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2013-02-22 01:10:18 PM
You can tell he has street cred because he walks with a limp
 
2013-02-22 01:10:19 PM

ukexpat: I have never seen a bail hearing take so long. Why did it take days and not just a few hours and why did the judge/magistrate or whatever he is drone on so long giving his decision? A simple "bail granted" would have been sufficient.


You don't usually grant bail for people with a reputation for being a runner.
 
2013-02-22 01:11:06 PM

Popcorn Johnny: His statement in court said that he wasn't wearing his prosthetics when he went to check on the noise he heard. The bullet holes in the door where at a height of 5 feet. Not that his story made any sense in the first place, but this seals the deal.


He wasn't particularly close to the door that he was shooting through. You might be able to tell something from the angle that the bullets went through, but not from the 5 ft. height itself.
 
2013-02-22 01:11:14 PM

spammeister: Hyperbolic Hyperbole: i spend an awful lot of time on a news site to still have no idea what this story is about at all.

Well then, stop reading Fox News!


my browser wouldnt even open up Fox News today
 
2013-02-22 01:14:20 PM

Vodka Zombie: Subby?

You magnificent bastard!

 
2013-02-22 01:18:00 PM

GungFu: IAmRight: BTW, re: the defense claiming "well, crime is really high, so this is a totally logical sequence of events."

Um yeah, if this story passes muster, I think I can see why crime is so high. You don't even have to make up a plausible alibi!

"Yeah I shot my neighbor but I thought he was going to attack me!"
"You shot a 9-year-old kid 18 times."
"DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE CRIME RATES ARE HERE? I HEARD SOMEONE RING THE DOORBELL AND HAD TO PROTECT MYSELF!"

Yeah, it's total bullshiat.

The fact is this: he fired a machine gun into a bathroom - it's attempted murder, for one, regardless of who was in the bathroom. I'm pretty sure firing a machine gun into a closed area was not a warning tactic.

That he killed someone with his actions means he should get charged for murder or manslaughter charges. He should not get away for this because it was 'an accident'. Machine gun, ffs!

And who knows, burglar or not, he could have killed kids with his actions. Burglar kids, but kids all the same.

I hope this coont goes to jail. But I doubt he will. Yes, he will walk....an unnatural walk.


He'll most likely get hit with manslaughter charges, but this is South Africa so I'm not familiar with how their laws look upon unintended consequences.  That is if he can prove the consequences of his actions weren't intentional.  However, firing blindly into a door the person doing the firing generally has an idea of what will happen on the other side of the door.  This is a weird one though.
 
2013-02-22 01:19:11 PM

big_hed: farm machine: It would appear that the court is stumped as to where to put the monitoring device.  How about around his balls (can I say that?), they're apparently the size of car tires based on his account of the events.  And who the heck locks the bathroom door in their own home when they use it?

Apparently you don't live with any women.



huh?  Being female, having three sisters, lots of female roomates during college, first apartment etc, being married twice, I nor any female I have ever shared domicile with has ever locked the bathroom door for normal use.  Screaming brat "leave me alone I hate you all" tantrums, yes.  Going to pee, never.
 
2013-02-22 01:19:36 PM
Subby, you magnificent bastard.
 
2013-02-22 01:21:40 PM

fatalvenom: TheOther: '...not a flight risk.'

That's just cold.

Could have said, "he's not going to jump bail or anything else for that matter".


he's a farking Olympic farking sprinter.
Your average donut addict isn't going to catch him.
 
2013-02-22 01:27:14 PM
Hey, subs,

www.troll.me
 
2013-02-22 01:28:14 PM
Jeezus...this headline has a whole lot of this going on:

wfiles.brothersoft.com

or this:

02varvara.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-22 01:31:28 PM
i860.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-22 01:34:03 PM

scottydoesntknow: Pistorius' case took a dramatic turn Thursday as police announced that lead investigator Hilton Botha has been replaced. Botha, who testified earlier in the week, faces attempted murder charges from a 2011 case. The charges stem from an incident in which Botha and two other police officers allegedly shot at a minibus they were trying to stop.

Ohh christ, this is going to get messy.

/+1 subby!


Many Bothas died to bring us this information!
 
2013-02-22 01:37:12 PM
His defense is weak. He doesn't have a leg to stand on.
 
2013-02-22 01:37:58 PM

Skyrmion: Popcorn Johnny: His statement in court said that he wasn't wearing his prosthetics when he went to check on the noise he heard. The bullet holes in the door where at a height of 5 feet. Not that his story made any sense in the first place, but this seals the deal.

He wasn't particularly close to the door that he was shooting through. You might be able to tell something from the angle that the bullets went through, but not from the 5 ft. height itself.


