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2013-02-23 11:55:19 AM
If this causes American voters actual pain, the GOP will pay for it dearly in the mid-terms.
 
2013-02-23 12:03:57 PM
Once people start having to wait an extra 90 minutes at the airport shiat is gonna go south for the GOP real quick.
 
2013-02-23 12:06:49 PM

make me some tea: If this causes American voters actual pain, the GOP will pay for it dearly in the mid-terms.


So that means things will be fine for the GOP.

With the sequester, the government will spend more this year than last year.  No one will notice unless the press decides to hype this in 6 months from now.
 
2013-02-23 12:10:10 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: So that means things will be fine for the GOP.

With the sequester, the government will spend more this year than last year.  No one will notice unless the press decides to hype this in 6 months from now.


In Bizarro World?
 
2013-02-23 12:12:46 PM
Added Martin O'Malley, the governor of Maryland: "I think he's long-term optimistic. Short-term, he believes Republicans seem hell-bent on slowing job recovery through sequestration, which in some perverse way they see as a win."

The GOP sees it as a win because they are about to make something happen that Obama does not want to happen.

What they don't seem to realize is that most of America (and most of the rest of the world) sees what the GOP is doing, knows why they're doing it and will put 100% of the blame on the GOP for anything and everything bad that happens as a result of their failure to even try to make a deal.
 
2013-02-23 12:14:26 PM

make me some tea: If this causes American voters actual pain, the GOP will pay for it dearly in the mid-terms.


The majority of voters are ignorant.
 
2013-02-23 12:14:47 PM

King Something: Added Martin O'Malley, the governor of Maryland: "I think he's long-term optimistic. Short-term, he believes Republicans seem hell-bent on slowing job recovery through sequestration, which in some perverse way they see as a win."

The GOP sees it as a win because they are about to make something happen that Obama does not want to happen.

What they don't seem to realize is that most of America (and most of the rest of the world) sees what the GOP is doing, knows why they're doing it and will put 100% of the blame on the GOP for anything and everything bad that happens as a result of their failure to even try to make a deal.


ayyup
 
2013-02-23 12:15:04 PM

King Something: Added Martin O'Malley, the governor of Maryland: "I think he's long-term optimistic. Short-term, he believes Republicans seem hell-bent on slowing job recovery through sequestration, which in some perverse way they see as a win."

The GOP sees it as a win because they are about to make something happen that Obama does not want to happen.

What they don't seem to realize is that most of America (and most of the rest of the world) sees what the GOP is doing, knows why they're doing it and will put 100% of the blame on the GOP for anything and everything bad that happens as a result of their failure to even try to make a deal.


just liked they punished them for not getting in line with 0bamacare during the 2010 midterm election.
 
2013-02-23 12:18:08 PM

make me some tea: If this causes American voters actual pain, the GOP will pay for it dearly in the mid-terms.


No they won't. Midterms are too far away.
 
2013-02-23 12:18:13 PM

Bontesla: make me some tea: If this causes American voters actual pain, the GOP will pay for it dearly in the mid-terms.

The majority of voters are ignorant.


And those who aren't have a very short attention span.
 
2013-02-23 12:19:48 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Bontesla: make me some tea: If this causes American voters actual pain, the GOP will pay for it dearly in the mid-terms.

The majority of voters are ignorant.

And those who aren't have a very short attention span.


Exactly.

And those who are paying attention and are looking for change may be limited by gerrymandering.
 
2013-02-23 12:23:21 PM
About time this dumbass figured this out.
 
2013-02-23 12:26:04 PM

GAT_00: About time this dumbass figured this out.


I really feel like we gave up our advantage during the fiscal cliff ransom in January.
 
2013-02-23 12:33:59 PM
You can lead a horse to water, but the Teabaggers are still stupid farkheads.
 
2013-02-23 12:36:04 PM
 

tenpoundsofcheese: No one will notice unless the press decides to hype this in 6 months from now.


They've postponed an aircraft carrier strike group's deployment.  Civilian DOD employees, of which there are about 800,000, will face furloughs one day a week, every week.  Someone will notice.
 
2013-02-23 12:36:32 PM
I fail to see how the GOP is at fault.  Remember, the first sequester was a result of Obama not being willing to cut spending.  So in December they raised taxes and kicked the can down the road.  Now, 6 weeks after getting his tax increase he wants another tax increase to make it "balanced".

