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(The New Yorker)   Ted Cruz (R-ed scare) has in his hand a list of 12 people that were known to the Harvard Law faculty as being members of the Communist Party   (newyorker.com) divider line 80
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2013-02-23 08:01:58 AM
12 votes:
Everything Marx told us about communism was false.  Everything he told us about capitalism was true.
2013-02-23 07:00:54 AM
8 votes:
this is one of the things I will never really be able to understand.What is so bad about someone self identifying as Communist? (or conservative, liberal, socialist, etc.)at the very base of it, communism is an idea. A political point of view. People have ideas I disagree with all the time, yet I dont find them dangerous because of their ideas. They think one way, i think another, and that's that. Attacking people for being communist, and trying to strike up a scare about it, is hilariously ironic when you use "Democracy" to do what you accuse them of and attack. Now, lets not confuse ideas with ACTION. If someone has communist ideas, lets say, and tries to blow up congress, well that's dangerous, but that's not what were talking about.
2013-02-23 08:08:45 AM
7 votes:

randomjsa: I've often wondered why being a Nazi is understandably a bad thing in the modern era while being a Communist is somehow enlightened or trendy.


No one has defended communism.  No one.  The problem is people like you who equate "government providing critical infrastructure like roads, emergency services, healthcare, and defense" to "complete government control over all economic activity and government ownership of ALL capital."
2013-02-23 07:45:31 AM
7 votes:
How many people need to be murdered by this sick idea before you say to yourself "You know what? This sounds good on paper but always produces horrific genocidal results."

Kinda like Christianity neh?
2013-02-23 07:40:45 AM
7 votes:

randomjsa: I've often wondered why being a Nazi is understandably a bad thing in the modern era while being a Communist is somehow enlightened or trendy.

Both are repugnant, evil, murdering ideologies responsible for death and misery around the world. The only difference between them is that at least the Nazi no longer control a government. The same cannot be said of communism, and people continue to suffer as a result.

Yes, I am saying it, being a communist or a member of a communist party makes you just as much of a repugnant, evil, reprehensible little farker as anyone who signs up for the modern Nazi party.

You may commence with the "But... but... Nazism actually advocates evil things where um... communism doesn't! Just ignore the 100 million people murdered under communism and counting, it just hasn't been done "right" yet"

How many people need to be murdered by this sick idea before you say to yourself "You know what? This sounds good on paper but always produces horrific genocidal results."


you're confusing Communism with Statism you dumb fark.
2013-02-23 08:47:10 AM
5 votes:
We laughed about it before but this is verbatim what McCarthy said in the 50's,  Cruz did accuse Hagel of receiving money from North Korea but other than that I'm kinda surprised he hasn't updated the script a bit to replace communism with Al Qaida or whatnot.

The guy went to Princeton and was magna cum laude from Harvard.  He's not stupid - he's just a morally-devoid hack willing to intentionally brand members of his own party as traitors in order to curry favor with a base that is by now further to the right than most authoritarian regimes.

The fact that he is considered a rising star instead of a national disgrace says more about our politics than it does about him.
2013-02-23 09:15:15 AM
4 votes:
Also, it's absolutely amazing how many people confuse economics and a system of governance.  They're intertwined, but there's nothing about a Democracy or Republic that requires it to exist in a capitalist system.  You could even make a decent argument that capitalism actually works against democracy.
2013-02-23 07:38:38 AM
4 votes:

randomjsa: I've often wondered why being a Nazi is understandably a bad thing in the modern era while being a Communist is somehow enlightened or trendy.

Both are repugnant, evil, murdering ideologies responsible for death and misery around the world. The only difference between them is that at least the Nazi no longer control a government. The same cannot be said of communism, and people continue to suffer as a result.

Yes, I am saying it, being a communist or a member of a communist party makes you just as much of a repugnant, evil, reprehensible little farker as anyone who signs up for the modern Nazi party.

You may commence with the "But... but... Nazism actually advocates evil things where um... communism doesn't! Just ignore the 100 million people murdered under communism and counting, it just hasn't been done "right" yet"

How many people need to be murdered by this sick idea before you say to yourself "You know what? This sounds good on paper but always produces horrific genocidal results."


How many people on Fark are actually communists?

It's like Libertarianism, it sounds really nice in theory (everyone on equal footing, etc.), but in actual practice, it doesn't actually work.
2013-02-23 07:34:20 AM
4 votes:
The worst thing about Ted Cruz is that he does not actually seem to be lacking in intelligence or education. Instead, he has fashioned himself into the character of an overzealous demagogue, a guy who brazenly lies and dumbs it down for the mouth-breathers who elected him.

I seriously doubt he believes half the shiat that comes out of his own mouth, but the teatards are eating it up. Hopefully he'll get caught with a hooker or in a mens room stall, before he has a chance to start doing any McCarthy-stye inquisitions.
2013-02-23 07:07:21 AM
4 votes:
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"I would approve of this action, if first Mr. Cruz would confirm that he, himself, is not a commie in secret!  Throwing us off his trail!  We're onto you,  Mr. Cruz-chev."

