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2013-02-22 05:44:20 PM  

Saiga410: Dangit dangit dangit.  I know I am going to break out the DVDs this weekend.... well there goes all my plans.

 
2013-02-22 05:51:31 PM  
Some of you confuse derision with analysis.
 
2013-02-22 06:06:12 PM  
No love for Starhunter?
No?

NONE???

Bah.

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2013-02-22 06:13:18 PM  
i.imgur.com

20? more like 40 subby...

/well I was 8 then
 
2013-02-22 06:49:46 PM  

tillerman35: My vote goes to Space: 1999, with a nod to the Original Battlestar Gallactica (or more correctly stated, the ONLY Battlestar Gallactica).

/Off my lawn, you blasted kids!


No love for

i49.tinypic.com

digilander.libero.it

Always think of 1999 and UFO together for some reason.
 
2013-02-22 06:50:29 PM  
Huge sci-fi fan, but I have to admit I never watched B5. One of these days I'll get to it, I guess.
 
2013-02-22 07:20:31 PM  

hogans: But you're right, the series is pretty consistently good after about the first half of season one.

Farscape

hit its stride with the episodes "Nerve" and "The Hidden Memory" late in Season 1.  The show finally got a truly frightening antagonist and established what became the overall story-arc of the series.

Additionally, it had one of the greatest STFU moments in television history: "You know what I give you, Crais?  Your life.  I will make you watch your life."
 
2013-02-22 07:30:00 PM  

perigee: [static.btvguide.com image 512x341]
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There - have three. No - no - make it four:

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You missed Jason of Star Command, which I watched in its entirety a couple of weeks ago.  It was...awwwwwwweessooooommmmmeeeee.
 
2013-02-22 07:32:17 PM  

cman: Oh HELL no

DS9 was greater than all other Treks plus Babylon 5 combined.

Well, it is amazing what stealing someone else's ideas and putting an established franchise budget behind them can accomplish.

 
2013-02-22 07:54:09 PM  

iaazathot: cman: Oh HELL no

DS9 was greater than all other Treks plus Babylon 5 combined.

Well, it is amazing what stealing someone else's ideas and putting an established franchise budget behind them can accomplish.


...and better writers, and better actors...
 
2013-02-22 08:21:20 PM  

VTGremlin: Season 5 did have one thing going for it. The best title sequence on a TV show.


Thanks for the link..I just watched it again

/damn that was good
 
2013-02-22 08:38:47 PM  

fusillade762: Always think of 1999 and UFO together for some reason.


Folks, do yourself a favor and run a quick Google image search on the lovely young lady in the purple wig, Gabrielle Drake.

You *won't* be disappointed.  Guaranteed.
 
2013-02-22 08:51:40 PM  

fusillade762: Huge sci-fi fan, but I have to admit I never watched B5. One of these days I'll get to it, I guess.


Don't let my comments give you the wrong impression.  The series is fragging epic.  I've passed it on to at least half dozen other friends, who have in turn passed it on to their friends.  Once it hooks you into the arcs you can't get enough of it.

For some reason I'm not as big of a fan of JMS as I once was.  Could be the Gwen Stacy thing.

But I got lotsa love for B5.  And DAMN...I sure wish Crusade had the chance to take off.  It probably would've been pretty great as well.  Could be I'm still a bit sore about that. Yeah...could be.
 
2013-02-22 08:57:52 PM  
i47.tinypic.com i49.tinypic.com
 
2013-02-22 09:01:48 PM  

madgonad: ristst: Ironically, Christian noted, her replacement (actress Tracy Scoggins) appeared on only eight episodes that season.

Uhm, that is totally wrong.

Scoggins was in every single episode in season 5. I think you are confusing her with Conaway - he was only in a fraction of the fifth season.



Sorry, that was a quote from that article.  Counting her IMDB credits, she appears in 11 episodes.  10 others were listed as (credit only).  To be honest, I don't recall.  For that matter I'd need to rewatch and note that kind of thing for her...or pretty much every character.  Plus...not quite as into the 5th season as the previous.  Soom good stuff, yes...but uneven.
 
2013-02-22 09:33:53 PM  

madgonad: Zombie DJ: Teufelaffe: **SPOILER below**

Same as Babylon 5.

Yep.
TOS killed Kirk and Spock 1.0
TNG has only killed Tasha and Data
DS9 killed Jadzia (kinda) and Sisko (kinda)
Voyager killed Janeway 2.0


Actually, TNG killed the entire Enterprise crew several times in a few episodes involving time loops. As well as killing Picard's future self in one of those time loop episodes. "All Good Thing" as both the Past and the Future Enterprises blow up as well. And there have been whole planets killed off or mutated during Trek as well. Borg destroyed planets or assimilated them.
 
