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(Huffington Post)   Good: House GOP to vote on Violence Against Women Act next week. Facepalm: They stripped out coverage for lesbians and Native Americans - AGAIN   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 257
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2013-02-22 01:17:44 PM  
These sick farks NEVER LEARN, do they?
 
2013-02-22 01:20:57 PM  
Or, in short, House Republicans vote against bipartisan Violence Against Women Act again.
 
2013-02-22 01:22:19 PM  
They need to get called out on the carpet-munchers over this!!
 
2013-02-22 01:22:42 PM  
At this point, can't Pelosi try to get a discharge petition on the Senate passed bill?
 
2013-02-22 01:23:23 PM  
"Neither House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) nor House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) have released statements about Friday's bill being introduced. "

Spinelees little farktards.
 
2013-02-22 01:24:10 PM  
Just like in 2012, the GOP is writing the DNC's ads for them.

Guess they didn't need any female votes in 2014/16
 
2013-02-22 01:27:02 PM  
Keep it up, Republicans.  Sure, it would be much better for America if you allowed your mentally challenged party to die with feeble little whimper, but, if you insist on going out in a spectacular fireball, I don't think anyone's going to stop you.
 
2013-02-22 01:27:38 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Just like in 2012, the GOP is writing the DNC's ads for them.

Guess they didn't need any female votes in 2014/16


The GOP "voter ID" platform for the next election: women need 3 forms of photo ID (one topless), and either a notarized permission slip from their husband or a doctor's note certifying an intact hymen.
 
2013-02-22 01:28:02 PM  
Those who cannot learn from history....
 
2013-02-22 01:29:06 PM  
All dicks, all the time.
 
2013-02-22 01:30:12 PM  
Actually they stripped out coverage for same-sex couples of both genders.
 
2013-02-22 02:16:15 PM  
It should only cover legitimate violence.
 
2013-02-22 02:43:28 PM  

Diogenes: It should only cover legitimate violence.


A woman's body has a way of shutting down a non-legitimate beating.
 
2013-02-22 02:45:51 PM  
They're stripping lesbians of coverage?  I've seen something like that on the internet somewhere....
 
2013-02-22 02:52:42 PM  

propasaurus: Diogenes: It should only cover legitimate violence.

A woman's body has a way of shutting down a non-legitimate beating.


Those bruises and broken bones are a gift from god.
 
2013-02-22 02:56:46 PM  
Looks as if they left stuff in for Native American women, subs.

Of course, they could be included under the rest of the bill if you wanted to strip the last bits of sovereingty away from the Native Americans. After all, what's one more treaty broken.
 
2013-02-22 03:06:38 PM  

FloydA: propasaurus: Diogenes: It should only cover legitimate violence.

A woman's body has a way of shutting down a non-legitimate beating.

Those bruises and broken bones are a gift from god.


And each of those stitches is like saying a Hail Mary.
 
2013-02-22 03:07:01 PM  

give me doughnuts: Looks as if they left stuff in for Native American women, subs.

Of course, they could be included under the rest of the bill if you wanted to strip the last bits of sovereingty away from the Native Americans. After all, what's one more treaty broken.


Indirectly, it does.

The House bill retains the ability of tribes to prosecute non-member criminals in a tribal court.  However, they inserted additional language that allows the accused to have the trial moved to a non-reservation court if they feel that their "rights" are being violated.
Given the option to move a trial to a different court, where the tribal prosecution has little/no jurisdiction, and limited ability to present their case, what do you think the accused will do every single time?
 
2013-02-22 03:09:06 PM  
As a male, I'm proud to share my second-class status with the LGBT community.
 
2013-02-22 03:10:32 PM  
I'm reminded of alywa's post from another thread.  In literally every situation where there is a clear choice as to right or wrong, the GOP deliberately chooses the wrong side.
 
2013-02-22 03:11:24 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: As a male, I'm proud to share my second-class status with the LGBT community.


lolwut?
 
2013-02-22 03:17:29 PM  

give me doughnuts: women


the VAWA covers both genders

reality exists
 
2013-02-22 03:25:42 PM  
Politics indeed

/BTW, thinking of switching to techno-socialism as my political viewpoints. Any thoughts?
 
2013-02-22 03:29:24 PM  
Why Native Americans? I can see their hate for lesbians because Jesus totally forgot to specifically mention that his teachings applied to them when he said that they applied to everyone, but what's the deal with the Indians?
 
