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2013-02-23 11:29:57 PM
lot of heartless farks seem to forget that many young guys are full of piss & vinegar and think they are bulletproof. this kid rolled the dice and lost. that girl will be in a hospital & therapy for who knows how long. that lad was someones son. what the fu(k is wrong with some of you. bunch of sick fu(king twists with really sad personal values. sorry your parents didn't raise you better.
 
2013-02-23 11:39:34 PM

PreMortem: CruiserTwelve: PreMortem: Cops have radios. He knew he was coming.

It was a city cop that called off the chase and a state cop that got it. They're not on the same radio frequency.

You are so wrong.


Is he?  My squad car radio can't even pick up the state police radio frequency.  The only way I know what they're doing in my city is if they switch over to our dispatch channel and let our dispatchers know what's going on.  In fact, the state police dispatch location is 2 counties away.  If a Trooper got into a pursuit in my city, it'd be at least 5-6 minutes before any of us knew what was going on.
 
2013-02-23 11:52:18 PM

St_Francis_P: If by "ramming", you mean "sat there and got hit":

Trooper Dawayne Maddux, 32, was parked in the bridge's inside lane near a construction zone with his vehicle's emergency lights on but was "moving to the outside lane" when his cruiser was struck by the motorcycle, the FHP said.

Williamson's Suzuki hit the back of the cruiser, and he and 24-year-old passenger Jenna Elizabeth Scott were thrown from the motorcycle, according to the FHP. Troopers are investigating.


If by "sat there and got hit", you mean "roadblocked and killed".
 
2013-02-24 12:18:07 AM

HideAndGoFarkYourself: PreMortem: CruiserTwelve: PreMortem: Cops have radios. He knew he was coming.

It was a city cop that called off the chase and a state cop that got it. They're not on the same radio frequency.

You are so wrong.

Is he?  My squad car radio can't even pick up the state police radio frequency.  The only way I know what they're doing in my city is if they switch over to our dispatch channel and let our dispatchers know what's going on.  In fact, the state police dispatch location is 2 counties away.  If a Trooper got into a pursuit in my city, it'd be at least 5-6 minutes before any of us knew what was going on.


Well, that's just fantastic, isn't it?

Do you compose telegrams the day after offering one another apologies for your lapses in etiquette by failing to send in your personal card the day prior?
 
2013-02-24 12:21:49 AM
Look, I don't like cops- at all- but this twat killed himself.
 
2013-02-24 12:22:52 AM

boobsrgood: Who knew speeding carried the death penalty?



That kind of stupidity is always a capital offense.
 
2013-02-24 12:24:54 AM

Your Average Witty Fark User: Look, I don't like cops- at all- but this twat killed himself.


Too bad about his passenger, but she probably deserved it.
 
2013-02-24 12:40:32 AM
BuckTurgidson: BuckTurgidson:

If by "sat there and got hit", you mean "roadblocked and killed".

Too bad about his passenger, but she probably deserved it.


Do you have multiple personalities?
 
2013-02-24 12:41:02 AM

irgunner: Anyone fleeing police puts innocent lives in danger. If the end result is only the perps death, it is no ones fault but the perps. Anyone who disagrees with this is wrong.


No. You're incorrect. There are situations where it is not the fault of the perp.
 
2013-02-24 12:44:44 AM

MNguy: Do you have multiple personalities?


Comprende le sarcasme?
 
2013-02-24 12:46:45 AM

poot_rootbeer: When a hijacked plane is being used as a missile, the right thing to do is bring it down in an unpopulated area, so that lives of more people won't be put at risk.

I don't see what should be any different when a motorcycle is being used as a missile.


That's an irrelevant point- the motorcycle wasn't being used as a missile, and nothing you read would lead you to that conclusion.
 
2013-02-24 12:52:54 AM

BuckTurgidson: MNguy: Do you have multiple personalities?

Comprende le sarcasme?


Si, claro. Pero esta hora mucho Farkeros es preumable barracho. Posible tiende dos personas.  No se.  Sta bien.
 
2013-02-24 01:09:26 AM

MNguy: barracho


Fair cop.
 
2013-02-24 02:14:23 AM
Heh... That was dumb.
 
2013-02-24 02:18:07 AM

gmaki: Iplaybass: gmaki: Iplaybass: gmaki: Jesus I never knew speeding was such a serious crime. and I never knew 125mph was such an unimaginably fast speed for most farkers. Most cars, even crappy ones can do that speed in less than a minute and any decent motorcycle can get there in seconds.... and do it all the time. Going 125 doesn't automatically result in mass carnage. It rarely does.

And it certainly doesn't mean some cop should help you die. I have no idea if the cop did I am simply referring to to all the farkers who act like they would help kill a person for simply driving fast.

At that speed the bike couldn't get out of the way of the car. He was going too fast for the road, too fast for his ability, and too fast for the surrounds. If it was a child who walked out on the road, the kid would be dead. The rider was a danger to himself, and anyone around. That's why speeding like that is a serious crime. The rider killed himself. The accident was the result of his actions.