2013-02-22 09:44:33 PM  
Well, that does it. Bought the complete series from WB. Good news is it's 75% off. Bad news is I have to tell the wife.
 
2013-02-22 10:12:13 PM  
yves0010:
I like how that relationship was still in the "are they / could they " playing field even through the movies. And I also like the idea that Wesley might of been Picard's child. I heard one of those fan theories and it actually makes up for the whole "Shut Up Welsey" lines that happen every episode. But yes, it could of been better if Wesley was done in some how. Or made his character a lot more bad ass as he grew up.

Please - stop doing this.

/might have
//could have
 
2013-02-22 10:33:29 PM  
Feh!

I know a certain sci-fi show that is celebrating it's 50th anniversary this year!

/B5 is NOTHING!
 
2013-02-22 10:47:19 PM  

Stile4aly: Well, that does it. Bought the complete series from WB. Good news is it's 75% off. Bad news is I have to tell the wife.


79%. With the movies and all 5 seasons, it's about $75. Not bad.
 
2013-02-22 10:47:25 PM  

yves0010: And there have been whole planets killed off or mutated during Trek as well. Borg destroyed planets or assimilated them.


Meh... the Vorlons and Shadows were killing planets like they were crushing ants, just because of their alignment to the other party, and would probably have sterilized the galaxy if they hadn't been stopped. Just because they could. And because they were a bunch of sociopaths.
 
2013-02-22 11:05:25 PM  

How did we end up in this dumazz episode anyhow??

sparklynnrocks.files.wordpress.com

 
2013-02-22 11:05:34 PM  

Omnivorous: War of the Worlds (1938).

Now get off Orson Welles' lawn.

/John Houseman produced that broadcast.


I liked the TV series.
www.topdvdhotdeal.net
Which came in two flavors thanks to gigantic reboot between seasons.
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2013-02-22 11:30:30 PM  

HempHead: How did we end up in this dumazz episode anyhow??


Shut your goddamned mouth.

/loving B5 doesn't mean I don't also love DS9
 
2013-02-22 11:41:23 PM  
www.deviantart.com
Why did you have to be so expensive to make
/hot
 
2013-02-22 11:50:01 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: Stile4aly: Well, that does it. Bought the complete series from WB. Good news is it's 75% off. Bad news is I have to tell the wife.

79%. With the movies and all 5 seasons, it's about $75. Not bad.


Do you have a link for that?  When I got the WB I see it as over $200.

tinderfitles: [www.deviantart.com image 850x531]
Why did you have to be so expensive to make
/hot


In the pilot episode they had a flat screen TV in someone's home.  Mind you this is in the early/mid 90's.  It looked super futuristic; but that prop was on screen for 15 secs and probably cost $10k.

/no link to the Geek tab for this story guys?
 
2013-02-22 11:52:50 PM  

KingsleyZisou: OtherLittleGuy: Stile4aly: Well, that does it. Bought the complete series from WB. Good news is it's 75% off. Bad news is I have to tell the wife.

79%. With the movies and all 5 seasons, it's about $75. Not bad.

Do you have a link for that?  When I got the WB I see it as over $200.


Got to go to wbstore.com instead of warnerbros.com.

http://www.wbshop.com/search.do?query=babylon+5
 
2013-02-22 11:54:00 PM  

Teufelaffe: KingsleyZisou: OtherLittleGuy: Stile4aly: Well, that does it. Bought the complete series from WB. Good news is it's 75% off. Bad news is I have to tell the wife.

79%. With the movies and all 5 seasons, it's about $75. Not bad.

Do you have a link for that?  When I got the WB I see it as over $200.

Got to go to wbstore.com instead of warnerbros.com.

http://www.wbshop.com/search.do?query=babylon+5


er...wbshop.com.
 
2013-02-22 11:54:14 PM  

tillerman35: Giving Flounder a major role and the involvement of Bruce Boxleightner pretty much killed it for me.  Also the weird transylvanian accents that those space-vampire looking dudes had were pretty annoying.  Cool graphics for its time, though.

My vote goes to Space: 1999, with a nod to the Original Battlestar Gallactica (or more correctly stated, the ONLY Battlestar Gallactica).

/Off my lawn, you blasted kids!


I grew up in the 70s and this was one of my favorite shows.  The episode with the derelict space station housing this hypnotizing monster  that would melt corpses scared the crap out of me.  Best disco theme song evar!
 
2013-02-22 11:56:53 PM  

KingsleyZisou: OtherLittleGuy: Stile4aly: Well, that does it. Bought the complete series from WB. Good news is it's 75% off. Bad news is I have to tell the wife.

