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2013-02-23 11:55:19 AM  
I'll defend to YOUR death my right to keep my guns.
Sound much better.
 
2013-02-23 12:04:20 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: misanthropologist: BraveNewCheneyWorld: misanthropologist: I'm less concerned about the kids being around guns - with or without ammo - than I am about the 10 year old (?) in a t-shirt that says he's willing to kill anyone who threatens to take away his guns. That is some seriously farked up shiat right there. Indoctrinating children into the belief that there will come a time when you have to murder people who don't share your political views is pretty depressing. Play with guns, and do it safely, but don't turn kids into violent little warmongers.

Would you have a problem with a kid in a t-shirt that stated he's willing to kill anyone who tries to reintroduce slavery?

Yes, I would. Because the problem is not the defense of a constitutional amendment, but rather the threat of using violence to defend it. Also, there's a subtle but very important difference between "I'll kill anyone who tries to take away my rights" and "I'll defend to my death against anyone trying to take away my rights" (as in the famous quote by Voltaire "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"). I'm willing to die defending my family, but I'm far less willing to kill to defend my family, to the point that I would do pretty much whatever possible to avoid having to kill. The t-shirt this little kid was wearing in the picture is a celebration of his willingness to kill. That's gruesome.

Good for you that you're trying to be holier than thou, but even the Dali Lama has said that violence is sometimes necessary.


I'm not trying to be holier than anyone, especially not thou. What I'm saying is that there is an important and valuable distinction between recognizing that violence may be necessary as a last resort, in a worst case scenario, and celebrating and flaunting one's willingness to resort to violence as a means to intimidate others.

By the way, the simplistic interpretation of the Dalai Lama's (and Buddhism in general's) perspective on violence/non-violence doesn't really do him or Buddhism justice. Here's something to read to help you think about how complicated life really is: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/andrewbrown/2010/jun/21/dalai - lama-armed-forces-day-message
 
2013-02-23 12:04:55 PM  

swangoatman: I'll defend to YOUR death my right to keep my guns.
Sound much better.


Well said.
 
2013-02-23 12:13:15 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I'll never understand how these survival groups plan to survive anything considering they seem very physically unfit. It seems like physical fitness should be priority #1, and playing dress-up in the woods would be somewhere a bit further down the list.


Yeah, instead of stockpiling bullets, shouldn't they be stockpiling high cholesterol medicine?
 
2013-02-23 12:16:50 PM  

Click Click D'oh: Rreal: Being that most of the weapons shown are assault rifles, ...

Instead of just counting the same SKS five times since it shows up in multiple pictures, let's actually break down the rifles in the pictures.

There is:
(1) AR-15
(1) SKS with a brown Tapco Stock
(1) SKS with a wood stock
(1) SAR-1 (AK Clone)
(1) Marlin .22
(1) Unknown .22
(1) .22 lever rifle
(1) Ruger 10/22

That means there are as many squirrel guns in these photos as there are scary "assault rifles"

Here's the real trick for people that saw the pictures, but didn't actually look at them.  I've already noted that everyone seems to have missed the chamber flags... which didn't stop some people from ranting about "children handling dangerous loaded weapons".... but I dare anyone to find a spare magazine on any of the people carrying detachable magazine firearms.  Empty pouches every where.  I'm willing to bet there isn't a single round of ammunition anywhere close by.


A gun is loaded, period. The safety flags are great, and I fully approve, but if you're not correct and there are some rounds in there, curious little fingers can put any of those guns back into operation with the flick of a wrist. You don't give kids firearms in loosely structured environments like that. They could very easily sub in airsoft or paintball guns and they should have.
 
2013-02-23 12:20:58 PM  

misanthropologist: What I'm saying is that there is an important and valuable distinction between recognizing that violence may be necessary as a last resort, in a worst case scenario, and celebrating and flaunting one's willingness to resort to violence as a means to intimidate others.


I think you're projecting the "celebration and flaunting".  These are not readily evident from the mere act of training and preparation, are they?

misanthropologist: By the way, the simplistic interpretation of the Dalai Lama's (and Buddhism in general's) perspective on violence/non-violence doesn't really do him or Buddhism justice. Here's something to read to help you think about how complicated life really is: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/andrewbrown/2010/jun/21/dalai - lama-armed-forces-day-message


I didn't provide any examples apart from his statement that violence is sometimes necessary, so I'm wondering why you make the assumption that my interpretation is simplistic.
 
