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2013-02-22 12:26:50 PM
For me B5 will always be the king of SciFi TV.  There are other greats but B5 hands down.

I wish Netflix would pick Farscape back up.  I never did watch its original airing regularly but enjoyed it.  Found it a few months back and they pull it after I get to 1:3.... Bah.
 
2013-02-22 12:28:58 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: KatjaMouse: I honestly hated Babylon 5. I watched the entire first season last year and could not bring myself to watch the rest. I kept hoping "Maybe it'll get better with the next episode..." and it never did. So I didn't get the appeal for the show, unfortunately.

My struggles with B5 are known on various threads over the past few weeks, but I've had the same experience.  I will continue saying the same thing: SF fans are so used to getting shiat on that they now expect it and then ask for more.  Even the most diehard B5 fans will say stuff like: "It was the greatest show ever.  I mean, season 1 and 5 sucked, but 2, 3, and 4 totally rocked!"  In other words, about 40% of the episodes are acknowledged by fans are being pretty crappy.  This somehow makes it a great show.

\heard the same argument for pretty much every other SF show
\\SFX reviewed the Blu-Ray for season 2 of Star Trek: TNG, and said that you should get it because it had three or four high quality episodes on there
\\\that's a hundred bucks or more for about three hours of quality SF


This is pretty much how I feel. Saying "B5 is the greatest Sci Fi show of all time" is just pointing out the low quality of TV Sci Fi.
 
2013-02-22 12:30:35 PM

Norfolking Chance: As i said on the DS9 thread at its best B5 is better than DS9 and at its worst B5 is worse than DS9.

Passing through gethsemane just pips far beyond the stars and and the rock cried out is just a bit better than in the pale moonlight.

Either way Mollari, Dukat, G'Kar and Garrick will live on much longer than Sheridan, Sisko, Kira and Ivanova.


DS9 fails in my mind because I couldn't stop laughing out loud during the Big Dramatic war scenes when spectacularly inept dialogue came from the mouths of the main characters because of writers who didn't give a second's thought to what actual space warfare might be like, or hell, even had a decent grasp of naval warfare.

Everytime I happen to see the episode with the big fleet battle where  Sisco goes on about breaking the enemy's LINES I die a little inside that sucha  great actor is being used so poorly.

JMS was MUCH better at that stuff, and "Severed Dreams" was an utterly amazing example of what the "war " season of DS9 SHOULD have been like with competent writers

and I will fight anyone who thinks that "confessions and lamentations" isn't some of the best farking writing in TV SF since Harlan Ellison's "City on the edge of Forever"
 
2013-02-22 12:31:44 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: KatjaMouse: I honestly hated Babylon 5. I watched the entire first season last year and could not bring myself to watch the rest. I kept hoping "Maybe it'll get better with the next episode..." and it never did. So I didn't get the appeal for the show, unfortunately.

My struggles with B5 are known on various threads over the past few weeks, but I've had the same experience.  I will continue saying the same thing: SF fans are so used to getting shiat on that they now expect it and then ask for more.  Even the most diehard B5 fans will say stuff like: "It was the greatest show ever.  I mean, season 1 and 5 sucked, but 2, 3, and 4 totally rocked!"  In other words, about 40% of the episodes are acknowledged by fans are being pretty crappy.  This somehow makes it a great show.

\heard the same argument for pretty much every other SF show
\\SFX reviewed the Blu-Ray for season 2 of Star Trek: TNG, and said that you should get it because it had three or four high quality episodes on there
\\\that's a hundred bucks or more for about three hours of quality SF


B5 has a higher hit to miss ratio than most other Science Fiction, especially when taken in the context of its time.  And I would disagree with the notion "Seasons 1 and 5 suck."  They are less successful than seasons 2 - 4, but there are fantastic episodes in those seasons and they shouldn't just be written off.  Even the so-called garbage episodes have redeeming elements.  TKO, considered one of the worst episodes in the series, has a beautiful B story about Ivanova sitting shiva for her father.
 
