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2013-02-23 10:10:02 AM  
If by "ramming", you mean "sat there and got hit":

Trooper Dawayne Maddux, 32, was parked in the bridge's inside lane near a construction zone with his vehicle's emergency lights on but was "moving to the outside lane" when his cruiser was struck by the motorcycle, the FHP said.

Williamson's Suzuki hit the back of the cruiser, and he and 24-year-old passenger Jenna Elizabeth Scott were thrown from the motorcycle, according to the FHP. Troopers are investigating.
 
2013-02-23 10:35:59 AM  
Now see, if the bike had modified pipes, the officer would have heard him coming and wouldn't have pulled out in front of the bike.
 
2013-02-23 10:38:36 AM  
I see the trollers are already on the job this morning
 
2013-02-23 11:21:09 AM  
He was doing 125 with a passenger?
 
2013-02-23 11:21:26 AM  
So:
Bikers speeding on bridge.
Cop begins pursuit but stops when it's clear that he can't overtake, and public safety is at issue.
Bikers ram into another cop car at end of bridge.  Darwin claims driver as prize.

Um...I'm not seeing any problem here.  It's not like FHP tried to PIT them at 125.
 
2013-02-23 11:23:35 AM  
I'm probably among the more stupid speed junkies on Fark, I like topping a buck on the bike, but damn dude with a passenger... that's just stupid.

Wonder if he was wearing a helmet...
 
2013-02-23 11:25:24 AM  
You'd think an attempt to ram the motorcycle would not involve sitting there and taking a hit from several hundred pounds moving at 125.
 
2013-02-23 11:29:49 AM  
Don't let the facts of the story get in your way, Subby.
 
2013-02-23 11:45:05 AM  

DownDaRiver: Now see, if the bike had modified pipes, the officer would have heard him coming and wouldn't have pulled out in front of the bike.


Ok. I'll just start with you.

Cops have radios. He knew he was coming.
 
2013-02-23 11:50:50 AM  
It's amazing that the passenger survived.
 
2013-02-23 11:52:04 AM  

unlikely: I'm probably among the more stupid speed junkies on Fark, I like topping a buck on the bike, but damn dude with a passenger... that's just stupid.

Wonder if he was wearing a helmet...


At 125 mph, I doubt it mattered.  I would guess she was and got real lucky.
 
2013-02-23 11:53:21 AM  

St_Francis_P: If by "ramming", you mean "sat there and got hit":

Trooper Dawayne Maddux, 32, was parked in the bridge's inside lane near a construction zone with his vehicle's emergency lights on but was "moving to the outside lane" when his cruiser was struck by the motorcycle, the FHP said.

Williamson's Suzuki hit the back of the cruiser, and he and 24-year-old passenger Jenna Elizabeth Scott were thrown from the motorcycle, according to the FHP. Troopers are investigating.


I read that like the cop was hiding in a construction site, knew he was coming and pulled out in front of him to stop his progress. Intentional and hardly just sitting there.

Is say do an investigation and at least see if it can be verified the cop did in fact have his lights on. Speeding shouldn't be a death sentence.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-02-23 12:15:45 PM  

PreMortem: DownDaRiver: Now see, if the bike had modified pipes, the officer would have heard him coming and wouldn't have pulled out in front of the bike.

Ok. I'll just start with you.

Cops have radios. He knew he was coming.


So...even if having a radio gave you clairvoyant knowledge of everything that was happening in a 50 mile radius, how would that make it the fault of anyone other than the driver?  If you hit a vehicle from behind the accident is your fault.  You have a responsibility to maintain control of your vehicle, other people don't have a responsibility to stay out of your way.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-02-23 12:18:27 PM  

PreMortem: St_Francis_P: If by "ramming", you mean "sat there and got hit":

Trooper Dawayne Maddux, 32, was parked in the bridge's inside lane near a construction zone with his vehicle's emergency lights on but was "moving to the outside lane" when his cruiser was struck by the motorcycle, the FHP said.

Williamson's Suzuki hit the back of the cruiser, and he and 24-year-old passenger Jenna Elizabeth Scott were thrown from the motorcycle, according to the FHP. Troopers are investigating.

I read that like the cop was hiding in a construction site, knew he was coming and pulled out in front of him to stop his progress. Intentional and hardly just sitting there.

Is say do an investigation and at least see if it can be verified the cop did in fact have his lights on. Speeding shouldn't be a death sentence.


So what if he did or didn't?  The motorcycle hit him, not the other way around.  It was going 125.  If you don't think being an idiot should be a death sentience talk to Darwin.

The moron killed himself.
 
2013-02-23 12:26:10 PM  

PreMortem: St_Francis_P: If by "ramming", you mean "sat there and got hit":

Trooper Dawayne Maddux, 32, was parked in the bridge's inside lane near a construction zone with his vehicle's emergency lights on but was "moving to the outside lane" when his cruiser was struck by the motorcycle, the FHP said.

Williamson's Suzuki hit the back of the cruiser, and he and 24-year-old passenger Jenna Elizabeth Scott were thrown from the motorcycle, according to the FHP. Troopers are investigating.

I read that like the cop was hiding in a construction site, knew he was coming and pulled out in front of him to stop his progress. Intentional and hardly just sitting there.

Is say do an investigation and at least see if it can be verified the cop did in fact have his lights on. Speeding shouldn't be a death sentence.


But Contempt Of Cop seems to be, at least if you ask a cop.

They're getting more and more "creative" with their methods of execution, though -- first immolation and now this. I don't like where this is going and shudder to think how they will put down the next person who makes them look bad in front of other people.
 
2013-02-23 12:27:44 PM  

PreMortem: DownDaRiver: Now see, if the bike had modified pipes, the officer would have heard him coming and wouldn't have pulled out in front of the bike.

Ok. I'll just start with you.

Cops have radios. He knew he was coming.


Wow, I guess I should feel honored, graced, or something.
Look, if this were a weekday, perhaps I would feel maybe some sort of privledged that you choose me first.
But as your luck would have it, its Saturday. So, well, now don't take this bad. But I don't feel any of those things.
So, look, come back, Mon-Fri, during business hours.
I'll see what I can do for ya.
 
2013-02-23 12:36:11 PM  

PreMortem:


Speeding shouldn't be a death sentence.


The laws of physics disagree.
 
2013-02-23 12:40:29 PM  

St_Francis_P: If by "ramming", you mean "sat there and got hit":

Trooper Dawayne Maddux, 32, was parked in the bridge's inside lane near a construction zone with his vehicle's emergency lights on but was "moving to the outside lane" when his cruiser was struck by the motorcycle, the FHP said.

Williamson's Suzuki hit the back of the cruiser, and he and 24-year-old passenger Jenna Elizabeth Scott were thrown from the motorcycle, according to the FHP. Troopers are investigating.


And if by chased dumbmitter means.... I don't know hat the fark he means.

Sounds like the cops did what they were supposed to do. Bike race across the causeway all the time and there have been some pretty bad accidents, including several fatalities, on that bridge over the years.
 
2013-02-23 01:07:45 PM  
This could be derped back and forth all day (and this being Fark it will be) but they were both wrong.  Speeder was stupid for jeopardizing lives and cop was stupid for killing someone with his negligence.  No winners.  Except Darwin.
 
2013-02-23 01:15:36 PM  

desertmouse: This could be derped back and forth all day (and this being Fark it will be) but they were both wrong.  Speeder was stupid for jeopardizing lives and cop was stupid for killing someone with his negligence.  No winners.  Except Darwin.


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2013-02-23 01:19:58 PM  

vpb: PreMortem: St_Francis_P: If by "ramming", you mean "sat there and got hit":

Trooper Dawayne Maddux, 32, was parked in the bridge's inside lane near a construction zone with his vehicle's emergency lights on but was "moving to the outside lane" when his cruiser was struck by the motorcycle, the FHP said.

Williamson's Suzuki hit the back of the cruiser, and he and 24-year-old passenger Jenna Elizabeth Scott were thrown from the motorcycle, according to the FHP. Troopers are investigating.

I read that like the cop was hiding in a construction site, knew he was coming and pulled out in front of him to stop his progress. Intentional and hardly just sitting there.

Is say do an investigation and at least see if it can be verified the cop did in fact have his lights on. Speeding shouldn't be a death sentence.

So what if he did or didn't?  The motorcycle hit him, not the other way around.  It was going 125.  If you don't think being an idiot should be a death sentience talk to Darwin.

The moron killed himself.


The cop intentionally pulled out in front of him. That is who was intentional. It wasn't negligence on the rider.

What the cop did was wrong. I'd gamble his lights weren't on either.
 
2013-02-23 01:20:39 PM  
This story reminds me of an old saying from Florida.

There are bold motorcyclists.
There are old motorcyclists.
But there are no old, bold motorcyclists.

The dude and his passenger were foolish to do 125 mph on Courtney Campbell Causeway, much less anywhere on public roads.

My stepdaughter and her kids witnessed another dumbass doing 100+ mph on a crowded Tampa multilane road (Waters Ave.). A driver didn't see him coming fast, weaving across lanes, and pulled out in front of him. The dumbass and his bike literally exploded from the impact. Of course, he died at the scene. The man wasn't charged due to the circumstances, i.e. motorcyclist weaving into his lane at high speed in a 40 mph zone.

/Just another Darwin Award, IMHO.
 
2013-02-23 01:21:57 PM  

PreMortem: The cop intentionally pulled out in front of him. That is who was intentional. It wasn't negligence on the rider.

What the cop did was wrong. I'd gamble his lights weren't on either.


Weak troll attempt. Oh, you were serious? BHAAAHHHAAAHHHAAHHH
 
2013-02-23 01:22:17 PM  

PreMortem: The cop intentionally pulled out in front of him. That is who was intentional. It wasn't negligence on the rider.


www.keepcalmandposters.com
 
2013-02-23 01:28:30 PM  
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This is the bridge in question.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-02-23 01:28:38 PM  
PreMortem:

The cop intentionally pulled out in front of him. That is who was intentional. It wasn't negligence on the rider.

What the cop did was wrong. I'd gamble his lights weren't on either.


No, there is nothing that would lead a sane person to conclude that.

It also wouldn't excuse the 125mph moron from responsibility for his own stupidity even if is was true.
 
2013-02-23 02:23:42 PM  
this actually happened to my neighbor's friend. not another instance; i mean my neighbor was direct friends with this guy...
 
2013-02-23 02:23:58 PM  
Anyone fleeing police puts innocent lives in danger. If the end result is only the perps death, it is no ones fault but the perps. Anyone who disagrees with this is wrong.
 
2013-02-23 02:24:17 PM  

dahmers love zombie: Um...I'm not seeing any problem here. It's not like FHP tried to PIT them at 125.


Either way, the perp shouldn't have been doing 125 NOR should he have kept going once the blue lights started flashing.
 
2013-02-23 02:24:28 PM  
Hoist in his own putt-tard.
 
2013-02-23 02:24:58 PM  
Better the shiathead ramming into the side of a police cruiser and dying than ramming into someone's compact and inflicting serious injuries on them.

Cops didn't kill the rider, they protected someone else from having a motorcycle slam into them at 125 mph.  The other people using the road and not engaged in illegal activities have more a of a right to protection than the dickhole evading the police.
 
2013-02-23 02:25:33 PM  
I guess the driver of that motorcycle won't be attempting another stupid stunt like this again. Glad to see the cop haters have come out early.
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2013-02-23 02:26:40 PM  
I have no problem with the cops taking him out.

Better that than he rams into a family of four in a Camry.
 
2013-02-23 02:26:43 PM  

irgunner: Anyone fleeing police puts innocent lives in danger. If the end result is only the perps death, it is no ones fault but the perps. Anyone who disagrees with this is wrong.


Couldn't agree more.
 
2013-02-23 02:27:15 PM  

unlikely: He was doing 125 with a passenger?