2013-02-23 12:24:50 PM  

sleeper2995: Great! This thread again. Wait. I'm being obtuse. Hopefully the rest of the people on Fark will realize that the majority of gun owners aren't crazy militant hillbillies who only own guns because they think the government is out to get them.


Oh no.  They're also totally paranoid of their neighbors too.  You know, those people who live close by and whom one would normally have some sort of friendly relationship with?  Yeah, most people don't even bother getting to know their neighbors anymore.
 
2013-02-23 12:28:02 PM  

Straelbora: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I'll never understand how these survival groups plan to survive anything considering they seem very physically unfit. It seems like physical fitness should be priority #1, and playing dress-up in the woods would be somewhere a bit further down the list.

Yeah, instead of stockpiling bullets, shouldn't they be stockpiling high cholesterol medicine?


Take away the "diet" soda, go for a walk in the woods, and they will be fine.
Back in the day, it was Cowboys and Indians.
Cowboys and Muslims is no diff.
 
2013-02-23 12:29:24 PM  

swangoatman: No they do not consider a person who disagrees with them as the enemy.
 it is the person who actively is attempting to take their perceived rights away from them who is considered their enemy.


They don't seem to demonstrate that they see much difference between the people described in your first sentence and the people in your second sentence.
 
2013-02-23 12:38:02 PM  

publikenemy: I don't see all that much wrong with this. However, these guys remind me of the guy who is a karate master, but when he finds himself in a real situation, has a hard time with the execution of his skillset.

It's ok if you wanna be fat, but can you see these guys running through the woods with all that gear and weaponry when you are facing real people with real guns and you actually have to move your ass with a quickness lest you be dead? That goes for the guys who aren't fat either..

It's all fun and games, till they start shootin back.


I've kinda wanted to see a group of "survivalists" to against an average teenage paintball team. It's not the same as real combat, but it should be amusing to watch them get their asses kicked because they're too winded to run from cover to cover with any kind of speed.

The excuses from a bunch of 40 year olds who like to play dress-up in the woods would be the greatest thing ever. Especially when you point out that, if they can't perform in a simple exercise like paintball, how the fark are they gonna stand up to a real, trained force with better weapons, armor and intelligence?
 
2013-02-23 12:50:49 PM  

Coolfusis: publikenemy: I don't see all that much wrong with this. However, these guys remind me of the guy who is a karate master, but when he finds himself in a real situation, has a hard time with the execution of his skillset.

It's ok if you wanna be fat, but can you see these guys running through the woods with all that gear and weaponry when you are facing real people with real guns and you actually have to move your ass with a quickness lest you be dead? That goes for the guys who aren't fat either..

It's all fun and games, till they start shootin back.

I've kinda wanted to see a group of "survivalists" to against an average teenage paintball team. It's not the same as real combat, but it should be amusing to watch them get their asses kicked because they're too winded to run from cover to cover with any kind of speed.

The excuses from a bunch of 40 year olds who like to play dress-up in the woods would be the greatest thing ever. Especially when you point out that, if they can't perform in a simple exercise like paintball, how the fark are they gonna stand up to a real, trained force with better weapons, armor and intelligence?


I'd tell ya, but then,,,
 
2013-02-23 12:52:54 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: kids with guns thread...
needs more Carl
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2013-02-23 12:57:19 PM  

swangoatman: I'll defend to YOUR death my right to keep my guns.
Sound much better.


We all saw how well that mentality worked out for Dorner.
 
2013-02-23 01:06:15 PM  

willfullyobscure:
A gun is loaded, period.

Okay, let's play the Sanctimonious About the Four Rules game.  Let's pretend that these guys safety measures only extend so far as what we can see in the pictures (verifiable empty firearms and no live ammunition allowed).  Find a single safety violation by a single person in any photo.  Not a single firearm pointed at another person, not a single finger on a trigger.  Adult or child.

As crazy as these people may appear to be, there isn't an indication anywhere in any of the photos that their safety is anything but top notch.

Kids with firearms is a common occurrence once we get away from the panty wetting city dwellers.


willfullyobscure: You don't give kids firearms in loosely structured environments like that.