2013-02-22 12:33:54 PM
whizbangthedirtfarmer: Cyno01: Richard Sauce: PIP_the_TROLL: I'll back  you a long way on B5 - it was a really good show. I think DS9 just edges it out though.

Besides, everybody knows what the best scifi show of all time is:

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I agree that DS9 is killer. I need to watch B5 now to confirm DS9's superiority.

I tried rrrrrreally hard to like Farscape but it was so hit/miss. Never established consistently quality episodes.

The first season is pretty rough, but once they introduce Scorpius and Harvey its all pretty great with a handful of exceptions.

I have to say that, and I just started watching Farscape for the first time, that the first dozen episodes were pretty brutal.  And then they somehow just took off a few episodes before Chianna arrived.  The quality has been pretty consistent after that.

\still not really liking Chianna at all

She gets better - just wait for the redhead.


You should really be more specific. Jool was always annoying as a pampered screamer. Sikozu was a much more capable character, though she rapidly went downhill for her blind obedience to Scorpius.
But you're right, the series is pretty consistently good after about the first half of season one.
 
2013-02-22 12:35:05 PM
nicksaganprojects.com
 
2013-02-22 12:35:30 PM

WorkingInParadise: 20 years? You kids get off my lawn! The greatest sci-fi program ever was...

[thewickedwriters.files.wordpress.com image 435x580]

Salvage 1, featuring Matlock... I mean, Andy Griffith!


Wow, that just sparked a memory I didn't know I had. I need to investigate that show further to see what in the world I was watching way back when.
 
2013-02-22 12:37:06 PM
War of the Worlds (1938).

Now get off Orson Welles' lawn.

/John Houseman produced that broadcast.
 
2013-02-22 12:40:12 PM
Still wondering if they ever got home.
www.mediacollectibles.com
 
2013-02-22 12:40:15 PM

Omnivorous: War of the Worlds (1938).

Now get off Orson Welles' lawn.

/John Houseman produced that broadcast.


I downloaded that radio show and I never looked back. I love it and listen to it often. That show gives me the creeps some times. Just how it was done.
 
2013-02-22 12:42:35 PM
Recommended for Season 1

- "The War Prayer", Danica McKellar and Londo's best quote about dancing
- "Believers", only shows like "Walking Dead" and "Breaking Bad" would 'go there'
- "Chrysalis", the season finale,
 
2013-02-22 12:43:07 PM

Wellon Dowd: Quark debuted over 35 years ago.

[i.imgur.com image 720x544]


I LOVED THAT RIDICULOUS SHOW!
 
2013-02-22 12:46:11 PM

Stile4aly: whizbangthedirtfarmer: KatjaMouse: I honestly hated Babylon 5. I watched the entire first season last year and could not bring myself to watch the rest. I kept hoping "Maybe it'll get better with the next episode..." and it never did. So I didn't get the appeal for the show, unfortunately.

My struggles with B5 are known on various threads over the past few weeks, but I've had the same experience.  I will continue saying the same thing: SF fans are so used to getting shiat on that they now expect it and then ask for more.  Even the most diehard B5 fans will say stuff like: "It was the greatest show ever.  I mean, season 1 and 5 sucked, but 2, 3, and 4 totally rocked!"  In other words, about 40% of the episodes are acknowledged by fans are being pretty crappy.  This somehow makes it a great show.

\heard the same argument for pretty much every other SF show
\\SFX reviewed the Blu-Ray for season 2 of Star Trek: TNG, and said that you should get it because it had three or four high quality episodes on there
\\\that's a hundred bucks or more for about three hours of quality SF

B5 has a higher hit to miss ratio than most other Science Fiction, especially when taken in the context of its time.  And I would disagree with the notion "Seasons 1 and 5 suck."  They are less successful than seasons 2 - 4, but there are fantastic episodes in those seasons and they shouldn't just be written off.  Even the so-called garbage episodes have redeeming elements.  TKO, considered one of the worst episodes in the series, has a beautiful B story about Ivanova sitting shiva for her father.