For farks sake, we're really going to do this again?  Relive one of the worst, unAmerican things ever to happen in our country since slavery was abolished?
2013-02-23 06:30:34 AM
4 votes:
I'm not accusing him of anything, but don't you think the American people would like to know if a sitting US Senator was anonymously accepting campaign funds from a foreign government via superPACS?  Again, I'm not accusing Senator Cruz of anything, but the fact that he hasn't proven that this hasn't happened is telling.
2013-02-23 11:09:50 AM
3 votes:
High end universities; Maybe it's time you actually START discriminating against conservatives.  Even if they attend your school, they'll turn on you and try to destroy the educational system anyways.
2013-02-23 08:52:32 AM
3 votes:

JOHN MCENROE MY CHILDHOOD NEMESIS: this is one of the things I will never really be able to understand.What is so bad about someone self identifying as Communist? (or conservative, liberal, socialist, etc.)at the very base of it, communism is an idea. A political point of view. People have ideas I disagree with all the time, yet I dont find them dangerous because of their ideas. They think one way, i think another, and that's that. Attacking people for being communist, and trying to strike up a scare about it, is hilariously ironic when you use "Democracy" to do what you accuse them of and attack. Now, lets not confuse ideas with ACTION. If someone has communist ideas, lets say, and tries to blow up congress, well that's dangerous, but that's not what were talking about.


The ruling class does not care if we elect republicans or democrats, they contribute financially to republicans because the expected value of the profits from X level of deregulation exceeds the amount of those contributions, it's simply a financial calculation.

The ruling (capitalist) class is scared shiatless of communism and has been since the very beginning.
2013-02-23 06:59:41 AM
3 votes:
He's following the policy of 'use specific numbers, it makes the lie more believable'.
2013-02-23 06:20:09 PM
2 votes:

thisispete: If I were a Russian in 1917 or Chinese in 1949 or Cuban in 1959 I probably would have been a communist sympathiser too. The governments those revolutions overthrew were highly oppressive and from the viewpoint of the people in those respective times and places, they had to go. Especially in Russia, where the Tsar was sending millions to die on the Eastern Front in WW1. Ideally a democratic revolution would have been better.


There was a democratic revolution in Russia. There were two revolutions in 1917. The Kerensky revolution was in February and was focused on ending the war with Germany (which it did, ceding much land and other things) and stabilizing the country with the mass famines and death and misery and such. Kerensky's provisional government (which attempted democratic reforms but wasn't entirely focused on democracy -- it just wanted stability) lasted until October, when there was another revolution by the Communists.

In the fallout from the October revolution, the Communists had had split into the Mensheviks (whites) and Bolsheviks (reds), and they fought a grueling civil war until 1922. The Bolsheviks eventually won. Lenin didn't actually assume power until 1923. Then he died of a brain aneurism in 1924. Things went downhill from there.
2013-02-23 04:26:37 PM
2 votes:
Why is the GOP RED?
2013-02-23 01:21:35 PM
2 votes:

Satanic_Hamster: Mrtraveler01: /that's sarcasm btw
//How much do you want to bet he didn't even know Ted Cruz was a Cuban-Canadian-American

And better; his father was a communist who fought *for* Castro.


Has  jjorsett's head explode yet?

Let's emphasize this:

Ted Cruz's dad was a communist sympathizer!!!
2013-02-23 01:15:29 PM
2 votes:

Mrtraveler01: /that's sarcasm btw
//How much do you want to bet he didn't even know Ted Cruz was a Cuban-Canadian-American


And better; his father was a communist who fought *for* Castro.
2013-02-23 10:42:40 AM
2 votes:

randomjsa: I've often wondered why being a Nazi is understandably a bad thing in the modern era while being a Communist is somehow enlightened or trendy.

Both are repugnant, evil, murdering ideologies responsible for death and misery around the world. The only difference between them is that at least the Nazi no longer control a government. The same cannot be said of communism, and people continue to suffer as a result.

Yes, I am saying it, being a communist or a member of a communist party makes you just as much of a repugnant, evil, reprehensible little farker as anyone who signs up for the modern Nazi party.

You may commence with the "But... but... Nazism actually advocates evil things where um... communism doesn't! Just ignore the 100 million people murdered under communism and counting, it just hasn't been done "right" yet"

How many people need to be murdered by this sick idea before you say to yourself "You know what? This sounds good on paper but always produces horrific genocidal results."


It's too bad we don't have the numbers on the amount of suffering caused by capitalism, and before that, feudalism. Entire peoples were effectively wiped out in the name of profit over the course just a couple hundred years.

