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2013-02-23 11:29:52 AM

T-Boy: Is it a bad guy on a homicidal rampage or a NRA-certified good guy on a homicidal rampage post birth abortion spree?

 for me, fixed it is

 
2013-02-23 11:30:00 AM

Uisce Beatha: Rozinante: Uisce Beatha: Rozinante: potterydove: You know what defeats standard body armor?

[www.aimsurplus.com image 480x312]

Define "standard". Most soft vests can be defeated by any rifle. Most plates can stop those. There's only a tiny steel tip.

Well, if you want to stick to 5.56 and have penetration, even through body armor, go with "barrier blind" ammo.

That should be even less effective.

It's not.  Not by a long shot.  My old job ran the testing for it.  Body Armor, even with plates, means very little to SOST ammo.


Cool. I've held a plate with 5 .30 AP bullets lodged in it. I can't see these doing better, but keeping the point forward counts for a lot.
 
2013-02-23 11:30:36 AM

IronTom: I bet it's an AK-47.


no, it's a glock ar-47. duh.
 
2013-02-23 11:31:47 AM

misanthropologist: Benjamin Orr: misanthropologist: Benjamin Orr: Slate is crowd sourcing their data

Is that a bad thing?

As long as you realize there will be some level of bias involved.

I would not blindly accept crowd sourced data from Fox News either.

Explain the bias. I mean, sure, we should look at their method of going from crowd-sourced raw data to compiled and cleaned list of unique gun deaths, but if we're talking about compiling a list of gun deaths, I'm much more inclined to trust a crowd-sourced list compiled by a "liberal" media outlet than a "conservative" one, simply because I think the conservative one has a vested interest in underreporting the number, while the liberal one has a vested interest in accurately reporting the number.


lol.. No interest in over reporting at all then? No interest in twisting the facts to suit them? Wow.
 
2013-02-23 11:31:47 AM

misanthropologist: Is the argument here that without guns, suicides will happen at the same rate?


Actually, the answer to that is "yes".  The UK, Canada, and U.S. (as well as other developed nations) have roughly the same suicide rate per capita, even though they have vastly different gun laws and cultures.  Without looking it up again, I think it's about 12 people per 100,000 per year.
 
2013-02-23 11:32:33 AM

misanthropologist: iheartscotch: You'd think people who obviously like personal freedoms would support all personal freedoms; not just the ones that they, personally, like.

I feel that is what makes America great; the power to make choices. Can there be a right or wrong if you never had a choice?

You'd think people who like sex would support all types of sex, not just the ones that they, personally, like. For example, I like sex with women, but if liking sex with women implies liking all kinds of sex, I'd have to also support people who like to have sex with children, or who like to have sex with animals, or who like to have sex with people against their will. That's the logic you're applying here.

We can make distinctions between activities and values, and we can negotiate and debate which ones are acceptable and which ones are not. We are, after all, humans, and that is what humans do that distinguishes us from other animals. But if we're going to do that well, we need to look at the real effects of various activities and value systems in terms of people's lives, the environment, etc., etc., etc. If we find that an activity or value system has effects that we do not find tolerable, we should try to change those activities or value systems to minimize or stop the intolerable effects all together. We are not bound to accept any and all beliefs and practices as morally or empirically equivalent and valuable just because they exist in the world.


My my; I was all personal freedomy and you were all sex with turtlesy.

Gun ownership is in The Bill of Rights. I feel that it sets a very bad precident to null and void one of the rights laid down in The Bill of Rights; why not null and void another when it becomes inconvenient?

I know, I know; militia, militia, militia! Gees, jan; a little jealous? All they'd have to do is start a nonpaying state militia; any noncriminal can join for free.
 
2013-02-23 11:35:15 AM

clowncar on fire: misanthropologist: clowncar on fire: Princess Ryans Knickers: 2189 gun deaths in United States alone since Sandy Hook and counting

And how many are left when you take out suicide and accidental shootings?

Is the argument here that without guns, suicides will happen at the same rate? And that without guns, accidental deaths will happen at the same rate?