The best part, imo, about that plot was when the Rabbi was leaving and she remembered her last conversation with her dad, then she shouts out "Uncle Yashi or something like that" and that made me realize that I really needed to dust my house.
 
2013-02-22 12:46:54 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Recommended for Season 1

- "The War Prayer", Danica McKellar and Londo's best quote about dancing
- "Believers", only shows like "Walking Dead" and "Breaking Bad" would 'go there'
- "Chrysalis", the season finale,


Can't miss 'Signs and Portents', our first indication that some serious shiat is up.
 
2013-02-22 12:52:22 PM

CarnySaur: Still wondering if they ever got home.
[www.mediacollectibles.com image 600x600]


Holy crap...wasn't that the show with an episode where they ended up in a female dominated world and the only job the dad could get was waxing the fruit at the grocery store?
 
2013-02-22 12:56:48 PM

jonathan_L: OtherLittleGuy: Recommended for Season 1

- "The War Prayer", Danica McKellar and Londo's best quote about dancing
- "Believers", only shows like "Walking Dead" and "Breaking Bad" would 'go there'
- "Chrysalis", the season finale,

Can't miss 'Signs and Portents', our first indication that some serious shiat is up.


What do you want?
 
2013-02-22 12:59:24 PM
Awesome Troll Headline +10
 
2013-02-22 12:59:29 PM

Saiga410: For me B5 will always be the king of SciFi TV.  There are other greats but B5 hands down.

I wish Netflix would pick Farscape back up.  I never did watch its original airing regularly but enjoyed it.  Found it a few months back and they pull it after I get to 1:3.... Bah.


Biggest complaint I had with Netflix was they had the whole series, EXCEPT the 2 hour finale.
 
2013-02-22 12:59:39 PM

CarnySaur: Still wondering if they ever got home.
[www.mediacollectibles.com image 600x600]


Is that Greg Brady and the kid that sees dead people?
 
2013-02-22 01:02:55 PM

KingKauff: jonathan_L: OtherLittleGuy: Recommended for Season 1

- "The War Prayer", Danica McKellar and Londo's best quote about dancing
- "Believers", only shows like "Walking Dead" and "Breaking Bad" would 'go there'
- "Chrysalis", the season finale,

Can't miss 'Signs and Portents', our first indication that some serious shiat is up.

What do you want?


I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price. I would look up at your lifeless eyes and wave like this.  Can you and your associates arrange this for me, Mr. Morden?
 
2013-02-22 01:04:57 PM

StrikitRich: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 400x278][u1.ipernity.com image 352x240][www.tcon.ca image 420x250]

Then again, how could you leave out the Amish is Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace?


Came for this. Thank you. Too bad they got off track from the original Ellison work it was based on.

WorkingInParadise: 20 years? You kids get off my lawn! The greatest sci-fi program ever was...

[thewickedwriters.files.wordpress.com image 435x580]

Salvage 1, featuring Matlock... I mean, Andy Griffith!


NO. Even as a 10 year old the premise of this show was too much to swallow. Plus it's not really science fiction. They just flew their space ship, made out of a salvaged tanker truck and cement mixer (no, I'm not making that up), and recovered space junk occasionally.
 
2013-02-22 01:07:48 PM

tricycleracer: vudukungfu: Firefly isn't that old

 
2013-02-22 01:08:23 PM

Awesome to see "The Starlost" referenced here.  Created by none other than Cordwainer Bird!  Only the early 70's tech, writer's strike, terribly reused set pieces and horrific acting ruined it.  But to this day, I still say "Can I help you? May I be of some assistance?"


B5 stunk but I couldn't make it past season 1.

Just started watching Farscape, finding it much better.

 
2013-02-22 01:10:43 PM
when i got home from school in the mid 70's i loved ultraman...channel 20 washington DC with 'Captain 20'.
 