Yes.  These farkwits do this shiat all the time in South FL.  Sorry the kid lost his live, but at least the girl will live.

I see this shiat ALL the time.  Wheelies at 80 mph, also.  Lane splitting while speeding.  shiat you would expect to see in a movie and never IRL because it's so dumb and suicidal.
 
2013-02-23 02:27:33 PM  
vpb:  If you hit a vehicle from behind the accident is your fault.  You have a responsibility to maintain control of your vehicle, other people don't have a responsibility to stay out of your way.
 
2013-02-23 02:28:04 PM  

PreMortem: The cop intentionally pulled out in front of him. That is who was intentional. It wasn't negligence on the rider.

What the cop did was wrong. I'd gamble his lights weren't on either.


I hate cops too, but this isn't the thread to do our good work.

There should be a green shortly about an off-duty cop in Camden who shot an autistic kid and his guardian.
 
2013-02-23 02:30:53 PM  

ZzeusS: unlikely: He was doing 125 with a passenger?


Yes.  These farkwits do this shiat all the time in South FL.  Sorry the kid lost his live, but at least the girl will live.

I see this shiat ALL the time.  Wheelies at 80 mph, also.  Lane splitting while speeding.  shiat you would expect to see in a movie and never IRL because it's so dumb and suicidal.


Happens all the time in Atlanta as well and we drive fast around here, it is not unusual to be going 85-90 mph on the downtown connector and be passed like you are standing still by some idiot on a sport bike.
 
2013-02-23 02:31:29 PM  
I'd just like to take a moment to say that you Farkers responding to the troll comment are even bigger idiots than the troll. I really can't believe you take his remark seriously.

Otherwise the guy driving the bike probably would have died in a bike accident later on anyways. I feel bad for the passenger unless she knew the driver regularly drove way too fast but rode with him anyways.
 
2013-02-23 02:32:46 PM  

The_Gallant_Gallstone: There should be a green shortly about an off-duty cop in Camden who shot an autistic kid and his guardian.


Well, if the autistic kid was acting out, all is good.
 
2013-02-23 02:33:06 PM  
Douchebag motorcyclist drives like a douchebag and gets killed as a result. Surprise!  Down here almost everyone has a "watch for motorcycles" bumper sticker. What we need is a "Motorcyclists, don't drive like a douchebag and you won't end up in a body bag" bumper sticker.
 
2013-02-23 02:33:19 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's amazing that the passenger survived.


She had a 170 - 180 lb sack of jello that broke her fall.

JC
 
2013-02-23 02:33:43 PM  
Look, clearly there are some farkers in here who belive that just because one time, - ok probably many times - the cops came upon their stash and confiscated it like the law says, that all cops are EEEvilllll.

In this case, yeah the cop probably should have been watching closer. But if you ask me, enabling Darwin should be rewarded. I'd have voted for spike strips. Yes spike stips. Yes on a motorcycle.
 
2013-02-23 02:33:43 PM  
When you're travelling 184 feet per second, there isn't a lot of time to change lanes if someone moves in front of you. That's why you don't go that fast. Bad cop or not, that's an expected possibility riding like that.
 
2013-02-23 02:33:59 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's amazing that the passenger survived.


Hope she's not a mangled mess and survives with intact and functioning spinal cord and brain.
 
2013-02-23 02:34:55 PM  
Why does anyone "need" a motocycle that goes 125 mph?
 
2013-02-23 02:35:24 PM  

dahmers love zombie: So:
Bikers speeding on bridge.
Cop begins pursuit but stops when it's clear that he can't overtake, and public safety is at issue.
Bikers ram into another cop car at end of bridge.  Darwin claims driver as prize.

Um...I'm not seeing any problem here.  It's not like FHP tried to PIT them at 125.


Came here to say that, nearly verbatim. The rider got what he played for, and I hope the passenger comes out OK. Note to bikers, this can happen when you think you're invincible.
 
2013-02-23 02:35:29 PM  
No, speeding shouldn't be a death sentence.

But going 125 mph, which is nearly twice the top speed limit in most of the country, it shouldn't be unexpected for it to be a death sentence.  If you're going that fast you're not just risking yourself; you're risking everyone else.  So if you die, good.

You can do whatever you want to yourself, you do NOT have a right to risk my life without my consent.
 
2013-02-23 02:36:17 PM  

PreMortem: St_Francis_P: If by "ramming", you mean "sat there and got hit":

Trooper Dawayne Maddux, 32, was parked in the bridge's inside lane near a construction zone with his vehicle's emergency lights on but was "moving to the outside lane" when his cruiser was struck by the motorcycle, the FHP said.

Williamson's Suzuki hit the back of the cruiser, and he and 24-year-old passenger Jenna Elizabeth Scott were thrown from the motorcycle, according to the FHP. Troopers are investigating.

I read that like the cop was hiding in a construction site, knew he was coming and pulled out in front of him to stop his progress. Intentional and hardly just sitting there.

Is say do an investigation and at least see if it can be verified the cop did in fact have his lights on. Speeding shouldn't be a death sentence.


Perhaps the idiot on the motorcycle should have slowed down, so he wouldn't run into a cop car.
 
2013-02-23 02:36:35 PM  

JoeCowboy: Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's amazing that the passenger survived.

She had a 170 - 180 lb sack of jello that broke her fall.

JC


My thoughts exactly. A human airbag.
 
2013-02-23 02:37:04 PM  
slow it down.
 
2013-02-23 02:37:34 PM  
www.queerty.com

Isn't this a hate crime?
 
2013-02-23 02:38:02 PM  
Donorcyles.  I hope this guy left some usable parts on his way out, so there's some good that can come of all this...
 
2013-02-23 02:38:35 PM  
Driving into the path of stupid kids knowing you will kill them? That gets you a promotion and two Fark trolls.
 
2013-02-23 02:39:05 PM  

unlikely: I'm probably among the more stupid speed junkies on Fark, I like topping a buck on the bike, but damn dude with a passenger... that's just stupid.

Wonder if he was wearing a helmet...


FTFA: Williamson's Suzuki hit the back of the cruiser...

Nope, typical Gixxer-squid.  If he had a helmet, it was strapped to the backseat area with his girlfriend's helmet.  And he was probably wearing cargo shorts and flip flops or shoes with no socks.  And a wife beater.
 
2013-02-23 02:39:16 PM  

jpo2269: Why does anyone "need" a motocycle that goes 125 mph?


Because of their penis.
 
2013-02-23 02:39:58 PM  
Oh sure, now who is playing too many video games!
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2013-02-23 02:40:04 PM  

Tom_Slick: ZzeusS: unlikely: He was doing 125 with a passenger?


Yes.  These farkwits do this shiat all the time in South FL.  Sorry the kid lost his live, but at least the girl will live.

I see this shiat ALL the time.  Wheelies at 80 mph, also.  Lane splitting while speeding.  shiat you would expect to see in a movie and never IRL because it's so dumb and suicidal.

Happens all the time in Atlanta as well and we drive fast around here, it is not unusual to be going 85-90 mph on the downtown connector and be passed like you are standing still by some idiot on a sport bike.


You are going to have squidyies everywhere, even in Austin.  This kid new the risk and if he didnt then farkim even more.  Dont like the risk, dont play the game.  For once I dont blame the cop, this is rare.
 
2013-02-23 02:40:12 PM  
So, the motorcyclists was speeding, refused to pull over, the cop gave up the chase and the motorcyclist slammed into a slow moving/parked police car further downt he road and died?

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2013-02-23 02:41:18 PM  

cretinbob: [24.media.tumblr.com image 500x667]
This is the bridge in question.


Nope, that's the Howard Franklin Bridge, part of I-275. The road in question is north of that bridge. The causeway has two much shorter bridges allowing water flow between Old Tampa Bay and the rest of Tampa Bay.

Here's a shot of CCC looking toward the west from the Tampa side.

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2013-02-23 02:41:30 PM  
I'm glad, there's one less ignorant coont in the world. I wonder if his girlfriend was begging him to stop or slow down before he nearly killed her too?
 
2013-02-23 02:41:47 PM  
If you're doing 125 MPH and approaching a car doing 65 MPH, it's like coming upon a stationary object in the road while you're doing 60 MPH.

Friend of mine talked about doing 100+ MPH on a bike and coming up on traffic. Said it was quite a scary and enlightening experience. He still rides, but a bigger cruiser, not a racing bike.

They don't call them donorcycles for nothing.
 
2013-02-23 02:42:32 PM  
I lived in Orlando for many years and if there is one thing I learned its that the only thing dumber than a 21 year old on a motorcycle is 4 of them riding together.  Sometimes I'm amazed that I never saw someone die on I-4, especially around bike week.
 
2013-02-23 02:43:03 PM  
Something some of you don't seem to comprehend.. cops end CHASES if they are unable to detain the suspect after a certain amount of time or distance, NO WHERE does this mean they cannot setup a road block! NO WHERE! Even if the cop setup a legit road block it would not be illegal.. the driver lost control and could not stop for the road block and THAT was the reason for the accident.
 
2013-02-23 02:44:00 PM  
Clearwater? Going up the Bridge? Forget Darwin... This fall under The Xenu Awards.
 
2013-02-23 02:44:01 PM  

St_Francis_P: If by "ramming", you mean "sat there and got hit":

Trooper Dawayne Maddux, 32, was parked in the bridge's inside lane near a construction zone with his vehicle's emergency lights on but was "moving to the outside lane" when his cruiser was struck by the motorcycle, the FHP said.

Williamson's Suzuki hit the back of the cruiser, and he and 24-year-old passenger Jenna Elizabeth Scott were thrown from the motorcycle, according to the FHP. Troopers are investigating.


Listen, dick. We can't be cop haters 100% of the time unless the media stretches the truth from time to time.
 
2013-02-23 02:45:13 PM  

PreMortem: Speeding shouldn't be a death sentence.


More of a suicide, really.
 
2013-02-23 02:45:29 PM  

unlikely: I'm probably among the more stupid speed junkies on Fark, I like topping a buck on the bike, but damn dude with a passenger... that's just stupid.

Wonder if he was wearing a helmet...


At that speed, the helmet's wearing you for protection.
 
2013-02-23 02:45:53 PM  
Nice job Subby.

You got all the cop haters out of the woodwork. Now please put them away now, the fun is over.
 
2013-02-23 02:46:47 PM  
Fresh organs for donation, come and get 'em!
 
2013-02-23 02:47:14 PM  

PreMortem: vpb: PreMortem: St_Francis_P: If by "ramming", you mean "sat there and got hit":

Trooper Dawayne Maddux, 32, was parked in the bridge's inside lane near a construction zone with his vehicle's emergency lights on but was "moving to the outside lane" when his cruiser was struck by the motorcycle, the FHP said.

Williamson's Suzuki hit the back of the cruiser, and he and 24-year-old passenger Jenna Elizabeth Scott were thrown from the motorcycle, according to the FHP. Troopers are investigating.

I read that like the cop was hiding in a construction site, knew he was coming and pulled out in front of him to stop his progress. Intentional and hardly just sitting there.

Is say do an investigation and at least see if it can be verified the cop did in fact have his lights on. Speeding shouldn't be a death sentence.

So what if he did or didn't?  The motorcycle hit him, not the other way around.  It was going 125.  If you don't think being an idiot should be a death sentience talk to Darwin.

The moron killed himself.

The cop intentionally pulled out in front of him. That is who was intentional. It wasn't negligence on the rider.

What the cop did was wrong. I'd gamble his lights weren't on either.


So, when someone breaks the law the police should just stand idly by and do nothing? 

What the cop did was right.  And I would gamble that his lights were on.  The only negligence here was the idiot motorcycle rider who thought he was above the law.
 