2013-02-22 03:31:41 PM  

cman: Politics indeed

/BTW, thinking of switching to techno-socialism as my political viewpoints. Any thoughts?


Maybe you should just stick to the Geek or Entertainment tabs.
 
2013-02-22 03:32:29 PM  

propasaurus: cman: Politics indeed

/BTW, thinking of switching to techno-socialism as my political viewpoints. Any thoughts?

Maybe you should just stick to the Geek or Entertainment tabs.


I was actually being serious.
 
2013-02-22 03:38:42 PM  

Jackson Herring: give me doughnuts: women

the VAWA covers both genders

reality exists


Am I the only one that sees VAWA and somehow thinks "woo-woo" ala "High Anxiety?"

/"just for the sake of argument, cocky-doody"
//farkin' gop...
 
2013-02-22 03:42:20 PM  

cman: Politics indeed

/BTW, thinking of switching to techno-socialism as my political viewpoints. Any thoughts?


Cman: "You know what would really solve this problem?  A metric ton of UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ <the system, is down> UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ
Anyone else: "WTF, why would you do that?  you want more state control over..."
Cman: "I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my WUBS!
Anyone else: Wubs?  What in the hell are those?
Cman:"They're from my bass cannon!  Haven't you heard of...oh, never mind.  Crank the congressional bass to 11!!"

*DJ cuts in* and that was Vinyl Scratch's latest hit, 'All my Feels - the Democratic Underground Mix'.  Up next is the latest mash-up from DJ Skinnyhead, 'Counting to Potato'.
 
2013-02-22 03:43:21 PM  

cman: Politics indeed

/BTW, thinking of switching to techno-socialism as my political viewpoints. Any thoughts?


What are the hours like?
 
2013-02-22 03:44:04 PM  

Vodka Zombie: Keep it up, Republicans.  Sure, it would be much better for America if you allowed your mentally challenged party to die with feeble little whimper, but, if you insist on going out in a spectacular fireball, I don't think anyone's going to stop you.


"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake"
 
2013-02-22 04:02:02 PM  
Hmm, let's see.
The quote from Cantor's rep is that he is working to provide protections for all women.
However, the bill introduced strips access to many of the best programs away from LBGT folks.

Thus apparently the thinking is that is LBGT is not a woman. So does that make them men?
I suspect the truth is even much worse.
 
2013-02-22 04:19:26 PM  

whither_apophis: Jackson Herring: give me doughnuts: women

the VAWA covers both genders

reality exists

Am I the only one that sees VAWA and somehow thinks "woo-woo" ala "High Anxiety?"

/"just for the sake of argument, cocky-doody"
//farkin' gop...


Every time I see VAWA, I think coffee and hoagies.
 
2013-02-22 04:34:05 PM  

KarmicDisaster: Why Native Americans? I can see their hate for lesbians because Jesus totally forgot to specifically mention that his teachings applied to them when he said that they applied to everyone, but what's the deal with the Indians?


They're the one minority they can't use the "Go back to [your ancestors' country]!" with?
 
2013-02-22 04:36:47 PM  
I better get in some good old fashion woman beating before this thing passes.
 
2013-02-22 04:36:59 PM  
Every time I see VAWA I think "great, another three dozen barely sentient shiat wizards are going to complain about how it doesn't protect men in their fevered imaginations"
 
2013-02-22 04:37:22 PM  
Republicans are going to steamroll Alabama in 2016.   You libs are going to be so pissed.
 
2013-02-22 04:39:09 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Those who cannot learn from history....


republican History believes that Thomas Jefferson was a commie, Lincoln was anti states rights, and Ted Nugent is the Second Coming.
 
2013-02-22 04:39:56 PM  

Elandriel: I'm reminded of alywa's post from another thread.  In literally every situation where there is a clear choice as to right or wrong, the GOP deliberately chooses the wrong side.


The gop would rather rule in Hell than serve in heaven.
 
2013-02-22 04:42:13 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: cman: Politics indeed

/BTW, thinking of switching to techno-socialism as my political viewpoints. Any thoughts?

Cman: "You know what would really solve this problem?  A metric ton of UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ <the system, is down> UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ
Anyone else: "WTF, why would you do that?  you want more state control over..."
Cman: "I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my WUBS!
Anyone else: Wubs?  What in the hell are those?
Cman:"They're from my bass cannon!  Haven't you heard of...oh, never mind.  Crank the congressional bass to 11!!"

