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2013-02-22 08:53:50 AM
Should be obvious tag. Advertising company doesn't want people blocking adverts.
 
2013-02-22 08:58:02 AM
But Google took the position that there is a significant security risk in allowing software to automatically redirect web connections in this manner. The internet giant has now fenced off proxy configuration because malicious programs can use it to intercept users' data and endanger their privacy.

Adblock will work perfectly fine, but you have to manually setup the proxy yourself, rather than apps being allowed to automatically route all of your web traffic through a proxy with no notification.

www.topofarmer.com
 
2013-02-22 09:07:21 AM

DammitIForgotMyLogin: But Google took the position that there is a significant security risk in allowing software to automatically redirect web connections in this manner. The internet giant has now fenced off proxy configuration because malicious programs can use it to intercept users' data and endanger their privacy.

Adblock will work perfectly fine, but you have to manually setup the proxy yourself, rather than apps being allowed to automatically route all of your web traffic through a proxy with no notification.

[www.topofarmer.com image 500x276]


Like I (and 99% of the world) knows how to do that sh*t.
 
2013-02-22 09:09:44 AM

Walker: DammitIForgotMyLogin: But Google took the position that there is a significant security risk in allowing software to automatically redirect web connections in this manner. The internet giant has now fenced off proxy configuration because malicious programs can use it to intercept users' data and endanger their privacy.

Adblock will work perfectly fine, but you have to manually setup the proxy yourself, rather than apps being allowed to automatically route all of your web traffic through a proxy with no notification.

[www.topofarmer.com image 500x276]

Like I (and 99% of the world) knows how to do that sh*t.


Maybe not now, but it's a good point. We can always learn.
 
2013-02-22 09:14:27 AM

Slaxl: Should be obvious tag. Advertising company doesn't want people blocking adverts.


Done in one

You think a company is gonna support something that has the potential to take revenue away from themselves? Hell no
 
2013-02-22 09:23:49 AM
After dealing with the headaches of sloppy apps and unreliable behavior on my wife's Toshiba Android tablet for just over a year now, I'm wishing we had gotten an iPad instead.

The only reason she wanted the Android was because she had ebooks from a Sony ereader and didn't want to lose them. They won't work with anthing but the Sony Reader app and iPad doesn't allow for the Sony app.
 
2013-02-22 09:39:48 AM
So it looks like your choice is between Apple's ever increasing broken updates and failed upgrades, and google's ever increasing leeching of your privacy and pretending to continue to "do no evil."

If only there were another option out there for mobile.
 
2013-02-22 09:45:24 AM

Dufus: After dealing with the headaches of sloppy apps and unreliable behavior on my wife's Toshiba Android tablet for just over a year now, I'm wishing we had gotten an iPad instead.

The only reason she wanted the Android was because she had ebooks from a Sony ereader and didn't want to lose them. They won't work with anthing but the Sony Reader app and iPad doesn't allow for the Sony app.


Android is to windows as iOS is to Mac.
 
2013-02-22 09:47:55 AM

Slaxl: Should be obvious tag. Advertising company doesn't want people blocking adverts.


Yeah, its not a security risk, just a risk to their ad revenue
 
2013-02-22 09:49:13 AM

Walker: DammitIForgotMyLogin: But Google took the position that there is a significant security risk in allowing software to automatically redirect web connections in this manner. The internet giant has now fenced off proxy configuration because malicious programs can use it to intercept users' data and endanger their privacy.

Adblock will work perfectly fine, but you have to manually setup the proxy yourself, rather than apps being allowed to automatically route all of your web traffic through a proxy with no notification.

[www.topofarmer.com image 500x276]

Like I (and 99% of the world) knows how to do that sh*t.


Its not that hard.  And the security risks of funneling all of your traffic through a proxy that you didn't configure are pretty severe.   Swapped-proxy settings were one of the oldest infection vectors for malware.
 
