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(Buzzfeed)   Fifteen photographs from a child survivalist training session, an encounter that pairs 9 year-old kids with AK-47s   (buzzfeed.com ) divider line
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2013-02-23 02:13:29 AM  
6 votes:
I'm pretty much a gun nut, but these people are weird. I think teaching kids and young adults to shoot and proper firearms safety is important if guns are going to be present in the household. But putting little kids in t-shirts that say they're willing to fight and die for their 2nd amendment rights is pretty sick.
2013-02-23 05:39:14 AM  
4 votes:
Every free man and woman should understand the basics of being a rifleman.
2013-02-22 11:43:44 PM  
4 votes:
Girl has great trigger discipline.
2013-02-23 05:13:59 AM  
3 votes:
I don't see all that much wrong with this. However, these guys remind me of the guy who is a karate master, but when he finds himself in a real situation, has a hard time with the execution of his skillset.

It's ok if you wanna be fat, but can you see these guys running through the woods with all that gear and weaponry when you are facing real people with real guns and you actually have to move your ass with a quickness lest you be dead? That goes for the guys who aren't fat either..

It's all fun and games, till they start shootin back.
2013-02-23 07:33:34 AM  
2 votes:
These people who are going to defend against government tyranny with AK-47s . . . they do know that the American government has nuclear weapons, right?
2013-02-23 07:10:28 AM  
2 votes:
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I hate when people douchify an sks.

if you want a "tacticool" rifle to play GI Joe with and mod up and stuff get a new AR or something. Leave the old school e. bloc stuf alone.
2013-02-23 06:46:36 AM  
2 votes:
Best kind of societies are the ones where kids play soldier with live ammo!www.eyeseeonline.com
2013-02-23 06:11:46 AM  
2 votes:
Oh noes. A bunch of rednecks went camping with some guns. Alert the farking  media.
2013-02-23 05:56:10 AM  
2 votes:

publikenemy: It's all fun and games, till they start shootin back.


The purpose of keeping weapons around isn't just for rebellion against the government, its also to protect yourself from other citizens (which, among unlikely scenarios, is the likeliest).

To that end you don't need the same level of training as some guy going off to kick in doors in Kandahar.
The folks you'll be up against, at worse, will be similarly unskilled militia or former military looking for easier targets than an armed camping party.
2013-02-23 05:48:42 AM  
2 votes:
They don't look especially skilled at handling weapons. It also doesn't look like they're being particularly safe with them.
2013-02-23 04:12:03 AM  
2 votes:
I have relatives who have taken their kids hunting from the time they were tiny--my one cousin's oldest kid was about 6 when he got his first deer (kid's going to be the only multi-lingual Hispanic American Florida redneck on the planet). I don't have any problem with teaching kids about guns, but these people are farking nuts. It's like little kids playacting in the woods but with real weapons believing that they're fighting a real threat. Their connection with reality is tenuous and they've dragged their kids into it with them.
2013-02-23 01:46:35 AM  
2 votes:
I'll never understand how these survival groups plan to survive anything considering they seem very physically unfit. It seems like physical fitness should be priority #1, and playing dress-up in the woods would be somewhere a bit further down the list.
2013-02-23 01:09:32 AM  
2 votes:
Rwanda and Somalia think it's cute you think 9 is too young for an AK.
2013-02-22 11:49:38 PM  
2 votes:
Should I be surprised at the number of fat people in those pictures?
2013-02-23 12:16:50 PM  
1 vote:

Click Click D'oh: Rreal: Being that most of the weapons shown are assault rifles, ...

Instead of just counting the same SKS five times since it shows up in multiple pictures, let's actually break down the rifles in the pictures.