Except that for generations kids have been given firearms and told to go get dinner without any adult supervision what so ever.

The problem with the gun control crowd is that they project their own failings and insecurity onto others and assume they are as irresponsible as they are.
 
2013-02-23 01:08:52 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: jso2897: Jon iz teh kewl: AK-47's, glocks.  they're all the same if u ask me

Yeah, it's pretty much boring nerd-shiat if yoiu don't have OCD or Asperger's.Fail in Human Form: Every free man and woman should understand the basics of being a rifleman.

Well, basically, this is your rifle, and this is your gun............

i looooove that movie


Platoon 2074, 1981, San Diego.

SSgt Hall was R. Lee's farkin' twin.

Loved the movie? I lived the movie.

"Recruit, $600 worth of uniform, and you still look like a bag of shiat"

/good times, good times
//teach the kid accuracy first, then teach them controlled rapid fire
 
2013-02-23 01:09:03 PM  

Click Click D'oh: Kids with firearms is a common occurrence once we get away from the panty wetting city dwellers.


Kids with firearms is a common occurrence in cities too. It's just a different kind of experience.
 
2013-02-23 01:09:52 PM  
Why do these types of people think it appropriate to sex-up young girls? This is a 9-year-old with a hair dye job.

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Oh, I guess they are just laying in a supply for when they retreat to their bunker. Little fat boy looks on in dismay when he realizes he won't be invited to help repopulate the race.

s3-ec.buzzfed.com
 
2013-02-23 01:14:34 PM  
s3-ec.buzzfed.com

Are we becoming what we fear:

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-23 01:17:01 PM  

Coolfusis: I've kinda wanted to see a group of "survivalists" to against an average teenage paintball team. It's not the same as real combat, but it should be amusing to watch them get their asses kicked because they're too winded to run from cover to cover with any kind of speed.


Yeah, that would be kind of funny...  It would last all of about two seconds until the whole paintball team was dead because they never realized that 5.56 and 7.62 will zip clean through that 1/4 inch plywood they are hiding behind.  Of course, their buddy would be arguing that he's not really dead because it was just bunker splatter.

Not that paintballers are any better that lardo militia members.  I don't know how many times I saw a lardass bunkering on his knees using  his middle finger to fip fip fip a small fortune of paintballs out of an autococker held up next to his ear.
 
2013-02-23 01:26:05 PM  

Agent Smiths Laugh: Are we becoming what we fear:


American kids have better trigger discipline
 
2013-02-23 01:30:41 PM  

Benjamin Orr: Agent Smiths Laugh: Are we becoming what we fear:

American kids have better trigger discipline


American kids also have the muzzles pointed in a safe direction.
 
2013-02-23 01:30:43 PM  
ugh, this is NOT needed. Geez!

Guns don't solve CRAP! These kids need to learn how to grow a backbone and emotional empowerment rather than how shoot a damn gun.

/why yes, I am a liberal
//a dirty, proud liberal!
 
2013-02-23 01:39:35 PM  

Mark Ratner: max_pooper: Should I be surprised at the number of fat people in those pictures?

The camera adds 10 lbs.


So they had six or seven cameras pointed at them then?
 
2013-02-23 01:42:46 PM  

mafiageek1980: ugh, this is NOT needed. Geez!

Guns don't solve CRAP! These kids need to learn how to grow a backbone and emotional empowerment rather than how shoot a damn gun.

/why yes, I am a liberal
//a dirty, proud liberal!


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2013-02-23 01:43:32 PM  

Schroedinger's Glory Hole: Shadowknight: GanjSmokr: There are fewer and fewer people in these threads who aren't afraid to pull out the old "haha you have a tiny peener, gun nut!!!!" line.   Good for you (and Shadowknight) for keeping at it!  Not many are as brave and strong willed as you.  Bravo.

I'm not saying anyone who owns a gun, or even is an enthusiast, have self worth or insecurity issues.  I own a few guns myself (though they are back with my brother in the States while we finish up our overseas station here in Spain).  But anyone who takes it to this extreme, and structure their entire life around them, is obviously compensating for something.  Whether it be daddy issues, paranoid schizophrenia, or a small dick, they are doing it for a reason.

It's just easier to go "ha, small dick" than write all that out, though.