I don't expect your small mind to understand that. It involves being able to process action/consequence relationships, and other grown-up concepts.

At that speed? and he could at 75 mph? and if a kid stepped out in front of him at 75mph the kid wouldn't be dead? What is a kid doing on the bridge in the first place?

You think he was only speeding on the bridge?

FTFA: "A Clearwater officer using radar in an unmarked police cruiser saw the motorcycles speeding in the 50-mph zone, and he tried to pull Keith Daniel Williamson over, she said."

I don't know about where you live, but here it's very possible that a kid could wander on to a 50mph road. At 50mph, there's every chance you could stop the vehicle in time. At 125 there isn't. It's pretty simple.

You seem to believe that the fact that he was speeding in one area, reached 125mph at one point.. somehow means he was doing 125 at every moment of the event and at every single location. And you can't stop in time if a child steps out in front ...


If you're stupid enough to think he wasn't going obscenely fast when he first got clocked in the 50 zone, then you're dumber than I thought.
 
2013-02-24 02:32:31 AM

KrispyKritter: lot of heartless farks seem to forget that many young guys are full of piss & vinegar and think they are bulletproof. this kid rolled the dice and lost. that girl will be in a hospital & therapy for who knows how long. that lad was someones son. what the fu(k is wrong with some of you. bunch of sick fu(king twists with really sad personal values. sorry your parents didn't raise you better.


I am alive and that smear on the asphalt is not.  Seems pretty damn clear that my parents did a better job than his did.
 
2013-02-24 02:55:19 AM

Mock26: KrispyKritter: lot of heartless farks seem to forget that many young guys are full of piss & vinegar and think they are bulletproof. this kid rolled the dice and lost. that girl will be in a hospital & therapy for who knows how long. that lad was someones son. what the fu(k is wrong with some of you. bunch of sick fu(king twists with really sad personal values. sorry your parents didn't raise you better.

I am alive and that smear on the asphalt is not.  Seems pretty damn clear that my parents did a better job than his did.


Gosh, you're manly!
 
2013-02-24 02:57:03 AM

Iplaybass: If you're stupid enough to think he wasn't going obscenely fast when he first got clocked in the 50 zone, then you're dumber than I thought.


It's really damned easy to plot these things on GoogleMaps these days.

We await your evidence, Mr. Man ....
 
2013-02-24 03:36:02 AM

CruiserTwelve: Really? You think all cops are on the same frequency? They're not. Even in most larger cities the cops within that city use different frequencies.

Even if the city cop's dispatch relayed the information to the state cops, that would never get done in time for the state cop to get the information. The bike was going 125 mph.


A winner is you

That's why I think the state cop was just watching the construction area and didn't even know the bike was coming.
 
2013-02-24 04:17:42 AM
This incident fills me with regrets.
The chief of them being,  John Boehner wasn't riding on the handlebars at the time.
 
2013-02-24 05:53:09 AM

PreMortem: CruiserTwelve: PreMortem: Cops have radios. He knew he was coming.

It was a city cop that called off the chase and a state cop that got it. They're not on the same radio frequency.

You are so wrong.


OH! Can I jump on the "You're an idiot" bandwagon? Because you are.

No. Cops are not all on the same frequency. They're not even all on the same radio systems unless there's a disaster operation going down, and even those communications are coordinated through a single point.

In my jurisdiction alone: Shelby County Sheriff has 15 different radio frequencies in use at any given time.
Memphis Police have nearly 25, with each different preceint on a different radio frequency than the other, and each special division having their own radio frequency.
Tennessee Highway Patrol have their own regional frequency
Tennessee Game Wardens have their own
Bartlett, Germantown, Collierville, and Millington ALL have different radio nets.
 
2013-02-24 08:38:04 AM
So moron puts the general public at risk, then people cry foul when Darwin takes over and does what Darwin should do when someone is goign 125+ with a passenger on the back?
 
2013-02-24 10:46:52 AM

jgetz: So moron puts the general public at risk, then people cry foul when Darwin takes over and does what Darwin should do when someone is goign 125+ with a passenger on the back?


I think it's because Darwin chose to use a law-enforcement vehicle, and the public's general distrust of such organizations for the very visible misdeeds of the bad apples in the lot.

Then again, it's more news worthy (or sensational) when an officer is busted for running a private prostitution ring, as opposed to the officer that has uneventful beats where the biggest thing is the half hour he spent informing old Mrs. Peaboddy that the damage to her garden was from stray dogs and not her asian-decent neighbor trying to signal to Emperor Hirohito.
 
2013-02-24 11:14:38 AM

Saberus Terras: jgetz: So moron puts the general public at risk, then people cry foul when Darwin takes over and does what Darwin should do when someone is goign 125+ with a passenger on the back?

I think it's because Darwin chose to use a law-enforcement vehicle, and the public's general distrust of such organizations for the very visible misdeeds of the bad apples in the lot.