2013-02-22 01:17:15 PM

jonathan_L: OtherLittleGuy: Recommended for Season 1

- "The War Prayer", Danica McKellar and Londo's best quote about dancing
- "Believers", only shows like "Walking Dead" and "Breaking Bad" would 'go there'
- "Chrysalis", the season finale,

Can't miss 'Signs and Portents', our first indication that some serious shiat is up.


You've got to throw in Soul Hunter, Parliament of Dreams, Mind War, By Any Means Necessary, Babylon Squared, and The Quality of Mercy.  There are probably 5 or 6 others, but these are the cream of the crop.
 
2013-02-22 01:17:16 PM
I didn't realize that The Great Space Coaster anniversary was today!
 
2013-02-22 01:18:43 PM
25.media.tumblr.comI
t's been 20 years, eh?
 
2013-02-22 01:23:37 PM

yves0010: Click Click D'oh: clkeagle:B5 is what brought the simple concepts of story arcs and character development to genre television.

1982 would like a word with you:

[galacticwatercooler.com image 450x369]

Good old Robotech.. I mean Macross.


Shhhhhh!
 
2013-02-22 01:25:12 PM
What? No Space Above and Beyond?
 
2013-02-22 01:26:32 PM

Stile4aly: B5 has a higher hit to miss ratio than most other Science Fiction, especially when taken in the context of its time.  And I would disagree with the notion "Seasons 1 and 5 suck."  They are less successful than seasons 2 - 4, but there are fantastic episodes in those seasons and they shouldn't just be written off.  Even the so-called garbage episodes have redeeming elements.  TKO, considered one of the worst episodes in the series, has a beautiful B story about Ivanova sitting shiva for her father.


Season one gets a bad rap because it spends so much time introducing the galaxy as it is, developing a rather large cast, and setting up most of the events that happen in the following seasons. An episode like Infection or Mind War introduces ideas that aren't dealt with for the rest of the season, but then it becomes important later in the series. Other stand-alones, like Believers, are often overlooked.

Season five was post-arc due to the compression JMS had in rushing to an end for season 4, but was granted the fifth season anyway. The telepath arc in S5 was a little rough at times, but good. Two stand-alones - Day of the Dead and View from the Gallery were really good. And it kind of sucked to lose Ivanova.

But seriously, no show has done physics and science as well as B5. From red/blue shifts when jumping, use of beam/projectile weapons in combat, and using real physics in flight and on the station. Even little things like the in-station fighting in Severed Dreams. Garibaldi in security wants to use a choke point to contain a boarding enemy, but the Narn's choose to take more severe losses to break the invader's position and stop them immediately. DS9 handled a similar situation by having Federation troops fighting Klingons with Batliths - which was plain old stupid. B5 just felt like something that could happen while ST remains space fantasy.

Oh, and never forget that B5 never glossed over the human losses in war.
 
2013-02-22 01:27:53 PM

Stile4aly: You've got to throw in Soul Hunter, Parliament of Dreams, Mind War, By Any Means Necessary, Babylon Squared, and The Quality of Mercy.  There are probably 5 or 6 others, but these are the cream of the crop.


Love B^2, and the fact that it's followed up so well (albeit somewhat confusingly) in season 3 with the two parter is the clincher for me.

Not a huge fan of "By Any Means...", Parliament of Dreams is a kick - especially Londo passing out drunk in his ceremony.

"Everybody's cute! But in purple, I am stunning!" <thud>
 
2013-02-22 01:28:00 PM
True story time,

I'm working in our comic shop (about 4 months before Tron 2 comes out) and this guy comes over and says, "You don't have much in the way of babylon 5 stuff I see."
I knew before I even looked up that it was Bruce Boxleitner . He just has that great voice.
His wife was doing a play in town and he stopped by to look around. We talked for a good 15 minutes about the show and everything. Really nice guy.

Babylon 5 was the reason I didn't watch DS9. I couldn't get into a "jr. edition" of something. I knew no matter what happened, Star Trek would usually hit the reset button at the end of the show, while B5 wasn't afraid to kill characters off.
Also, the end, the last episode, with Claudia Christians voice over, showing Garibaldi as a family man....that left me in tears.
 
