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(CBC)   In Ontario, it's now ok for cops to rummage through your house whenever they like as long as you didn't lock your door   (cbc.ca) divider line 87
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2013-02-22 07:54:03 PM
it's not ok at all. as long as i have a shot gun...oh, wait...
 
2013-02-22 08:03:55 PM

some_beer_drinker: it's not ok at all. as long as i have a shot gun...oh, wait...


We only have hockey sticks in Ontario.
 
2013-02-22 08:06:03 PM
Completely different, subby.
 
2013-02-22 08:06:24 PM
Not only is my phone password protected, but so is the SIM. But that's just me, I can't understand why you wouldn't want to password protect something that holds so much info.
 
2013-02-22 08:06:39 PM
If the ringtone is anything by Bryan Adams, that PC in Ontario.
 
2013-02-22 08:09:08 PM
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2013-02-22 08:10:55 PM

skinink: Not only is my phone password protected, but so is the SIM. But that's just me, I can't understand why you wouldn't want to password protect something that holds so much info.


The only phone I've had without a password of some type didn't support them, and I'd never have bought it if I'd known.

Given that a local police department recently asserted they can go through your phone if they're worried evidence could be deleted I'll be making sure every phone I buy is quickly and easily locked like my current one can be.
 
2013-02-22 08:11:57 PM
Welcome to Obama's America
 
2013-02-22 08:12:08 PM

skinink: Not only is my phone password protected, but so is the SIM. But that's just me, I can't understand why you wouldn't want to password protect something that holds so much info.


Personally, I have nothing of any importance stored on mine except a few website passwords that I really wouldn't care if they got stolen
 
2013-02-22 08:13:25 PM

Mega Steve: Welcome to Obama's America


Canada is Obama's America?
 
2013-02-22 08:13:34 PM

skinink: Not only is my phone password protected, but so is the SIM. But that's just me, I can't understand why you wouldn't want to password protect something that holds so much info.


I don't know why you'd want to put that much info on a small object that you carry everywhere and has a decent chance of being lost.

If anyone gets my phone they'll have my contacts list, which is mostly just names and numbers (no e-mail addresses). They won't get credit card numbers, bank account number or even my password to Fark.
 
2013-02-22 08:14:20 PM

skinink: Not only is my phone password protected, but so is the SIM. But that's just me, I can't understand why you wouldn't want to password protect something that holds so much info.


"LOL The Government isn't interested in me. My life is boring. Only crazy conspiracy theorists worry about privacy"
 
2013-02-22 08:15:23 PM

wumpus: Mega Steve: Welcome to Obama's America

Canada is Obama's America?


Canada is Obama's frosty beer fridge.
 
2013-02-22 08:17:50 PM

Mega Steve: Welcome to Obama's America


Wow! Obama annexed Canada?!? Best. President. EVAR.
 
2013-02-22 08:22:22 PM
apparently no one RTFA and saw it's *when arrested* they can take a look..

so if you were arrested at home, they're allowed to take a look around..

*shrugs*  i don't see the big deal.. don't want your phone searched, don't get arrested.
 
2013-02-22 08:24:55 PM
Since it's Canada, I'm sure they'll be polite about it.
 
2013-02-22 08:28:32 PM
This issue is never going to be settled. Back in the day, police would sometimes cruise the neighborhood with a scanner, eavesdropping on cordless phones and baby monitors. In some areas it was deemed illegal, in others it wasn't. Law enforcement kept right on doing it either way. So did lots of other people, some of them bad guys. There is no substitute for understanding where your privacy is vulnerable and taking steps to protect it. Don't expect law enforcement or politicians to do it for you, or even respect your privacy. They just don't and won't.
 
2013-02-22 08:31:20 PM
If you have stored nude photos of yourself, can they arrest you for sexting an officer when they search the phone?  I just want to know before going to Canada.
 
2013-02-22 08:32:37 PM

uselessgit: Since it's Canada, I'm sure they'll be polite about it.


So we're just gonna look thru your cell phone eh?
 
2013-02-22 08:33:31 PM
www.cbc.ca
 
2013-02-22 08:33:45 PM

Mega Steve: Welcome to Obama's America Fartbongo's Amerika.