Keep in mind they're talking 2% of the federal budget.  This being the guv'mint, they're working hard to figure out how to make that 2% hurt as much as possible.  Got a hangnail?  Arms gotta come off at the elbow, sorry bout that.

This is one issue in which I'm 100% on the GOP's side.  Quit spending money you don't have.  Quit sending money to the Alaskan Salmon Industry when you're supposed to be helping victims of hurricane Sandy.
 
2013-02-23 12:48:51 PM

Bontesla: The My Little Pony Killer: Bontesla: make me some tea: If this causes American voters actual pain, the GOP will pay for it dearly in the mid-terms.

The majority of voters are ignorant.

And those who aren't have a very short attention span.

Exactly.

And those who are paying attention and are looking for change may be limited by gerrymandering.


It's all going to come down to who controls the message better. Right now Democrats have the polls backing them. I do understand that can and does change.
 
2013-02-23 12:53:33 PM

dudemanbro: Once people start having to wait an extra 90 minutes at the airport shiat is gonna go south for the GOP real quick.


I'm sure they'll spin it to at least partially put the blame on Obama and with their gerrymandered  districts they would really have fark the chicken to get the right people riled.
 
2013-02-23 12:56:26 PM

make me some tea: If this causes American voters actual pain, the GOP will pay for it dearly in the mid-terms.


The people who still support the GOP are going to continue to do so.  They blame Obama for everything.  Boehner says he got 98% of what he wanted, and the Republicans blame the remaining 2% for all of the world's problems.

For three decades, taxes have been far too low.  We need to get back to a reasonable tax structure and start paying our bills with actual income rather than with borrowed money.  That may hurt in the short term, but it's necessary.  If the Republicans don't understand that, it is because they are idiots.  There is no other reasonable explanation for their behavior.
 
2013-02-23 01:14:53 PM
Welcome to post-2012 election America, folks.

There is nothing anyone can do about it.

Partisanship reigns supreme.

/Still waiting for our second civil war to begin so we can just get the fark over it already
 
2013-02-23 01:16:22 PM

cman: Welcome to post-2012 election America, folks.

There is nothing anyone can do about it.

Partisanship reigns supreme.

/Still waiting for our second civil war to begin so we can just get the fark over it already


A great man once said "Its a psychological condition when there is no great external threat that threatens to destroy society.Partisanship aint going away. It is human nature to be competitive. If you look at everything, you will realize that competition overrides everything in our life. There is nothing in human society that does not have a competitive background attached to it. "
 
2013-02-23 01:19:52 PM

make me some tea: Bontesla: The My Little Pony Killer: Bontesla: make me some tea: If this causes American voters actual pain, the GOP will pay for it dearly in the mid-terms.

The majority of voters are ignorant.

And those who aren't have a very short attention span.

Exactly.

And those who are paying attention and are looking for change may be limited by gerrymandering.

It's all going to come down to who controls the message better. Right now Democrats have the polls backing them. I do understand that can and does change.


Exactly!!
 
2013-02-23 01:50:10 PM

Bontesla: make me some tea: If this causes American voters actual pain, the GOP will pay for it dearly in the mid-terms.

The majority of voters are ignorant.


If that were the case, we would've elected Mitt Romney last year.
 
2013-02-23 02:16:48 PM

King Something: The GOP sees it as a win because they are about to make something happen that Obama does not want to happen.

What they don't seem to realize is that most of America (and most of the rest of the world) sees what the GOP is doing, knows why they're doing it and will put 100% of the blame on the GOP for anything and everything bad that happens as a result of their failure to even try to make a deal.


meh
the net-net result is that GOP voters will continue to vote GOP and the DEM voters will continue to vote DEM. The "surprise" for the GOP will be if the DEM voters turn out for the mid-term elections. Because when that happens ... LOLOLOL

Imagine DEMS turning out and taking back state houses? WHOOPS, now the DEMS can redistrict their state?? ROFL Imagine the uproar by the gops
 
2013-02-23 02:19:05 PM

Snotnose: Keep in mind they're talking 2% of the federal budget.  This being the guv'mint, they're working hard to figure out how to make that 2% hurt as much as possible.  Got a hangnail?  Arms gotta come off at the elbow, sorry bout that


THIS
look at the over reaction at the TSA and homeland security.
rather than cut some pork project, they are going to cut back on airport security??
fire them all
 
2013-02-23 02:35:36 PM
GOPers are truly the enemy of this nation and they ought to be rounded up and slaughtered wholesale for the greater good.
 