2013-02-23 02:47:15 PM  
I really doubt the cop in the car deliberately cut off the motorcyclist, if for no other reason than self-preservation. Getting creamed by a motorcycle going 125 mph is absolutely going to total your car and has a significant chance of injuring anyone inside. My guess is that the cop did deliberately move to block, but either was going by radio and didn't look behind himself first (or just didn't see the motorcycle coming) or he thought he was giving the guy enough time to stop but wasn't.
 
2013-02-23 02:47:36 PM  

unlikely: I'm probably among the more stupid speed junkies on Fark, I like topping a buck on the bike, but damn dude with a passenger... that's just stupid.

Wonder if he was wearing a helmet...


Why?  Doesn't really matter if your brain is well protected if it winds up 200 feet away from your neck.
 
2013-02-23 02:48:00 PM  

Alleyoop: Fresh organs for donation, come and get 'em!


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2013-02-23 02:48:11 PM  

jpo2269: Why does anyone "need" a motocycle that goes 125 mph?


Cut of jib...newsletter...etc.  You get the drift.
 
2013-02-23 02:49:29 PM  
why is everyone assuming the motorcycle was going 125 when it hit the cruiser? the article only says that the chase reached 125mph at one point. It's possible he was going much slower near the end. Of course you can't tell one way or another from the article.
 
2013-02-23 02:49:44 PM  

jpo2269: Why does anyone "need" a motocycle that goes 125 mph?


Small penis.
 
2013-02-23 02:50:34 PM  

FlyingBacon: You got all the cop haters out of the woodwork. Now please put them away now, the fun is over.


Too late dawg... at least we can distinguish when the pigs aren't 100% in the wrong... from time to time.
 
2013-02-23 02:51:38 PM  
 "but was "moving to the outside lane" when his cruiser was struck by the motorcycle"

Remember when Fark was full of people who could read?
 
2013-02-23 02:51:38 PM  
To be fair, they had to be stopped to prevent reproduction.
 
2013-02-23 02:51:56 PM  
FTA: "A group of motorcycles was traveling more than twice the speed limit..."

"The 26-year-old didn't stop."


As someone who just bought a bike, I'm getting a kick, etc. That's the kind of asshole that gives other riders a bad reputation. I'm having trouble drumming up any sympathy whatsoever, except for the passenger who thankfully survived the moron-a-thon.

Darwin wins and there's one less idiot rider tearing around.
 
2013-02-23 02:52:37 PM  

dahmers love zombie: So:
Bikers speeding on bridge.
Cop begins pursuit but stops when it's clear that he can't overtake, and public safety is at issue.
Bikers ram into another cop car at end of bridge.  Darwin claims driver as prize.

Um...I'm not seeing any problem here.  It's not like FHP tried to PIT them at 125.


That's how I'm reading this too.  If there's any reason that the cops are in the wrong here (and I have no love for the police!), I'd love to know what it is.
 
2013-02-23 02:53:26 PM  
The cops caused this incident by hypnotizing the cyclist into driving 125mph into a car they purposefully put in his path.

Because they're evil and like stuff like that.
 
2013-02-23 02:54:00 PM  
ih0.redbubble.net
 
2013-02-23 02:54:03 PM  

gmaki: why is everyone assuming the motorcycle was going 125 when it hit the cruiser? the article only says that the chase reached 125mph at one point. It's possible he was going much slower near the end. Of course you can't tell one way or another from the article.


Don't take away my hyperbole joy. The basement is already so dark.
 
2013-02-23 02:54:22 PM  

jpo2269: Why does anyone "need" a motocycle that goes 125 mph?


Why does anyone "need" a sportscar, bungee jumping equipment, mountain climbing gear, 72in television, etc....  I don't own any of these things but I can see why someone would.  Of course in the case of the car or the bike, one shouldn't be going those speeds unless they are on a track designed for that sort of thing.
 
2013-02-23 02:54:43 PM  

TommyymmoT: JoeCowboy: Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's amazing that the passenger survived.

She had a 170 - 180 lb sack of jello that broke her fall.

JC

My thoughts exactly. A human airbag.


And a meat skid plate. Hopefully she was asphalt surfing on his back for most of the trip.  Road rash at 125 will go all the way to the bone and farther.
 
2013-02-23 02:55:24 PM  

unlikely: Wonder if he was wearing a helmet...


At 125, do you really think it would have made a difference?
 
2013-02-23 02:59:00 PM  
125... with a passenger?

Really not feeling any sympathy for the guy.
 
2013-02-23 02:59:04 PM  

Mock26: jpo2269: Why does anyone "need" a motocycle that goes 125 mph?

Small penis.


actually, right after the accident the distance between the tip and base of his penis was likely about 1,500 yards...... That is pretty impressive.
 
2013-02-23 02:59:38 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's amazing that the passenger survived.



Right here.
 
2013-02-23 03:00:49 PM  

theMagni: unlikely: I'm probably among the more stupid speed junkies on Fark, I like topping a buck on the bike, but damn dude with a passenger... that's just stupid.

Wonder if he was wearing a helmet...

At that speed, the helmet's wearing you for protection.


This is the second comment I've seen about "At that speed, he's pretty much dead anyway" which is completely false.  You can wipeout on a bike at 125mph and get up and walk away.  However, you do need to be wearing the proper gear, and you also need to have plenty of sliding room.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBFJ6YLPQ9I
 
2013-02-23 03:02:11 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's amazing that the passenger survived.


Some tits are almost as good as airbags.
 
2013-02-23 03:02:26 PM  
Tom_Slick:

Happens all the time in Atlanta as well and we drive fast around here, it is not unusual to be going 85-90 mph on the downtown connector and be passed like you are standing still by some idiot on a sport bike.

Yeppers, I have been strolling downtown on Peachtree St. before and have witnessed groups of 18 or so speeding (no where near 125, however), lane splitting, wheelies, etc. It was actually more terrifying for pedestrians than anybody else. We jaywalk a lot, ya know.
 
2013-02-23 03:03:03 PM  
stupid games, stupid prizes... etc
 
2013-02-23 03:03:40 PM  
If you're doing 125 on a bike, you're already dancing with death.

When he comes to collect, it's no ones fault but your own
 
2013-02-23 03:03:50 PM  
To all the cop haters in this thread: Save your cop hate for THIS guy...

http://www.abqjournal.com/main/2013/02/21/news/officer-had-the-red-l ig ht.html

Ran red light, killed girl, injured her sister, lied about chasing DWI suspect.
 
2013-02-23 03:04:10 PM  

nickerj1: theMagni: unlikely: I'm probably among the more stupid speed junkies on Fark, I like topping a buck on the bike, but damn dude with a passenger... that's just stupid.

Wonder if he was wearing a helmet...

At that speed, the helmet's wearing you for protection.

This is the second comment I've seen about "At that speed, he's pretty much dead anyway" which is completely false.  You can wipeout on a bike at 125mph and get up and walk away.  However, you do need to be wearing the proper gear, and you also need to have plenty of sliding room.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBFJ6YLPQ9I


Except that those bikes are going no where near 125 mph on those turns.
 
2013-02-23 03:05:13 PM  
Also. let's remember that this was one side of the story.  Could be true, or the cop swerved over the line and hit him.  They should release these stories when all the evidence has come out.  There should be video of said chase. correct?


Trooper Dawayne Maddux, 32, was parked in the bridge's inside lane near a construction zone with his vehicle's emergency lights on but was "moving to the outside lane" when his cruiser was struck by the motorcycle, the FHP said.

Sounds as if the cop hit him.  He was "parked" in the inside lane and changed lanes...  Who it who?  Who turned the screw?
 
2013-02-23 03:05:55 PM  

nickerj1: theMagni: unlikely: I'm probably among the more stupid speed junkies on Fark, I like topping a buck on the bike, but damn dude with a passenger... that's just stupid.

Wonder if he was wearing a helmet...

At that speed, the helmet's wearing you for protection.

This is the second comment I've seen about "At that speed, he's pretty much dead anyway" which is completely false.  You can wipeout on a bike at 125mph and get up and walk away.  However, you do need to be wearing the proper gear, and you also need to have plenty of sliding room.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBFJ6YLPQ9I


But this was florida, so the rider was wearing shorts, a t-shirt, and a doo-rag.
 
2013-02-23 03:07:08 PM  

PreMortem: Cops have radios. He knew he was coming.


It was a city cop that called off the chase and a state cop that got it. They're not on the same radio frequency.
 
GBB
2013-02-23 03:07:38 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I see the trollers are already on the job this morning


cdn.hark.com

shiat.
What?
Trollers?
No...
Yeah.
shiat.
 
2013-02-23 03:09:23 PM  
THE COP WAS STILL IN THE CAR. There is no way (even in Florida) that a living human being (even a cop) would intentionally get hit by a motorcycle (especially one traveling over 100mph).

Just sayen'. I'm pretty sure the cop didn't expect the guy to hit him.

Also, I'm going to have nightmares about that road... geez whiz.
 
2013-02-23 03:09:37 PM  

St_Francis_P: If by "ramming", you mean "sat there and got hit":

Trooper Dawayne Maddux, 32, was parked in the bridge's inside lane near a construction zone with his vehicle's emergency lights on but was "moving to the outside lane" when his cruiser was struck by the motorcycle, the FHP said.

Williamson's Suzuki hit the back of the cruiser, and he and 24-year-old passenger Jenna Elizabeth Scott were thrown from the motorcycle, according to the FHP. Troopers are investigating.


crossing all of the lanes is hardly "sitting there". radio means that he knew the bike was coming.

Biker was breaking the law and ultimately brought this on himself, but this cop certainly intended to get hit... and that intent should be taken into account.
 
2013-02-23 03:09:44 PM  

PreMortem: Speeding shouldn't be a death sentence.


doing a buck twenty five on a bike IS a death sentence, one way or another, eventually.

/but it's the car's fault!
 
2013-02-23 03:09:56 PM  
God damned Cannon-ballers.
 
2013-02-23 03:11:01 PM  
Bullshiat headline is bullshiat.

Subby fail.
 
2013-02-23 03:14:17 PM  

nickerj1: This is the second comment I've seen about "At that speed, he's pretty much dead anyway" which is completely false.  You can wipeout on a bike at 125mph and get up and walk away.  However, you do need to be wearing the proper gear, and you also need to have plenty of sliding room.


The article isn't talking about a smooth racetrack bordered by objects designed to be crashed into by a human body or people who are wearing professional grade protective gear.

A friend of mine lived on a street where a guy got a new bike, the first time he rode it, he severed his leg on a guardrail and died.
 
2013-02-23 03:15:53 PM  

YouPeopleAreCrazy: unlikely: Wonder if he was wearing a helmet...

At 125, do you really think it would have made a difference?


It can depending on if you smack, slide or roll.  At 125mph nothing is going to save you if you slam into a solid object.  The helmet may keep your head intact but your neck and body are going to get some snaps.  Although I have friends who have survived such impacts and been in traction for months.  If you roll it can actually be worse and you get multiple smaller impacts all over the body, snapping a bone with every hit and wrenching the meat all over as you pretzel roll your way down the road.  If you slide.....you might be ok, with the right gear and a ton of luck you can even walk away from it.  A lot of surviving a long slide is up to the rider  and how experienced he is, ready to sacrifice his ass cheeks to the pavement.  I have slid a few times in good gear and without, my worst was a 50 foot slide on a wet road that destroyed my blue jeans and gave pizza legs.  But no hospital stay.  I've actually slid on my helmet and had it take the brunt of the damage leaving me unharmed, on that wreck if I had not had a helmet I would have lost my face and likely a bit of brain on the asphalt.  Of all the wrecks I honestly believe helmets saved my life twice from certain death, the helmets were cracked from impact.

If you ride, eventually, you are going to get hurt.  Ride long enough and you will get hurt bad at some point.  For me its still worth it.  Not riding like a farking maniac can greatly reduce the odds of it being a really bad drop.  But nothing can stop the other vehicles and what they do to you, just pray you can get out of the way.

