction in government spending.  You throw the sequester, that is apparently the Democrat's fault, we end up with something in the range of 10% reduction in real dollars.

Why, if you're looking for spending cuts, are you pissing and moaning about the first government to give us real spending cuts in generations?
 
2013-02-24 01:09:07 PM  

fusillade762: make me some tea: Tripp Johnston Private Eye: fusillade762: Bontesla: make me some tea: If this causes American voters actual pain, the GOP will pay for it dearly in the mid-terms.

The majority of voters are ignorant.

Ayup.

This is mind boggling stupidity, but then again I can't count the number of times I've had to explain to people the government doesn't have a budget like a household, so it shouldn't be too surprising. Depressing depressing times these are.

I've lost count with the number of times (including with my own mother just yesterday) that ObamaCare is not itself an insurance plan. Too many people are egregiously under or misinformed about a lot of things.

I'm constantly astounded and dismayed by the number of Americans who don't understand basic civics concepts:

The difference between deficit and debt
What's actually contained in the constitution and bill of rights
What the three branches of government are

Yet you have a significant number who believe in

UFOs
Ghosts
Angels
Leprechauns
Witches
The sun revolves around the Earth

And they still get to vote.


I bet you don't know the three branches of the US government, but we still let you vote.
 
2013-02-24 01:17:12 PM  

Generation_D: This rush to cut spending really looks like baby boomer derp to me. 40 years of gimme gimme and now that they're all hitting retirement, its holy sh*t lets cut everything that everyone else depends on.


This this thisity this.

Most coddled generation in history.
 
2013-02-24 02:21:52 PM  

Zeno-25: Obama should just start treating the GOP majority in the House for what it is, illegitimate. Dem candidates for the House got half a million more votes around the country than the GOP, and yet the GOP has a majority by several dozen seats.


RIP: Dem talking point about how they vote for the person and not the party. We barely knew ye. 1994-2012
 
2013-02-24 02:25:58 PM  

Snotnose: I fail to see how the GOP is at fault.  Remember, the first sequester was a result of Obama not being willing to cut spending.  So in December they raised taxes and kicked the can down the road.  Now, 6 weeks after getting his tax increase he wants another tax increase to make it "balanced".

Keep in mind they're talking 2% of the federal budget.  This being the guv'mint, they're working hard to figure out how to make that 2% hurt as much as possible.  Got a hangnail?  Arms gotta come off at the elbow, sorry bout that.

This is one issue in which I'm 100% on the GOP's side.  Quit spending money you don't have.  Quit sending money to the Alaskan Salmon Industry when you're supposed to be helping victims of hurricane Sandy.


Are you blind or just stupid? Obama can't force anyone to come to the table in a bipartisan manner and work this out. When you have a party of racist redneck dumbshiats who are only interested in doing the opposite of everything Obama says, what are you supposed to do?

I'd like to see Obama start issuing a bunch of executive orders. Fark the Republicans.
 
2013-02-24 02:44:50 PM  

Snotnose: I fail to see how the GOP is at fault.  Remember, the first sequester was a result of Obama not being willing to cut spending.  So in December they raised taxes and kicked the can down the road.  Now, 6 weeks after getting his tax increase he wants another tax increase to make it "balanced".

Keep in mind they're talking 2% of the federal budget.  This being the guv'mint, they're working hard to figure out how to make that 2% hurt as much as possible.  Got a hangnail?  Arms gotta come off at the elbow, sorry bout that.

This is one issue in which I'm 100% on the GOP's side.  Quit spending money you don't have.  Quit sending money to the Alaskan Salmon Industry when you're supposed to be helping victims of hurricane Sandy.


You have a very skewed perception of reality.
 
2013-02-24 04:03:38 PM  

King Something: make me some tea: SoupGuru: Here's something that's important to keep in mind with these situations: it's not the Republicans that are the real problem. The real problem is that half of this country apparently wants this.

40% said they would like to let the sequester happen, and 11% say they don't know, which makes 51% of Americans complete idiots.

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I would imagine that that same 51% would not lay the blame exclusively on the Republicans in Congress (though 11% would give them at least part of the blame, so they have that going for them, which is nice; still smarter than the 31% who are teabaggers and 8% who have been living under a rock for the past 5 years)


I would imagine that most of those 51% would give the republicans credit for the sequester which will cut all that spending.  These same people will blame Obama for any economic impact felt from the sequestor.
 
2013-02-24 04:33:26 PM  

Zeno-25: Animatronik: If a D proposes spending cuts, I am all for it. IF a D proposes no spending cuts, I think voters need to be made aware of what the consequences will be. Using Republicans and Bush and whatever else as an argument for no cuts, during the biggest spending administration in U.S. history, isn't going to work. As long as Democrats oppose real spending cuts a substantial group of people will work to get them out of office.

Reality below, folks, typical right-wing delusion above.


