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(Huffington Post)   Good: House GOP to vote on Violence Against Women Act next week. Facepalm: They stripped out coverage for lesbians and Native Americans - AGAIN   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 60
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2013-02-22 03:42:20 PM
21 votes:

cman: Politics indeed

/BTW, thinking of switching to techno-socialism as my political viewpoints. Any thoughts?


Cman: "You know what would really solve this problem?  A metric ton of UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ <the system, is down> UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ
Anyone else: "WTF, why would you do that?  you want more state control over..."
Cman: "I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my WUBS!
Anyone else: Wubs?  What in the hell are those?
Cman:"They're from my bass cannon!  Haven't you heard of...oh, never mind.  Crank the congressional bass to 11!!"

*DJ cuts in* and that was Vinyl Scratch's latest hit, 'All my Feels - the Democratic Underground Mix'.  Up next is the latest mash-up from DJ Skinnyhead, 'Counting to Potato'.
2013-02-22 01:27:38 PM
12 votes:

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Just like in 2012, the GOP is writing the DNC's ads for them.

Guess they didn't need any female votes in 2014/16


The GOP "voter ID" platform for the next election: women need 3 forms of photo ID (one topless), and either a notarized permission slip from their husband or a doctor's note certifying an intact hymen.
2013-02-22 02:43:28 PM
8 votes:

Diogenes: It should only cover legitimate violence.


A woman's body has a way of shutting down a non-legitimate beating.
2013-02-22 02:45:51 PM
5 votes:
They're stripping lesbians of coverage?  I've seen something like that on the internet somewhere....
2013-02-22 02:16:15 PM
5 votes:
It should only cover legitimate violence.
2013-02-22 10:39:00 PM
4 votes:
What I want to know is, should I wait to pick up my ObamaPhone(TM)  and schedule an experimental Transgender Surgery using my ObamaCare trangender surgery voucher(TM) in order to enter into a dangerously violent lesbian relationship with a Native American until the next Congressional session, or should go ahead?
2013-02-22 06:12:53 PM
4 votes:

Jackson Herring: GF named my left testicle thundercles: [i1172.photobucket.com image 328x440]
http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm
http://deanesmay.com/2012/03/15/uncomfortable-truths-about-the-viole nc e-against-women-act/
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/03/whats-wrong-with -t he-violence-against-women-act/254678/
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/02/19/vawa-is-just-bad-policy-period/

Stop lying. The VAWA covers domestic violence against me.


Jackson Herring: Men. Against men.



I'm going with the original wording, because it's more fun that way. The law has a special "Jackson Herring" clause, and I'm okay with that.
2013-02-22 06:03:49 PM
4 votes:

Jackson Herring: neongoats: Meh, I think it would have better served everyone by being named something something domestic violence act and protect all types, LGBT or straight men and women from domestic violence.

IT DOES farkING PROTECT ALL TYPES


Even comic sans?
2013-02-22 04:34:05 PM
4 votes:

KarmicDisaster: Why Native Americans? I can see their hate for lesbians because Jesus totally forgot to specifically mention that his teachings applied to them when he said that they applied to everyone, but what's the deal with the Indians?


They're the one minority they can't use the "Go back to [your ancestors' country]!" with?
2013-02-22 01:22:19 PM
4 votes:
They need to get called out on the carpet-munchers over this!!
2013-02-23 12:13:50 AM
3 votes:

Grand_Moff_Joseph: cman: Politics indeed

/BTW, thinking of switching to techno-socialism as my political viewpoints. Any thoughts?

Cman: "You know what would really solve this problem?  A metric ton of UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ <the system, is down> UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ
Anyone else: "WTF, why would you do that?  you want more state control over..."
Cman: "I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my WUBS!
Anyone else: Wubs?  What in the hell are those?
Cman:"They're from my bass cannon!  Haven't you heard of...oh, never mind.  Crank the congressional bass to 11!!"

*DJ cuts in* and that was Vinyl Scratch's latest hit, 'All my Feels - the Democratic Underground Mix'.  Up next is the latest mash-up from DJ Skinnyhead, 'Counting to Potato'.


2.bp.blogspot.com
2013-02-22 11:07:48 PM
3 votes:

Cpl.D: wademh: What I want to know is, should I wait to pick up my ObamaPhone(TM)  and schedule an experimental Transgender Surgery using my ObamaCare trangender surgery voucher(TM) in order to enter into a dangerously violent lesbian relationship with a Native American until the next Congressional session, or should go ahead?