There was a magistrate interviewed a few days back and he said it does not matter if he "felt" threatened. Under SA law firing blindly into a door constitutes murder.
 
2013-02-22 01:38:04 PM

keylock71: I freely admit I haven't been following this story closely as I don't really care one way or the other, but...

Doesn't it seem odd that a person would just fire off multiple rounds through a bathroom door without you know, checking to see if it was just his girlfriend taking a late night dump? Especially if one lives in a gated community?

Did his girlfriend not sleep in the same bed as him?

Again, I may be missing something vital to the story here, but his version of events seems a bit suspect to me. *shrug*


He mistook her for a washing machine.
 
2013-02-22 01:40:26 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-22 01:42:36 PM

GungFu: The fact is this: he fired a machine gun into a bathroom - it's attempted murder, for one, regardless of who was in the bathroom. I'm pretty sure firing a machine gun into a closed area was not a warning tactic.

That he killed someone with his actions means he should get charged for murder or manslaughter charges. He should not get away for this because it was 'an accident'. Machine gun, ffs!


And you're getting this info where? I can find no info that a machine gun was used as opposed to the 9 mm.
 
2013-02-22 01:45:11 PM
Wow, a lot of subby dick sucking in this thread for a headline that was lifted VERBATIM from the earlier thread.
 
2013-02-22 01:46:05 PM
+1 stubby
 
2013-02-22 01:48:33 PM

birchman: On his penis.


If you think that would work, you need to see a doctor, pronto!

Very nice headline, although if stolen please apply my admiration to the original subby.
 
2013-02-22 01:50:57 PM
www.analogdistortion.com
 
2013-02-22 01:51:04 PM

Popcorn Johnny: His statement in court said that he wasn't wearing his prosthetics when he went to check on the noise he heard. The bullet holes in the door where at a height of 5 feet. Not that his story made any sense in the first place, but this seals the deal.


So he couldn't have been aiming slightly upward?

Or downward from a top bunk?
 
2013-02-22 01:54:24 PM

YouPeopleAreCrazy: And you're getting this info where? I can find no info that a machine gun was used as opposed to the 9 mm.


Oh, you assumed that GungFu was referring to a fully-automatic firearm.  No, no, not at all.  It was simply a reference to the fact that a gun is a mechanical device;  that is, a machine.  Hence, "machine which happens to be a gun", or more concisely, "machine gun".  That's all.  Don't worry, it's an easy mistake to make.
 
2013-02-22 01:55:35 PM

MikeBoomshadow: Popcorn Johnny: His statement in court said that he wasn't wearing his prosthetics when he went to check on the noise he heard. The bullet holes in the door where at a height of 5 feet. Not that his story made any sense in the first place, but this seals the deal.

So he couldn't have been aiming slightly upward?

Or downward from a top bunk?


Why would a legless dude have bunk beds - and sleep on the top bunk - especially when he has (had) a supermodel GF?
Wait - are you being obtuse?
 
2013-02-22 01:57:55 PM

Vodka Zombie: Subby?

You magnificent bastard!


www.reactionface.info
 
2013-02-22 01:58:03 PM

ukexpat: I have never seen a bail hearing take so long. Why did it take days and not just a few hours and why did the judge/magistrate or whatever he is drone on so long giving his decision? A simple "bail granted" would have been sufficient.


To check that he wasn't doing steroids or other illegal drugs. Also, to cover the judge's ass and be sure he didn't get 'supporting a murderer' tattooed on his forehead.
 
2013-02-22 02:03:03 PM

give me doughnuts: Popcorn Johnny: His statement in court said that he wasn't wearing his prosthetics when he went to check on the noise he heard. The bullet holes in the door where at a height of 5 feet. Not that his story made any sense in the first place, but this seals the deal.

They missed a bullet left in the bathroom, didn't bother with shoe-coverings to prevent contamination of the crime scene, and "lost" the unused ammunition collected from the bedroom.

What other mistakes did they make? How accurate is the rest of their report?


Those darned police, always trying to get a case started off on an uneven footing.  The prosecution is going to be crippled by poor police work, and really have to hobble on their way to getting a conviction.
 
2013-02-22 02:09:32 PM

Langdon Alger: put the monitor around his neck so everyone can see it all the time. and make it extra tight so he'll think about what he's done everytime he eats or takes a drink that she will never have again.


images4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-02-22 02:11:48 PM

treesloth: Oh, you assumed that GungFu was referring to a fully-automatic firearm. No, no, not at all. It was simply a reference to the fact that a gun is a mechanical device; that is, a machine. Hence, "machine which happens to be a gun", or more concisely, "machine gun". That's all. Don't worry, it's an easy mistake to make.


Whew! Thanks for clearing that up!

It's almost as if people had different definitions and used trigger words for the same objects in order to promote some obscure agenda.
 