/it's also a joke
//untwist your panties, lady

No, it's bush league and makes us look bad.  You're like an Uncle Tom of rational people.  Stop it.


"Us"? Jesus, it's Fark for fark's sake. If commenting on a message board is such serious business to you or a topic so dear to your heart that you can't relax then you have issues yourself. Small penis perhaps? :p
 
2013-02-23 01:44:11 PM  
L'il porker needs that rifle in case someone comes after his cheesy poofs.
 
2013-02-23 01:45:52 PM  

jaybeezey: swingerofbirches: These people who are going to defend against government tyranny with AK-47s . . . they do know that the American government has nuclear weapons, right?

I'm pretty sure the American Govt has a NO NUKES AT HOME policy.

Thanks for playing though.


And you think that if it ever got to the point where the US government was thinking of using nukes against its own citizens that policy, legality or even the Constitution would slow it down?  There are plenty of Alberto Gonzalezes willing to contrive a legal argument covering anything any despot would wish to do.
 
2013-02-23 01:53:52 PM  
GI Joe LARPers
 
2013-02-23 01:53:53 PM  

Click Click D'oh: willfullyobscure:A gun is loaded, period. Okay, let's play the Sanctimonious About the Four Rules


I already said that I didn't see much of anything that would make a RSO stroke out. My preference for that drill would be mags out as well as breech open/safety flagged. That's only because I'm not fond of getting shot, YMMV.


Click Click D'oh: Kids with firearms is a common occurrence once we get away from the panty wetting city dwellers.


9 years old is too young to be twirling an AK like a baton, sorry. She shouldn't have any kind of responsibility for that thing other than maybe shooting it while Dad helps her hold it. Trotting it around camp like that is not kosher.
 
2013-02-23 01:55:17 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: mafiageek1980: ugh, this is NOT needed. Geez!

Guns don't solve CRAP! These kids need to learn how to grow a backbone and emotional empowerment rather than how shoot a damn gun.

/why yes, I am a liberal
//a dirty, proud liberal!

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sorry, can't see the image you were trying to convey
 
2013-02-23 02:00:04 PM  

mafiageek1980: The_Original_Roxtar: mafiageek1980: ugh, this is NOT needed. Geez!

Guns don't solve CRAP! These kids need to learn how to grow a backbone and emotional empowerment rather than how shoot a damn gun.

/why yes, I am a liberal
//a dirty, proud liberal!

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sorry, can't see the image you were trying to convey


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-86ax7TYNM
 
2013-02-23 02:03:27 PM  
Hurr 2nd Amendment rights mudderfark-uh
 
2013-02-23 02:31:26 PM  

mittromneysdog: BraveNewCheneyWorld: "that's different" isn't an argument.

"That's different" is the whole basis of western jurisprudence since probably the Roman Empire. It's all about whether this case is different or the same as the last case like it. Someone should tell every lawyer for the past two and a half millennia that they haven't been making arguments.

And the whole "penis extension" thing.. just makes you look like an asshole who can't think for him/herself.

Looks like someone hit a nerve. Welcome to Fark. In fact, empirical research shows a link between firearms fanaticism and small penis size. Moreover, degree of fanaticism correlates with smallness of penis. Science.


Freud said it best: "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity"

But do continue with your observation of penii, you may get a date yet!

/a scope on a combloc semi?
//ok, that's just stupid
///unless it's a draganov
 
2013-02-23 02:33:32 PM  
I remember the first time i got to shoot an ar15. I was 9.

I honestly believe that firearms safety should be taught to every child. Learn the rules. Learn how they work. over exposing them to gun safety when young takes away the OHHH AHHH factor so that later on in life if you ever come across one the mystery and naughtyness of playing with guns is over and they don't go hiding it to show their friends and accidentally blow little suzies head off.

Kids are curious creatures. exposing them to dangerous things in a well supervised environment is the best way to ensure they know how to act properly when they are unsupervised.

list of things done as a child that would cause helicopter parents to wharbelgharble

played with fire (burn piles of dead brush)
drove the truck on private roads
given pocket knife at 8
bows n arrows
bb guns
real guns (with supervision)
rock climbing no ropes
camping alone

the list goes on. today mom and dad would probably get a visit from CPS

we lived in rattlesnake/mountain lion territory so i understand that it's different from growing up in an urban environment. but learning to prepare for danger and defend yourself shouldn't be belittled.
 