I suppose it's fair enough that people who want to commit suicide should be allowed to do it by the most efficient and effective means. We wouldn't want them to fail and accidentally survive or something, and then eventually get out of their depression or whatever situation led them to attempt suicide and live productive and fulfilling lives. People who attempt suicide should be assisted in their efforts, because that will make more room for the rest of us to thrive. Right?

And those accidental shootings, well, that's just technologically facilitated Darwinism. Those people would inevitably find another way to accidentally die, ideally before they go and reproduce and pass on their accident-prone genes. We should make sure that everyone has a gun so that gun accidents help to weed out the ignorant and weaker members of society, leaving only the strong and intelligent. Right?

There are more reasons for better gun regulation (and regulation is more than just passing laws...) than just murders.

Bubble wrap laws- welcome to the Nanny States of America where primary govermental function is to enact law to protect us from ourselves.  Oh, and let's not look into too many issues where the individual citizen may have to recognize they have only themselves to blame and that maybe, all the government intrusion in the world is not going to fix.  You know, cause it's always someone elses fault.


So, essentially, you're confirming my interpretation of your desire to separate out suicides and accidental gun deaths from the list of total gun deaths because they're not a real problem? And the risk of accidental gun death or the effectiveness of guns used in suicide attempts is not worth trying to limit because people have a right to die by accident and to effectively kill themselves with the most efficient tools for the job?

So people who attempt suicide are not valuable members of society and should just be allowed, even encouraged, to complete their attempt because seeking ways to limit their access to guns would infringe on their right to kill themselves, and no government has any type of interest or obligation in keeping its citizens alive and thriving?

So things like mandatory, extensive gun safety training and strict regulations about who can use guns in what ways are pointless and intrusive because kids shooting their siblings accidentally with unsecured guns is just the kind of tough lesson that kids and parents should have to learn and take personal responsibility for?
 
2013-02-23 11:35:58 AM

clowncar on fire: iheartscotch: Giltric: iheartscotch: You'd think people who obviously like personal freedoms would support all personal freedoms; not just the ones that they, personally, like.

I feel that is what makes America great; the power to make choices. Can there be a right or wrong if you never had a choice?


If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice.

Indeed; the power to choose or delay your choice is powerful. The right to decide where you stand on any issue; regardless of what anyone else thinks is uniquely American.

/ I feel that it would set a very bad precident to null and void one of the rights mentioned specifically in The Bill of Rights. If one can be null and void; why not another?

End Women's Suffrage Now !!!!


Didn't penn and teller get a couple dozen women to sign a petition of that nature?

Anyway; that isn't what I was saying.
 
2013-02-23 11:36:37 AM

remus: Isn't this the same Jesus whose Father told the Jews to completely destroy their enemies, killing every single one of them and demolishing any trace of them?

Just wondering...


my dad supported the Iraq War...does this somehow invalidate my personal anti-war beliefs?
 
2013-02-23 11:38:27 AM

iheartscotch: misanthropologist: iheartscotch: You'd think people who obviously like personal freedoms would support all personal freedoms; not just the ones that they, personally, like.

I feel that is what makes America great; the power to make choices. Can there be a right or wrong if you never had a choice?

You'd think people who like sex would support all types of sex, not just the ones that they, personally, like. For example, I like sex with women, but if liking sex with women implies liking all kinds of sex, I'd have to also support people who like to have sex with children, or who like to have sex with animals, or who like to have sex with people against their will. That's the logic you're applying here.

We can make distinctions between activities and values, and we can negotiate and debate which ones are acceptable and which ones are not. We are, after all, humans, and that is what humans do that distinguishes us from other animals. But if we're going to do that well, we need to look at the real effects of various activities and value systems in terms of people's lives, the environment, etc., etc., etc. If we find that an activity or value system has effects that we do not find tolerable, we should try to change those activities or value systems to minimize or stop the intolerable effects all together. We are not bound to accept any and all beliefs and practices as morally or empirically equivalent and valuable just because they exist in the world.

My my; I was all personal freedomy and you were all sex with turtlesy.

