ourbigdumbmouth: Welcome to the New America!!! Where everyone has a mental disorder therefor no one has constitutional rights!!!Hshahshahaha!!!!'n
Mentalpatient87: Remember when Bindi Irwin was rebounding so quick after Steve got dead and everybody was weirded out by that?Whatever happened to her?
BigJake: I would expect most non-mentally ill people to grieve for a lot longer than that for certain events. A parent losing a child, for instance. A pet, maybe not so much.
RedVentrue: People still have emotions?Really??There's a pill for that.
UseUrHeadFred: You know that pain and guilt can't be taken away with a wave of a magic wand. They're the things we carry with us, the things that make us who we are.If we lose them, we lose ourselves.I don't want my pain taken away! I need my pain!
SuperTramp: "We are essentially labelling grief a disorder. Now it becomes a target for drug development."/DUH
cgraves67: Wow. The current standard is 2 months. Crap. I've never lost a spouse, but I think I would grieve for a lot longer than 2 months.I think if you grieve for less than 2 weeks you might have a mental disorder.
rustypouch: BigJake: I would expect most non-mentally ill people to grieve for a lot longer than that for certain events. A parent losing a child, for instance. A pet, maybe not so much.Well, look at how easy it is to replace them.New pets are practically given away, and the ones they can't give away are killed.There's just a bit more in raising a kid.
SN1987a goes boom: ourbigdumbmouth: Welcome to the New America!!! Where everyone has a mental disorder therefor no one has constitutional rights!!!Hshahshahaha!!!!'nnews.com.auAustralia, the New America!
In a keynote address at an Australian Psychological Society conference in Melbourne on Saturday, Prof Larson will express his anger about the American Psychiatric Association's new diagnostic manual, DSM 5, which is used in many countries including Australia and New Zealand.
MaudlinMutantMollusk: So... Republicans?
if_i_really_have_to: Oh this bullshiat again. Is this the fourth or fifth article that Fark has greenlighted on the same rubbish? "LOL I don't know anything about how mental illness is diagnosed but this sounds dumb so I'm just going to believe it LOL WTF LOL." I'm not sure what Prof Larson (not a medical doctor, by the way) has against it, and as a professor in psychology he should know better.Here is the criteria (one of many) they seem to be talking about changing:"The symptoms are not better accounted for by Bereavement, i.e., after the loss of a loved one, the symptoms persist for longer than 2 months or are characterized by marked functional impairment, morbid preoccupation with worthlessness, suicidal ideation, psychotic symptoms, or psychomotor retardation."This is a "ruling out" criteria. Before you even get to this criteria (E) you have to have passed through criteria A-D. The first criteria (A) is to have five or more of these for more than two weeks:- depressed mood most of the day, nearly every day, as indicated by either subjective report (e.g., feels sad or empty) or observation made by others (e.g., appears tearful). Note: In children and adolescents, can be irritable mood.- markedly diminished interest or pleasure in all, or almost all, activities most of the day, nearly every day (as indicated by either subjective account or observation made by others)- significant weight loss when not dieting or weight gain (e.g., a change of more than 5% of body weight in a month), or decrease or increase in appetite nearly every day.- Insomnia or Hypersomnia nearly every day- psychomotor agitation or retardation nearly every day (observable by others, not merely subjective feelings of restlessness or being slowed down)- fatigue or loss of energy nearly every day- feelings of worthlessness or excessive or inappropriate guilt (which may be delusional) nearly every day (not merely self-reproach or guilt about being sick)- diminished ability to think or concentrate, ...
sno man: lose a baby and get back to me with your list in two weeks, big guy.
cgraves67: Wow. The current standard is 2 months. Crap. I've never lost a spouse, but I think I would grieve for a lot longer than 2 months.
Skail: sno man: lose a baby and get back to me with your list in two weeks, big guy.Or a spouse...
Summoner101: Skail: sno man: lose a baby and get back to me with your list in two weeks, big guy.Or a spouse...Or a parent or a best friend or a mentor.A loss of some that's close to you or you highly regard, especially when it's unexpected or sudden, is going to make an impact. Putting a time limit on someone's grief or feeling like there's something wrong with that person for grieving is only going to make it harder for them to actually work through it, fully cope with it, and eventually, hopefully move on. It's not an on/off switch, it's a day to day battle towards peace. Those around someone grieving thinking otherwise only makes the person trying their best to cope work that much harder because now they're grieving and have people forcing them to meet expectations they may not yet be able to fully handle.And still, at the end of the day, some losses you never really recover from.
Scruffinator: You guys are good at making me sad right before I go to bed. Aren't we supposed to just drink so we can't remember these things?
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