2013-02-23 02:41:39 PM  

Click Click D'oh: willfullyobscure:
A gun is loaded, period.

Okay, let's play the Sanctimonious About the Four Rules game.  Let's pretend that these guys safety measures only extend so far as what we can see in the pictures (verifiable empty firearms and no live ammunition allowed).  Find a single safety violation by a single person in any photo.  Not a single firearm pointed at another person, not a single finger on a trigger.  Adult or child.

As crazy as these people may appear to be, there isn't an indication anywhere in any of the photos that their safety is anything but top notch.

Kids with firearms is a common occurrence once we get away from the panty wetting city dwellers.


willfullyobscure: You don't give kids firearms in loosely structured environments like that.

Except that for generations kids have been given firearms and told to go get dinner without any adult supervision what so ever.

The problem with the gun control crowd is that they project their own failings and insecurity onto others and assume they are as irresponsible as they are.


A monstrous  THIS.
 
2013-02-23 02:42:33 PM  
These people are a solution looking for a problem. They'll invent one soon enough.
 
2013-02-23 02:46:03 PM  

mrexcess: [i.imgur.com image 605x412]


That's one sexy Bull Moose.
 
2013-02-23 02:53:48 PM  
Mark Ratner: Pffft, I prefer a phased plasma rifle in a 40 watt range.

hey buddy, just what you see here.
 
2013-02-23 03:05:28 PM  

fknra: Kids are curious creatures. exposing them to dangerous things in a well supervised environment is the best way to ensure they know how to act properly when they are unsupervised.


This is so true.  I remember when I was probably about 6 years old, I was watching my grandfather working on something in the garage.  There was an object on the counter that I was curious about.  Naturally I went to grab it and he instantly stopped me, told me not to touch it and threw it in a drawer.  A few hours later I just had to see what it was, so I quickly grabbed it while nobody was around and went off to examine it.  I noticed it had something that looked like a switch on it, pushed the switch and a razor sliced my hand open.  If only he told me what it was and why it was dangerous, I wouldn't have made that mistake.

People are curious by nature, children especially so.  It's better to remove the mystery while an adult is around, than to have a child stumble upon a dangerous object and leave them to their own immature judgement.
 
2013-02-23 03:06:55 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: mafiageek1980: The_Original_Roxtar: mafiageek1980: ugh, this is NOT needed. Geez!

Guns don't solve CRAP! These kids need to learn how to grow a backbone and emotional empowerment rather than how shoot a damn gun.

/why yes, I am a liberal
//a dirty, proud liberal!

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sorry, can't see the image you were trying to convey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-86ax7TYNM


LOL! I see your point, but they don't need the gun too.

/damn you, now I want Tacos!
 
2013-02-23 04:01:50 PM  

mafiageek1980: The_Original_Roxtar: mafiageek1980: The_Original_Roxtar: mafiageek1980: ugh, this is NOT needed. Geez!

Guns don't solve CRAP! These kids need to learn how to grow a backbone and emotional empowerment rather than how shoot a damn gun.

/why yes, I am a liberal
//a dirty, proud liberal!

[i2.kym-cdn.com image 260x260]

sorry, can't see the image you were trying to convey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-86ax7TYNM

LOL! I see your point, but they don't need the gun too.

/damn you, now I want Tacos!


you're right... it's best to keep people ignorant of the proper way to handle a firearm. keep guns as taboo as possible, so that the kids will have no interest in them. hell, that tactic works so well with drugs, alcohol, sex, tobacco...

bring up an entire generation comprised of hoplophobes on one side and idiots with no training on the other and you'll get that gun ban you're salivating over.
 
2013-02-23 04:42:19 PM  
I'm a gun-free society type, but this story smacks of the sneering superiority you get from certain comfortable middleclass busybodies. Oh look, these people are different from us.

On the other hand, I hate to say this, but carrying guns around is not a sign of a civilised society. A civilised society is one where there is at least a basic level of trust in your fellow citizen and public institutions that you feel safe to disarm.
 
2013-02-23 04:43:38 PM  

Fail in Human Form: tinfoil-hat maggie: Sorry I've known to many rednecks and their not gonna change.