Also, the worst genocide of the 20th century in terms of percentage of population, was stopped by Communists, who we were at war with for over a decade. Yes, it was Vietnam who put a stop to the Khmer Rouge. Not some Western Democracy, not some Capitalist, free-market entity, but Vietnam, a Communist country.

Oh, and all those free-market capitalists that are supposed to be so great, really seem to love communist China, who among their long list of atrocities, backed the Khmer Rouge. But that's ok, because profit=freedom, right?
2013-02-23 10:39:35 AM
2 votes:

randomjsa: I've often wondered why being a Nazi is understandably a bad thing in the modern era while being a Communist is somehow enlightened or trendy.

Both are repugnant, evil, murdering ideologies responsible for death and misery around the world. The only difference between them is that at least the Nazi no longer control a government. The same cannot be said of communism, and people continue to suffer as a result.

Yes, I am saying it, being a communist or a member of a communist party makes you just as much of a repugnant, evil, reprehensible little farker as anyone who signs up for the modern Nazi party.

You may commence with the "But... but... Nazism actually advocates evil things where um... communism doesn't! Just ignore the 100 million people murdered under communism and counting, it just hasn't been done "right" yet"

How many people need to be murdered by this sick idea before you say to yourself "You know what? This sounds good on paper but always produces horrific genocidal results."




Here's the thing random, and I know it's hard for you to accept.

This is America, not supply side Jesus-stan. We don't have witch hunts anymore, we grew up and moved past that as a nation. McCarthyism is seen by most sane adults has something to be reviled, unlike you. You can be a communist and not be a bogeyman. You can be a communist and not be arrested, as strange as that idea is to you. We have freedom here, freedom of speech, freedom of political affiliation. I know I know, you're about to go on about how you have that freedom too and shouldn't be denounced for using it. That's true, and were not, but we as Americans must accept the responsibility that comes with our freedoms, and one of those is accepting criticism of our ideas if they are very very dumb.

Like yours.
2013-02-23 10:33:18 AM
2 votes:

Mrbogey: thamike: Wandering meaninglessness aside, that comment was full of idiocy.

Damn homonyms and fast typing.

Comment was still accurate. You take the standard policies of communism and you'll find many more people will support them as long as they're not labeled as such.


Am I a communist in your eyes because I think that having the Free Market unregulated is self-destructive in the long term and that checks and regulations are needed to ensure a healthy economy?

Wanting regulation in a capitalist economy != Communism
2013-02-23 10:25:39 AM
2 votes:
Under the Smith Act, it is a crime to actively engage in any organization pursuing the overthrow of the U.S. government.


Why isn't a sizeable portion of the GOP in prison now??
2013-02-23 10:16:42 AM
2 votes:
randomjsa: I've often wondered why being a Nazi is understandably a bad thing in the modern era while being a Communist Capitalistis somehow enlightened or trendy.

Both are repugnant, evil, murdering ideologies responsible for death and misery around the world. The only difference between them is that at least the Nazi no longer control a government. The same cannot be said of communism, and people continue to suffer as a result.

Yes, I am saying it, being a   Communist Capitalist
  or a member of a   Communist Capitalist party makes you just as much of a repugnant, evil, reprehensible little farker as anyone who signs up for the modern Nazi party.

You may commence with the "But... but... Nazism actually advocates evil things where um...   Communist Capitalism
 doesn't! Just ignore the 100 million people murdered under   Communist Capitalism and counting, it just hasn't been done "right" yet"

How many people need to be murdered by this sick idea before you say to yourself "You know what? This sounds good on paper but always produces horrific genocidal results."


FTFY

/yes, he's a troll, but I'm bored this morning
2013-02-23 09:22:07 AM
2 votes:
spawn73:

Communists usually believe in the abolishment of the current political system through a revolution.

Personally I don't have a problem with people having stupid political and economic beliefs, but I do find it problematic if they truly wish and believe that they will occur through non-democratic means.


Hmmm...kind of like 2nd amendment solutions?

/Which, ironically, Ted Cruz is probably all for
2013-02-23 09:11:46 AM
2 votes:

Hastor: Cruz did accuse Hagel of receiving money from North Korea


Isn't amazing how the only one he's named is Hagel... a Republican. A Republican they accepted until recently. A Republican who was a mouthpiece for the party. A Republican who likely received many of the SAME donations as his fellow Republicans. Therefore, all Republicans are North Korea sympathizers and hate America.
2013-02-23 07:54:55 AM
2 votes:

Serious Black: I think we should force beautiful people to have plastic surgery to make them less attractive, and we should force ugly people to have surgery to be more attractive.


I also advocate interracial breeding, until which point in the future that we all become a universal grey/brown and we can move on to other ways to discriminate against each other.
2013-02-23 07:53:35 AM
2 votes:

whitman00: cc_rider: The worst thing about Ted Cruz is that he does not actually seem to be lacking in intelligence or education. Instead, he has fashioned himself into the character of an overzealous demagogue, a guy who brazenly lies and dumbs it down for the mouth-breathers who elected him.