79%. With the movies and all 5 seasons, it's about $75. Not bad.

Do you have a link for that?  When I got the WB I see it as over $200.

tinderfitles: [www.deviantart.com image 850x531]
Why did you have to be so expensive to make
/hot

In the pilot episode they had a flat screen TV in someone's home.  Mind you this is in the early/mid 90's.  It looked super futuristic; but that prop was on screen for 15 secs and probably cost $10k.

/no link to the Geek tab for this story guys?


Thats a hosing.  WB is selling the individual seasons and the movies for $12.

http://www.wbshop.com/product/babylon+5+the+complete+third+season+10 00 045163.do?ref=CAFRGL&CAWELAID=908434271&gclid=CO2fztDRy7UCFc5AMgodIVgA Rw
 
2013-02-23 12:02:56 AM  

RocketRay: tillerman35: Giving Flounder a major role and the involvement of Bruce Boxleightner pretty much killed it for me.  Also the weird transylvanian accents that those space-vampire looking dudes had were pretty annoying.  Cool graphics for its time, though.

My vote goes to Space: 1999, with a nod to the Original Battlestar Gallactica (or more correctly stated, the ONLY Battlestar Gallactica).

/Off my lawn, you blasted kids!

I grew up in the 70s and this was one of my favorite shows.  The episode with the derelict space station housing this hypnotizing monster  that would melt corpses scared the crap out of me.  Best disco theme song evar!


Yeah, loved that show.  A little beyond your typical TV gore for the period:


i50.tinypic.com
 
2013-02-23 12:23:08 AM  

yves0010: madgonad: Zombie DJ: Teufelaffe: **SPOILER below**

Same as Babylon 5.

Yep.
TOS killed Kirk and Spock 1.0
TNG has only killed Tasha and Data
DS9 killed Jadzia (kinda) and Sisko (kinda)
Voyager killed Janeway 2.0

Actually, TNG killed the entire Enterprise crew several times in a few episodes involving time loops. As well as killing Picard's future self in one of those time loop episodes. "All Good Thing" as both the Past and the Future Enterprises blow up as well. And there have been whole planets killed off or mutated during Trek as well. Borg destroyed planets or assimilated them.


Didn't Voyager also kill off a whole crew of dopplegangers at one point?


vrax: [i47.tinypic.com image 397x300] [i49.tinypic.com image 400x300]


A miniseries even Bradbury described as boring?
 
2013-02-23 12:26:57 AM  

ristst: FirstNationalBastard: ristst: Wonder how RF's DS9 pay compared to his B5 salary?  My guess is it was probably better on DS9.  Plus DS9 was on a major network, which would potentially lead to him getting more work.

Uh... DS9 was on the same "major network" as Babylon 5... meaning it was a syndicated show.

Hell, B5 was actually on a network when it went to TNT. DS9 was a syndicated show until the end.

/Voyager and Enterprise were the shows on UPN... but you can't really call that a major network.

I stand corrected.  But I'd still wager that DS9's production had somewhat deeper pockets that B5's, and most likely a broader fan base.  But a lot of that was due to B5's schedule bouncing around so much during the PTEN days.  Geez, at one point it aired at 1:00AM on Sunday nite!  Got good use of the ol' VCR back then....


A sort of CSB..

The local PTEN announcer in St. Louis, when announcing Babylon 5 in the first season, was just saying "And now, bad hair and all, it's Babylon 5!"  Not very respectful.

Well, once I complained about that on the Usenet B5 forum.  I never noticed a reply online... but I never heard that phrase again.  The next time the show aired, the guy had a few paragraphs to read!
 
2013-02-23 12:31:03 AM  

tillerman35: Giving Flounder a major role and the involvement of Bruce Boxleightner pretty much killed it for me.  Also the weird transylvanian accents that those space-vampire looking dudes had were pretty annoying.  Cool graphics for its time, though.

My vote goes to Space: 1999, with a nod to the Original Battlestar Gallactica (or more correctly stated, the ONLY Battlestar Gallactica).

/Off my lawn, you blasted kids!


Yeah, I liked the original BSG too.  And then I grew up.
 
2013-02-23 12:33:59 AM  

yves0010: madgonad: Zombie DJ: Teufelaffe: **SPOILER below**

Same as Babylon 5.

Yep.
TOS killed Kirk and Spock 1.0
TNG has only killed Tasha and Data
DS9 killed Jadzia (kinda) and Sisko (kinda)
Voyager killed Janeway 2.0

Actually, TNG killed the entire Enterprise crew several times in a few episodes involving time loops. As well as killing Picard's future self in one of those time loop episodes. "All Good Thing" as both the Past and the Future Enterprises blow up as well. And there have been whole planets killed off or mutated during Trek as well. Borg destroyed planets or assimilated them.