You DO know that the "Obamaphones" program actually started before he took office.  Right?


My sincerest of apologies.  I was far too subtle for you to detect the thin veil of sarcasm. It's all my fault.
2013-02-22 05:56:12 PM
3 votes:
Men. Against men.
2013-02-22 04:19:26 PM
3 votes:

whither_apophis: Jackson Herring: give me doughnuts: women

the VAWA covers both genders

reality exists

Am I the only one that sees VAWA and somehow thinks "woo-woo" ala "High Anxiety?"

/"just for the sake of argument, cocky-doody"
//farkin' gop...


Every time I see VAWA, I think coffee and hoagies.
2013-02-22 10:52:19 PM
2 votes:

DrPainMD: Grand_Moff_Joseph: These sick farks NEVER LEARN, do they?

What's there to learn? Assault and battery is already a crime. This is just political grandstanding and a waste of taxpayers' money.


Then again, the bill is not about making things crimes so your point is about as useful as tits on a bull. It is about targeted crime prevention and victim assistance. So removing language that prevents groups from discriminating against some victims of assault because of sexual orientation would seem to be in antagonistic to the sentiments you project. After all, the point is to prevent people from treating some types of victims of assault as a separate class that can be discriminated against. You knew that, certainly, or else why would you have bothered to voice your opinion? But then your comment folds in on itself in a train-wreck of hypocrisy so who could really know what you mean.
2013-02-22 10:43:25 PM
2 votes:

wademh: What I want to know is, should I wait to pick up my ObamaPhone(TM)  and schedule an experimental Transgender Surgery using my ObamaCare trangender surgery voucher(TM) in order to enter into a dangerously violent lesbian relationship with a Native American until the next Congressional session, or should go ahead?


I was wondering the same thing and hoping the GOP would do something to guide me.
2013-02-22 06:03:41 PM
2 votes:
Holy shiat you posted a PJ Media link in earnest ahh hahaha. Byeeeeeee.
2013-02-22 05:37:31 PM
2 votes:

Grand_Moff_Joseph: cman: Politics indeed

/BTW, thinking of switching to techno-socialism as my political viewpoints. Any thoughts?

Cman: "You know what would really solve this problem?  A metric ton of UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ <the system, is down> UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ
Anyone else: "WTF, why would you do that?  you want more state control over..."
Cman: "I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my WUBS!
Anyone else: Wubs?  What in the hell are those?
Cman:"They're from my bass cannon!  Haven't you heard of...oh, never mind.  Crank the congressional bass to 11!!"

*DJ cuts in* and that was Vinyl Scratch's latest hit, 'All my Feels - the Democratic Underground Mix'.  Up next is the latest mash-up from DJ Skinnyhead, 'Counting to Potato'.


t2.gstatic.com
2013-02-22 04:51:50 PM
2 votes:

KiltedBastich: Let me see if I understand what you mean, socialism facilitated by technology in order to avoid or curtail the kind of excesses, intrusions and abuses that traditional bureaucratic socialism fosters? Please elaborate if I am in error.


From each according to his bleeps. To each according to his bloops.
2013-02-22 04:37:22 PM
2 votes:
Republicans are going to steamroll Alabama in 2016.   You libs are going to be so pissed.
2013-02-22 02:52:42 PM
2 votes:

propasaurus: Diogenes: It should only cover legitimate violence.

A woman's body has a way of shutting down a non-legitimate beating.


Those bruises and broken bones are a gift from god.
2013-02-22 01:27:02 PM
2 votes:
Keep it up, Republicans.  Sure, it would be much better for America if you allowed your mentally challenged party to die with feeble little whimper, but, if you insist on going out in a spectacular fireball, I don't think anyone's going to stop you.
2013-02-23 04:00:01 PM
1 votes:

BMulligan: nmemkha: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: gadian: This bill will give Tribal courts the ability to have criminal jurisdiction over violations of tribal laws committed by Non-tribal members for crimes committed on tribal land.  This is a good thing.  This is how it should be.

How it should be is: any person accused of a crime should have the opportunity to mount a defense before an impartial jury. Something which is by definition not available to an outsider in a racially-exclusive enclave.

I bet blacks in the 60s agreed with you.

He finds the idea of a white man being tried before an all-Indian jury horrifying, but trying an Indian before an all-white jury is just huonky dory.