/end not so csb
//yes I know i'm a useless old fark who rambles on and on
 
2013-02-23 03:19:00 PM  
FTFA:  "but was "moving to the outside lane" when his cruiser was struck by the motorcycle"

What part of "moving" confuses you semi-literate types? He ran into them. It says so in the article.
 
2013-02-23 03:19:07 PM  
"Trooper Dawayne Maddux, 32, was parked in the bridge's inside lane near a construction zone with his vehicle's emergency lights on"

I guess the officer really took that whole "Slow for the Cone Zone" PR Campaign rather seriously.
 
2013-02-23 03:23:00 PM  

jpo2269: Why does anyone "need" a motocycle that goes 125 mph?


Because..... Dinosaurs!
 
2013-02-23 03:24:22 PM  
At a speed like 125 it is hard for people, used to going rates closer to the speed limit, to judge where the speeding vehicle will be. Some good you tube video demonstrating this.

So I don't think the cop meant to pull in front of him.  How could he not know that would be extremely dangerous to him?

love bikes and fast cars, I know why people run but looking at the image of the bridge there was no 'safe' way to be certain to escape. Inexperience, I've been on some memorial rides for these kids.
 
2013-02-23 03:24:30 PM  

gmaki: why is everyone assuming the motorcycle was going 125 when it hit the cruiser? the article only says that the chase reached 125mph at one point. It's possible he was going much slower near the end. Of course you can't tell one way or another from the article.


actually the motorcycle was doing 0 MPH the moment it hit the cruiser that's why he got killed. He died because he bike did 0. He was just fine doing 125.
 
2013-02-23 03:27:29 PM  

derpy: PreMortem: Speeding shouldn't be a death sentence.

doing a buck twenty five on a bike IS a death sentence, one way or another, eventually.

/but it's the car's fault!


used to hit 120 plus every time I took my Super Blackbird out, no high speed accidents. But two low speed ones; one cat ruined my belly pan and ice ruined left side.  I don't speed on purpose anymore, can't afford tickets or gas.
 
2013-02-23 03:29:58 PM  
My guess is that she was nagging him to slow down so much that he couldn't concentrate on driving, so he didn't notice the police car in front of him until it was too late.
 
2013-02-23 03:33:11 PM  
Having been young and stupid at some point in my life, I was the back seater at 260km/h on a crotch rocket once (ok, maybe twice). It was legal, too, on the Autobahn. Good news is, if something happens, it'll just take a split second.
 
2013-02-23 03:33:20 PM  
dahmers love zombie:

Bikers speeding on bridge.
Cop begins pursuit but stops when it's clear that he can't overtake, and public safety is at issue.
Bikers ram into another cop car at end of bridge. Darwin claims driver as prize.


/ QFT
// crotchrocketeers give responsible bikers a bad name
 
2013-02-23 03:35:38 PM  
If the bike was approaching at 125 I seriously doubt the highway patrol cruiser could have accelerated fast enough or the officer driving it react fast enough to intentionally "block" a bike approaching that quickly. The rider an hero'd it big time, end of story, move on.
 
2013-02-23 03:38:56 PM  
I have a feeling that when the policy officer was veering over, he probably had an idea he was entering the trajectory of the motorcycle. I'm envisioning Bugs Bunny holding a stick so Elmer Fudd trips over it. Those cop types have radios...
 
2013-02-23 03:39:06 PM  
Why are we biatching about cops actually doing their job for once and apprehending an obvious lawbreaker and clear danger to the public?

/welcome to fark
 
2013-02-23 03:39:20 PM  

PreMortem: vpb: PreMortem: St_Francis_P: If by "ramming", you mean "sat there and got hit":

Trooper Dawayne Maddux, 32, was parked in the bridge's inside lane near a construction zone with his vehicle's emergency lights on but was "moving to the outside lane" when his cruiser was struck by the motorcycle, the FHP said.

Williamson's Suzuki hit the back of the cruiser, and he and 24-year-old passenger Jenna Elizabeth Scott were thrown from the motorcycle, according to the FHP. Troopers are investigating.

I read that like the cop was hiding in a construction site, knew he was coming and pulled out in front of him to stop his progress. Intentional and hardly just sitting there.

Is say do an investigation and at least see if it can be verified the cop did in fact have his lights on. Speeding shouldn't be a death sentence.

So what if he did or didn't?  The motorcycle hit him, not the other way around.  It was going 125.  If you don't think being an idiot should be a death sentience talk to Darwin.

The moron killed himself.

The cop intentionally pulled out in front of him. That is who was intentional. It wasn't negligence on the rider.

What the cop did was wrong. I'd gamble his lights weren't on either.


125 mph wasn't negligence? WTF?
 
2013-02-23 03:42:38 PM  
The first Cop was from the Clearwater police department, the one involved in the accident was from the Florida Highway Patrol. Even though they both have radios they would not hear each other as they were on different frequencies. Unless the Clearwater dispatcher contacted the FHP and requested assistance and then the FHP dispatcher put out a call regarding the speeding motorcycle then the FHP officer had no idea he was coming.

And anyone who thinks a cop would pull out in front of a 700lb vehicle (400lb bike 2x150lb passengers) traveling at high speed is nuts. That type of impact could very well kill the car driver and cops know it.

It also happened at night (10:30 PM) so the FHP officer would have a hard time judging distance even if he did see the bike coming.

more info:

http://lutz.patch.com/articles/lutz-man-dies-after-motorcycle-strike s- patrol-car

"The trooper's car was "positioned in an active construction zone in which the inside lane of travel was closed"
 
2013-02-23 03:43:17 PM  

jpo2269: Why does anyone "need" a motocycle that goes 125 mph?


To escape from the evil gubmint that's gonna take away your lovely guns.
 
2013-02-23 03:48:52 PM  
Trooper Dawayne Maddux, 32, was parked in the bridge's inside lane near a construction zone with his vehicle's emergency lights on but was "moving to the outside lane"

That`s a good trick if you can pull it off.
 
2013-02-23 03:52:14 PM  

orclover: It can depending on if you smack, slide or roll.


I can't imagine the percentages of hitting a solid object (cop car) at 125, and living, are very good, lid or no lid.

I had 2 crashes. 1 low speed (30ish). Drunk asshat ran a red light, and I ran into the side of his car. As I'm laying there in the intersection, he left. Zero injuries beyond a sprained thumb.
The 2nd was ~65 or so. I 'think' I hit a critter crossing the freeway. Tankslapper, slide, slide, slide. Hamburger legs and shoulders, but no hospital stay.

Why do I not ride anymore? Because I'm still vertical, and don't want that 3rd strike.
 
2013-02-23 03:59:45 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: Biker was breaking the law and ultimately brought this on himself, but this cop certainly intended to get hit... and that intent should be taken into account.


Give him a medal for saving someone else's property/life and a thank-you note from the person who gets his organs.
 
2013-02-23 04:01:30 PM  

Tom_Slick: ZzeusS: unlikely: He was doing 125 with a passenger?


Yes.  These farkwits do this shiat all the time in South FL.  Sorry the kid lost his live, but at least the girl will live.

I see this shiat ALL the time.  Wheelies at 80 mph, also.  Lane splitting while speeding.  shiat you would expect to see in a movie and never IRL because it's so dumb and suicidal.

Happens all the time in Atlanta as well and we drive fast around here, it is not unusual to be going 85-90 mph on the downtown connector and be passed like you are standing still by some idiot on a sport bike.



Bonus points for having a ball-cap on backwards and a t shirt flapping up over the back of your neck.
 
2013-02-23 04:02:30 PM  

jpo2269: Why does anyone "need" a motocycle that goes 125 mph?


If everyone were travelling at 125 this never would have happened.
 
2013-02-23 04:04:02 PM  

Glendale: If the bike was approaching at 125 I seriously doubt the highway patrol cruiser could have accelerated fast enough or the officer driving it react fast enough to intentionally "block" a bike approaching that quickly. The rider an hero'd it big time, end of story, move on.


The opposite is true. If you move perpendicular to my path, the faster I am going, the better your chance to block me  and force the wreck. At 10 mph, as skilled rider can easily swerve an entire car length within 15 ft of travel. At 125 mph, the same swerve to avoid would take closer to 100 feet.
 
2013-02-23 04:06:07 PM  
unimpressed
cdn2.mamapop.com
/were an autogyro and a gas tanker involved?
 
2013-02-23 04:07:11 PM  

DownDaRiver: Now see, if the bike had modified pipes, the officer would have heard him coming and wouldn't have pulled out in front of the bike.


I read the article.  Based on what it says, the officer pulled out in front of the speeding bike.  Emergency lights or no, that just caused homicide, attempted homicide and assault with a deadly.  Among other things.

Bet you 100$ the cop doesn't even get a note in his file.
 
2013-02-23 04:10:14 PM  

Kahabut: DownDaRiver: Now see, if the bike had modified pipes, the officer would have heard him coming and wouldn't have pulled out in front of the bike.

I read the article.  Based on what it says, the officer pulled out in front of the speeding bike.  Emergency lights or no, that just caused homicide, attempted homicide and assault with a deadly.  Among other things.

Bet you 100$ the cop doesn't even get a note in his file.


Bullshiat.  He kept the idiot and his equally brainless passenger from injuring/killing any of the law abiding motorists.  One less moron on a superbike is a very good thing.  Its just too bad the passenger lived.  Hopefully she at least loses a limb or major organ.
 
2013-02-23 04:12:36 PM  
CSB

I had a Kawi z600R once upon a time.  When moving from city A to city B, on a long stretch of turnpike, decided to wrap the bike up as far as it would go, just to see.

Had a helmet and jacket.  I think I got to 140 something  Whatever the max on the speedometer..  Held it for a good minute or two.  Your chin is pressed against the tank, and you can't see anything at all due to the the vibrations.  At night, with no eye protection, and a passenger?  Super non smart thing to do all the way around.

I got busted at the toll exit via highway patrol roadblock.  I couldn't outrun the radio apparently.  Had to move so I could ride a bicycle walk to work for six months.  That was loads of fun.
 
2013-02-23 04:12:52 PM  

orclover: YouPeopleAreCrazy: unlikely: Wonder if he was wearing a helmet...

At 125, do you really think it would have made a difference?

It can depending on if you smack, slide or roll.  At 125mph nothing is going to save you if you slam into a solid object.  The helmet may keep your head intact but your neck and body are going to get some snaps.  Although I have friends who have survived such impacts and been in traction for months.  If you roll it can actually be worse and you get multiple smaller impacts all over the body, snapping a bone with every hit and wrenching the meat all over as you pretzel roll your way down the road.  If you slide.....you might be ok, with the right gear and a ton of luck you can even walk away from it.  A lot of surviving a long slide is up to the rider  and how experienced he is, ready to sacrifice his ass cheeks to the pavement.  I have slid a few times in good gear and without, my worst was a 50 foot slide on a wet road that destroyed my blue jeans and gave pizza legs.  But no hospital stay.  I've actually slid on my helmet and had it take the brunt of the damage leaving me unharmed, on that wreck if I had not had a helmet I would have lost my face and likely a bit of brain on the asphalt.  Of all the wrecks I honestly believe helmets saved my life twice from certain death, the helmets were cracked from impact.

If you ride, eventually, you are going to get hurt.  Ride long enough and you will get hurt bad at some point.  For me its still worth it.  Not riding like a farking maniac can greatly reduce the odds of it being a really bad drop.  But nothing can stop the other vehicles and what they do to you, just pray you can get out of the way.

/end not so csb
//yes I know i'm a useless old fark who rambles on and on


Please don't take this wrong, but if you've had multiple serious motorcycle accidents perhaps it's time to give up on that mode of transportation.

/can barely ride a bicycle without training wheels
 
2013-02-23 04:16:39 PM  

Kahabut: DownDaRiver: Now see, if the bike had modified pipes, the officer would have heard him coming and wouldn't have pulled out in front of the bike.