/FTF no one.
 
2013-02-22 08:40:14 PM

cats are better: apparently no one RTFA and saw it's *when arrested* they can take a look..

so if you were arrested at home, they're allowed to take a look around..

*shrugs*  i don't see the big deal.. don't want your phone searched, don't get arrested.


It's the whole 'slippery slope' argument, I think.
 
2013-02-22 08:41:12 PM
I live in the United States and I nearly got arrested for offering to pay a cop to rummage through my things, if you know what I mean.  Apparently that was "illegal".
 
2013-02-22 08:42:19 PM

Mega Steve: Welcome to Obama's America


It's a small price to pay for a more secure America.

This is what the founders intended too.  Experimenting with different laws / rules (in Ontario in this case) to make for a more perfect union.

Laboratorys of democracy in action.
 
2013-02-22 08:42:59 PM
Or, if you are going to rob something, don't take pictures and keep text messages about the robbery??
 
2013-02-22 08:44:03 PM

MrHappyRotter: I live in the United States and I nearly got arrested for offering to pay a cop to rummage through my things, if you know what I mean.  Apparently that was "illegal".


Y'know, officer, there may be something hiding at the bottom of my front pocket. Don't be afraid to be thorough. I've been a naughty, naughty boy and I throw myself at your mercy.
 
2013-02-22 08:46:34 PM
It's the same old story again
There is unrest in the forest
Alice, isn't it frightening?
 
2013-02-22 08:46:34 PM

cats are better: don't want your phone searched, don't get arrested.


Because no one has been wrongfully arrested ever.
 
2013-02-22 08:50:58 PM
They look in your wallet when you get arrested too. That's how they get your address and send you Sear's catalogs!
 
2013-02-22 08:56:51 PM

ggecko: Or, if you are going to rob something, don't take pictures and keep text messages about the robbery??


THIS a whole bunch. WTH was he doing keeping the pics on his phone? Then again, what's so suspect about a pic of a gun or cash? or a text about jewelry?
 
2013-02-22 08:57:31 PM

Bob_Laublaw: MrHappyRotter: I live in the United States and I nearly got arrested for offering to pay a cop to rummage through my things, if you know what I mean.  Apparently that was "illegal".

Y'know, officer, there may be something hiding at the bottom of my front pocket. Don't be afraid to be thorough. I've been a naughty, naughty boy and I throw myself at your mercy.

Is that the pocket you keep your pet snake in?
 
2013-02-22 09:00:52 PM

cats are better: apparently no one RTFA and saw it's *when arrested* they can take a look..

so if you were arrested at home, they're allowed to take a look around..

*shrugs*  i don't see the big deal.. don't want your phone searched, don't get arrested.


Exactly, who needs the fourth amendment!
 
2013-02-22 09:01:45 PM

J. Frank Parnell: cats are better: don't want your phone searched, don't get arrested.

Because no one has been wrongfully arrested ever.


if you've been wrongfully arrested, what is there to hide on your phone?
 
2013-02-22 09:03:26 PM

skinink: I can't understand why you wouldn't want to password protect something that holds so much info


Occasional txts from my wife that say I love you. Contacts that include my parents, wife, wife's family and a couple friends (all with nicknames/titles). No pictures.

/You aren't going to get shiat from my phone aside from my prepaid minutes and a small list of phone #s that you won't know, I barely get any use out of it myself.
//No reason to keep a compendium of personally identifiable information and your life inside a portable box.
 
2013-02-22 09:04:08 PM
Because in Onterible you must be afraid or derp right wing politics just won't work.....
 
2013-02-22 09:04:52 PM

flyinglizard: Bob_Laublaw: MrHappyRotter: I live in the United States and I nearly got arrested for offering to pay a cop to rummage through my things, if you know what I mean.  Apparently that was "illegal".

Y'know, officer, there may be something hiding at the bottom of my front pocket. Don't be afraid to be thorough. I've been a naughty, naughty boy and I throw myself at your mercy.
Is that the pocket you keep your pet snake in?


Yes sir and what a magnificent snake it is! Carphophis amoenus, the native worm snake.  A diminutive, brown-skinned snake species with a typically creamy or pinkish underside that spends much of it's time burrowing underground, in rotting wood or through decaying piles of leaf litter.
 