I seriously doubt he believes half the shiat that comes out of his own mouth, but the teatards are eating it up. Hopefully he'll get caught with a hooker or in a mens room stall, before he has a chance to start doing any McCarthy-stye inquisitions.

Came to say exactly this and found out it's already been said.
This guy is playing a part. If an idiot like Michele Bachmann can rake in millions doing this, a smart Harvard guy outa pull in double or triple that.


That a Harvard Law grad who clerked for Rehnquist when he was Chief Justice would reduce himself to Red-baiting and spewing populist psychobabble just to get noticed, tells me everything I need to know about this vile, manipulative POS.
2013-02-23 07:41:00 AM
2 votes:

cc_rider: The worst thing about Ted Cruz is that he does not actually seem to be lacking in intelligence or education. Instead, he has fashioned himself into the character of an overzealous demagogue, a guy who brazenly lies and dumbs it down for the mouth-breathers who elected him.

I seriously doubt he believes half the shiat that comes out of his own mouth, but the teatards are eating it up. Hopefully he'll get caught with a hooker or in a mens room stall, before he has a chance to start doing any McCarthy-stye inquisitions.


Came to say exactly this and found out it's already been said.
This guy is playing a part. If an idiot like Michele Bachmann can rake in millions doing this, a smart Harvard guy outa pull in double or triple that.
2013-02-23 07:24:34 AM
2 votes:
All the McCarthy pics have been posted, so here's one of Senator Iselin:

2.bp.blogspot.com

/great movie, by the way
2013-02-23 07:01:19 AM
2 votes:

Blue_Blazer: ghare: Mentat: I'm not accusing him of anything, but don't you think the American people would like to know if a sitting US Senator was anonymously accepting campaign funds from a foreign government via superPACS?  Again, I'm not accusing Senator Cruz of anything, but the fact that he hasn't proven that this hasn't happened is telling.

I heard it was Russia. Can you confirm this?

I can confirm that you heard it was Russia.


Why won't the senator come out against the dangers of taking money from Russia? Doesn't he know the dangers of comradeship with the former Soviet Union? Why won't he dismiss help that he could have gotten from the former Soviet government?
2013-02-24 11:28:38 PM
1 votes:

jjorsett: Lotta anti-TC rhetoric coming from the libs and their media allies recently, which isn't surprising. Ted Cruz = Hispanic, therefore he must be kneecapped before he harms the narrative that the GOP hates immigrants and minorities. Marco Rubio is another target. If Bobby Jindal ever looks likely to run for president, he'll get the same treatment.


Are you suggesting that somehow is evil liberals are forcing people like Ted Cruz to say stupidly outrageous things? No one can force any of these clowns to shoot themselves in the foot. They do it because they have shiat for brains.
2013-02-23 10:59:49 PM
1 votes:

Mentat: Aar1012: Blue_Blazer: ghare: Mentat: I'm not accusing him of anything, but don't you think the American people would like to know if a sitting US Senator was anonymously accepting campaign funds from a foreign government via superPACS?  Again, I'm not accusing Senator Cruz of anything, but the fact that he hasn't proven that this hasn't happened is telling.

I heard it was Russia. Can you confirm this?

I can confirm that you heard it was Russia.

Why won't the senator come out against the dangers of taking money from Russia? Doesn't he know the dangers of comradeship with the former Soviet Union? Why won't he dismiss help that he could have gotten from the former Soviet government?

You're coming awfully close to accusing Senator Cruz of accepting anonymous money from Russia via Karl Rove's superPAC.


So, I now have four independent sources who accuse Sen. Cruz of taking Commie money from Russia which had been laundered through a SuperPAC, and now I have confirmation that another independent source thinks Karl Rove may have been involved.

Should I call up Ben Shapiro over at Breibart and see if he'll run with this?
2013-02-23 03:49:51 PM
1 votes:
So Ted Cruz believes that academics should be chosen not based on merit, but on adherence to the right political ideology?

So did the communists.
2013-02-23 02:59:45 PM
1 votes:

studs up: Dansker: Mrbogey: Dansker: Can you give an example of such genocides that no one wants to stop?

First, let me clarify, by "no one" I refer to states. There has been talk but little action. Yes, people want to stop Darfur

The largest international peace keeping force ever (UN and African Union troops) was deployed to Darfur more than five years ago. It's pretty much been over since 2010.

Over in 2010?
Not even close to being over.
It may have changed its face a little but there is murder, rape, displacement and corruption that would never be put in a fiction novel because no one would buy it.


I didn't suggest that peace, love and harmony reigns supreme in Darfur. There's no ongoing genocide, and it's a piss poor example of something no one did anything about.
2013-02-23 02:33:42 PM
1 votes:

Satanic_Hamster: thamike: Total power through military coup is democratically elected?