I feel bad for that, but I couldn't resist.
2013-02-23 08:44:15 AM
1 votes:

GF named my left testicle thundercles: [i1172.photobucket.com image 328x440]
http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm
http://deanesmay.com/2012/03/15/uncomfortable-truths-about-the-viole nc e-against-women-act/
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/03/whats-wrong-with -t he-violence-against-women-act/254678/
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/02/19/vawa-is-just-bad-policy-period/


So what the graphs say is that some crazy women are dating sane men that don't hit them back? WHAT?!

Seriously. That's what the graph says. Some women hit their men, and their men don't hit back. In the instances where men hit their women, more of those women hit back then don't. Which is good. If your SO comes at you, defend yourself and GTFO.
2013-02-23 04:50:34 AM
1 votes:

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Ceding authority over a non-native criminal defendant to a tribal court seems like a more systematic version of (for instance) excluding members of the defendant's race from a jury pool, and seems a similarly bad idea for similar reasons.


Also, in general tribal court can be more or less any process that the tribal government comes up with, whether it's modeled on US courts, on traditional dispute resolution, or on Sheriff Joe's Gung-Ho Guide to Witch Conviction. This isn't just about which locality's name is on the courthouse, it's about the kind of judicial process the defendant will face.

Sure, the instinct is to say "fark 'em, they're rapists," but not everyone accused is guilty and they should have a genuine chance to properly defend themselves before an impartial jury.

Should federal law enforcement and courts be required to do their job and take responsibility with regard to crimes on Native American land? Of course. Tossing it to tribal courts is the opposite of that.


If you commit a crime in Native American territory against a Native American you should expect to face justice within tribal court.
What happens in Indian Casinos, stays in Indian Casinos.
2013-02-23 03:45:57 AM
1 votes:

bencoon: LectertheChef:

Even if it didn't cover men, consider the differing situations. What's going to hurt more, being hit by someone half your size, or twice your size?

As a big dude who has been socked in the arm by somebody half my size, you'd be surprised. Technique makes up for a lot when you're lacking size.

/ I legitimately had it coming, though.
// It hurt. ;.;


It's almost cute that you in any way associate being socked in the arm with domestic violence. Please never volunteer at a Hospital Emergency Room.  I will live a happier life reflecting upon your innocence.
2013-02-23 12:28:52 AM
1 votes:

fusillade762: PsiChick: Jeff_Reisberg: (favorite: "Women are interchangeable commodities")

I should probably change that to 'disgusting shiatstain', but that quote sums it up real damn well.

I just have him labeled as "New troll" since he's only been here for less than a month. Still trying to figure out whose alt he is.


I can't tell. He pisses me off, I know that, and TFA pisses me off anyway.

On the other hand, he might be great therapy. He's like a living caricature of a sexist to snap at. Might be fun.
2013-02-23 12:19:00 AM
1 votes:

PsiChick: Jeff_Reisberg: (favorite: "Women are interchangeable commodities")

I should probably change that to 'disgusting shiatstain', but that quote sums it up real damn well.


I just have him labeled as "New troll" since he's only been here for less than a month. Still trying to figure out whose alt he is.
2013-02-22 10:35:37 PM
1 votes:

utahraptor2: You'd be surprised to learn what's in that despicable bill.


Huh, now that's a blast from the past. It's been so long since the last time I saw this alt that I'd cleared it off my ignore list.
2013-02-22 10:35:12 PM
1 votes:

Jeff_Reisberg: The "Violence against women act" is a horrible idea on the face of it.

including.... "protected groups" would just make it worse.


Jeff_Reisberg: (favorite: "Women are interchangeable commodities")

I should probably change that to 'disgusting shiatstain', but that quote sums it up real damn well.
2013-02-22 09:45:23 PM
1 votes:

Jeff_Reisberg: The "Violence against women act" is a horrible idea on the face of it.

including.... "protected groups" would just make it worse.


When you make inflammatory statements without so much as a speck of supporting argument, it hardly seems trolly at all.
2013-02-22 09:19:17 PM
1 votes:

Fluorescent Testicle: Doktor_Zhivago: So can I rape you?  Since it's apparently not such a big deal...

Reading comprehension fail. He means that rape and/or violence against a tribal member by a non-tribal member is not a big deal according to the Federal police. Which is depressing but completely true.


Damnit.  I get drunk and start posting in politics and then I end up look like a retard.....

4.bp.blogspot.com
"I'm here to talk about rape"
2013-02-22 08:59:56 PM
1 votes:
Oh, another VAWA thread...I wonder if there's a bunch of uninformed whiners babbling about mens' rights.