2013-02-23 02:38:09 PM

namatad: King Something: The GOP sees it as a win because they are about to make something happen that Obama does not want to happen.

What they don't seem to realize is that most of America (and most of the rest of the world) sees what the GOP is doing, knows why they're doing it and will put 100% of the blame on the GOP for anything and everything bad that happens as a result of their failure to even try to make a deal.

meh
the net-net result is that GOP voters will continue to vote GOP and the DEM voters will continue to vote DEM. The "surprise" for the GOP will be if the DEM voters turn out for the mid-term elections. Because when that happens ... LOLOLOL

Imagine DEMS turning out and taking back state houses? WHOOPS, now the DEMS can redistrict their state?? ROFL Imagine the uproar by the gops


You can only do it after a cencus, because the population will change.
 
2013-02-23 02:50:42 PM

Darth_Lukecash: You can only do it after a cencus, because the population will change.


strangely enough, that is not true.
the number of districts wont change, but the bias can.
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/State-by-state_redistricting_p ro cedures

http://www.publicmapping.org/what-is-redistricting
How Often Can a State Redistrict?

In 2003, the nation was captivated by a group of Democratic Texas state legislators who fled the state to prevent Republicans from gerrymandering the state's congressional districts. At stake was Democratic-favored redistricting plan adopted by a court for the 2002 congressional elections, adopted after the state legislature failed to enact a redistricting plan. Eventually, Democrats relented and returned to Texas and Republicans were able to put their map in place. Democrats later challenged the legality of drawing districts mid-decade, without a new census prompting the necessity of drawing new districts.

The Supreme Court ruled inLULAC v  Perry that there is no federal prohibition on mid-decade redistricting.


the more you know
 
2013-02-23 02:54:16 PM

JerkyMeat: GOPers are truly the enemy of this nation and they ought to be rounded up and slaughtered wholesale for the greater good.


Now now that's a bit extreme. I'm sure many of them are capable of menial labor and can contribute to society in some small way. Of course they should never be allowed to vote or mingle with decent folk, though.
 
2013-02-23 03:00:05 PM

FloydA: For three decades, taxes have been far too low.


For four decades, spending has been far too high.  I started paying attention in the 70's, it was clear even then this day would come.

It's not a Pubs vs Dem issue either, both sides are addicted to spending.

I agree taxes need to go up.  But I want to see some real spending cuts first.  Congress is too adept at cutting a spending increase from 10% to 7%, then claiming they cut 3%.  No, you didn't.  You raised spending 7%.  Knock it the fark off.
 
2013-02-23 03:00:47 PM

JerkyMeat: GOPers are truly the enemy of this nation and they ought to be rounded up and slaughtered wholesale for the greater good.


Let the hate flow through you.
 
2013-02-23 03:12:51 PM

Snotnose: I fail to see how the GOP is at fault.  Remember, the first sequester was a result of Obama not being willing to cut spending.  So in December they raised taxes and kicked the can down the road.  Now, 6 weeks after getting his tax increase he wants another tax increase to make it "balanced".

Keep in mind they're talking 2% of the federal budget. This being the guv'mint, they're working hard to figure out how to make that 2% hurt as much as possible.  Got a hangnail?  Arms gotta come off at the elbow, sorry bout that.

This is one issue in which I'm 100% on the GOP's side.  Quit spending money you don't have.  Quit sending money to the Alaskan Salmon Industry when you're supposed to be helping victims of hurricane Sandy.


While that may be true, this talking point only underscores the general populace's ignorance with respect to the nature of federal appropriations and the ways our political leadership leverages this ignorance for their gain.

Most funding is locked in to specific programs and is not included in the sequester.  This is why, for example, the Navy postponed a CVN deployment; that is O&M (Operations and Maintenance) money, not SCN (Ship Construction, Navy) for example.

I could go much deeper on this, but I doubt that would matter really.
 