2013-02-22 02:12:10 PM
The guy is either guilty or murder or guilty of being a stupid idiot.
Either way he should rot in jail.
 
2013-02-22 02:14:59 PM
www.hollywoodtoday.net

I'm just waiting for the book to come out.
 
2013-02-22 02:16:27 PM

keylock71: I freely admit I haven't been following this story closely as I don't really care one way or the other, but...

Doesn't it seem odd that a person would just fire off multiple rounds through a bathroom door without you know, checking to see if it was just his girlfriend taking a late night dump? Especially if one lives in a gated community?

Did his girlfriend not sleep in the same bed as him?

Again, I may be missing something vital to the story here, but his version of events seems a bit suspect to me. *shrug*


I'm not sure what the moral of the story is.

Anyway, I'm coming back to the old grandfatherly standbys of "communication is key to the survival of any relationship" and "always check your targets."

I'm still waiting for somebody to claim God smote them because they were living in sin.
 
2013-02-22 02:17:09 PM

IAmRight: BTW, re: the defense claiming "well, crime is really high, so this is a totally logical sequence of events."

Um yeah, if this story passes muster, I think I can see why crime is so high. You don't even have to make up a plausible alibi!

"Yeah I shot my neighbor but I thought he was going to attack me!"
"You shot a 9-year-old kid 18 times."
"DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE CRIME RATES ARE HERE? I HEARD SOMEONE RING THE DOORBELL AND HAD TO PROTECT MYSELF!"


So Pistorius heard about the "stand your ground" law in florida and wanted to see if he qualified?
 
2013-02-22 02:17:31 PM
How do you let someone with an attempted murder charge hanging over their head be the lead detective in a murder case as high profile as this?

Truly negligent prosecution.
 
2013-02-22 02:18:47 PM
Great job subby...

i142.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-22 02:31:13 PM

President Merkin Muffley: Wow, a lot of subby dick sucking in this thread for a headline that was lifted VERBATIM from the earlier thread.


Agreed. There should be an investigation into why some headlines/stories are revered over far superior ones that are ignored.
 
2013-02-22 02:31:52 PM

GalFriday: Roses are REd
Violets are glorious
Never try to surprise
Oscar Pastorius


Your newsletter, ma'am: may I subscribe?
 
2013-02-22 02:35:14 PM

MikeBoomshadow: GalFriday: Roses are REd
Violets are glorious
Never try to surprise
Oscar Pastorius

Your newsletter, ma'am: may I subscribe?


That was from the original Valentine's Day thread a week ago. Do some of you people never login more than once a week or worse? For shame
 
2013-02-22 02:35:15 PM

cookiefleck: I'm pretty sure subby lifted this headline from a joke made in a previous thread about pistorious


Ya...its been done in the prior threads. Has anybody made a leg joke yet?

- Buzz Killington
 
2013-02-22 02:36:16 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-22 02:43:14 PM
They wouldn't give him an ankle monitor.  He'd just bedazzle it.
 
2013-02-22 02:46:58 PM
Good, if only because once again Jeffrey Toobin is made to look like a total putz. Mark Geragos totally owned him on AC360 last night. Then at the end of the segment Geragos reached over and patted Tubby on the hand as if to say, "It's okay, junior."

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/21/judge-not-jury-decides-pistori us -case/?hpt=ac_bn2
 
2013-02-22 02:49:24 PM

treesloth: YouPeopleAreCrazy: And you're getting this info where? I can find no info that a machine gun was used as opposed to the 9 mm.

Oh, you assumed that GungFu was referring to a fully-automatic firearm.  No, no, not at all.  It was simply a reference to the fact that a gun is a mechanical device;  that is, a machine.  Hence, "machine which happens to be a gun", or more concisely, "machine gun".  That's all.  Don't worry, it's an easy mistake to make.


I'm a Brit. I only know guns from watching the gun shop scene in The Terminator, and that if it's an automatic, it's a machine gun, like an Uzi or a Glock.

Don't judge me!
 
2013-02-22 02:49:34 PM

GungFu: IAmRight: BTW, re: the defense claiming "well, crime is really high, so this is a totally logical sequence of events."

Um yeah, if this story passes muster, I think I can see why crime is so high. You don't even have to make up a plausible alibi!

"Yeah I shot my neighbor but I thought he was going to attack me!"
"You shot a 9-year-old kid 18 times."
"DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE CRIME RATES ARE HERE? I HEARD SOMEONE RING THE DOORBELL AND HAD TO PROTECT MYSELF!"

Yeah, it's total bullshiat.

The fact is this: he fired a machine gun into a bathroom - it's attempted murder, for one, regardless of who was in the bathroom. I'm pretty sure firing a machine gun into a closed area was not a warning tactic.