I read the article.  Based on what it says, the officer pulled out in front of the speeding bike.  Emergency lights or no, that just caused homicide, attempted homicide and assault with a deadly.  Among other things.

Bet you 100$ the cop doesn't even get a note in his file.


The bike was traveling 125 MPH at a construction zone. Even if the cop did it on purpose, which is far from clear, what the fark are you crying about? Do you just like lunatics on crotch rockets more than DOT workers or what?
 
2013-02-23 04:17:57 PM  
Looks like everyone's itching to find some super-conspiracy to make the cops the bad guys on this.

The dipshiat was doing twice the speed limit, damn right a cop's gonna try and nail his ass to the wall for that. Plenty of non-cops would want to do the same.

The cop broke off pursuit when they failed to stop, in the interest of public safety... chasing them can lead to higher speeds, and more dangerous impacts.  Last thing anyone wants is to be plowed into by a few hundred pounds of motorcycle and meat, just to be followed up with a whallop a magnitude greater as several thousand pounds of police cruiser finishes a bone crushing one-two combo.

There is also the possibility that the officer was nearing his top speed, either the limit of the vehicle, or the officer was aware of his own limits, and knew he lacked the skill to handle a 2 to 3 ton car at those speeds.  Even if these were the main factor in the officer ceasing pursuit, it was a smart move.

The cruiser that was hit was a state trooper, not city police.  Even barring  CruiserTwelve's mention of them operating on different frequencies, a state trooper's not going to serve as a one-man road block at a city PD's request, unless the suspect has committed some serious crimes.  And even if the state troopers responded, they would not have one car jump out of a construction zone in the hope of getting a lucky hit.

My take on the whole mess is that the guy took a gamble and lost his life in the process.  Hopefully the girl (Which I took as a second rider, not a passenger) lives to learn from the ordeal.  The city officer did right to break off, and the state trooper got an unlucky break. Only one at fault was a cocky SOB on a crotch rocket.
 
2013-02-23 04:18:06 PM  
I love bullet bikes...the feeling of the trunk through my hair...
 
2013-02-23 04:19:08 PM  
I love the idea of riding a motorcycle. Did it a bit as a kid in Arkansas - years later as a passenger in Colorado. Ended up driving a Jeep Wrangler for 12 years (pre 2nd child) as a 'compromise' I suppose - still love that whole "wind in the hair" thing so I most sincerely understand the appeal.

That said, I've not talked to any bike rider (who's main source of transport was the cycle) who didn't have to at least lay it down once within 6 months. Leathers or not, it's a huge risk - which is probably part of the rush. Again, I understand this.

But I'll be damned if I'll let my kids on one, nor drive one - at least as long as I can hold the line, so to speak. Dated too many nurses, Drs - live near 2 major trauma hospitals and it's always the same tale - and basic fact. The less materials to absorb impact/danger - the more you will suffer/die. If there's a way around this, let me know - cause I'd love to get the aforementioned rush w/out the risk.
 
2013-02-23 04:20:26 PM  
Dumbass. Don't biatch if you gamble "all in" and lose.

Better yet, they were coming into a construction area. I'm sure if the motorcycle collided with a construction worker, we'd be hearing how the construction personnel were putting the motorcyclists at risk.

Racing at night, in an urban area, in a construction zone....derp times 3.
 
2013-02-23 04:23:11 PM  

FF Mac: Dumbass. Don't biatch if you gamble "all in" and lose.

Better yet, they were coming into a construction area. I'm sure if the motorcycle collided with a construction worker, we'd be hearing how the construction personnel were putting the motorcyclists at risk.

Racing at night, in an urban area, in a construction zone....derp times 3.


Actually, that bridge looks like the perfect spot to race.
 
2013-02-23 04:23:58 PM  

Saberus Terras: Hopefully the girl (Which I took as a second rider, not a passenger) lives to learn from the ordeal.


Um, it's right there in TFA: "Williamson's Suzuki hit the back of the cruiser, and he and 24-year-old passenger Jenna Elizabeth Scott were thrown from the motorcycle..."
 
2013-02-23 04:25:54 PM  
Who made today Opposite Day? I'm with the 5-0 on this one. They did absolutely nothing wrong. Not even a little bit. Buddy even had his emergency lights on. I hate to see anyone die, but Darwinismdid its job.
 
2013-02-23 04:25:57 PM  
pjmedia.com
 
2013-02-23 04:27:32 PM  

Saberus Terras: Hopefully the girl (Which I took as a second rider, not a passenger)


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silodrome.com
 
2013-02-23 04:35:47 PM  
evaned
MBooda


I see that now, but it doesn't affect my feelings expressed in my previous post.

And that is one funky ride,  MBooda.
 
2013-02-23 04:36:47 PM  
Has anyone posted the 'ha-ha' jpg yet?

Good riddance. Too bad his skank whore passenger didn't die as well.
 
2013-02-23 04:39:37 PM  
Clearly, this kid was worse than Hitler.
 
2013-02-23 04:49:32 PM  
Can we just agree on some sensible regulations on high speed motorcycles now?
 
2013-02-23 04:56:22 PM  
This is why I hate the "Watch for Motorcycles" crowd.
 
2013-02-23 04:57:32 PM  

PreMortem: The cop intentionally pulled out in front of him. That is who was intentional. It wasn't negligence on the rider.


His speed was in excess of 100 mph, the negligence was unequivocally 100%on the rider.

Good god, you can't possibly be this stupid so you're obviously trolling.
 
2013-02-23 04:57:34 PM  
125mph == 180 feet per secondwith reaction time around 1/3 of a second, there aint much hope in hell of stopping a bike going that fast if someone pulled in front of you about 200 feet away
 
2013-02-23 04:57:36 PM  

Benjamin Orr: Can we just agree on some sensible regulations on high speed motorcycles now?


Why? As this case proves, it's a problem that solves itself.
 
2013-02-23 05:00:31 PM  
AndreMA:

Please don't take this wrong, but if you've had multiple serious motorcycle accidents perhaps it's time to give up on that mode of transportation.

/can barely ride a bicycle without training wheels


Been riding for nearly 35 years.  Would seem kinda wimpy to give it up now, hell, i've almost got the hang of it.
 
2013-02-23 05:03:08 PM  

CruiserTwelve: PreMortem: Cops have radios. He knew he was coming.

It was a city cop that called off the chase and a state cop that got it. They're not on the same radio frequency.


You are so wrong.
 
2013-02-23 05:06:18 PM  

derpy: PreMortem: Speeding shouldn't be a death sentence.

doing a buck twenty five on a bike IS a death sentence, one way or another, eventually.

/but it's the car's fault!


He wasn't doing 125 when the cop pulled out in front of him.
 
2013-02-23 05:08:13 PM  

ReapTheChaos: PreMortem: The cop intentionally pulled out in front of him. That is who was intentional. It wasn't negligence on the rider.

His speed was in excess of 100 mph, the negligence was unequivocally 100%on the rider.

Good god, you can't possibly be this stupid so you're obviously trolling.


Good god you have now reading comprehension skills. The cop that clocked him had pulled off. He was no longer doing 125.
 
2013-02-23 05:10:18 PM  

Katolu: PreMortem: vpb: PreMortem: St_Francis_P: If by "ramming", you mean "sat there and got hit":

Trooper Dawayne Maddux, 32, was parked in the bridge's inside lane near a construction zone with his vehicle's emergency lights on but was "moving to the outside lane" when his cruiser was struck by the motorcycle, the FHP said.

Williamson's Suzuki hit the back of the cruiser, and he and 24-year-old passenger Jenna Elizabeth Scott were thrown from the motorcycle, according to the FHP. Troopers are investigating.

I read that like the cop was hiding in a construction site, knew he was coming and pulled out in front of him to stop his progress. Intentional and hardly just sitting there.

Is say do an investigation and at least see if it can be verified the cop did in fact have his lights on. Speeding shouldn't be a death sentence.

So what if he did or didn't?  The motorcycle hit him, not the other way around.  It was going 125.  If you don't think being an idiot should be a death sentience talk to Darwin.

The moron killed himself.

The cop intentionally pulled out in front of him. That is who was intentional. It wasn't negligence on the rider.

What the cop did was wrong. I'd gamble his lights weren't on either.

125 mph wasn't negligence? WTF?


When was he doing the 125? Not after the first cop stopped pursuing.
 
2013-02-23 05:11:52 PM  

PreMortem: It wasn't negligence on the rider.


No, it wasn't negligence. It was depraved indifference on the part of the motorcylist. He wasn't going 125 mph by accident.

There is only one person at fault, and it was the jackass riding the bike.
 
2013-02-23 05:12:34 PM  
farkING MURDER!


Excuse me for shouting.
 
2013-02-23 05:13:08 PM  

kvinesknows: 125mph == 180 feet per secondwith reaction time around 1/3 of a second, there aint much hope in hell of stopping a bike going that fast if someone pulled in front of you about 200 feet away


Intentionally.

I cant believe all you asshats fault the rider when a cop intentionally pulled out in front of a motorcycle with intent.

Fark all you trolls.
 
2013-02-23 05:16:19 PM  
,But you see, subby, the penis does the 'ramming' and the vagina gets 'rammed'. Now in this case, the motorcyclist is the penis, and the police are the vagina. Penis rams vagina. Okay?
 
2013-02-23 05:23:24 PM  

sevenpointsixtwo: Kahabut: DownDaRiver: Now see, if the bike had modified pipes, the officer would have heard him coming and wouldn't have pulled out in front of the bike.

I read the article.  Based on what it says, the officer pulled out in front of the speeding bike.  Emergency lights or no, that just caused homicide, attempted homicide and assault with a deadly.  Among other things.

Bet you 100$ the cop doesn't even get a note in his file.

Bullshiat.  He kept the idiot and his equally brainless passenger from injuring/killing any of the law abiding motorists.  One less moron on a superbike is a very good thing.  Its just too bad the passenger lived.  Hopefully she at least loses a limb or major organ.


And this is why democracy doesn't work.  It's at least half full of ignorant self important assholes.

I leave it to you to figure out if I mean the cop, you or the biker.
 
2013-02-23 05:32:41 PM  

Thai_Mai_Xhu: farkING MURDER!


Excuse me for shouting.


Justifiable homicide, at best.

99% of cops are assholes. Chances are, this cop was an asshole too.

I still have no problem with what happened, even if cop #2 was being an asshole.
 
2013-02-23 05:33:03 PM  
Bah, that's not ramming a motorcyle... THIS is ramming a motorcycle...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg3qdZvXF5k
 
2013-02-23 05:37:25 PM  

LoneWolf343: Why are we biatching about cops actually doing their job for once and apprehending an obvious lawbreaker and clear danger to the public?

/welcome to fark


LoneWolf343    +2
Subby   - Fail
 
2013-02-23 05:40:36 PM  
Jesus I never knew speeding was such a serious crime. and I never knew 125mph was such an unimaginably fast speed for most farkers. Most cars, even crappy ones can do that speed in less than a minute and any decent motorcycle can get there in seconds.... and do it all the time. Going 125 doesn't automatically result in mass carnage. It rarely does.

And it certainly doesn't mean some cop should help you die. I have no idea if the cop did I am simply referring to to all the farkers who act like they would help kill a person for simply driving fast.
 
2013-02-23 05:52:32 PM  

gmaki: Jesus I never knew speeding was such a serious crime. and I never knew 125mph was such an unimaginably fast speed for most farkers. Most cars, even crappy ones can do that speed in less than a minute and any decent motorcycle can get there in seconds.... and do it all the time. Going 125 doesn't automatically result in mass carnage. It rarely does.

And it certainly doesn't mean some cop should help you die. I have no idea if the cop did I am simply referring to to all the farkers who act like they would help kill a person for simply driving fast.


Driving fast, across a long straightaway bridge.  Some farkers really like the view from their high horses.
 