Shhhhh.  According to anti-Castro fanatics, Batista was a wonderful and democratically elected president who did no wrong until the evil Castro with the backing of the eviler Russians over through the peaceful democratic government of the people and imposed their nazi dictatorship on the Cuban people who yearn to be free and we'll be greeted as liberators if we were to invade to liberate them.


Basically.

It's worth noting that most of the Cuban-Americans who first immigrated to Miami after Castro took over were the ones who profited the most off of Batista's regime. While in actuality, a lot of people were suffering during Batista just like they did under Castro.

But the old guard (so to speak) is dying out and the younger generations don't give much of a fark about Batista since they've been here for their whole lives. That and the Latino population is becoming much more diverse which means the Cuban-American's influence in Miami is being diminished slowly as Latinos from other countries in Latin America are moving in.
2013-02-23 01:51:33 PM
1 votes:

Mrtraveler01: Let's emphasize this:

Ted Cruz's dad was a communist sympathizer!!!


Incorrect.  His father did not sympathize with communists.  He openly took up arms to violently overthrow a democratically elected government in order to install Castro as a communist dictator.    That's a big more then having sympathy for them.

elchip: Also, a little bird told me that "Latino" is the preferred nomenclature.


Eh.  All them Mexicans are the same, anyways.
2013-02-23 01:40:02 PM
1 votes:

a_bilge_monkey: I see some new respondents to randomjsa's post. While all of your posts are on point and valid, expect no debate from him. He exists to swoop, vomit, and disappear. I guess I'm saying, "We don't get fooled again".


The debate with him isn't the point here. Our  entire society has an inbred hatred of communism. Even saying 'okay, so take out Stalinism and treat it like any other economic theory the guy behind was a bit nuts about figuring out, and what's the problem?' is considered radical. That's insane. We should not be a society with inbred hatred of an  economic theory. And it's probably time we start publicly saying we're sane again.
2013-02-23 01:13:09 PM
1 votes:

jjorsett: Lotta anti-TC rhetoric coming from the libs and their media allies recently, which isn't surprising. Ted Cruz = Hispanic, therefore he must be kneecapped before he harms the narrative that the GOP hates immigrants and minorities. Marco Rubio is another target. If Bobby Jindal ever looks likely to run for president, he'll get the same treatment.


Ted Cruz is about as Hispanic as a Taco Bell lunch special.
2013-02-23 01:08:43 PM
1 votes:
Ted Cruz has been listening to way too much Coast to Coast AM.

Which I might add is not as good as it used to be.
2013-02-23 12:28:29 PM
1 votes:

Mrbogey: Empty Matchbook: Communism, when working as intended, provides basic needs for every single citizen.

Then explain the famines that killed millions.


I assume the point he's trying to make is that while both had monstrous results when put into effect, one had fundamentally positive intentions (improve the lot of almost all humans) whereas the other did not (create a racist regime to dominate Europe and exterminate or enslave "inferior" humans). While I'm no fan of communism, to be intellectually honest, one does have to wrestle with its fundamentally positive intentions.
2013-02-23 11:51:15 AM
1 votes:

Mrbogey: There was never a war engaged in the 20th century, except for possibly Kosovo, where ethnic cleansing was the justification. Hell, there's genocides regularly occuring in Africa and no one wants to stop them.


No President has ever made genocide prevention a priority and no President has ever suffered politically for his indifference to its occurrence.
2013-02-23 11:44:01 AM
1 votes:

randomjsa: Yes, I am saying it, being a communist or a member of a communist party makes you just as much of a repugnant, evil, reprehensible little farker as anyone who signs up for the modern Nazi party.


Yes, in much the same way that anyone who considers themselves a Christian today wants to strap men to a flat board by their ankles and wrists and slowly pull the body in opposite directions until all four limbs are dislocated or torn off, or insert a spiked, metal pear into the vaginas of women and slowly expand it until it fits the pelvic cavity, lacerating the genital flesh, tissue and membranes and causing indescribable pain and death.
2013-02-23 11:39:57 AM
1 votes:
The republican message:

It's not Bush's fault.
It's not our fault.
It's their fault.
2013-02-23 11:25:46 AM
1 votes:

Blue_Blazer: ghare: Mentat: I'm not accusing him of anything, but don't you think the American people would like to know if a sitting US Senator was anonymously accepting campaign funds from a foreign government via superPACS?  Again, I'm not accusing Senator Cruz of anything, but the fact that he hasn't proven that this hasn't happened is telling.

I heard it was Russia. Can you confirm this?

I can confirm that you heard it was Russia.


"I know the rumor, I started it."
-Hunter S. Thompson

/need more journalists like him
//seriously

randomjsa: I've often wondered why being a Nazi is understandably a bad thing in the modern era while being a Communist is somehow enlightened or trendy.

Both are repugnant, evil, murdering ideologies responsible for death and misery around the world. The only difference between them is that at least the Nazi no longer control a government. The same cannot be said of communism, and people continue to suffer as a result.