That he killed someone with his actions means he should get charged for murder or manslaughter charges. He should not get away for this because it was 'an accident'. Machine gun, ffs!

And who knows, burglar or not, he could have killed kids with his actions. Burglar kids, but kids all the same.

I hope this coont goes to jail. But I doubt he will. Yes, he will walk....an unnatural walk.


Why do you keep saying machine gun? It was a 9 mm pistol. Is this the media guide to assault rifles? Other than that I agree with you. Firing any type of gun blindly through a bathroom door should get you negligent homicide at a minimum. Assuming they have that in SA.
 
2013-02-22 02:54:35 PM

HaywoodJablonski: MikeBoomshadow: GalFriday: Roses are REd
Violets are glorious
Never try to surprise
Oscar Pastorius

Your newsletter, ma'am: may I subscribe?

That was from the original Valentine's Day thread a week ago. Do some of you people never login more than once a week or worse? For shame


No, I'm on almost every day, but sometimes I miss things by not following all threads until they close. I do this to fool people into thinking I have a life.
 
2013-02-22 03:01:33 PM

SlothB77: How do you let someone with an attempted murder charge hanging over their head be the lead detective in a murder case as high profile as this?

Truly negligent prosecution.


That was kinda the point of the question i asked earlier, that no one deemed able or willing to answer (jerks). If the guy has this thang over his head, but his bosses deem still competent in his job to let him run around doing cop stuff, then what does that case have to do with this case?

Wouldn't this set up a situation where every other, case the guy has been working on since those charges were brought up against him now be in danger of being thrown out?

Why isn't this guy on desk duty? Is he a super cop that doesn't follow the rules like Mel Gibson in lethal weapon?

Hey! Weren't there South Africans in lethal weapon?


The plot thickens.....
 
2013-02-22 03:01:55 PM

brigid_fitch: keylock71: I freely admit I haven't been following this story closely as I don't really care one way or the other, but...

Doesn't it seem odd that a person would just fire off multiple rounds through a bathroom door without you know, checking to see if it was just his girlfriend taking a late night dump? Especially if one lives in a gated community?

Did his girlfriend not sleep in the same bed as him?

Again, I may be missing something vital to the story here, but his version of events seems a bit suspect to me. *shrug*

The magistrate pointed that out during his 90-minute bail soliloquy, too.  Pistorius hears someone in the bathroom, grabs his gun, goes to the bathroom door, and fires.  Doesn't put on his prosthetics, doesn't check to see if his girlfriend is in bed next to him, doesn't call out to see if it's her in the bathroom--just fires.  I don't care how groggy you are in the middle of the night, your first instincts aren't to fire blindly at a locked bathroom door.


Based on his statement, he woke up, got out of bed to move a fan and when he returned to bed he noticed that someone was in the toilet room within the bathroom. The bathroom window was open. He said that in hindsight, she must have gotten up as he was moving the fan. So I assume his girlfriend was next to him in bed when he got out, and by the time he returned she was in the toilet room and that's where the confusion set in. If I get out of a bed where I know my wife is sleeping and 30 seconds later notice that someone is locked in the bathroom, my first thought might be an intruder.
 
2013-02-22 03:08:23 PM

PoochUMD: The magistrate pointed that out during his 90-minute bail soliloquy, too. Pistorius hears someone in the bathroom, grabs his gun, goes to the bathroom door, and fires. Doesn't put on his prosthetics, doesn't check to see if his girlfriend is in bed next to him, doesn't call out to see if it's her in the bathroom--just fires. I don't care how groggy you are in the middle of the night, your first instincts aren't to fire blindly at a locked bathroom door.

Based on his statement, he woke up, got out of bed to move a fan and when he returned to bed he noticed that someone was in the toilet room within the bathroom. The bathroom window was open. He said that in hindsight, she must have gotten up as he was moving the fan. So I assume his girlfriend was next to him in bed when he got out, and by the time he returned she was in the toilet room and that's where the confusion set in. If I get out of a bed where I know my wife is sleeping and 30 seconds later notice that someone is locked in the bathroom, my first thought might be an intruder.


It may not matter. There was another magistrate interviewed a few days back and he said it does not matter if he "felt" threatened. Under SA law firing blindly into a door constitutes murder.
 
2013-02-22 03:19:30 PM

lucksi: Sybarite: When the case goes to trial, a judge will decide Pistorius' fate. There are no jury trials in criminal cases in South Africa

Hmm, learned something new.

Dude, most of the world has a different justice system. In fact, if your country doesn't have a trial by jury system, you'd find a system with a jury utterly ridiculous.

On the other hand, I always get a laugh if some stupid reporter says "Didn't get a trial by jury just like in Nazi-Germany" Or, you know, modern day Germany.


50% of all the jury trails in the world are conducted in the United States.
 
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