2013-02-23 03:18:34 PM

Snotnose: FloydA: For three decades, taxes have been far too low.

For four decades, spending has been far too high.  I started paying attention in the 70's, it was clear even then this day would come.

It's not a Pubs vs Dem issue either, both sides are addicted to spending.

I agree taxes need to go up.  But I want to see some real spending cuts first.  Congress is too adept at cutting a spending increase from 10% to 7%, then claiming they cut 3%.  No, you didn't.  You raised spending 7%.  Knock it the fark off.


There are things that have to be paid for.  Infrastructure, education, defense, and a hell of a lot more.  These things are necessary if we want to be a functioning society.  It's easy to say "spending is too high," but it's difficult to propose what should actually be cut.  Everyone wants to  cut "wasteful" spending, but what seems wasteful to one person is absolutely needed by another.

"Cut spending!" makes a good bumper sticker, but it is not a viable way to run a society.  If we want the benefits of civilization, we have to pay for them, and as long as population keeps growing, the costs are going to continue to increase.
 
2013-02-23 03:36:55 PM

King Something: Added Martin O'Malley, the governor of Maryland: "I think he's long-term optimistic. Short-term, he believes Republicans seem hell-bent on slowing job recovery through sequestration, which in some perverse way they see as a win."

The GOP sees it as a win because they are about to make something happen that Obama does not want to happen.

What they don't seem to realize is that most of America (and most of the rest of the world) sees what the GOP is doing, knows why they're doing it and will put 100% of the blame on the GOP for anything and everything bad that happens as a result of their failure to even try to make a deal.


Boner started preemptive blaming days ago. It's Obamaquestration now. It didn't get much traction, but that's the party line and they'll stick to it no matter what.
 
2013-02-23 03:39:54 PM
About damn time!

Release the Biden!
 
2013-02-23 03:41:31 PM
My suggestion still stands: the President should be seen supporting baseball, basketball, football, go to NASCAR events, and support animal shelters, apple pie and Mom and Pop stores, and watch as Congressional leaders and FOX News screech to denounce it all. It is simple obstructionism, at its heart. Show it for what it is.
 
2013-02-23 03:43:28 PM

FloydA: make me some tea: If this causes American voters actual pain, the GOP will pay for it dearly in the mid-terms.

The people who still support the GOP are going to continue to do so.  They blame Obama for everything.


This.
My father in law as an example.
They hate so much, their common sense is gone.
 
2013-02-23 03:56:26 PM

make me some tea: If this causes American voters actual pain, the GOP will pay for it dearly in the mid-terms.


Only if the GOP aren't able to blame their inability to do their jobs on Obama and the Dems which seems to be their game plan here.

1. Fark things up deliberately.
2. Blame their fark ups on Obama
3. Profit?

You simply can't reason with people who've made being unreasonable a way of life.

I'm still not sure how it's gonna play with the non brain-dead citizenry. I mean for fook's sakes these morans even filibustered a Republican nom (a historical first) purely out of spite.

How can anyone look at the GOP these days and not immediately see them as the biggest stumbling block to progress?

Oh right, RW media rules the day. I keep forgetting that.
 
2013-02-23 03:58:02 PM

namatad: Darth_Lukecash: You can only do it after a cencus, because the population will change.

strangely enough, that is not true.
the number of districts wont change, but the bias can.
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/State-by-state_redistricting_p ro cedures

http://www.publicmapping.org/what-is-redistricting
How Often Can a State Redistrict?

In 2003, the nation was captivated by a group of Democratic Texas state legislators who fled the state to prevent Republicans from gerrymandering the state's congressional districts. At stake was Democratic-favored redistricting plan adopted by a court for the 2002 congressional elections, adopted after the state legislature failed to enact a redistricting plan. Eventually, Democrats relented and returned to Texas and Republicans were able to put their map in place. Democrats later challenged the legality of drawing districts mid-decade, without a new census prompting the necessity of drawing new districts.

The Supreme Court ruled inLULAC v  Perry that there is no federal prohibition on mid-decade redistricting.


the more you know


You have informed me! Thanks!
 
2013-02-23 04:13:28 PM

Zombie DJ: FloydA: make me some tea: If this causes American voters actual pain, the GOP will pay for it dearly in the mid-terms.