Gun ownership is in The Bill of Rights. I feel that it sets a very bad precident to null and void one of the rights laid down in The Bill of Rights; why not null and void another when it becomes inconvenient?

I know, I know; militia, militia, militia! Gees, jan; a little jealous? All they'd have to do is start a nonpaying state militia; any noncriminal can join for free.


Just pointing out the flawed logic of "if any X, then all Xs"... and it is flawed logic.
 
2013-02-23 11:39:35 AM

Uisce Beatha: That is anywhere from a 2 to 4 MOA round. What you want is more like this:


yes yes yes 308 or 762x51 very nice. moving along...
 
2013-02-23 11:48:02 AM

browser_snake: Generation_D: There's two stories with regard to crime and guns.

1) Over all crime is down, but

2) Random nutjob teenager or college studentattacking with assault weapons.22 rifles with cool styling is way up since 2004.

It can be both. And both can be addressed, if the gun nut crowd would compromise an inch on various common sense regs. if people would realize that we already have laws against shooting other people and instead support legislation to get dangerously mentally ill teenagers into treatment facilities where they can't just walk out 24 hours later.

But if they don't, I'd bet the eventual resulting laws will be worse. The gun nut crowd digs in its heels, which forces everyone else to dig in ours. And we outnumber the gun nuts.


Stopped reading after this, because it's the most correct statement this thread could possibly produce. See you all in the daily Kate Upton thread when it goes green
 
2013-02-23 11:49:01 AM

Rozinante: Uisce Beatha: Rozinante: Uisce Beatha: Rozinante: potterydove: You know what defeats standard body armor?

[www.aimsurplus.com image 480x312]

Define "standard". Most soft vests can be defeated by any rifle. Most plates can stop those. There's only a tiny steel tip.

Well, if you want to stick to 5.56 and have penetration, even through body armor, go with "barrier blind" ammo.

That should be even less effective.

It's not.  Not by a long shot.  My old job ran the testing for it.  Body Armor, even with plates, means very little to SOST ammo.

Cool. I've held a plate with 5 .30 AP bullets lodged in it. I can't see these doing better, but keeping the point forward counts for a lot.




The boat-tail keeping the round stable and point on does help a lot. Also, the outer jacket peels, so the inner penetrator keeps on truckin'

/There are publicly released tests on MK318
//Check NDIA for papers presented on it, includes penetration testing data
 
2013-02-23 11:49:40 AM

misanthropologist: iheartscotch: misanthropologist: iheartscotch: You'd think people who obviously like personal freedoms would support all personal freedoms; not just the ones that they, personally, like.

I feel that is what makes America great; the power to make choices. Can there be a right or wrong if you never had a choice?

You'd think people who like sex would support all types of sex, not just the ones that they, personally, like. For example, I like sex with women, but if liking sex with women implies liking all kinds of sex, I'd have to also support people who like to have sex with children, or who like to have sex with animals, or who like to have sex with people against their will. That's the logic you're applying here.

We can make distinctions between activities and values, and we can negotiate and debate which ones are acceptable and which ones are not. We are, after all, humans, and that is what humans do that distinguishes us from other animals. But if we're going to do that well, we need to look at the real effects of various activities and value systems in terms of people's lives, the environment, etc., etc., etc. If we find that an activity or value system has effects that we do not find tolerable, we should try to change those activities or value systems to minimize or stop the intolerable effects all together. We are not bound to accept any and all beliefs and practices as morally or empirically equivalent and valuable just because they exist in the world.

My my; I was all personal freedomy and you were all sex with turtlesy.

Gun ownership is in The Bill of Rights. I feel that it sets a very bad precident to null and void one of the rights laid down in The Bill of Rights; why not null and void another when it becomes inconvenient?

I know, I know; militia, militia, militia! Gees, jan; a little jealous? All they'd have to do is start a nonpaying state militia; any noncriminal can join for free.

Just pointing out the flawed logic of "if any X, then all Xs"... and it is flawed logic.


Ah, I ment all personal freedoms outlined in the constitution and bill of rights; not the freedom to go take a dump in a park.