*DJ cuts in* and that was Vinyl Scratch's latest hit, 'All my Feels - the Democratic Underground Mix'.  Up next is the latest mash-up from DJ Skinnyhead, 'Counting to Potato'.


It might be the fever talking but yer hilarious.
 
2013-02-22 04:42:48 PM  

Jackson Herring: Every time I see VAWA I think "great, another three dozen barely sentient shiat wizards are going to complain about how it doesn't protect men in their fevered imaginations"


Meh, I think it would have better served everyone by being named something something domestic violence act and protect all types, LGBT or straight men and women from domestic violence.

Saying "pfft, straight men can protect themselves! Or Straight men are what we're protecting against", is awfully misandrist. And reinforces the perception that its men, not the violence, that is the problem.
 
2013-02-22 04:43:36 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: give me doughnuts: Looks as if they left stuff in for Native American women, subs.

Of course, they could be included under the rest of the bill if you wanted to strip the last bits of sovereingty away from the Native Americans. After all, what's one more treaty broken.

Indirectly, it does.

The House bill retains the ability of tribes to prosecute non-member criminals in a tribal court.  However, they inserted additional language that allows the accused to have the trial moved to a non-reservation court if they feel that their "rights" are being violated.
Given the option to move a trial to a different court, where the tribal prosecution has little/no jurisdiction, and limited ability to present their case, what do you think the accused will do every single time?



I still don't get the issue.  When the case gets moved, then the tribal prosecution simply turns over all of the documents, evidence and witness names to the federal prosecutor.
 
2013-02-22 04:44:27 PM  
Shills are out in force today except in this thread - I wonder why.
 
2013-02-22 04:45:36 PM  

neongoats: Meh, I think it would have better served everyone by being named something something domestic violence act and protect all types, LGBT or straight men and women from domestic violence.


IT DOES farkING PROTECT ALL TYPES
 
2013-02-22 04:45:59 PM  

DarwiOdrade: Shills are out in force today except in this thread - I wonder why.


Today is payday, there were waiting for the direct deposits to hit the bank accounts?
 
2013-02-22 04:46:53 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: The House bill retains the ability of tribes to prosecute non-member criminals in a tribal court.


When you say "non-member," do you mean non-Indian or do you mean Indians who are not members of the tribe served by the tribal court? Tribal courts already lack jurisdiction over non-Indian defendants - if the victim is also non-Indian then state courts have jurisdiction; if the victim is Indian, then jurisdiction lies in federal court pursuant to the General Crimes Act.
 
2013-02-22 04:46:59 PM  
These people have the gall to call themselves Christian
 
2013-02-22 04:47:33 PM  
As a liberal I'm loving this.

Yes! GOP show your true colors! Please keep doing this.  Please.  I'll even donate to your campaigns if you keep doing things like this.

GOP's worst enemy is it's own members.
 
2013-02-22 04:48:00 PM  

Jackson Herring: neongoats: Meh, I think it would have better served everyone by being named something something domestic violence act and protect all types, LGBT or straight men and women from domestic violence.

IT DOES farkING PROTECT ALL TYPES


Well, not if the House has any say in it.

I do agree that the name should be changed, though.  To people that don't follow politics closely, you have to explain, "Yeah, it's called violence against women act, but it does protect more than just women."  They should re-title it something more general.
 
2013-02-22 04:49:48 PM  

Jackson Herring: neongoats: Meh, I think it would have better served everyone by being named something something domestic violence act and protect all types, LGBT or straight men and women from domestic violence.

IT DOES farkING PROTECT ALL TYPES


Well then change the farking name of the bill to reflect that. When it comes to politics like this, it helps if appearances match the substance, else you are generating your own farking opposition by intentionally being obtuse.

Not everyone is going to read a line by line itemization of the proposed legislation, but they will likely hear its name.
 
2013-02-22 04:50:39 PM  

cman: Politics indeed

/BTW, thinking of switching to techno-socialism as my political viewpoints. Any thoughts?


Let me see if I understand what you mean, socialism facilitated by technology in order to avoid or curtail the kind of excesses, intrusions and abuses that traditional bureaucratic socialism fosters? Please elaborate if I am in error.

I am quite willing to discuss the idea, but I want to first make sure I understand what you are asking. No point in debating the topic if we end up misunderstanding each other's positions.
 
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