As has been pointed out many times, when you set your baseline after increasing spending by 900 billion, the reality is that you are pushing a lie.

/sure you don't have to INCREASE spending by much when you are already spending well ove 3 trillion while taking in just ove 2 trillion in revenue.

You're just playing the numbers to pretend Democrats are some sort of wise and parsimonius because they ONLY borrowed a trillion every year, more than any other party in power in history, without increasing it even more.

Party's over for the lying douchebags. Yes, you hit the spending limit, yes you will make cuts.
 
2013-02-24 05:31:16 PM  

arentol: I bet you don't know the three branches of the US government, but we still let you vote.


Why would I make fun of people for not knowing something I also don't know?
 
2013-02-24 06:11:31 PM  

arentol: I bet you don't know the three four branches of the US government, but we still let you vote.


You forgot the "Lobbyist" branch.
 
2013-02-24 07:38:39 PM  

Animatronik: Zeno-25: Animatronik: If a D proposes spending cuts, I am all for it. IF a D proposes no spending cuts, I think voters need to be made aware of what the consequences will be. Using Republicans and Bush and whatever else as an argument for no cuts, during the biggest spending administration in U.S. history, isn't going to work. As long as Democrats oppose real spending cuts a substantial group of people will work to get them out of office.

Reality below, folks, typical right-wing delusion above.

As has been pointed out many times, when you set your baseline after increasing spending by 900 billion, the reality is that you are pushing a lie.

/sure you don't have to INCREASE spending by much when you are already spending well ove 3 trillion while taking in just ove 2 trillion in revenue.

You're just playing the numbers to pretend Democrats are some sort of wise and parsimonius because they ONLY borrowed a trillion every year, more than any other party in power in history, without increasing it even more.

Party's over for the lying douchebags. Yes, you hit the spending limit, yes you will make cuts.


You're dumb, and should feel bad about yourself.

Hint: it's the legislatures job to pass a budget. Obama can talk shiat all he wants, because its the republican legislature that's failing.

Stop being misogynist, racist, militarist, rape loving, gay hating, civilian slaughtering douche nozzles, and maybe you can be worth talking to.

Until then I will spend my time denigrating you for being a lying, evil, piece if flotsam, who should probably be probed and raped just for your support of it.
 
2013-02-24 07:40:39 PM  

Snotnose: I fail to see how the GOP is at fault.  Remember, the first sequester was a result of Obama not being willing to cut spending.


And that's where I stopped reading your post.  Don't throw that bullshiat around here; that may work with Fox News viewers, but most of us here were paying attention.
 
2013-02-25 03:58:01 AM  

tony41454: Obama: the boy would cried wolf.


Projection and lies are all you morans have left.

GL w/ that.

/Snark.
 
2013-02-25 04:00:55 AM  

Mrbogey: Zeno-25: Obama should just start treating the GOP majority in the House for what it is, illegitimate. Dem candidates for the House got half a million more votes around the country than the GOP, and yet the GOP has a majority by several dozen seats.

RIP: Dem talking point about how they vote for the person and not the party. We barely knew ye. 1994-2012


Still refusing to own up to the fact that the GOP have gerrymandered their way to an illegitimate victory in the House?

Party of No personal responsibility at all strikes again.

My surprised face...
 
2013-02-25 09:32:22 AM  

make me some tea: If this causes American voters actual pain, the GOP will pay for it dearly in the mid-terms.


I think they will pay for it well in the 2016 cycle to.

I can't believe the GOP can't see it. The majority of people know the GOP is why this hasn't been addressed. They have this fantasy that they will pin it on the President (who can't run again anyway).

thatbeadgirl.com
They appear to be ingesting mass quantities of illegal pharmaceuticals.

 
2013-02-25 10:34:22 AM  

quatchi: Mrbogey: Zeno-25: Obama should just start treating the GOP majority in the House for what it is, illegitimate. Dem candidates for the House got half a million more votes around the country than the GOP, and yet the GOP has a majority by several dozen seats.

RIP: Dem talking point about how they vote for the person and not the party. We barely knew ye. 1994-2012

Still refusing to own up to the fact that the GOP have gerrymandered their way to an illegitimate victory in the House?

Party of No personal responsibility at all strikes again.

My surprised face...


What responsibility? Democrats and Republicans have redrawn lines to ensure safer seats. Democrats making a deal that helps them secure seats and then demanding a new deal when the deal doesn't give them an absolute clear benefit.

This is my surprised face.
 
2013-02-25 03:04:06 PM  

Bontesla: make me some tea: If this causes American voters actual pain, the GOP will pay for it dearly in the mid-terms.

The majority of voters are ignorant.


True true,  Dem blame Reps, Reps blame Dems, Kind of like all those shiathole countries that blame Israel for all their problems.  Then again, we are incapable of holding our elected "leaders" accountable for continued failure.
 
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