Yes, I am saying it, being a communist or a member of a communist party makes you just as much of a repugnant, evil, reprehensible little farker as anyone who signs up for the modern Nazi party.

You may commence with the "But... but... Nazism actually advocates evil things where um... communism doesn't! Just ignore the 100 million people murdered under communism and counting, it just hasn't been done "right" yet"

How many people need to be murdered by this sick idea before you say to yourself "You know what? This sounds good on paper but always produces horrific genocidal results."


Communism, when working as intended, provides basic needs for every single citizen.

Nazism, when working as intended...well, Germany 1933-1944.

/now keep not responding to anyone who makes valid points, trollboy
2013-02-23 11:10:18 AM
1 votes:
Hey, Harry Reid!  You knew the GOP was bringing genuine punchbowl-shiatters this year, so...how's that whole 'collegiality and respectful' thing working out for you?

F*ck you, Reid, you senile bucket of blood and snot.
2013-02-23 11:00:19 AM
1 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: thurstonxhowell: Let's say I'm an aspiring future politician. I make all the right moves. I get into Harvard Law. My career is looking pretty good. Hey, I know what I'll do. I'll join the Communist Party. Not just be a communist, but actually join the party. Yeah, that'll look good in campaign commercials. Well, that's the plan. I'm going to make all the right moves and join the Communist Party. Makes sense to me. There is no way this could harm the career in politics I've spent most of my life cultivating.

Don't forget to advocate for the violent overthrow of the U. S. government!


Advocating for the violent overthrow of the U.S. government only works if you're a Republican and claim it's in support of the 2nd Amendment.
2013-02-23 10:52:35 AM
1 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: Mrbogey: //commies never admit their commies because the term is poison

Almost as poison as "Republican"


give it one more election cycle, it will be political Arsenic.
2013-02-23 10:44:39 AM
1 votes:

LectertheChef: Also, the worst genocide of the 20th century in terms of percentage of population, was stopped by Communists, who we were at war with for over a decade. Yes, it was Vietnam who put a stop to the Khmer Rouge. Not some Western Democracy, not some Capitalist, free-market entity, but Vietnam, a Communist country.


That and the fact the Soviets were able to stop the Nazi's in Stalingrad was the beginning of the end for Nazi Germany.

But the Soviets are very far from perfect.
2013-02-23 10:42:53 AM
1 votes:
Oddly enough, a LOT of Senators and Reps have ties to monarchists and Communists thanks to the Saudis and the Chinese. Should we not investigate them as well?
2013-02-23 10:40:31 AM
1 votes:

Dansker: Mrbogey: thamike: Wandering meaninglessness aside, that comment was full of idiocy.

Damn homonyms and fast typing.

Comment was still accurate. You take the standard policies of communism and you'll find many more people will support them as long as they're not labeled as such.

Can you give an example of such a policy?


Children should not be allowed to work in factories.

Of course, that was an important distinction between Communism and Capitalism in 1848, it's not so much today.
2013-02-23 10:38:40 AM
1 votes:

Mrbogey: thamike: Wandering meaninglessness aside, that comment was full of idiocy.

Damn homonyms and fast typing.

Comment was still accurate. You take the standard policies of communism and you'll find many more people will support them as long as they're not labeled as such.


Can you give an example of such a policy?
2013-02-23 10:37:19 AM
1 votes:

hubiestubert: And Sarah Palin married a fella with ties to a secessionist movement.

The Communist Party nor the TEA Party are illegal. Perhaps folks should instead focus on what they actually do. Sort of like declaring all Muslims to be suspect, or all Catholics, or all Mormons or all Scientologists...

Just a thought.


He was a member of the Alaska Independence Party for seven years.  He didn't have ties, he was a secessionist.  Palin apparently never joined.  But she had more than ties to it, she tied the knot with a secessionist.
2013-02-23 10:30:13 AM
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shotglasss: Meanwhile, Obama's cronies are raising the gas price to $4 a gallon to benefit Obammy and his oil cronies and we're not worried about that? Why aren't we worried about the gas prices?

It's a real shame that the liberal media doesn't treat Obammy like they did bush.


lololololol. This is what shotglasss really believes, of course this is from the man, and I use that term loosely, that during BENGHAZI tried to seriously bring up the ancient Vince foster conspiracy theory, and the same guy who thinks that killing a doctor who has Performed an abortion makes you a real American hero.  Let me sum up with this...

How we know the presidency works, vs how shotglasss thinks it works.


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2013-02-23 10:27:41 AM
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Mrbogey: Just because someone believes in Marxist class struggle, the tenants of international socialism, and is a critic of free markets doesn't make them a communist. It's like how people keep telling me John Travolta is gay because he keeps having trysts with other men. The guy's married... clearly not gay.