2013-02-22 09:07:53 PM
Good thing too; what if someone were to threaten the global strategic maple sryup reserve?
 
2013-02-22 09:08:02 PM

cats are better: J. Frank Parnell: cats are better: don't want your phone searched, don't get arrested.

Because no one has been wrongfully arrested ever.

if you've been wrongfully arrested, what is there to hide on your phone?


Evidence of police misconduct.
 
2013-02-22 09:17:43 PM

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2013-02-22 09:18:47 PM

ProfessorOhki: cats are better: J. Frank Parnell: cats are better: don't want your phone searched, don't get arrested.

Because no one has been wrongfully arrested ever.

if you've been wrongfully arrested, what is there to hide on your phone?

Evidence of police misconduct.


Not to mention not everything which is damaging or embarrassing to someone is illegal. There are more reasons to want privacy then just illegal activity.
 
2013-02-22 09:20:06 PM

cats are better: J. Frank Parnell: cats are better: don't want your phone searched, don't get arrested.

Because no one has been wrongfully arrested ever.

if you've been wrongfully arrested, what is there to hide on your phone?


Stuff you don't want cops looking at but you didn't get arrested for.

Pics of you banging subby's mom, for example.
 
2013-02-22 09:21:08 PM
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cats are better: J. Frank Parnell: cats are better: don't want your phone searched, don't get arrested.

Because no one has been wrongfully arrested ever.

if you've been wrongfully arrested, what is there to hide on your phone?


"I have some great video of the cops beating you after you agreed to get on the ground."
"Let me have a look at that....citizen."
*Whoopsy Daisy!*
"I had some great video of the cops beating you after you agreed to get on the ground."


If you don't understand why this is important I'm not sure we'll be able to explain it to you. It's immensely obvious how easily this can be abused.
 
2013-02-22 09:29:12 PM

cats are better: J. Frank Parnell: cats are better: don't want your phone searched, don't get arrested.

Because no one has been wrongfully arrested ever.

if you've been wrongfully arrested, what is there to hide on your phone?


Dick pics. Lots and lots of dick pics.

Not of other guys of course. That would just be creepy.
 
2013-02-22 09:41:56 PM
You just have to get into their heads.

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Have you seen a robot around?
 
2013-02-22 09:50:06 PM
Well, they would have to get past the dog first, if they want to look around the house or the yard. In general, the cops here are not quick to shoot things, so I suspect the dog would win until the warrant actually arrived.

As for my phone - this was a stupid ruling. My phone IS a computer. It has 2 cores and runs a linux variant. What's not micro micro computer about that?

/Note to self, pattern protect the phone!
 
2013-02-22 09:56:06 PM
Had cops go through my house while i was gone on Monday. My fault tho. Forgot to lock my door when i took my daughter to schoolbut remembered to set the alarm.
A bird or strong wind hit my big front window and set off tue alarm.
Cops were got to my home, went through and checked all the rooms, and went checked the fenced back yard in the ten minutes it took to take my daughter to school.
I pulled in as they were about to leave.

Weird knowing cops walked through my home, but i guess atleast theure fast and thurough.
 
2013-02-22 09:57:11 PM
Wow so many typos. Sorry. Gotta learn to proof read before posting
 
2013-02-22 09:57:56 PM
Maybe i should stop drinking before posting too
 
2013-02-22 09:58:49 PM

Jae0o0: Maybe i should stop drinking before posting too


And if you refrain from masturbating for a few moments, you can also type with two hands.
 
2013-02-22 10:02:13 PM

skinink: Not only is my phone password protected, but so is the SIM. But that's just me, I can't understand why you wouldn't want to password protect something that holds so much info.


I work for a private defense contractor. I am required to have a complex passcode that changes every 30 days, auto-lock in 1 minute, and the entire device is encrypted. Good luck Mr. Mountie, but don't mess with it too much because its going to auto-wipe. Oh, and I am required to inform if the phone is lost or just not in my possession with someone possibly trying to access it. Yes, they will remote wipe it. Heck, if I don't log into it every so often and verify it is in my possession it will wipe itself.
 
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