/ damn hobos
 
2013-02-23 11:53:49 AM
The "Home of the Brave[tm]" continues to be afraid if its own shadow.
 
2013-02-23 11:57:02 AM

ausfahrk: misanthropologist: Is the argument here that without guns, suicides will happen at the same rate?

Actually, the answer to that is "yes".  The UK, Canada, and U.S. (as well as other developed nations) have roughly the same suicide rate per capita, even though they have vastly different gun laws and cultures.  Without looking it up again, I think it's about 12 people per 100,000 per year.


Interesting. According to this it's 10.2 in Canada and 10.1 in the US. (24.7 in S Korea and 4.4 in Mexico). So gun laws and culture appears to not be correlated with suicide rate at all. Partly that's surprising, because I would assume significant cultural similarity between Canada and the US, other than the gun aspect, and similar social conditions between the two countries (with socio-economic factors like unemployment, poverty, etc., being one set of drivers for suicide). Then I started to think about differences between Canada and the US other than gun culture, and remembered that Canada has a huge problem with Aboriginal suicide. The rate among Aboriginal populations is over 2 times higher than for the Canadian population in general (so, closer to 20.4/100k), and even though Aboriginal people account for only about 4% of the Canadian population, that may have a significant effect on inclusive national level statistics. I wonder if the increase in suicide rate I expected to see in the US due to the availability of guns is offset by the increased suicide rate among Canadian Aboriginals?

Interestingly, according to this site (which has its own creepiness about it) in 2006, 50.7% of all successful suicides in America were committed by gun. I couldn't find statistics on suicide attempts and the relative success rate of different methods, but I think it safe to assume for the sake of argument that gun attempts are going to have a higher success rate than some of the other methods. If that's the case, presumably some of those 50% of successful suicides would be unsuccessful, potentially leading to intervention, treatment, and recovery rather than death. If that holds, a reduction in the number of guns available to Americans contemplating suicide may lead to a reduction in the number of suicides and thus the rate per 100,000. In Canada, on the other hand, the suicide rate may stay higher due to the statistical effect of incredibly high rates of suicide in Aboriginal communities. Since the aboriginal suicide rate is connected to alcohol and substance abuse, which is further connected with ethno-racial discrimination and marginalization, without addressing those root causes, Canada will not see a reduction in its overall suicide rate.

Thanks for the thought-provoking response!
 
2013-02-23 11:59:01 AM

iheartscotch: Just pointing out the flawed logic of "if any X, then all Xs"... and it is flawed logic.

Ah, I ment all personal freedoms outlined in the constitution and bill of rights; not the freedom to go take a dump in a park.

/ damn hobos


Why shouldn't the freedom to go take a dump in the park be protected like the freedom to own guns?

Seriously. What makes some freedoms more valuable than others?
 
2013-02-23 12:01:37 PM
Did someone say gun? Newsflash.
 
2013-02-23 12:02:11 PM

lohphat: The "Home of the Brave[tm]" continues to be afraid if its own shadow.


Nope. Just the weak sisters on TV.

BTW, Piers, go the fark home.
 
2013-02-23 12:04:30 PM

gnarlywizzard: remus: Isn't this the same Jesus whose Father told the Jews to completely destroy their enemies, killing every single one of them and demolishing any trace of them?

Just wondering...

my dad supported the Iraq War...does this somehow invalidate my personal anti-war beliefs?


IRL, the only war you get to be anti is the one at your feet.
Safe and sound where you stand, swell, be all the farkin' anti you desire.
 
2013-02-23 12:06:31 PM

utah dude: Uisce Beatha: That is anywhere from a 2 to 4 MOA round. What you want is more like this:

yes yes yes 308 or 762x51 very nice. moving along...




The glorious people's 7.62x54R frowns upon your shenanigans, comrade.
 
2013-02-23 12:07:11 PM
Just up the street.

home.earthlink.net
 
2013-02-23 12:10:19 PM

misanthropologist: clowncar on fire: misanthropologist: clowncar on fire: Princess Ryans Knickers: 2189 gun deaths in United States alone since Sandy Hook and counting

And how many are left when you take out suicide and accidental shootings?