/yea sarcasm
//commies never admit their commies because the term is poison


Wandering meaninglessness aside, that comment was full of idiocy.
2013-02-23 10:25:36 AM
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And Sarah Palin married a fella with ties to a secessionist movement.

The Communist Party nor the TEA Party are illegal. Perhaps folks should instead focus on what they actually do. Sort of like declaring all Muslims to be suspect, or all Catholics, or all Mormons or all Scientologists...

Just a thought.
2013-02-23 09:55:29 AM
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Knight of the Woeful Countenance: randomjsa: I've often wondered why being a Nazi is understandably a bad thing in the modern era while being a Communist is somehow enlightened or trendy.

Both are repugnant, evil, murdering ideologies responsible for death and misery around the world. The only difference between them is that at least the Nazi no longer control a government. The same cannot be said of communism, and people continue to suffer as a result.

Yes, I am saying it, being a communist or a member of a communist party makes you just as much of a repugnant, evil, reprehensible little farker as anyone who signs up for the modern Nazi party.

You may commence with the "But... but... Nazism actually advocates evil things where um... communism doesn't! Just ignore the 100 million people murdered under communism and counting, it just hasn't been done "right" yet"

How many people need to be murdered by this sick idea before you say to yourself "You know what? This sounds good on paper but always produces horrific genocidal results."

you're confusing Communism with Statism you dumb fark.


Actually, not as much as people would think.  Marx went out of his way to give a speech on how Communism MIGHT be achieved in SOME countries without TOO MUCH violence.  Communism's transition stage from capitalism includes a dictatorial system and violence against the bourgeoisie and Marx was explicit about this.  Of course, he would have been appalled at Stalin, because while the peasants were not the proletariat he originally envisioned being the catalyst to revolution, he certainly didn't consider them the enemy.  But the bottom-line is that Communism advocates the necessity of murdering unrepentant capitalists because they cannot be cured.  The results from every attempt to implement Communism are predictable and consistent and the ideology is, in fact, every bit as violently dangerous as any that has been conceived and will be the result of EVERY attempt to implement it.
2013-02-23 09:45:25 AM
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You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?

Communists?  Seriously??

WTF is your problem, GOP?

COMMUNISTS????
2013-02-23 09:25:58 AM
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A Terrible Human: Notabunny: jcooli09: Unless it works.  This guy is Glenn Becks hero, and if he can manage to gain traction there are lot's of republicans who will ride his coattails.

The gop is a much greater threat to America than communism.

Is that like Mothra, or the clap? It's an important distinction.

Well the modern GOP can be considered a disease so....


I think it would be more like gangrene than the clap...The clap would indicate they once did something fun (like sex)
2013-02-23 09:11:45 AM
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LouDobbsAwaaaay: Have we seen Ted Cruz's long-form birth certificate?  I think he's a commie-Muslin-islamosocialist sleeper-cell.  I have a list of those kind of people and Ted Cruz is on it.


Well he is a Canuckistanian* son of a communist**, which is pretty close.

*he was born in Canada
**his father fought for Castro in the Cuban revolution
2013-02-23 08:55:29 AM
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Unless it works.  This guy is Glenn Becks hero, and if he can manage to gain traction there are lot's of republicans who will ride his coattails.

The gop is a much greater threat to America than communism.
2013-02-23 08:51:27 AM
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Cruz is fated to end up the same way that McCarthy did: though he probably won't get kicked out, if he keeps up this nonsense, he will be completely frozen out, and so he'll while away the end of his term being ignored by colleagues and giving speeches to an empty chamber.

Hopefully, too, he'll go all the way and drink himself to death like his hero.
2013-02-23 08:47:11 AM
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Does ted cruz also have in his hand a copy of The Constitution that tells citizens which political parties and movements they are allowed to belong to?
2013-02-23 08:38:44 AM
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Another GOP scholar who does not understand the difference between political and economic systems, but compensates with paranoia and delusions of grandeur.
2013-02-23 08:32:33 AM
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Well, if we were looking for the next Reagan, this is as close as we're gonna get.
2013-02-23 08:31:18 AM
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I'm not afraid of Communists.

Why should I be afraid of Communists?

Why should I be afraid of anyone?
2013-02-23 08:27:29 AM
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randomjsa: I've often wondered why being a Nazi is understandably a bad thing in the modern era while being a Communist is somehow enlightened or trendy.

Both are repugnant, evil, murdering ideologies responsible for death and misery around the world. The only difference between them is that at least the Nazi no longer control a government. The same cannot be said of communism, and people continue to suffer as a result.

Yes, I am saying it, being a communist or a member of a communist party makes you just as much of a repugnant, evil, reprehensible little farker as anyone who signs up for the modern Nazi party.

You may commence with the "But... but... Nazism actually advocates evil things where um... communism doesn't! Just ignore the 100 million people murdered under communism and counting, it just hasn't been done "right" yet"

How many people need to be murdered by this sick idea before you say to yourself "You know what? This sounds good on paper but always produces horrific genocidal results."