The people who still support the GOP are going to continue to do so.  They blame Obama for everything.

This.
My father in law as an example.
They hate so much, their common sense is gone.


My mother and father are also examples. Speaking to them about politics is like trying to talk to fundies (their religion being staunch conservatism).
 
2013-02-23 04:28:16 PM

namatad: Snotnose: Keep in mind they're talking 2% of the federal budget.  This being the guv'mint, they're working hard to figure out how to make that 2% hurt as much as possible.  Got a hangnail?  Arms gotta come off at the elbow, sorry bout that

THIS
look at the over reaction at the TSA and homeland security.
rather than cut some pork project, they are going to cut back on airport security??
fire them all



They're also cutting back the FAA, so air traffic controllers will be furloughed. Which means after your 1+ hour wait in the security line, you'll get the privilege of having 1.5+ hour delays as the pilots wait for clearance to take off.

CBP is also getting furloughed, so you're probably looking at 4+ hour waits to clear customs.

Think flying sucks now? Just wait, it's going to get worse. Much worse.
 
2013-02-23 04:54:22 PM

quatchi: make me some tea: If this causes American voters actual pain, the GOP will pay for it dearly in the mid-terms.

Only if the GOP aren't able to blame their inability to do their jobs on Obama and the Dems which seems to be their game plan here.

1. Fark things up deliberately.
2. Blame their fark ups on Obama
3. Profit?

You simply can't reason with people who've made being unreasonable a way of life.

I'm still not sure how it's gonna play with the non brain-dead citizenry. I mean for fook's sakes these morans even filibustered a Republican nom (a historical first) purely out of spite.

How can anyone look at the GOP these days and not immediately see them as the biggest stumbling block to progress?

Oh right, RW media rules the day. I keep forgetting that.


static.prtst.net
 
2013-02-23 05:01:23 PM
This shiat from Obama is so typical. "Well, sorry guys! This is gonna hurt me as much as it hurts you!"

It's almost as if he's a trickle-down guy who can say the right things to placate liberals. But hey, that's crazy talk, right?

I'm so glad I voted for Stein. I'm well aware I threw away my vote but I'm glad I didn't cede my conscience to this kind of crap.
 
2013-02-23 05:01:38 PM
I see what the GOP is trying to do.  They're trying to train all of us to never, ever vote for a n-*BONG*-r again.  But I kind of like watching them lose their minds, and fark if I'm going to let them win this little bullshiat game of theirs.

So I say the 2016 Dem nominee should be a black, Satan-worshipping communist lesbian.  Just for the lulz.

Got any?
 
2013-02-23 05:02:56 PM

lordjupiter: I see what the GOP is trying to do.  They're trying to train all of us to never, ever vote for a n-*BONG*-r again.  But I kind of like watching them lose their minds, and fark if I'm going to let them win this little bullshiat game of theirs.

So I say the 2016 Dem nominee should be a black, Satan-worshipping communist lesbian.  Just for the lulz.

Got any?


A communist would actually be better than the establishment which accepts all this Friedmanite bullshiat regardless of political party.
 
2013-02-23 05:06:57 PM

namatad: THIS
look at the over reaction at the TSA and homeland security.
rather than cut some pork project, they are going to cut back on airport security??
fire them all



Which is what happens when one party refuses to compromise.  Republicans want the Democrats to give in to their demands without giving anything in return.  Since Republicans can't behave like responsible adults, and instead are acting like religious zealots, we will be treated to painful automatic cuts.
 
2013-02-23 05:07:18 PM

lordjupiter: They're trying to train all of us to never, ever vote for a n-*BONG*-r again.



Yes it is 100% about his race. There is no other explanation.
 
2013-02-23 05:07:41 PM
Nice work. That only took 4 years to figure out. I'll wonder what he'll figure out 4 years from now.
 
2013-02-23 05:08:22 PM

cman: lordjupiter: They're trying to train all of us to never, ever vote for a n-*BONG*-r again.


Yes it is 100% about his race. There is no other explanation.


Considering he's very well to the right and very much part of the establishment, I'd say yes, that explains it pretty well.
 
2013-02-23 05:08:23 PM
Congress sucks

Obama outlasted Palin and the Pope

I want nachos
 
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