Is the argument here that without guns, suicides will happen at the same rate? And that without guns, accidental deaths will happen at the same rate?

I suppose it's fair enough that people who want to commit suicide should be allowed to do it by the most efficient and effective means. We wouldn't want them to fail and accidentally survive or something, and then eventually get out of their depression or whatever situation led them to attempt suicide and live productive and fulfilling lives. People who attempt suicide should be assisted in their efforts, because that will make more room for the rest of us to thrive. Right?

And those accidental shootings, well, that's just technologically facilitated Darwinism. Those people would inevitably find another way to accidentally die, ideally before they go and reproduce and pass on their accident-prone genes. We should make sure that everyone has a gun so that gun accidents help to weed out the ignorant and weaker members of society, leaving only the strong and intelligent. Right?

There are more reasons for better gun regulation (and regulation is more than just passing laws...) than just murders.

Bubble wrap laws- welcome to the Nanny States of America where primary govermental function is to enact law to protect us from ourselves.  Oh, and let's not look into too many issues where the individual citizen may have to recognize they have only themselves to blame and that maybe, all the government intrusion in the world is not going to fix.  You know, cause it's always someone elses fault.

So, essentially, you're confirming my interpretation of your desire to separate out suicides and accidental gun deaths from the list of total gun deaths because they're not a real problem? And the risk of accidental ...


Suicide is one of many of life's little ills- as are gun related deaths.  The difference is taking one's life has taken so much more of a toll on society and is, in some sense, a reflection of how healthy that society is and how well that government is representing it. Failed society = failed government.  People shooting other people is not all that high on why our society is failing- albeit it may actually be a symptom of that failure.  The reality is that our leaders are either clueless as to what has happened to cause this breakdown ,or feel powerless to make the changes needed, so they instead engage themselves in the trivial feel good pursuit of regulation over the things they think they can manage (worked out well in prohibition and regulation of narcotics) as opposed to addressing real issues.

People don't shoot themselves because they have accessibility to guns- they take their lives because they believed they have failed (either in truth or in psychosis) and that they must pay or that death is th only release from a painful life.  How can the government get involved to make us all feel better about our selves?  One is to recognize that the individual is often the master of their own fate and quit supporting the idea that others determine your fate and that only the govermnet can protect you and save you from yourself.  You cannot raise a child successfully through dependency and cocooning them in bubble wrap and then expect them to handle the realities of life the first time they step out from under their wing, why would you expect any different from a society raised under the same conditions?

Kids don't get fat from the accessibility of coke- it's because they have parents who refuse to tell their kids no or place limitations.  Regulating coke only relieves dumbass parents from their responsibility of controlling their child's intake of sugar.  But yes, I guess its a hell of a lot easier to regulate a business (who you hold by the short hairs in the form of re-licensing) than to tell your constituency that they need to be better guardians of their kids.
 
2013-02-23 12:12:08 PM
Apparently, MIT students can't discern the difference between a janitor in coveralls with a broom and a gunman holding a rifle.

I thought they were supposed to be super-smart?
 
2013-02-23 12:12:11 PM

misanthropologist: Thanks for the thought-provoking response!


Honestly, I'm shocked that you answered.  While we're talking, can you help me out with one more question that's been bugging me for a long time:  Fast food, cigarettes, and alcohol kill more Americans before breakfast every day than gun murders do all year.  If you're just looking to save lives, by the numbers, it seems like that's where the low-hanging fruit is.  Why don't we have a million moms marching on Washington (...or whatever...)about that?
 
2013-02-23 12:13:53 PM

Karma Curmudgeon: The actual data is maintained by the Justice Department but exempt from the FOIA, cannot be legally released


Well, the FBI does maintain the Uniform Crime Reports which has quite detailed records on crime and have all sorts of interesting tables and details. 2011 is the last year for which complete records are available and data from the first half of 2012 has been released.

Naturally, their records are concerned about crimes like homicide, aggravated assault, etc. I don't think they maintain records on suicide.
 