Don't worry, the federal government is coming up with ways to deal with it:

"Detailed information on each category of ideological motivation can be found in the Profiles of Perpetrators of Terrorism-United States report compiled by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism (Miller, Smarick, and Simone, 2011). Briefly, the report describes each category as follows:

Extreme Right-Wing: groups that believe that one's personal and/or national "way of life" is under attack and is either already lost or that the threat is imminent (for some the threat is from a specific ethnic, racial, or religious group), and believe in the need to be prepared for an attack either by participating in paramilitary preparations and training or survivalism.

Groups may also be fiercely nationalistic (as opposed to universal and international in orientation), anti-global, suspicious of centralized federal authority,  reverent of individual liberty, and believe in conspiracy theories that involve grave threat to national sovereignty and/or personal liberty."


The terribly sad part is that this describes a rational, intelligent individual with a strong ego and clear ideals as to what to do with it.

Since basically everything in the second paragraph is actually HAPPENING.
 
2013-02-23 04:54:30 PM  

mafiageek1980: ugh, this is NOT needed. Geez!

Guns don't solve CRAP! These kids need to learn how to grow a backbone and emotional empowerment rather than how shoot a damn gun.

/why yes, I am a liberal
//a dirty, proud liberal!




If 3 million Cambodians had 3 million rifles and 6 millions Jews had 6 million rifles how many would have died at the hands of a dictator? The 2nd amendment is not about hunting it's about tyrants
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And "Never Again" is just a stupid slogan it happens over and over again thanks to liberals like you. (The Cambodians were mostly likely shot in the head shortly after their photo was taken)
 
2013-02-23 04:55:16 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: mafiageek1980: The_Original_Roxtar: mafiageek1980: The_Original_Roxtar: mafiageek1980: ugh, this is NOT needed. Geez!

Guns don't solve CRAP! These kids need to learn how to grow a backbone and emotional empowerment rather than how shoot a damn gun.

/why yes, I am a liberal
//a dirty, proud liberal!

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sorry, can't see the image you were trying to convey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-86ax7TYNM

LOL! I see your point, but they don't need the gun too.

/damn you, now I want Tacos!

you're right... it's best to keep people ignorant of the proper way to handle a firearm. keep guns as taboo as possible, so that the kids will have no interest in them. hell, that tactic works so well with drugs, alcohol, sex, tobacco...

bring up an entire generation comprised of hoplophobes on one side and idiots with no training on the other and you'll get that gun ban you're salivating over.


and what's wrong with keeping them ignorant about hand guns? Why would they need to learn something that serves no other purpose than to kill or injure.

There's one thing to be AWARE of something, it's another to teach them how to USE the very thing that is meant to injure or kill
 
2013-02-23 05:05:50 PM  

Phoenix_M: If 3 million Cambodians had 3 million rifles and 6 millions Jews had 6 million rifles how many would have died at the hands of a dictator? The 2nd amendment is not about hunting it's about tyrants


The 2nd amendment expressly exists for the perpetuation of the federal government in the face of external threats, NOT for personal protection against one's own government.

Hence, "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free STATE..."
 
2013-02-23 05:09:52 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: [s3-ec.buzzfed.com image 850x565]

Creepy.


Depends. You don't know the back story. I'm guessing it is the dad. Still creepy but less so.
 
2013-02-23 05:27:21 PM  
Something seems really wrong with this picture.

s3-ec.buzzfed.com
 
2013-02-23 05:45:43 PM  

lewismarktwo: mittromneysdog: way south: The purpose of keeping weapons around isn't just for rebellion against the government,

You're right. The purpose of the 2nd Amendment was less to empower citizens to murder law enforcement officers, soldiers, and sailors. Its primary purpose was to guarantee the right of slave states to maintain militias to put down slave rebellions.

lols, you just can't make this stuff up. Or, rather, you can.


He is actually correct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_patrol
 
2013-02-23 05:55:04 PM  

Phoenix_M: If 3 million Cambodians had 3 million rifles and 6 millions Jews had 6 million rifles how many would hav


You really think fragmented and untrained civilians would have been able to successfully fight the military? Especially the German military?

Because I think that's just silly. In fact, I'm fairly sure that killing a soldier or two would probably have turned into torture and the most painful death imaginable pretty quickly.
 
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