I have no idea what you're talking about the public loves me
 
2013-02-24 01:17:53 PM

BuckTurgidson: Mock26: KrispyKritter: lot of heartless farks seem to forget that many young guys are full of piss & vinegar and think they are bulletproof. this kid rolled the dice and lost. that girl will be in a hospital & therapy for who knows how long. that lad was someones son. what the fu(k is wrong with some of you. bunch of sick fu(king twists with really sad personal values. sorry your parents didn't raise you better.

I am alive and that smear on the asphalt is not.  Seems pretty damn clear that my parents did a better job than his did.

Gosh, you're manly!


Manly?  Far from it.
Smarter than that road stain?  You betcha!
 
2013-02-24 03:12:43 PM

AloysiusSnuffleupagus: Remember folks, E= 1/2 mv^2

The bike, if it was doing 125 mph, had about the same kinetic energy as my mid-sized sedan doing 60 mph.

Would you want my sedan to rear-end your car at 60?   No?  Then the cop probably didn't want the motorcyclist to rear-end him at 125 either.


Your math is off by at least one order of magnitude.  That bike, even with 2 riders weights a lot less than half what your "mid-sized" sedan does.  Go look at the door sticker.  I think you'll be shocked.

Otherwise, your point is valid, even though your assumptions are absurd.
 
2013-02-24 03:14:58 PM

BronyMedic: PreMortem: CruiserTwelve: PreMortem: Cops have radios. He knew he was coming.

It was a city cop that called off the chase and a state cop that got it. They're not on the same radio frequency.

You are so wrong.

OH! Can I jump on the "You're an idiot" bandwagon? Because you are.

No. Cops are not all on the same frequency. They're not even all on the same radio systems unless there's a disaster operation going down, and even those communications are coordinated through a single point.

In my jurisdiction alone: Shelby County Sheriff has 15 different radio frequencies in use at any given time.
Memphis Police have nearly 25, with each different preceint on a different radio frequency than the other, and each special division having their own radio frequency.
Tennessee Highway Patrol have their own regional frequency
Tennessee Game Wardens have their own
Bartlett, Germantown, Collierville, and Millington ALL have different radio nets.


My turn.

In the county I live, we have 5 police forces, including an OSP office.  (oregon state patrol)

They use a plethora of radios and phones.  They also have a central dispatch office and they ALWAYS know when there is a report of a fast moving vehicle, anywhere in the county.

You are so ignorant.
 
2013-02-24 05:27:16 PM

Kahabut: AloysiusSnuffleupagus: Remember folks, E= 1/2 mv^2

The bike, if it was doing 125 mph, had about the same kinetic energy as my mid-sized sedan doing 60 mph.

Would you want my sedan to rear-end your car at 60?   No?  Then the cop probably didn't want the motorcyclist to rear-end him at 125 either.

Your math is off by at least one order of magnitude.  That bike, even with 2 riders weights a lot less than half what your "mid-sized" sedan does.  Go look at the door sticker.  I think you'll be shocked.

Otherwise, your point is valid, even though your assumptions are absurd.


lrn2 math. the velocity is what matters most, not the mass.

Ek=1/2 mv2
my motorcycle weighs 400 pounds. I weigh 175 pounds with my riding gear. A petite little lady weighs 125 pounds with riding gear. total mass for the motorcycle with passengers = 700 pounds.
3000 pounds is a typical weight for a mid-sized sedan, add in another 300 pounds for the same passengers/gear for a total of 3300.

0.5 * 3300 * 602 = 5,940,000
0.5 * 700 * 1252 = 5,468,750

hardly an "order of magnitude" different.
 
2013-02-24 06:10:15 PM
Yeah, squaring the velocity makes a difference. There's a reason why ball players don't use the heaviest hardwood bat that they can.
 
2013-02-24 06:33:33 PM

Kahabut: My turn.

In the county I live, we have 5 police forces, including an OSP office.  (oregon state patrol)

They use a plethora of radios and phones.  They also have a central dispatch office and they ALWAYS know when there is a report of a fast moving vehicle, anywhere in the county.

You are so ignorant.


Pinellas County, Florida has nearly a million people. Pinellas County has a lot more than 5 police forces, and they do not have a central dispatch system.

You really shouldn't label people as ignorant when you have an obvious reading comprehension problem, or you think that every municipality operation is the same. For starters, you didn't even RTFA. The police car he hit was working a protection detail for a construction crew. They assign a law enforcement officer to block the lane off for their protection.
 
2013-02-24 07:11:36 PM

PreMortem: St_Francis_P: If by "ramming", you mean "sat there and got hit":

Trooper Dawayne Maddux, 32, was parked in the bridge's inside lane near a construction zone with his vehicle's emergency lights on but was "moving to the outside lane" when his cruiser was struck by the motorcycle, the FHP said.

Williamson's Suzuki hit the back of the cruiser, and he and 24-year-old passenger Jenna Elizabeth Scott were thrown from the motorcycle, according to the FHP. Troopers are investigating.

I read that like the cop was hiding in a construction site, knew he was coming and pulled out in front of him to stop his progress. Intentional and hardly just sitting there.

Is say do an investigation and at least see if it can be verified the cop did in fact have his lights on. Speeding shouldn't be a death sentence.


But is wasn't, was it. If anything it was suicide by cop.
 
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