2013-02-22 09:50:29 AM

Dufus: After dealing with the headaches of sloppy apps and unreliable behavior on my wife's Toshiba Android tablet for just over a year now, I'm wishing we had gotten an iPad instead.

The only reason she wanted the Android was because she had ebooks from a Sony ereader and didn't want to lose them. They won't work with anthing but the Sony Reader app and iPad doesn't allow for the Sony app.


The problem is Toshiba not android, root the device and get rid of their bloat ware and it will work a lot better, just out of curiosity what version of android are you using? I would bet there is a not so public update that Toshiba doesn't want you to know about since it would allow you to delete or disable most of their shiat.
 
2013-02-22 09:50:49 AM
Doesn't matter, because after the last Firefox for Android update I can't even open a page without it crashing.
 
2013-02-22 10:02:00 AM
Wat?

In Chrome land, Google changed the way users could search for its web browser's apps, and since Adblock Plus was established as an extension, the utility stopped appearing when users looked for apps. Adblock Plus switched to offering a Chrome app on 12 December, only for Google to take it down 12 hours later.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-22 10:05:15 AM

steamingpile: Yeah, its not a security risk


The Loaf: And the security risks of funneling all of your traffic through a proxy that you didn't configure are pretty severe.


One of these two are correct. (Hint: it's "The Loaf.")
 
2013-02-22 10:13:37 AM
I'm of two minds on this. Yes, having an app be able to change proxy settings without your knowledge is potentially bad and Google is right to call it a security risk but I just can't shake the feeling that Google is targeting Adblock because it potentially cuts into their profits and security is a convenient excuse.
 
2013-02-22 10:15:03 AM
Oh and honestly . Why does anyone need an Adblocker for Android in the first place? I've never used one dating all the way back to Cupcake and am never have been bothered by any ad.. Any half way decent app developed by a real developer and not some Nigerian sitting in a basement usually offers a cheap paid version to rid of ads.. Support the developers and such.. Mobile versions of websites have some of the most rational banner ads compared to their desktop counterparts.

And don't even get me started about the retards running Avast and security suites on a god damn Android device..
 
2013-02-22 10:21:38 AM

Slaxl: Walker: DammitIForgotMyLogin: But Google took the position that there is a significant security risk in allowing software to automatically redirect web connections in this manner. The internet giant has now fenced off proxy configuration because malicious programs can use it to intercept users' data and endanger their privacy.

Adblock will work perfectly fine, but you have to manually setup the proxy yourself, rather than apps being allowed to automatically route all of your web traffic through a proxy with no notification.

[www.topofarmer.com image 500x276]

Like I (and 99% of the world) knows how to do that sh*t.

Maybe not now, but it's a good point. We can always learn.


BOO

/jk education's very important
 
2013-02-22 10:30:27 AM

Dufus: After dealing with the headaches of sloppy apps and unreliable behavior on my wife's Toshiba Android tablet for just over a year now, I'm wishing we had gotten an iPad instead.

The only reason she wanted the Android was because she had ebooks from a Sony ereader and didn't want to lose them. They won't work with anthing but the Sony Reader app and iPad doesn't allow for the Sony app.


So remove the drm from the epub and use whatever ebook reader or software you want to view the epub. I buy plenty of epub's and read them in iBooks. Or convert them and use Kindle app
 
2013-02-22 10:31:39 AM

Generation_D: If only there were another option out there for mobile.


Sadly the other best option is Nokia. But ever since Elop drank the koolaid and gutted what was best about the company and sold its soul to Microsoft, I can no longer stand behind the company.

I have been an exclusive Nokia user since I started using cell phones more than 15 years ago. Right now I'm using an N9. The last of true Nokia innovation and in house development. If this had been matured and brought to full realization, it would have been a serious contender. Its speed, interface and looks put it at or above the level of the other phones that were out when it was released. But instead it was gutted and made a Windows phone and re-released as the Lumia in North America.
I had to import my N9 from Europe.