2013-02-23 05:53:13 PM  

MadMattressMack: Benjamin Orr: Can we just agree on some sensible regulations on high speed motorcycles now?

Why? As this case proves, it's a problem that solves itself.


Whoosh
 
2013-02-23 05:58:08 PM  
Remember folks, E= 1/2 mv^2

The bike, if it was doing 125 mph, had about the same kinetic energy as my mid-sized sedan doing 60 mph.

Would you want my sedan to rear-end your car at 60?   No?  Then the cop probably didn't want the motorcyclist to rear-end him at 125 either.
 
2013-02-23 06:01:01 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Thai_Mai_Xhu: farkING MURDER!


Excuse me for shouting.

Justifiable homicide, at best.

99% of cops are assholes. Chances are, this cop was an asshole too.

I still have no problem with what happened, even if cop #2 was being an asshole.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-23 06:01:24 PM  

gmaki: I never knew 125mph was such an unimaginably fast speed for most farkers. Most cars, even crappy ones can do that speed in less than a minute and any decent motorcycle can get there in seconds....


Can != should.
 
2013-02-23 06:10:27 PM  

PreMortem: kvinesknows: 125mph == 180 feet per secondwith reaction time around 1/3 of a second, there aint much hope in hell of stopping a bike going that fast if someone pulled in front of you about 200 feet away

Intentionally.

I cant believe all you asshats fault the rider when a cop intentionally pulled out in front of a motorcycle with intent.

Fark all you trolls.


Ever hear the phrase intervening act?  The cop could pull out in front of the motorcycle with the express purpose of causing the motorcyclist to crash and still not be criminally liable.  Anything over 20 MPH over the speed limit is criminally reckless driving in FL.  Even if the officer intended to try to kill the motorcyclist AND his passenger, he is not guilty because the criminally reckless driving taking place AFTER the cop (even if it was only a hundred yards) pulled out would still be the proximate cause of the accident.

\Actually had a similar question on the FL bar exam back in 2001.  A take on the old shoot the guy on the way down after he was thrown off the roof where the guy who shot was shooting a warning shot at a prowler and missed aka actually hit something.
\\The guy who threw him off: guilty of attempted murder, the shooter: not guilty of a crime because the killing was not forseeable, the prowler: guilty of felony murder.
 
2013-02-23 06:16:43 PM  

Texas Gabe: To all the cop haters in this thread: Save your cop hate for THIS guy...

http://www.abqjournal.com/main/2013/02/21/news/officer-had-the-red-l ig ht.html

Ran red light, killed girl, injured her sister, lied about chasing DWI suspect.


This pisses me off so much.
 
2013-02-23 06:24:11 PM  

MikeBoomshadow: I love bullet bikes...the feeling of the trunk through my hair...


Reminds me of the old joke:

"What's the last thing that goes through a bug's mind when he hits a windshield?"

"His ass."
 
2013-02-23 06:26:48 PM  

PreMortem: vpb: PreMortem: St_Francis_P: If by "ramming", you mean "sat there and got hit":

Trooper Dawayne Maddux, 32, was parked in the bridge's inside lane near a construction zone with his vehicle's emergency lights on but was "moving to the outside lane" when his cruiser was struck by the motorcycle, the FHP said.

Williamson's Suzuki hit the back of the cruiser, and he and 24-year-old passenger Jenna Elizabeth Scott were thrown from the motorcycle, according to the FHP. Troopers are investigating.

I read that like the cop was hiding in a construction site, knew he was coming and pulled out in front of him to stop his progress. Intentional and hardly just sitting there.

Is say do an investigation and at least see if it can be verified the cop did in fact have his lights on. Speeding shouldn't be a death sentence.

So what if he did or didn't?  The motorcycle hit him, not the other way around.  It was going 125.  If you don't think being an idiot should be a death sentience talk to Darwin.

The moron killed himself.

The cop intentionally pulled out in front of him. That is who was intentional. It wasn't negligence on the rider.

What the cop did was wrong. I'd gamble his lights weren't on either.


BULLshiat. If you're doing 125mph in any vehicle on a public road, all bets are off. Anything that happens to you is your own damn fault. Rider got what he deserved. I just feel sorry for the pillion. There's a very good chance she didn't say yes to a ride on the back of a bike thinking it would result in a high speed police chase and serious accident.
 
2013-02-23 06:28:19 PM  

AloysiusSnuffleupagus: Remember folks, E= 1/2 mv^2

The bike, if it was doing 125 mph, had about the same kinetic energy as my mid-sized sedan doing 60 mph.

Would you want my sedan to rear-end your car at 60?   No?  Then the cop probably didn't want the motorcyclist to rear-end him at 125 either.


I think an analysis involving momentum (and its attendant quantities, like force and impulse) would be more useful/accurate than one involving energy.
 
2013-02-23 06:33:15 PM  

ha-ha-guy: Better the shiathead ramming into the side of a police cruiser and dying than ramming into someone's compact and inflicting serious injuries on them.

Cops didn't kill the rider, they protected someone else from having a motorcycle slam into them at 125 mph.  The other people using the road and not engaged in illegal activities have more a of a right to protection than the dickhole evading the police.


But not better than ramming into a compact car and killing the occupant who happened to be on his way to blow up an orphanage.
 
2013-02-23 06:33:49 PM  

gmaki: Jesus I never knew speeding was such a serious crime. and I never knew 125mph was such an unimaginably fast speed for most farkers. Most cars, even crappy ones can do that speed in less than a minute and any decent motorcycle can get there in seconds.... and do it all the time. Going 125 doesn't automatically result in mass carnage. It rarely does.

And it certainly doesn't mean some cop should help you die. I have no idea if the cop did I am simply referring to to all the farkers who act like they would help kill a person for simply driving fast.


At that speed the bike couldn't get out of the way of the car. He was going too fast for the road, too fast for his ability, and too fast for the surrounds. If it was a child who walked out on the road, the kid would be dead. The rider was a danger to himself, and anyone around. That's why speeding like that is a serious crime. The rider killed himself. The accident was the result of his actions.

I don't expect your small mind to understand that. It involves being able to process action/consequence relationships, and other grown-up concepts.
 
2013-02-23 06:35:24 PM  

Axis of Good Stuff: When you're travelling 184 feet per second, there isn't a lot of time to change lanes if someone moves in front of you. That's why you don't go that fast. Bad cop or not, that's an expected possibility riding like that.


Came here to say that
 
2013-02-23 06:39:39 PM  

Iplaybass: gmaki: Jesus I never knew speeding was such a serious crime. and I never knew 125mph was such an unimaginably fast speed for most farkers. Most cars, even crappy ones can do that speed in less than a minute and any decent motorcycle can get there in seconds.... and do it all the time. Going 125 doesn't automatically result in mass carnage. It rarely does.

And it certainly doesn't mean some cop should help you die. I have no idea if the cop did I am simply referring to to all the farkers who act like they would help kill a person for simply driving fast.

At that speed the bike couldn't get out of the way of the car. He was going too fast for the road, too fast for his ability, and too fast for the surrounds. If it was a child who walked out on the road, the kid would be dead. The rider was a danger to himself, and anyone around. That's why speeding like that is a serious crime. The rider killed himself. The accident was the result of his actions.

I don't expect your small mind to understand that. It involves being able to process action/consequence relationships, and other grown-up concepts.


At that speed? and he could at 75 mph? and if a kid stepped out in front of him at 75mph the kid wouldn't be dead? What is a kid doing on the bridge in the first place?
 
2013-02-23 06:54:43 PM  

FizixJunkee: AloysiusSnuffleupagus: Remember folks, E= 1/2 mv^2

The bike, if it was doing 125 mph, had about the same kinetic energy as my mid-sized sedan doing 60 mph.

Would you want my sedan to rear-end your car at 60?   No?  Then the cop probably didn't want the motorcyclist to rear-end him at 125 either.

I think an analysis involving momentum (and its attendant quantities, like force and impulse) would be more useful/accurate than one involving energy.


Impulse is useful for analysing injuries.  Seatbelt spreads out the transmission of the force over time.

Nonetheless, motor vehicle collisions are an inelastic process and the total amount of energy that the collision dissipates is still pertinent.  It represents, in part, the work done in deformation of the materials involved in the inelastic process (crumpled metal).  This is a salient point in high speed collisions.  The seatbelt and airbag do you no good if you're crushed between pieces of metal.  Cars are a lot safer today _because_ they have crumple zones designed to deform and absorb that energy.
 
2013-02-23 06:56:38 PM  
Cop Hater/Cop Fellator Thread? SWEET!

My thoughts, shamelessly stolen and repurposed from a Dave Chappel joke:

"I don't judge people based solely on their profession. Automatically jumping to conclusions about  someone because of their career is WRONG! I don't do it! I don't BELIEVE in it!

But I do believe in playing the numbers. And based on the numbers, I hate 68% of cops."
 
2013-02-23 07:00:59 PM  

gmaki: Iplaybass: gmaki: Jesus I never knew speeding was such a serious crime. and I never knew 125mph was such an unimaginably fast speed for most farkers. Most cars, even crappy ones can do that speed in less than a minute and any decent motorcycle can get there in seconds.... and do it all the time. Going 125 doesn't automatically result in mass carnage. It rarely does.

And it certainly doesn't mean some cop should help you die. I have no idea if the cop did I am simply referring to to all the farkers who act like they would help kill a person for simply driving fast.

At that speed the bike couldn't get out of the way of the car. He was going too fast for the road, too fast for his ability, and too fast for the surrounds. If it was a child who walked out on the road, the kid would be dead. The rider was a danger to himself, and anyone around. That's why speeding like that is a serious crime. The rider killed himself. The accident was the result of his actions.

I don't expect your small mind to understand that. It involves being able to process action/consequence relationships, and other grown-up concepts.

At that speed? and he could at 75 mph? and if a kid stepped out in front of him at 75mph the kid wouldn't be dead? What is a kid doing on the bridge in the first place?


You think he was only speeding on the bridge?

FTFA: "A Clearwater officer using radar in an unmarked police cruiser saw the motorcycles speeding in the 50-mph zone, and he tried to pull Keith Daniel Williamson over, she said."

I don't know about where you live, but here it's very possible that a kid could wander on to a 50mph road. At 50mph, there's every chance you could stop the vehicle in time. At 125 there isn't. It's pretty simple.
 
2013-02-23 07:02:17 PM  

ZzeusS: unlikely: He was doing 125 with a passenger?


Yes.  These farkwits do this shiat all the time in South FL.  Sorry the kid lost his live, but at least the girl will live.

I see this shiat ALL the time.  Wheelies at 80 mph, also.  Lane splitting while speeding.  shiat you would expect to see in a movie and never IRL because it's so dumb and suicidal.


I have nothing against bikers, but I saw one pull a wheelie while speeding in heavy traffic down in RI a couple years back, climbed right up my tailpipe doing it.

If I'd had to tap the brakes...which I did, a couple seconds later...he'd have been red paste, no two ways about it.

Dumbass.

Nothing about a motorcycle makes you immune to the laws of physics...Darwin and Newton are a formidable tagteam.
 
2013-02-23 07:17:56 PM  

Iplaybass: gmaki: Iplaybass: gmaki: Jesus I never knew speeding was such a serious crime. and I never knew 125mph was such an unimaginably fast speed for most farkers. Most cars, even crappy ones can do that speed in less than a minute and any decent motorcycle can get there in seconds.... and do it all the time. Going 125 doesn't automatically result in mass carnage. It rarely does.

And it certainly doesn't mean some cop should help you die. I have no idea if the cop did I am simply referring to to all the farkers who act like they would help kill a person for simply driving fast.

At that speed the bike couldn't get out of the way of the car. He was going too fast for the road, too fast for his ability, and too fast for the surrounds. If it was a child who walked out on the road, the kid would be dead. The rider was a danger to himself, and anyone around. That's why speeding like that is a serious crime. The rider killed himself. The accident was the result of his actions.