There is:
(1) AR-15
(1) SKS with a brown Tapco Stock
(1) SKS with a wood stock
(1) SAR-1 (AK Clone)
(1) Marlin .22
(1) Unknown .22
(1) .22 lever rifle
(1) Ruger 10/22

That means there are as many squirrel guns in these photos as there are scary "assault rifles"

Here's the real trick for people that saw the pictures, but didn't actually look at them.  I've already noted that everyone seems to have missed the chamber flags... which didn't stop some people from ranting about "children handling dangerous loaded weapons".... but I dare anyone to find a spare magazine on any of the people carrying detachable magazine firearms.  Empty pouches every where.  I'm willing to bet there isn't a single round of ammunition anywhere close by.


A gun is loaded, period. The safety flags are great, and I fully approve, but if you're not correct and there are some rounds in there, curious little fingers can put any of those guns back into operation with the flick of a wrist. You don't give kids firearms in loosely structured environments like that. They could very easily sub in airsoft or paintball guns and they should have.
2013-02-23 11:55:19 AM  
1 vote:
I'll defend to YOUR death my right to keep my guns.
Sound much better.
2013-02-23 11:22:47 AM  
1 vote:

BraveNewCheneyWorld: misanthropologist: I'm less concerned about the kids being around guns - with or without ammo - than I am about the 10 year old (?) in a t-shirt that says he's willing to kill anyone who threatens to take away his guns. That is some seriously farked up shiat right there. Indoctrinating children into the belief that there will come a time when you have to murder people who don't share your political views is pretty depressing. Play with guns, and do it safely, but don't turn kids into violent little warmongers.

Would you have a problem with a kid in a t-shirt that stated he's willing to kill anyone who tries to reintroduce slavery?


Yes, I would. Because the problem is not the defense of a constitutional amendment, but rather the threat of using violence to defend it. Also, there's a subtle but very important difference between "I'll kill anyone who tries to take away my rights" and "I'll defend to my death against anyone trying to take away my rights" (as in the famous quote by Voltaire "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"). I'm willing to die defending my family, but I'm far less willing to kill to defend my family, to the point that I would do pretty much whatever possible to avoid having to kill. The t-shirt this little kid was wearing in the picture is a celebration of his willingness to kill. That's gruesome.
2013-02-23 10:42:22 AM  
1 vote:

Click Click D'oh: Rreal: Being that most of the weapons shown are assault rifles, ...

Instead of just counting the same SKS five times since it shows up in multiple pictures, let's actually break down the rifles in the pictures.

There is:
(1) AR-15
(1) SKS with a brown Tapco Stock
(1) SKS with a wood stock
(1) SAR-1 (AK Clone)
(1) Marlin .22
(1) Unknown .22
(1) .22 lever rifle
(1) Ruger 10/22

That means there are as many squirrel guns in these photos as there are scary "assault rifles"

Here's the real trick for people that saw the pictures, but didn't actually look at them.  I've already noted that everyone seems to have missed the chamber flags... which didn't stop some people from ranting about "children handling dangerous loaded weapons".... but I dare anyone to find a spare magazine on any of the people carrying detachable magazine firearms.  Empty pouches every where.  I'm willing to bet there isn't a single round of ammunition anywhere close by.


I'm less concerned about the kids being around guns - with or without ammo - than I am about the 10 year old (?) in a t-shirt that says he's willing to kill anyone who threatens to take away his guns. That is some seriously farked up shiat right there. Indoctrinating children into the belief that there will come a time when you have to murder people who don't share your political views is pretty depressing. Play with guns, and do it safely, but don't turn kids into violent little warmongers.
2013-02-23 10:40:13 AM  
1 vote:

GanjSmokr: In all seriousness, if PersonA sees PersonB doing some activity or owning some item and PersonA thinks "Hmmm, PersonB must have a small penis.", it's not PersonB that has a problem.


It's not the object being owned.  It's the vigorous need to let everyone they come in contact with know that they have it and how much they love it and OMG IT'S JUST SO GREAT TO BE A PATRIOT WITH A GUN FARK YEAH I GOT A GUN!