I don't know what I'm going to do after this phone is done. Certainly not crApple. But I'm not fond of some of the things Google is doing with Android.
 
2013-02-22 10:31:54 AM
Is Firefox the best browser? No
Is Adblock Plus worth using a browser that isn't the best? Yes
 
2013-02-22 10:32:38 AM
The maker of Adblock Plus is upset its users must jump through hoops to get its advert-banishing app working on devices running Android - the mobile OS made by advertising giant Google.

Funny, I think this is the first time I've heard of them being called an "advertising giant". In all reality, I would take Google ads over flashing banners, auto-play video ads, and popups. I think all of the butthurt boys and girls out there would have kittens if they lost their free Google Earth, their free Google Search, their free Google Maps and their free Gmail unless they allowed in these kinds of ads.

In other news, people are just never happy, they want everything for free, and they want it on exactly their terms.
 
2013-02-22 10:34:48 AM

Generation_D: So it looks like your choice is between Apple's ever increasing broken updates and failed upgrades, and google's ever increasing leeching of your privacy and pretending to continue to "do no unnecessary evil."

If only there were another option out there for mobile.


FTFY
 
2013-02-22 10:37:57 AM
So it`s NOT that google have blocked adblock for android, just chrome.

don`t use chrome anyway...
 
2013-02-22 10:40:09 AM
Honestly, I agree with Google on this one.  Programs shouldn't be allowed to auto-proxy your machine.
 
2013-02-22 10:47:31 AM
I've yet to find a better Android browser than Dolphin. The gestures, interface, and smoothness when scrolling are great. I especially love how the address bar and tabs hide to give you maximum viewing screen space.

The last I tried them, Firefox and Chrome were awful in comparison. Have they gotten any better?
 
2013-02-22 10:51:05 AM

CtrlAltDestroy: I've yet to find a better Android browser than Dolphin. The gestures, interface, and smoothness when scrolling are great. I especially love how the address bar and tabs hide to give you maximum viewing screen space.

The last I tried them, Firefox and Chrome were awful in comparison. Have they gotten any better?


Dolphin lags terribly for me. Not as bad as Firefox, sure, but still laggy.
 
2013-02-22 10:54:24 AM

forteblast: Is Firefox the best browser? No
Is Adblock Plus worth using a browser that isn't the best? Yes


This times a brazillian.

If you are dumb enough to use Chrome made by the biggest advertising and tracking agent in the world then you deserve whatever you get.  There are differences between AdBlock on Chrome and on Firefox.  Just because it's the same name doesn't mean it does the same job.
 
2013-02-22 11:00:40 AM

Generation_D: So it looks like your choice is between Apple's ever increasing broken updates and failed upgrades, and google's ever increasing leeching of your privacy and pretending to continue to "do no evil."

If only there were another option out there for mobile.


I love the Google fanbois though.  They remind me of the Sony fanbois and are more obnoxious than Mac Fanbois anymore.  Mac fanbois are like American Idol or Tom Brady fans. They just follow around what is cool in a big herd.  Google fans treat it like a religion.

/They are why no one else is on Google +. People  hate you.
 
2013-02-22 11:06:26 AM

Nemo's Brother: Generation_D: So it looks like your choice is between Apple's ever increasing broken updates and failed upgrades, and google's ever increasing leeching of your privacy and pretending to continue to "do no evil."

If only there were another option out there for mobile.

I love the Google fanbois though.  They remind me of the Sony fanbois and are more obnoxious than Mac Fanbois anymore.  Mac fanbois are like American Idol or Tom Brady fans. They just follow around what is cool in a big herd.  Google fans treat it like a religion.

/They are why no one else is on Google +. People  hate you.


Some of them think Google should run the entire internet
 
2013-02-22 11:08:16 AM

Nemo's Brother: I love the Google fanbois though.  They remind me of the Sony fanbois and are more obnoxious than Mac Fanbois anymore.  Mac fanbois are like American Idol or Tom Brady fans. They just follow around what is cool in a big herd.  Google fans treat it like a religion.