I don't expect your small mind to understand that. It involves being able to process action/consequence relationships, and other grown-up concepts.

At that speed? and he could at 75 mph? and if a kid stepped out in front of him at 75mph the kid wouldn't be dead? What is a kid doing on the bridge in the first place?

You think he was only speeding on the bridge?

FTFA: "A Clearwater officer using radar in an unmarked police cruiser saw the motorcycles speeding in the 50-mph zone, and he tried to pull Keith Daniel Williamson over, she said."

I don't know about where you live, but here it's very possible that a kid could wander on to a 50mph road. At 50mph, there's every chance you could stop the vehicle in time. At 125 there isn't. It's pretty simple.


You seem to believe that the fact that he was speeding in one area, reached 125mph at one point.. somehow means he was doing 125 at every moment of the event and at every single location. And you can't stop in time if a child steps out in front of you while you're traveling 50mph... children get hit at 25mph all the time when they jump out in front of cars.
 
2013-02-23 07:18:54 PM  

PunGent: ZzeusS: unlikely: He was doing 125 with a passenger?


Yes.  These farkwits do this shiat all the time in South FL.  Sorry the kid lost his live, but at least the girl will live.

I see this shiat ALL the time.  Wheelies at 80 mph, also.  Lane splitting while speeding.  shiat you would expect to see in a movie and never IRL because it's so dumb and suicidal.

I have nothing against bikers, but I saw one pull a wheelie while speeding in heavy traffic down in RI a couple years back, climbed right up my tailpipe doing it.

If I'd had to tap the brakes...which I did, a couple seconds later...he'd have been red paste, no two ways about it.

Dumbass.

Nothing about a motorcycle makes you immune to the laws of physics...Darwin and Newton are a formidable tagteam.


You left out Freud.
 
2013-02-23 07:26:29 PM  

PreMortem: kvinesknows: 125mph == 180 feet per secondwith reaction time around 1/3 of a second, there aint much hope in hell of stopping a bike going that fast if someone pulled in front of you about 200 feet away

Intentionally.

I cant believe all you asshats fault the rider when a cop intentionally pulled out in front of a motorcycle with intent.

Fark all you trolls.

no fan of cops here, also a biker myself...i have had knownothing 25 year olds on bikes almost hit me and my bike as they blast by at whothefarknowshow fast even with my ass doing 90mph. These fooks have NO idea what they are doing, and while i thinks 68% of cops are assholes, i KNOW 95% of 25 year olds on speed bikes are unqualified douchenozzles.  This dude was gonna die sooner or later.  too bad about the passenger, that is sad, but the MC driver hurt her, no one else...the driver was without doubt an unqualified asshole, he shoulda sucked it up and thought of his girl whose life now hangs...the cop may or may not have been an asshole, that is TBD.
 
2013-02-23 07:29:24 PM  
Troopers WILL put you inta a wall in order to protect innocent drivers. the rider was being a "DIRK". Now
he's foever limp.
 
2013-02-23 07:38:08 PM  

PreMortem: I cant believe all you asshats fault the rider when a cop intentionally pulled out in front of a motorcycle with intent.


125mph on a public road in the US (non-German Autobahn)

125.
He deserves whatever happens.

/even if you can prove the intent of the cop
//passenger, not so much
 
2013-02-23 07:43:47 PM  

orclover: PunGent: ZzeusS: unlikely: He was doing 125 with a passenger?


Yes.  These farkwits do this shiat all the time in South FL.  Sorry the kid lost his live, but at least the girl will live.

I see this shiat ALL the time.  Wheelies at 80 mph, also.  Lane splitting while speeding.  shiat you would expect to see in a movie and never IRL because it's so dumb and suicidal.

I have nothing against bikers, but I saw one pull a wheelie while speeding in heavy traffic down in RI a couple years back, climbed right up my tailpipe doing it.

If I'd had to tap the brakes...which I did, a couple seconds later...he'd have been red paste, no two ways about it.

Dumbass.

Nothing about a motorcycle makes you immune to the laws of physics...Darwin and Newton are a formidable tagteam.

You left out Freud.


Guy was growing in my rearview like a bad dream, since all I could see was his farking undercarriage.

If I'd panicked, tapped the brakes...I'd have been out some serious body work.

He'd have been donating his organs...
 
2013-02-23 07:43:59 PM  

PreMortem: vpb: PreMortem: St_Francis_P: If by "ramming", you mean "sat there and got hit":

Trooper Dawayne Maddux, 32, was parked in the bridge's inside lane near a construction zone with his vehicle's emergency lights on but was "moving to the outside lane" when his cruiser was struck by the motorcycle, the FHP said.

Williamson's Suzuki hit the back of the cruiser, and he and 24-year-old passenger Jenna Elizabeth Scott were thrown from the motorcycle, according to the FHP. Troopers are investigating.

I read that like the cop was hiding in a construction site, knew he was coming and pulled out in front of him to stop his progress. Intentional and hardly just sitting there.

Is say do an investigation and at least see if it can be verified the cop did in fact have his lights on. Speeding shouldn't be a death sentence.

So what if he did or didn't?  The motorcycle hit him, not the other way around.  It was going 125.  If you don't think being an idiot should be a death sentience talk to Darwin.

The moron killed himself.

The cop intentionally pulled out in front of him. That is who was intentional. It wasn't negligence on the rider.

What the cop did was wrong. I'd gamble his lights weren't on either.



Grow up.  Not all cops are evil aholes.  This cop was pulling out into traffic, saw no one immediately behind him (not expecting someone to be traveling at 125 mph).
 
2013-02-23 08:13:56 PM  

PreMortem: CruiserTwelve: PreMortem: Cops have radios. He knew he was coming.

It was a city cop that called off the chase and a state cop that got it. They're not on the same radio frequency.

You are so wrong.


As someone rather familiar with how local precinct/state trooper dispatch works, He is so right. City/County Dispatch and State dispatch are separate offices, unless you live in a small state (i.e., NOT Florida) where the cost of the State Patrol maintaining their own radio center is too high to justify keeping is separate. The local dispatcher can radio the State Trooper (in the event mutual aide is called for), but is more than likely not monitoring their channels or even talking with them on a daily basis. They have their own operators.

Rider was running from the cops, in a construction zone. I fail to see where the authorities are the least bit at fault here.
 
2013-02-23 08:45:04 PM  
I'll go one further and say if the cop did it on purpose KUDOS FOR HIM.

At 125 you hit a pedestrian or another bike or even a small car, you're going to kill someone. It's one thing on the big wide-open, but this guy was doing this in a vaguely urban (50 mph limit) setting? And the fact that he managed to T-Bone this cop kinda says he wasn't going to be avoiding whatever got in his way. That cop stopped a dangerous maniac who was gonna hurt someone else if he wasn't stopped.

All you people going "that cop is a murderer" ... screw that. Guy was endangering everyone.
 
2013-02-23 09:04:47 PM  
Meanwhile, in Daytona

cdn0.sbnation.com
 
2013-02-23 09:46:16 PM  
When a hijacked plane is being used as a missile, the right thing to do is bring it down in an unpopulated area, so that lives of more people won't be put at risk.

I don't see what should be any different when a motorcycle is being used as a missile.
 
2013-02-23 10:30:59 PM  

PreMortem: CruiserTwelve: PreMortem: Cops have radios. He knew he was coming.

It was a city cop that called off the chase and a state cop that got it. They're not on the same radio frequency.

You are so wrong.


Really? You think all cops are on the same frequency? They're not. Even in most larger cities the cops within that city use different frequencies.

Even if the city cop's dispatch relayed the information to the state cops, that would never get done in time for the state cop to get the information. The bike was going 125 mph.
 
2013-02-23 10:50:03 PM  
Let's just hope Jenna lives and doesn't date any more assholes.
 
2013-02-23 11:07:58 PM  
Who knew speeding carried the death penalty?
 
2013-02-23 11:09:07 PM  

CruiserTwelve: PreMortem: CruiserTwelve: PreMortem: Cops have radios. He knew he was coming.

It was a city cop that called off the chase and a state cop that got it. They're not on the same radio frequency.

You are so wrong.

Really? You think all cops are on the same frequency? They're not. Even in most larger cities the cops within that city use different frequencies.

Even if the city cop's dispatch relayed the information to the state cops, that would never get done in time for the state cop to get the information. The bike was going 125 mph.




The bike was clocked at 125 at one point. TFA does not say how fast he was going on the bridge, or when the collision happened. It could have been faster, it could have been slower. And with a passenger on the back, you don't think they should have been extra careful to avoid doing anything that might have caused a crash? She was basically a hostage at that point. They likely had the guy's plate, they would have caught him eventually. This sort of outcome is why they do not use spike strips with motorcycles.
 
2013-02-23 11:29:57 PM  
lot of heartless farks seem to forget that many young guys are full of piss & vinegar and think they are bulletproof. this kid rolled the dice and lost. that girl will be in a hospital & therapy for who knows how long. that lad was someones son. what the fu(k is wrong with some of you. bunch of sick fu(king twists with really sad personal values. sorry your parents didn't raise you better.
 
2013-02-23 11:39:34 PM  

PreMortem: CruiserTwelve: PreMortem: Cops have radios. He knew he was coming.

It was a city cop that called off the chase and a state cop that got it. They're not on the same radio frequency.

You are so wrong.


Is he?  My squad car radio can't even pick up the state police radio frequency.  The only way I know what they're doing in my city is if they switch over to our dispatch channel and let our dispatchers know what's going on.  In fact, the state police dispatch location is 2 counties away.  If a Trooper got into a pursuit in my city, it'd be at least 5-6 minutes before any of us knew what was going on.
 
2013-02-23 11:52:18 PM  

St_Francis_P: If by "ramming", you mean "sat there and got hit":

Trooper Dawayne Maddux, 32, was parked in the bridge's inside lane near a construction zone with his vehicle's emergency lights on but was "moving to the outside lane" when his cruiser was struck by the motorcycle, the FHP said.

Williamson's Suzuki hit the back of the cruiser, and he and 24-year-old passenger Jenna Elizabeth Scott were thrown from the motorcycle, according to the FHP. Troopers are investigating.


If by "sat there and got hit", you mean "roadblocked and killed".
 
2013-02-24 12:18:07 AM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: PreMortem: CruiserTwelve: PreMortem: Cops have radios. He knew he was coming.

It was a city cop that called off the chase and a state cop that got it. They're not on the same radio frequency.

You are so wrong.

Is he?  My squad car radio can't even pick up the state police radio frequency.  The only way I know what they're doing in my city is if they switch over to our dispatch channel and let our dispatchers know what's going on.  In fact, the state police dispatch location is 2 counties away.  If a Trooper got into a pursuit in my city, it'd be at least 5-6 minutes before any of us knew what was going on.


Well, that's just fantastic, isn't it?

Do you compose telegrams the day after offering one another apologies for your lapses in etiquette by failing to send in your personal card the day prior?
 
2013-02-24 12:21:49 AM  
Look, I don't like cops- at all- but this twat killed himself.
 
2013-02-24 12:22:52 AM  

boobsrgood: Who knew speeding carried the death penalty?



That kind of stupidity is always a capital offense.
 
2013-02-24 12:24:54 AM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: Look, I don't like cops- at all- but this twat killed himself.


Too bad about his passenger, but she probably deserved it.
 
2013-02-24 12:40:32 AM  
BuckTurgidson: BuckTurgidson:

If by "sat there and got hit", you mean "roadblocked and killed".

Too bad about his passenger, but she probably deserved it.


Do you have multiple personalities?
 
2013-02-24 12:41:02 AM  

irgunner: Anyone fleeing police puts innocent lives in danger. If the end result is only the perps death, it is no ones fault but the perps. Anyone who disagrees with this is wrong.


No. You're incorrect. There are situations where it is not the fault of the perp.
 