It's the attitude around it, not the object itself.  But keep up your straw man.
2013-02-23 10:18:51 AM  
1 vote:
Looks like the nine year old was learning with a .22. The same thing we were learning with as 8-9 year olds in boy scouts. Oh noes people wearing camo, camping in the woods and teaching the kids to shoot. In other words, meh.
2013-02-23 09:40:46 AM  
1 vote:

GanjSmokr: There are fewer and fewer people in these threads who aren't afraid to pull out the old "haha you have a tiny peener, gun nut!!!!" line.   Good for you (and Shadowknight) for keeping at it!  Not many are as brave and strong willed as you.  Bravo.


I'm not saying anyone who owns a gun, or even is an enthusiast, have self worth or insecurity issues.  I own a few guns myself (though they are back with my brother in the States while we finish up our overseas station here in Spain).  But anyone who takes it to this extreme, and structure their entire life around them, is obviously compensating for something.  Whether it be daddy issues, paranoid schizophrenia, or a small dick, they are doing it for a reason.

It's just easier to go "ha, small dick" than write all that out, though.

/it's also a joke
//untwist your panties, lady
2013-02-23 09:36:48 AM  
1 vote:

Nuclear Monk: Notabunny: serial_crusher: max_pooper: Should I be surprised at the number of fat people in those pictures?

Pretty much this. I guess part of their survival plan involves storing up calories for hibernation?

Survival in Florida does not require being able to do a situp, or a pushup, or a chinup, or being able to see your toes.

It is an ancient martial art...taught to the people of Florida by the gods themselves.  It is...the Way of the Manatee.


i had plans to write a book once, where everyone got too fat in Florida, and no one was able to pick up chicks, so they all went gay
and called each other Manatees

i called it the Manatee Project
2013-02-23 09:34:06 AM  
1 vote:
An "enemy" could easily track these guys by their trail of Cheetos.
2013-02-23 08:44:30 AM  
1 vote:
The worrisome part is that they consider fellow Americans who disagree with them as the enemy.
2013-02-23 08:11:06 AM  
1 vote:
Shadowknight: BraveNewCheneyWorld: swingerofbirches: These people who are going to defend against government tyranny with AK-47s . . . they do know that the American government has nuclear weapons, right?

Yeah, because if you're going to fight an insurgency, nuking your own land is a fantastic, and not at all self defeating strategy.

Forget the nukes. Tactical bombs, cruise missiles, long range artillery, tanks, shoulder mounted weapons capable of taking down a house... All this stuff kind of makes the whole point of the second amendment a bit moot. Back when it was created, the citizens had the same access to the same weapons as the army, give or take a cannon or two. The only thing that would stop today's US military would be the unwillingness of the army to wage total war on the populous and the actual military members unwillingness to attack their own countrymen.

Hardware wise, you aren't going to "survive" long against an organization that could atomize your entire camp from a ship hundreds of miles away.


Even with the weapons we have today, good luck fighting any kind of sizable insurgency hidden within the land area of the U.S., that also happens to be the origin of your own supply lines. Wars are not won solely by those people on the front lines, the bulk of the victory is behind the lines in the manufacturing and supply chain. 3 guys in a tank can kill a hundred people, but take away that supply chain and a hundred people will kill that tank crew with ease. You're talking out of your ass, you know literally nothing about war.

Shadowknight: badhatharry: Is that why they don't teach kids about Patrick Henry in school?

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Somehow, I just don't see teaching your kids that death is preferable to slavery as remotely immoral.

I see a difference in teaching kids about it, and actually advocating and wearing branded gear saying that they are willing to die for it.  As a kid, I was taught about slavery, and the ultimate causes of the Civil War, and decided myself that yeah, it would have been a cause worth fighting and dying for.  These guys are putting a deadly toy in their hand and telling them "People out there want to take this penis extension from you. You need to be willing to die to stop them."

I can see the difference, myself.


"that's different" isn't an argument.