2013-02-23 12:14:26 PM

misanthropologist: So people who attempt suicide are not valuable members of society and should just be allowed, even encouraged, to complete their attempt because seeking ways to limit their access to guns would infringe on their right to kill themselves, and no government has any type of interest or obligation in keeping its citizens alive and thriving?


If only there was a way to force people who thought about doing something with their own body that ran counter to your opinion to rethink their ideas of doing something to their own self....

Trans vaginal ultrasounds maybe?
 
2013-02-23 12:15:14 PM

ausfahrk: misanthropologist: Thanks for the thought-provoking response!

Honestly, I'm shocked that you answered.  While we're talking, can you help me out with one more question that's been bugging me for a long time:  Fast food, cigarettes, and alcohol kill more Americans before breakfast every day than gun murders do all year.  If you're just looking to save lives, by the numbers, it seems like that's where the low-hanging fruit is.  Why don't we have a million moms marching on Washington (...or whatever...)about that?


Wouldn't want to offend the voters now, would we?
 
2013-02-23 12:15:17 PM

misanthropologist: iheartscotch: Just pointing out the flawed logic of "if any X, then all Xs"... and it is flawed logic.

Ah, I ment all personal freedoms outlined in the constitution and bill of rights; not the freedom to go take a dump in a park.

/ damn hobos

Why shouldn't the freedom to go take a dump in the park be protected like the freedom to own guns?

Seriously. What makes some freedoms more valuable than others?


For one; taking a dump in the park is frowned upon for some unknown reason.

Unfortunately; the anti-taking a dump in the park lobby is pretty powerful.

I wouldn't say some freedoms are more valuable then others; I would say, instead, that there are some truths that are self-evident and that all men, women and children are created equal, endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

/ how would one defend these rights without the ability to, in only the extreme of self preservation, draw forth their sword?
 
2013-02-23 12:18:33 PM

GBB: People buy when they can pass these checks, then wait until the voices become over powering.


Is that what people do?  I was wondering what people did.
 
2013-02-23 12:19:39 PM
MIT students don't go on homicidal sprees. At least not in person.

That's what drone strikes are for.
 
2013-02-23 12:23:04 PM

trappedspirit: GBB: People buy when they can pass these checks, then wait until the voices become over powering.

Is that what people do?  I was wondering what people did.


Be cause his voices told him so.  projection:the attribution of one's own attitudes, feelings, or desires to someone or something as a naive or unconscious defense against anxiety or guilt.
 
2013-02-23 12:25:41 PM

Princess Ryans Knickers: 2189 gun deaths in United States alone since Sandy Hook and counting


Another one bites the dust.mp3... as in one more retard to the ignore list.
 
2013-02-23 12:32:44 PM
You get five or six of these a year, and maybe one in five years is an actual gun, and of those maybe one in the entire country for that year was actually someone intending harm.

Last scare the place I work had it was one of the flag corps guys from the ROTC transporting a ceremonial prop.  In his uniform.  Painted orange specifically to make it clear it wasn't a functional firearm.  The one before that was literally a nerf gun.

It's... actually not that big a deal unless people actually get shot, guys.  Especially threats, threats just mean it's midterms already.
 
2013-02-23 12:38:23 PM

snocone: gnarlywizzard: remus: Isn't this the same Jesus whose Father told the Jews to completely destroy their enemies, killing every single one of them and demolishing any trace of them?

Just wondering...

my dad supported the Iraq War...does this somehow invalidate my personal anti-war beliefs?

IRL, the only war you get to be anti is the one at your feet.
Safe and sound where you stand, swell, be all the farkin' anti you desire.


way to miss the point. i was just using an example to demonstrate the fallacy of arguing that the shiatty OT god automatically invalidates the hippie NT god. i'm an atheist btw.
 
2013-02-23 12:45:18 PM

gnarlywizzard: snocone: gnarlywizzard: remus: Isn't this the same Jesus whose Father told the Jews to completely destroy their enemies, killing every single one of them and demolishing any trace of them?

Just wondering...

my dad supported the Iraq War...does this somehow invalidate my personal anti-war beliefs?