Blake's 7 killed everyone
 
2013-02-23 01:20:50 AM  

fusillade762: vrax: [i47.tinypic.com image 397x300] [i49.tinypic.com image 400x300]

A miniseries even Bradbury described as boring?


Hush, you!
 
2013-02-23 01:29:46 AM  
There is a huge lack of Romi from Andromeda in this thread....
 
2013-02-23 01:45:18 AM  

Mentat: Reading this thread, I feel like I'm being nibbled to death by ducks.


Speaking of ducks...
i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-23 02:49:28 AM  

Alphax: The local PTEN announcer in St. Louis, when announcing Babylon 5 in the first season, was just saying "And now, bad hair and all, it's Babylon 5!"  Not very respectful.


I can remember Mojo Nixon hosting "120 Minutes" on MTV. I guess they made him play a Cure song because he introduced it as "Here's the big ugly Cure!"
 
2013-02-23 05:13:17 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: Stile4aly: Well, that does it. Bought the complete series from WB. Good news is it's 75% off. Bad news is I have to tell the wife.

79%. With the movies and all 5 seasons, it's about $75. Not bad.


I couldn't find a complete set of Babylon 5 in the US, but the UK has one. With the exchange rate it comes out to about $90 but has all the movies and associated series so it's a pretty good deal.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Babylon-Complete-Collection-Lost-Tales/dp/B0 00 WDSRG4
 
2013-02-23 05:47:23 AM  

cman: Oh HELL no

DS9 was greater than all other Treks plus Babylon 5 combined.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
2013-02-23 05:47:38 AM  

fusillade762: Always think of 1999 and UFO together for some reason.


BEcasue they were both Gerry "Thunderbirds" Anderson shows.
 
2013-02-23 05:48:16 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Ahem.

Babylon 5's a big pile of shiate!
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/hot


GET OUT!

Yay!

/ Came here for Tim Bisley
// leaving satisfied
 
2013-02-23 05:52:59 AM  
DS9 was uneven.  One episode the death toll from the Dominion War is an unbearable burden.. the next, it's off to Risa on vacation.
 
2013-02-23 06:04:07 AM  

inert: [i.imgur.com image 320x240]

Now hang your head in shame and slowly walk away subby.


Movie version doesn't get enough love, and is better than the fanboys who trashed it.  There, I said it.

/I'll watch the movie version again and again
//It's too bad there won't be sequels :(
 
2013-02-23 06:09:30 AM  

Surly U. Jest: [upload.wikimedia.org image 500x280]


Indeed.
 
2013-02-23 06:19:02 AM  

Lexx: Surly U. Jest: [upload.wikimedia.org image 500x280]

I think B5 predates SG.  And B5 had a far, far overall plot arc, though I I really did enjoy the actors in SG.


The arc of the Jafar people from the Movie itself to Stargate Atlantis was the most important background arc of the entire series. The Jafar people becoming an independent people again is what allows for the fight against the Ori and any other wannabe gods to succeed.

/off topic: how were the Trill able to avoid the trap the majority of the Go'auld species found themselves in in regards to their hosts?
//Is Trill more 'natural'... or Go'auld?
 
2013-02-23 06:28:47 AM  

soopey: [earthprime.com image 800x600]

Wasn't so bad. There. I said it. At least for the first 2 seasons. Everything after Arturo being killed sucks.


Our Arturo wasn't killed. He's still on Azure Gate Bridge world... unless one of the other alternative versions of the gang showed up to pick him up and take him along.

/ What happened to our Arturo was sad poetic justice for what our Arturo originally tried to do to Quinn
//I wanted to hate Colin, but I ended up loving him
///Kari Wuhrer is beautiful but the show ended when she was introduced
////Mallory and the black chick were not main character worthy. That's the writers fault.. which makes it Sci-Fi Syfy's Sci-Fi's fault for interfering
 
2013-02-23 06:30:46 AM  
Shout-out to Remmy for busting the network's balls in order to get the Real Wade back on the show instead of using a cheaper voice actress.
 
2013-02-23 06:47:13 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: Recommended for Season 1

- "The War Prayer", Danica McKellar and Londo's best quote about dancing
- "Believers", only shows like "Walking Dead" and "Breaking Bad" would 'go there'
- "Chrysalis", the season finale,


The ending of 'Believers' hurt my soul.  But I understood why the parents did it, and also why Dr. Steven was wrong.
 
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