And the whole "penis extension" thing.. just makes you look like an asshole who can't think for him/herself.
2013-02-23 07:49:01 AM  
1 vote:

BraveNewCheneyWorld: swingerofbirches: These people who are going to defend against government tyranny with AK-47s . . . they do know that the American government has nuclear weapons, right?

Yeah, because if you're going to fight an insurgency, nuking your own land is a fantastic, and not at all self defeating strategy.


Forget the nukes.  Tactical bombs, cruise missiles, long range artillery, tanks, shoulder mounted weapons capable of taking down a house...  All this stuff kind of makes the whole point of the second amendment a bit moot.  Back when it was created, the citizens had the same access to the same weapons as the army, give or take a cannon or two.  The only thing that would stop today's US military would be the unwillingness of the army to wage total war on the populous and the actual military members unwillingness to attack their own countrymen.  

Hardware wise, you aren't going to "survive" long against an organization that could atomize your entire camp from a ship hundreds of miles away.
2013-02-23 07:34:10 AM  
1 vote:
Very weak propaganda. The photo-journalist version of "Stop liking what I don't like!".
2013-02-23 06:46:34 AM  
1 vote:
Survivalists can be shiathead parents. I knew a guy who'd been utterly abandoned in the woods for 3 days for the 'lesson' of living off the land. Today, he makes glass marijuana pipes and vends at music events. Sure beats searching for water.
2013-02-23 06:25:41 AM  
1 vote:

Gyrfalcon: HindiDiscoMonster: Fail in Human Form: tinfoil-hat maggie: Sorry I've known to many rednecks and their not gonna change.

Don't worry, the federal government is coming up with ways to deal with it:

"Detailed information on each category of ideological motivation can be found in the Profiles of Perpetrators of Terrorism-United States report compiled by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism (Miller, Smarick, and Simone, 2011). Briefly, the report describes each category as follows:

Extreme Right-Wing: groups that believe that one's personal and/or national "way of life" is under attack and is either already lost or that the threat is imminent (for some the threat is from a specific ethnic, racial, or religious group), and believe in the need to be prepared for an attack either by participating in paramilitary preparations and training or survivalism.

Groups may also be fiercely nationalistic (as opposed to universal and international in orientation), anti-global, suspicious of centralized federal authority,  reverent of individual liberty, and believe in conspiracy theories that involve grave threat to national sovereignty and/or personal liberty."

sounds like these terrorists:
[www.stufffundieslike.com image 600x300]

Except for the bit about their way of life being under attack, imminent threat, ultranationalism, suspicion of central authority, and conspiracy theories; yeah, exactly like that.


You can't be serious
2013-02-23 06:24:34 AM  
1 vote:

HindiDiscoMonster: Fail in Human Form: tinfoil-hat maggie: Sorry I've known to many rednecks and their not gonna change.

Don't worry, the federal government is coming up with ways to deal with it:

"Detailed information on each category of ideological motivation can be found in the Profiles of Perpetrators of Terrorism-United States report compiled by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism (Miller, Smarick, and Simone, 2011). Briefly, the report describes each category as follows:

Extreme Right-Wing: groups that believe that one's personal and/or national "way of life" is under attack and is either already lost or that the threat is imminent (for some the threat is from a specific ethnic, racial, or religious group), and believe in the need to be prepared for an attack either by participating in paramilitary preparations and training or survivalism.

Groups may also be fiercely nationalistic (as opposed to universal and international in orientation), anti-global, suspicious of centralized federal authority,  reverent of individual liberty, and believe in conspiracy theories that involve grave threat to national sovereignty and/or personal liberty."

sounds like these terrorists:
[www.stufffundieslike.com image 600x300]


Except for the bit about their way of life being under attack, imminent threat, ultranationalism, suspicion of central authority, and conspiracy theories; yeah, exactly like that.
2013-02-23 06:16:12 AM  
1 vote:

Fail in Human Form: tinfoil-hat maggie: Sorry I've known to many rednecks and their not gonna change.