You're forgetting religious fundamentalism.
2013-02-23 08:26:45 AM
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I see some new respondents to randomjsa's post. While all of your posts are on point and valid, expect no debate from him. He exists to swoop, vomit, and disappear. I guess I'm saying, "We don't get fooled again".
2013-02-23 08:00:27 AM
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Mrtraveler01: How many people on Fark are actually communists?

It's like Libertarianism, it sounds really nice in theory (everyone on equal footing, etc.), but in actual practice, it doesn't actually work.


Fark has, what, half a million user accounts? Perhaps 10% of which are actually in active use?

The US has a population of 300 million. Wait, Fark is a web site, so it theoretically draws its userbase from a global pool, so 50,000 of 6 billion are on here.

And the Communist Party of the USA has around 2000-3000 members.

So how many people on Fark are actually communists? The odds are good that it's "zero."
2013-02-23 07:59:30 AM
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I would be considerably more offended if someone accused me of being a Republican.
2013-02-23 07:59:06 AM
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cc_rider:

That a Harvard Law grad who clerked for Rehnquist when he was Chief Justice would reduce himself to Red-baiting and spewing populist psychobabble just to get noticed, tells me everything I need to know about this vile, manipulative POS.is about as surprising as the sun rising in the East.

/FTFY
//Yours is right too . . .
2013-02-23 07:52:13 AM
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TIL the problem with Communism isn't an ideological one, it's whats been done under its name.
2013-02-23 07:42:54 AM
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Yes, because if there is a single 21st century threat to the United States, it's the Soviet Union.

/lrn2history, dipshiat
2013-02-23 07:41:36 AM
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These people seem to be trying to live some sort of Holodeck experience. I wonder vhow long it will be before they start wearing 50s suits and haircuts, and start driving restored 50s cars with huge tailfins.
2013-02-23 07:30:39 AM
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I've often wondered why being a Nazi is understandably a bad thing in the modern era while being a Communist is somehow enlightened or trendy.

Both are repugnant, evil, murdering ideologies responsible for death and misery around the world. The only difference between them is that at least the Nazi no longer control a government. The same cannot be said of communism, and people continue to suffer as a result.

Yes, I am saying it, being a communist or a member of a communist party makes you just as much of a repugnant, evil, reprehensible little farker as anyone who signs up for the modern Nazi party.

You may commence with the "But... but... Nazism actually advocates evil things where um... communism doesn't! Just ignore the 100 million people murdered under communism and counting, it just hasn't been done "right" yet"

How many people need to be murdered by this sick idea before you say to yourself "You know what? This sounds good on paper but always produces horrific genocidal results."
2013-02-23 07:14:53 AM
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Who gives.a shiat if someone calls himself a communist or is a member of the communist party?
Public involvement in politics is always a good thing. I even say that about Tea Partiers. At least they are involved.
2013-02-23 07:09:28 AM
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JOHN MCENROE MY CHILDHOOD NEMESIS: this is one of the things I will never really be able to understand.What is so bad about someone self identifying as Communist? (or conservative, liberal, socialist, etc.)at the very base of it, communism is an idea. A political point of view. People have ideas I disagree with all the time, yet I dont find them dangerous because of their ideas. They think one way, i think another, and that's that. Attacking people for being communist, and trying to strike up a scare about it, is hilariously ironic when you use "Democracy" to do what you accuse them of and attack. Now, lets not confuse ideas with ACTION. If someone has communist ideas, lets say, and tries to blow up congress, well that's dangerous, but that's not what were talking about.


I concur.   Seriously, these are my thoughts as well.  Who gives a flying f*ck? Even if it's true that Harvard is filled with communist professors - So?   HOw many Justices on the Supreme court are Harvard law grads?   What a threat those communists are to USA....   get a more modern chicken to f*ck.
2013-02-23 07:02:42 AM
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/not this shiat again...
2013-02-23 06:55:31 AM
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Ha! I love a good Borowitz satire piece.

*RTFA*

...oh for fark's sake.
2013-02-23 06:52:40 AM
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ghare: Mentat: I'm not accusing him of anything, but don't you think the American people would like to know if a sitting US Senator was anonymously accepting campaign funds from a foreign government via superPACS?  Again, I'm not accusing Senator Cruz of anything, but the fact that he hasn't proven that this hasn't happened is telling.

I heard it was Russia. Can you confirm this?


I can confirm that you heard it was Russia.
2013-02-23 06:49:06 AM
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Mentat: I'm not accusing him of anything, but don't you think the American people would like to know if a sitting US Senator was anonymously accepting campaign funds from a foreign government via superPACS?  Again, I'm not accusing Senator Cruz of anything, but the fact that he hasn't proven that this hasn't happened is telling.


I heard it was Russia. Can you confirm this?
 
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