/They are why no one else is on Google +. People  hate you.


You're just jealous that Sony and Apple aren't divine.
 
2013-02-22 11:10:44 AM

CtrlAltDestroy: I've yet to find a better Android browser than Dolphin. The gestures, interface, and smoothness when scrolling are great. I especially love how the address bar and tabs hide to give you maximum viewing screen space.

The last I tried them, Firefox and Chrome were awful in comparison. Have they gotten any better?


I didn't have any major issues with Firefox until this last update.  Now it crashes every time it opens.  If it doesn't get fixed in the next couple of days, I'm switching to something else.
 
2013-02-22 11:15:20 AM

Walker: DammitIForgotMyLogin: But Google took the position that there is a significant security risk in allowing software to automatically redirect web connections in this manner. The internet giant has now fenced off proxy configuration because malicious programs can use it to intercept users' data and endanger their privacy.

Adblock will work perfectly fine, but you have to manually setup the proxy yourself, rather than apps being allowed to automatically route all of your web traffic through a proxy with no notification.

[www.topofarmer.com image 500x276]

Like I (and 99% of the world) knows how to do that sh*t.


Might I suggest using Google to find out.
 
2013-02-22 11:15:27 AM

swaxhog: Dufus: After dealing with the headaches of sloppy apps and unreliable behavior on my wife's Toshiba Android tablet for just over a year now, I'm wishing we had gotten an iPad instead.

The only reason she wanted the Android was because she had ebooks from a Sony ereader and didn't want to lose them. They won't work with anthing but the Sony Reader app and iPad doesn't allow for the Sony app.

So remove the drm from the epub and use whatever ebook reader or software you want to view the epub. I buy plenty of epub's and read them in iBooks. Or convert them and use Kindle app


Between Moon+Reader for your device and Calibre on the PC... I haven't found an ebook I can't read. 99% I can straight up read, the other small percentage I can convert, then read.
 
2013-02-22 11:16:46 AM

Dufus: After dealing with the headaches of sloppy apps and unreliable behavior on my wife's Toshiba Android tablet for just over a year now, I'm wishing we had gotten an iPad instead.

The only reason she wanted the Android was because she had ebooks from a Sony ereader and didn't want to lose them. They won't work with anthing but the Sony Reader app and iPad doesn't allow for the Sony app.


Calibre (free ebook software) can strip the DRM from ebooks and even convert between formats.
 
2013-02-22 11:23:19 AM
So I use Google chrome and have adblock and 2-3 do not track add-ons to make sure they overlap. Am I wasting my time?
 
2013-02-22 11:34:12 AM
Why do I get the feeling that the Fark IT squad is hearing Drew scream "DO EEEEET!!!!" over the phone right now?
 
2013-02-22 11:35:27 AM
Except its android.  You can still install the software.  Had it been something like iOS or Win8RT then you would be screwed.
 
2013-02-22 11:36:03 AM
lh4.ggpht.com
 
2013-02-22 11:52:22 AM

styckx: Oh and honestly . Why does anyone need an Adblocker for Android in the first place? I've never used one dating all the way back to Cupcake and am never have been bothered by any ad.. Any half way decent app developed by a real developer and not some Nigerian sitting in a basement usually offers a cheap paid version to rid of ads.. Support the developers and such.. Mobile versions of websites have some of the most rational banner ads compared to their desktop counterparts.

And don't even get me started about the retards running Avast and security suites on a god damn Android device..


Fark's mobile site had an autoplay video ad on it a few months ago.  That made me switch from Chrome to Firefox mobile so I could use adblock.
 
2013-02-22 11:59:21 AM

JustMatt: Fark's mobile site had an autoplay video ad on it a few months ago.  That made me switch from Chrome to Firefox mobile so I could use adblock.