Don't worry, the federal government is coming up with ways to deal with it:

"Detailed information on each category of ideological motivation can be found in the Profiles of Perpetrators of Terrorism-United States report compiled by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism (Miller, Smarick, and Simone, 2011). Briefly, the report describes each category as follows:

Extreme Right-Wing: groups that believe that one's personal and/or national "way of life" is under attack and is either already lost or that the threat is imminent (for some the threat is from a specific ethnic, racial, or religious group), and believe in the need to be prepared for an attack either by participating in paramilitary preparations and training or survivalism.

Groups may also be fiercely nationalistic (as opposed to universal and international in orientation), anti-global, suspicious of centralized federal authority,  reverent of individual liberty, and believe in conspiracy theories that involve grave threat to national sovereignty and/or personal liberty."


sounds like these terrorists:
www.stufffundieslike.com
2013-02-23 06:11:15 AM  
1 vote:

borg: [s3-ec.buzzfed.com image 850x565]This kid is terrified of his father


nah... he just wants his xbox
2013-02-23 06:08:25 AM  
1 vote:
25.media.tumblr.com

/can't wait till the rest of Fark wakes up...
//prediction: at least 500 but not more than 1000
2013-02-23 06:06:55 AM  
1 vote:
Looks more like douchebag training.
2013-02-23 06:02:29 AM  
1 vote:
pjmedia.com
2013-02-23 06:00:04 AM  
1 vote:

borg: [s3-ec.buzzfed.com image 850x565]This kid is terrified of his father


Not just that, but you can almost read that entire families future therapy bills in that one picture.  Look at how earnestly the little girl wants to be exactly the child daddy wanted, and how pudgy, neurotic and frazzled the little boy is over knowing that it's him instead but every time he miss-steps or makes even a minor mistake daddy will explode.  You can't even see his head but you can tell Daddy is focusing his attention almost completely to the side the boy is on.


/oooorrr, we're both reading too much into it.
2013-02-23 05:57:51 AM  
1 vote:

namatad: thugs with guns
every post-apocalyptic novel pits the rational collaborators against thugs with guns.
why share or plan in advance when all you need is bunch of jimbos with guns.

For these people, The Ant and the Grasshopper ends with the Grasshopper mowing down the Ant and eating all the Ant's stored food.


And for many liberals, it ends with the government taxing the ant because it's just not fair to the grasshopper.
2013-02-23 05:46:38 AM  
1 vote:
Apparently jerk-off material for at least one farker in this thread.
2013-02-23 05:42:02 AM  
1 vote:

serial_crusher: max_pooper: Should I be surprised at the number of fat people in those pictures?

Pretty much this. I guess part of their survival plan involves storing up calories for hibernation?


Survival in Florida does not require being able to do a situp, or a pushup, or a chinup, or being able to see your toes.
2013-02-23 03:10:09 AM  
1 vote:

borg: [s3-ec.buzzfed.com image 850x565]This kid is terrified of his father


as well he should be. a crappy tapco SKS and a 38 for a sidearm? obviously his father knows nothing about guns! personally i carry a Beretta 92A1, a glock 19, and a glock 26 in my bugout kit- one in the pocket, two on the vest. 2 extra mags for each. my MBR is a Colt LE6920 with 400rds of tracer-LAP-Ball-Ball-Ball rotation in pmags. thats how a real american defends his woods! and by george, if i have to snipe me a critter, my mosin is up to the task. while heavy and unportable, for an encampment it makes a fine deer gun. not to mention that my YHM 7.62 Phantom works well on all the above rifles!
2013-02-23 02:53:45 AM  
1 vote:
Blue shirt girl.
2013-02-23 02:12:49 AM  
1 vote:
s3-ec.buzzfed.comThis kid is terrified of his father
2013-02-23 12:15:32 AM  
1 vote:
s3-ec.buzzfed.com

Creepy.
2013-02-23 12:13:17 AM  
1 vote:
Yeah, I think I feel safer having the US Armed Forces protecting us instead of these assclowns
 
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