IRL, the only war you get to be anti is the one at your feet.
Safe and sound where you stand, swell, be all the farkin' anti you desire.

way to miss the point. i was just using an example to demonstrate the fallacy of arguing that the shiatty OT god automatically invalidates the hippie NT god. i'm an atheist btw.


Yea, I see you are big on labels.
 
2013-02-23 12:55:12 PM

utah dude: IronTom: I bet it's an AK-47.

no, it's a glock ar-47. duh.


hey that was my joke.  lay off the carbonation bro
 
2013-02-23 12:57:04 PM

Mart Laar's beard shaver: "A gun-free zone?"

How's that workin' for ya, MIT?


Pretty well, apparently.
 
2013-02-23 12:57:49 PM

Generation_D: There's two stories with regard to crime and guns.

1) Over all crime is down, but

2) Random nutjob attacking with assault weapons is way up since 2004.

It can be both. And both can be addressed, if the gun nut crowd would compromise an inch on various common sense regs.

But if they don't, I'd bet the eventual resulting laws will be worse. The gun nut crowd digs in its heels, which forces everyone else to dig in ours. And we outnumber the gun nuts.


Just curious. Do you label everyone who owns a gun as a "gun nut"?
 
2013-02-23 12:59:37 PM

cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: retarded: Now is not the time to have a discussion about gun control.

Discuss it all you want. Just stop giving retarded solutions.

Any solution is a retarded solution to gun nuts. They just want to ignore the problem and hope it goes away.


No. The problem is that most people with "solutions" forget the difference between privileges and rights.
 
2013-02-23 01:03:09 PM

sethen320: Generation_D: There's two stories with regard to crime and guns.

1) Over all crime is down, but

2) Random nutjob attacking with assault weapons is way up since 2004.

It can be both. And both can be addressed, if the gun nut crowd would compromise an inch on various common sense regs.

But if they don't, I'd bet the eventual resulting laws will be worse. The gun nut crowd digs in its heels, which forces everyone else to dig in ours. And we outnumber the gun nuts.

Just curious. Do you label everyone who owns a gun as a "gun nut"?


i do.  but then again i'm gay
 
2013-02-23 01:08:58 PM
They say it was a hoax.
 
2013-02-23 01:10:10 PM

potterydove: You know what defeats standard body armor?

[www.aimsurplus.com image 480x312]


M855 steel core, nasty stuff. Still available to civilians...for now.
 
2013-02-23 01:15:57 PM
Who the f**k calls in a gun threat to a school on a SATURDAY?! O_o
 
2013-02-23 01:16:58 PM
So...I can haz gun pron thread jack?....

DTI AR-15, .223 red dot sight

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Springfield 1911 .45  custom grips and sights

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the wifes carry gun, Ruger LCP .380 w laser sight

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Missing are photos of my carry gun a Beretta PX4 Storm 9mm, a Fabarms Red Lion 12ga auto, Mosin/Nagant model I forget.
 
2013-02-23 01:17:33 PM
Wow this thread didnt need my help to go full-retard.
 
2013-02-23 01:17:48 PM
Dammit, photos didnt take, no time to fix, will try later.
 
2013-02-23 01:18:08 PM

sethen320: Generation_D: There's two stories with regard to crime and guns.

1) Over all crime is down, but

2) Random nutjob attacking with assault weapons is way up since 2004.

It can be both. And both can be addressed, if the gun nut crowd would compromise an inch on various common sense regs.

But if they don't, I'd bet the eventual resulting laws will be worse. The gun nut crowd digs in its heels, which forces everyone else to dig in ours. And we outnumber the gun nuts.

Just curious. Do you label everyone who owns a gun as a "gun nut"?


Someone who owns a gun = gun not

A woman who has an abortion = abortion nut responsible feminist
 
2013-02-23 01:28:45 PM

Popcorn Johnny: MIT? Well at least we know no Americans will be harmed.


+1
/sadly.
 
2013-02-23 01:30:13 PM

Captain Steroid: Who the f**k calls in a gun threat to a school on a SATURDAY?! O_o


i love saturday - erasure
 
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