2013-02-24 12:44:44 AM  

MNguy: Do you have multiple personalities?


Comprende le sarcasme?
 
2013-02-24 12:46:45 AM  

poot_rootbeer: When a hijacked plane is being used as a missile, the right thing to do is bring it down in an unpopulated area, so that lives of more people won't be put at risk.

I don't see what should be any different when a motorcycle is being used as a missile.


That's an irrelevant point- the motorcycle wasn't being used as a missile, and nothing you read would lead you to that conclusion.
 
2013-02-24 12:52:54 AM  

BuckTurgidson: MNguy: Do you have multiple personalities?

Comprende le sarcasme?


Si, claro. Pero esta hora mucho Farkeros es preumable barracho. Posible tiende dos personas.  No se.  Sta bien.
 
2013-02-24 01:09:26 AM  

MNguy: barracho


Fair cop.
 
2013-02-24 02:14:23 AM  
Heh... That was dumb.
 
2013-02-24 02:18:07 AM  

gmaki: Iplaybass: gmaki: Iplaybass: gmaki: Jesus I never knew speeding was such a serious crime. and I never knew 125mph was such an unimaginably fast speed for most farkers. Most cars, even crappy ones can do that speed in less than a minute and any decent motorcycle can get there in seconds.... and do it all the time. Going 125 doesn't automatically result in mass carnage. It rarely does.

And it certainly doesn't mean some cop should help you die. I have no idea if the cop did I am simply referring to to all the farkers who act like they would help kill a person for simply driving fast.

At that speed the bike couldn't get out of the way of the car. He was going too fast for the road, too fast for his ability, and too fast for the surrounds. If it was a child who walked out on the road, the kid would be dead. The rider was a danger to himself, and anyone around. That's why speeding like that is a serious crime. The rider killed himself. The accident was the result of his actions.

I don't expect your small mind to understand that. It involves being able to process action/consequence relationships, and other grown-up concepts.

At that speed? and he could at 75 mph? and if a kid stepped out in front of him at 75mph the kid wouldn't be dead? What is a kid doing on the bridge in the first place?

You think he was only speeding on the bridge?

FTFA: "A Clearwater officer using radar in an unmarked police cruiser saw the motorcycles speeding in the 50-mph zone, and he tried to pull Keith Daniel Williamson over, she said."

I don't know about where you live, but here it's very possible that a kid could wander on to a 50mph road. At 50mph, there's every chance you could stop the vehicle in time. At 125 there isn't. It's pretty simple.

You seem to believe that the fact that he was speeding in one area, reached 125mph at one point.. somehow means he was doing 125 at every moment of the event and at every single location. And you can't stop in time if a child steps out in front ...


If you're stupid enough to think he wasn't going obscenely fast when he first got clocked in the 50 zone, then you're dumber than I thought.
 
2013-02-24 02:32:31 AM  

KrispyKritter: lot of heartless farks seem to forget that many young guys are full of piss & vinegar and think they are bulletproof. this kid rolled the dice and lost. that girl will be in a hospital & therapy for who knows how long. that lad was someones son. what the fu(k is wrong with some of you. bunch of sick fu(king twists with really sad personal values. sorry your parents didn't raise you better.


I am alive and that smear on the asphalt is not.  Seems pretty damn clear that my parents did a better job than his did.
 
2013-02-24 02:55:19 AM  

Mock26: KrispyKritter: lot of heartless farks seem to forget that many young guys are full of piss & vinegar and think they are bulletproof. this kid rolled the dice and lost. that girl will be in a hospital & therapy for who knows how long. that lad was someones son. what the fu(k is wrong with some of you. bunch of sick fu(king twists with really sad personal values. sorry your parents didn't raise you better.

I am alive and that smear on the asphalt is not.  Seems pretty damn clear that my parents did a better job than his did.


Gosh, you're manly!
 
2013-02-24 02:57:03 AM  

Iplaybass: If you're stupid enough to think he wasn't going obscenely fast when he first got clocked in the 50 zone, then you're dumber than I thought.


It's really damned easy to plot these things on GoogleMaps these days.

We await your evidence, Mr. Man ....
 
2013-02-24 03:36:02 AM  

CruiserTwelve: Really? You think all cops are on the same frequency? They're not. Even in most larger cities the cops within that city use different frequencies.

Even if the city cop's dispatch relayed the information to the state cops, that would never get done in time for the state cop to get the information. The bike was going 125 mph.


A winner is you

That's why I think the state cop was just watching the construction area and didn't even know the bike was coming.
 
2013-02-24 04:17:42 AM  
This incident fills me with regrets.
The chief of them being,  John Boehner wasn't riding on the handlebars at the time.
 
2013-02-24 05:53:09 AM  

PreMortem: CruiserTwelve: PreMortem: Cops have radios. He knew he was coming.

It was a city cop that called off the chase and a state cop that got it. They're not on the same radio frequency.

You are so wrong.


OH! Can I jump on the "You're an idiot" bandwagon? Because you are.

No. Cops are not all on the same frequency. They're not even all on the same radio systems unless there's a disaster operation going down, and even those communications are coordinated through a single point.

In my jurisdiction alone: Shelby County Sheriff has 15 different radio frequencies in use at any given time.
Memphis Police have nearly 25, with each different preceint on a different radio frequency than the other, and each special division having their own radio frequency.
Tennessee Highway Patrol have their own regional frequency
Tennessee Game Wardens have their own
Bartlett, Germantown, Collierville, and Millington ALL have different radio nets.
 
2013-02-24 08:38:04 AM  
So moron puts the general public at risk, then people cry foul when Darwin takes over and does what Darwin should do when someone is goign 125+ with a passenger on the back?
 
2013-02-24 10:46:52 AM  

jgetz: So moron puts the general public at risk, then people cry foul when Darwin takes over and does what Darwin should do when someone is goign 125+ with a passenger on the back?


I think it's because Darwin chose to use a law-enforcement vehicle, and the public's general distrust of such organizations for the very visible misdeeds of the bad apples in the lot.

Then again, it's more news worthy (or sensational) when an officer is busted for running a private prostitution ring, as opposed to the officer that has uneventful beats where the biggest thing is the half hour he spent informing old Mrs. Peaboddy that the damage to her garden was from stray dogs and not her asian-decent neighbor trying to signal to Emperor Hirohito.
 
2013-02-24 11:14:38 AM  

Saberus Terras: jgetz: So moron puts the general public at risk, then people cry foul when Darwin takes over and does what Darwin should do when someone is goign 125+ with a passenger on the back?

I think it's because Darwin chose to use a law-enforcement vehicle, and the public's general distrust of such organizations for the very visible misdeeds of the bad apples in the lot.



I have no idea what you're talking about the public loves me
 
2013-02-24 01:17:53 PM  

BuckTurgidson: Mock26: KrispyKritter: lot of heartless farks seem to forget that many young guys are full of piss & vinegar and think they are bulletproof. this kid rolled the dice and lost. that girl will be in a hospital & therapy for who knows how long. that lad was someones son. what the fu(k is wrong with some of you. bunch of sick fu(king twists with really sad personal values. sorry your parents didn't raise you better.

I am alive and that smear on the asphalt is not.  Seems pretty damn clear that my parents did a better job than his did.

Gosh, you're manly!


Manly?  Far from it.
Smarter than that road stain?  You betcha!
 
2013-02-24 03:12:43 PM  

AloysiusSnuffleupagus: Remember folks, E= 1/2 mv^2

The bike, if it was doing 125 mph, had about the same kinetic energy as my mid-sized sedan doing 60 mph.

Would you want my sedan to rear-end your car at 60?   No?  Then the cop probably didn't want the motorcyclist to rear-end him at 125 either.


Your math is off by at least one order of magnitude.  That bike, even with 2 riders weights a lot less than half what your "mid-sized" sedan does.  Go look at the door sticker.  I think you'll be shocked.

Otherwise, your point is valid, even though your assumptions are absurd.
 
2013-02-24 03:14:58 PM  

BronyMedic: PreMortem: CruiserTwelve: PreMortem: Cops have radios. He knew he was coming.

It was a city cop that called off the chase and a state cop that got it. They're not on the same radio frequency.

You are so wrong.

OH! Can I jump on the "You're an idiot" bandwagon? Because you are.

No. Cops are not all on the same frequency. They're not even all on the same radio systems unless there's a disaster operation going down, and even those communications are coordinated through a single point.

In my jurisdiction alone: Shelby County Sheriff has 15 different radio frequencies in use at any given time.
Memphis Police have nearly 25, with each different preceint on a different radio frequency than the other, and each special division having their own radio frequency.
Tennessee Highway Patrol have their own regional frequency
Tennessee Game Wardens have their own
Bartlett, Germantown, Collierville, and Millington ALL have different radio nets.


My turn.

In the county I live, we have 5 police forces, including an OSP office.  (oregon state patrol)

They use a plethora of radios and phones.  They also have a central dispatch office and they ALWAYS know when there is a report of a fast moving vehicle, anywhere in the county.

You are so ignorant.
 
2013-02-24 05:27:16 PM  

Kahabut: AloysiusSnuffleupagus: Remember folks, E= 1/2 mv^2

The bike, if it was doing 125 mph, had about the same kinetic energy as my mid-sized sedan doing 60 mph.

Would you want my sedan to rear-end your car at 60?   No?  Then the cop probably didn't want the motorcyclist to rear-end him at 125 either.

Your math is off by at least one order of magnitude.  That bike, even with 2 riders weights a lot less than half what your "mid-sized" sedan does.  Go look at the door sticker.  I think you'll be shocked.

Otherwise, your point is valid, even though your assumptions are absurd.


lrn2 math. the velocity is what matters most, not the mass.

Ek=1/2 mv2
my motorcycle weighs 400 pounds. I weigh 175 pounds with my riding gear. A petite little lady weighs 125 pounds with riding gear. total mass for the motorcycle with passengers = 700 pounds.
3000 pounds is a typical weight for a mid-sized sedan, add in another 300 pounds for the same passengers/gear for a total of 3300.

0.5 * 3300 * 602 = 5,940,000
0.5 * 700 * 1252 = 5,468,750

hardly an "order of magnitude" different.
 
2013-02-24 06:10:15 PM  
Yeah, squaring the velocity makes a difference. There's a reason why ball players don't use the heaviest hardwood bat that they can.
 
2013-02-24 06:33:33 PM  

Kahabut: My turn.

In the county I live, we have 5 police forces, including an OSP office.  (oregon state patrol)

They use a plethora of radios and phones.  They also have a central dispatch office and they ALWAYS know when there is a report of a fast moving vehicle, anywhere in the county.

You are so ignorant.


Pinellas County, Florida has nearly a million people. Pinellas County has a lot more than 5 police forces, and they do not have a central dispatch system.

You really shouldn't label people as ignorant when you have an obvious reading comprehension problem, or you think that every municipality operation is the same. For starters, you didn't even RTFA. The police car he hit was working a protection detail for a construction crew. They assign a law enforcement officer to block the lane off for their protection.
 
2013-02-24 07:11:36 PM  

PreMortem: St_Francis_P: If by "ramming", you mean "sat there and got hit":

Trooper Dawayne Maddux, 32, was parked in the bridge's inside lane near a construction zone with his vehicle's emergency lights on but was "moving to the outside lane" when his cruiser was struck by the motorcycle, the FHP said.

Williamson's Suzuki hit the back of the cruiser, and he and 24-year-old passenger Jenna Elizabeth Scott were thrown from the motorcycle, according to the FHP. Troopers are investigating.

I read that like the cop was hiding in a construction site, knew he was coming and pulled out in front of him to stop his progress. Intentional and hardly just sitting there.

Is say do an investigation and at least see if it can be verified the cop did in fact have his lights on. Speeding shouldn't be a death sentence.


But is wasn't, was it. If anything it was suicide by cop.
 
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