Thank god those ads are at least violating fark policy, and get removed when discovered. So there's that.
 
2013-02-22 12:01:26 PM
Another reason to keep using Firefox on Android and the desktop. What would our 1999 selves say if we were to go back in time and tell them we were using a web browser made my the owners of DoubleClick?
 
2013-02-22 12:13:15 PM

bsharitt: Another reason to keep using Firefox on Android and the desktop. What would our 1999 selves say if we were to go back in time and tell them we were using a web browser made my the owners of DoubleClick?


"Sure you do... and the President's black 8-)"
 
2013-02-22 12:14:06 PM

yet_another_wumpus: Except its android.  You can still install the software.  Had it been something like iOS or Win8RT then you would be screwed.


LolWut.jpg
 
2013-02-22 12:14:44 PM
Since the adblock app also removes ads from other apps I have no problem taking the five minutes to learn how and set up a proxy on the phone.
 
2013-02-22 12:21:03 PM
It's nice they waited until they built a decent market share to cripple one of the major attractions of their product.

/I think I'll start posting ads in my fark postings. Might as well jam stuff down people's throats. My throat is no different than theirs.
/I can't use the browser on my Blu-ray player because every site wants to shove active content down my machine. They could care less how it affects my internet experience. It isn't as though their content couldn't determine what my browser could handle then adapt their content to that. Nope, just shove it in till it stops.
 
2013-02-22 12:22:05 PM

Lexx: Honestly, I agree with Google on this one.  Programs shouldn't be allowed to auto-proxy your machine.


I don't feel that Google has an obligation to make 3rd party extensions continue to work with security upgrades.

Right now its is claimed that installing AdBlock can be done but is an eight-stage process. I'm sure the people at AdBlock will be working on shrinking this and they may come up with some general suggested improvements to Android which would allow this to again become a one step process.

The time to start accusing Google is if they refuse any changes so as to make using AdBlock as technically demanding and obnoxious as possible.
 
2013-02-22 12:32:31 PM

styckx: Wat?

In Chrome land, Google changed the way users could search for its web browser's apps, and since Adblock Plus was established as an extension, the utility stopped appearing when users looked for apps. Adblock Plus switched to offering a Chrome app on 12 December, only for Google to take it down 12 hours later.

[i.imgur.com image 850x655]



Chrome on Android devices. Not your computer.
 
2013-02-22 12:33:14 PM

steamingpile: Slaxl: Should be obvious tag. Advertising company doesn't want people blocking adverts.

Yeah, its not a security risk, just a risk to their ad revenue


But not allowing it is also a risk to their ad revenue, since if I can't run AdBlock on Chrome, I'll just use Firefoxm where I can. Either way, I am not being inundated by ads.
 
2013-02-22 12:36:26 PM
You're better off rooting anyway, then you can use AdFree which blocks ads at the hosts file level (including blocking ads in your other apps). And once you're rooted, LBE Privacy Guard lets you turn app permissions on and off individually. Don't want Groupon having your location? No problem. Don't want Angry Birds on the internet draining your battery? No problem.
 
2013-02-22 12:37:31 PM
swaxhog:

So remove the drm from the epub and use whatever ebook reader or software you want to view the epub. I buy plenty of epub's and read them in iBooks.

I Googled how to do that.There are plugins for Calibre to remove the DRM, and/or you can use Calibre through iTunes: "If you are connecting an Apple iDevice (iPad, iPod Touch, iPhone), use the 'Connect to iTunes' method in the 'Getting started' instructions in Calibre + Apple iDevices: Start here."

Then here's how to read 'em.


Or convert them and use Kindle app

Calibre converts too. I prefer PDFs myself.

Here's the Calbre manual or jump to the FAQ section.

By the way, I'm not connected in any way with Calibre or its developer. But in addition to providing free publicity here I just actually sent the guy my remaining Paypal balance: $5.00. (The last week of the month is always tight but my conscience chewed on me too hard.)
 
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