*scans thread*

...yup

Carry on, dipshiats
2013-02-22 08:56:14 PM
1 votes:

HAMMERTOE: Can somebody enlighten me on this?


Sure.  The republicans are doing exactly what you'd expect a group that has been bought out by evangelical extremists who value profit over scruples.
2013-02-22 08:51:14 PM
1 votes:
Ftfa: Specifically, the bill removes "sexual orientation" and "gender identity" from the list of underserved populations who face barriers to accessing victim services, thereby disqualifying LGBT victims from a related grant program.

I'm not sure what to think about this. On the surface, it sounds sexist, but how can it be sexist to deny special funding for female victims of domestic violence... by other females? Where, in a heterosexual setting, the man is generally always assumed to be in the wrong, things aren't so simple in these cases. In fact, both women can claim to be "victims". Can somebody enlighten me on this?
2013-02-22 08:12:05 PM
1 votes:

fusillade762: BunkoSquad: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Just like in 2012, the GOP is writing the DNC's ads for them.

Guess they didn't need any female votes in 2014/16

The GOP "voter ID" platform for the next election: women need 3 forms of photo ID (one topless), and either a notarized permission slip from their husband or a doctor's note certifying an intact hymen.

How are they going to have an intact hymen after all the trans-vaginal ultrasounds the GOP will require for voting?


Let me mansplain this to you, little missie.  Only whores try to vote.  If they cared about their hymens they would stay home working on their needlepoint like good girls.  Instead, they end up legs spread on the teacher's desk the first time they need a passing grade (trust me on this, I've seen documentaries on the subject).  So, they can hardly complain when they end up with an ultrasound probe confirming their eligibility to vote, and then reconfirming it after they vote.  And then again, six months later.
2013-02-22 07:48:36 PM
1 votes:
Boo, cman missed his political rave party!  XD
2013-02-22 07:45:38 PM
1 votes:

Jetskimoo: Grand_Moff_Joseph: cman: Politics indeed

/BTW, thinking of switching to techno-socialism as my political viewpoints. Any thoughts?

Cman: "You know what would really solve this problem?  A metric ton of UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ <the system, is down> UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ
Anyone else: "WTF, why would you do that?  you want more state control over..."
Cman: "I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my WUBS!
Anyone else: Wubs?  What in the hell are those?
Cman:"They're from my bass cannon!  Haven't you heard of...oh, never mind.  Crank the congressional bass to 11!!"

*DJ cuts in* and that was Vinyl Scratch's latest hit, 'All my Feels - the Democratic Underground Mix'.  Up next is the latest mash-up from DJ Skinnyhead, 'Counting to Potato'.

[t2.gstatic.com image 259x194]


Me:  Heh, that's cool, someone got the MLP refere.....Wait a minute!!!!

BAH GAWD KING, MY WIFE'S ON FARK!   *runs*
2013-02-22 07:21:24 PM
1 votes:

demaL-demaL-yeH: //This why the tribal courts must have jurisdiction for this kind of case.


No one is taking jurisdiction away from tribal courts.  You clearly have no idea what the new section says or does.  We will now spend dozens of posts going back and forth where you say what you totally believe to be true and I quote actual sections from the actual document demonstrating your imagination and reality don't match up.  In the end I'll make a few comments on your relative intelligence level, given your staunch opposition to facts, reality and evidence.  Those comments will likely get me a temporary vacation from Fark.com.

So how bout we just skip to the part where I call you an idiot because we both know nothing I post will ever convince you to actually read the document and familiarize yourself with reality.  You're far too dug in with your imagination.

Idiot.
2013-02-22 06:45:49 PM
1 votes:

LectertheChef: BMulligan: Grand_Moff_Joseph: The House bill retains the ability of tribes to prosecute non-member criminals in a tribal court.

When you say "non-member," do you mean non-Indian or do you mean Indians who are not members of the tribe served by the tribal court? Tribal courts already lack jurisdiction over non-Indian defendants - if the victim is also non-Indian then state courts have jurisdiction; if the victim is Indian, then jurisdiction lies in federal court pursuant to the General Crimes Act.

That's something that's never made any sense to me. You commit the crime on a reservation, the tribal courts should get to prosecute, unless it's something that goes way bigger, in which case it goes up to a federal district court. If an American is arrested for a crime in Mexico, they don't get to demand their trial be in the U.S. so the same rule should apply to reservations.


That makes perfect sense, which is why it will never fly in any legislature in this country.
2013-02-22 06:08:26 PM
1 votes:
What kind of maniac hates Native American lesbians?
2013-02-22 05:58:12 PM
1 votes:

vicioushobbit: I hope a meteorite strikes the next person to post "isn't violence against women already protected?" People who can't read more than a title shouldn't be allowed to comment on the bill.


I hope the next person who says BUT WHAT ABOUT MEN is punched in the groin by Mike Tyson.
2013-02-22 05:55:19 PM
1 votes:
I think the new Not Quite So Much Violence Against Women, Please Act should be passed in its partiality.
2013-02-22 05:42:24 PM
1 votes:

I alone am best: Submitting to native American courts out.


Mind if I ask why?
2013-02-22 05:41:56 PM
1 votes:
Look, children! This is what human pieces of shiat look like!
2013-02-22 05:36:37 PM
1 votes:
To their defense, some Lesbians chose to be the "man" in the relationship, so why are we covering people who chose to not act like women.

wow...I feel kinda sick after typing that. Is this what being a True ConservativeTM feels like everyday?
2013-02-22 05:16:54 PM
1 votes:

GF named my left testicle thundercles: http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm
http://deanesmay.com/2012/03/15/uncomfortable-truths-about-the-viole nc e-against-women-act/
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/03/whats-wrong-with -t he-violence-against-women-act/254678/
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/02/19/vawa-is-just-bad-policy-period/


1) The VAWA protects everyone, not just women.
2) LGBT and Native Americans come in all genders.
3) You clearly have no clue how conditional probability works if you think that graphic is remotely relevant.
2013-02-22 05:12:39 PM
1 votes:
2013-02-22 04:51:13 PM
1 votes:
a bloo blah bloo misandry
2013-02-22 04:42:13 PM
1 votes:

Grand_Moff_Joseph: cman: Politics indeed

/BTW, thinking of switching to techno-socialism as my political viewpoints. Any thoughts?

Cman: "You know what would really solve this problem?  A metric ton of UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ <the system, is down> UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ
Anyone else: "WTF, why would you do that?  you want more state control over..."
Cman: "I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my WUBS!
Anyone else: Wubs?  What in the hell are those?
Cman:"They're from my bass cannon!  Haven't you heard of...oh, never mind.  Crank the congressional bass to 11!!"

*DJ cuts in* and that was Vinyl Scratch's latest hit, 'All my Feels - the Democratic Underground Mix'.  Up next is the latest mash-up from DJ Skinnyhead, 'Counting to Potato'.


It might be the fever talking but yer hilarious.
2013-02-22 04:36:59 PM
1 votes:
Every time I see VAWA I think "great, another three dozen barely sentient shiat wizards are going to complain about how it doesn't protect men in their fevered imaginations"
2013-02-22 04:36:47 PM
1 votes:
I better get in some good old fashion woman beating before this thing passes.
2013-02-22 04:02:02 PM
1 votes:
Hmm, let's see.
The quote from Cantor's rep is that he is working to provide protections for all women.
However, the bill introduced strips access to many of the best programs away from LBGT folks.

Thus apparently the thinking is that is LBGT is not a woman. So does that make them men?
I suspect the truth is even much worse.
2013-02-22 03:44:04 PM
1 votes:

Vodka Zombie: Keep it up, Republicans.  Sure, it would be much better for America if you allowed your mentally challenged party to die with feeble little whimper, but, if you insist on going out in a spectacular fireball, I don't think anyone's going to stop you.


"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake"
2013-02-22 03:43:21 PM
1 votes:

cman: Politics indeed

/BTW, thinking of switching to techno-socialism as my political viewpoints. Any thoughts?


What are the hours like?
2013-02-22 03:32:29 PM
1 votes:

propasaurus: cman: Politics indeed

/BTW, thinking of switching to techno-socialism as my political viewpoints. Any thoughts?

Maybe you should just stick to the Geek or Entertainment tabs.


I was actually being serious.
2013-02-22 03:31:41 PM
1 votes:

cman: Politics indeed

/BTW, thinking of switching to techno-socialism as my political viewpoints. Any thoughts?


Maybe you should just stick to the Geek or Entertainment tabs.
2013-02-22 03:09:06 PM
1 votes:
As a male, I'm proud to share my second-class status with the LGBT community.
2013-02-22 02:56:46 PM
1 votes:
Looks as if they left stuff in for Native American women, subs.

Of course, they could be included under the rest of the bill if you wanted to strip the last bits of sovereingty away from the Native Americans. After all, what's one more treaty broken.
2013-02-22 01:29:06 PM
1 votes:
All dicks, all the time.
 
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