2013-02-22 01:29:21 PM

KingKauff: jonathan_L: OtherLittleGuy: Recommended for Season 1

- "The War Prayer", Danica McKellar and Londo's best quote about dancing
- "Believers", only shows like "Walking Dead" and "Breaking Bad" would 'go there'
- "Chrysalis", the season finale,

Can't miss 'Signs and Portents', our first indication that some serious shiat is up.

What do you want?


Who are you?
 
2013-02-22 01:32:17 PM
Yes, but what would Romeo and Juliet be like in the smartphone age?
 
2013-02-22 01:33:14 PM

Zombie DJ: Star Trek would usually hit the reset button at the end of the show, while B5 wasn't afraid to kill characters off.


DS9 actually killed off a few characters by the end of the run.  In many ways DS9 was a pretty huge departure from "standard" Star Trek shows.
 
2013-02-22 01:33:28 PM

Tanukis_Parachute: when i got home from school in the mid 70's i loved ultraman...channel 20 washington DC with 'Captain 20'.


I've got the entire original series on DVD.  I was hesitant to watch it, to be honest, because I thought it would be stupid.  But if you watch it in Japanese with the subtitles, it holds up very, very well (special effects notwithstanding).
 
2013-02-22 01:33:30 PM

jonathan_L: OtherLittleGuy: Recommended for Season 1

- "The War Prayer", Danica McKellar and Londo's best quote about dancing
- "Believers", only shows like "Walking Dead" and "Breaking Bad" would 'go there'
- "Chrysalis", the season finale,

Can't miss 'Signs and Portents', our first indication that some serious shiat is up.


"And the Sky Full of Stars" is my favorite from season 1

THEN WHY DID THEY SURRENDER!?!
 
2013-02-22 01:34:14 PM

madgonad: Stile4aly: B5 has a higher hit to miss ratio than most other Science Fiction, especially when taken in the context of its time.  And I would disagree with the notion "Seasons 1 and 5 suck."  They are less successful than seasons 2 - 4, but there are fantastic episodes in those seasons and they shouldn't just be written off.  Even the so-called garbage episodes have redeeming elements.  TKO, considered one of the worst episodes in the series, has a beautiful B story about Ivanova sitting shiva for her father.

Season one gets a bad rap because it spends so much time introducing the galaxy as it is, developing a rather large cast, and setting up most of the events that happen in the following seasons. An episode like Infection or Mind War introduces ideas that aren't dealt with for the rest of the season, but then it becomes important later in the series. Other stand-alones, like Believers, are often overlooked.

Season five was post-arc due to the compression JMS had in rushing to an end for season 4, but was granted the fifth season anyway. The telepath arc in S5 was a little rough at times, but good. Two stand-alones - Day of the Dead and View from the Gallery were really good. And it kind of sucked to lose Ivanova.

But seriously, no show has done physics and science as well as B5. From red/blue shifts when jumping, use of beam/projectile weapons in combat, and using real physics in flight and on the station. Even little things like the in-station fighting in Severed Dreams. Garibaldi in security wants to use a choke point to contain a boarding enemy, but the Narn's choose to take more severe losses to break the invader's position and stop them immediately. DS9 handled a similar situation by having Federation troops fighting Klingons with Batliths - which was plain old stupid. B5 just felt like something that could happen while ST remains space fantasy.

Oh, and never forget that B5 never glossed over the human losses in war.


"Gropos" was a damned fine episode for precisely that reason, like many of the series best (like say "Intersections in Real Time"  it could almost have worked as a stand-alone play
 
2013-02-22 01:39:08 PM

Magorn: Norfolking Chance: As i said on the DS9 thread at its best B5 is better than DS9 and at its worst B5 is worse than DS9.

Passing through gethsemane just pips far beyond the stars and and the rock cried out is just a bit better than in the pale moonlight.

Either way Mollari, Dukat, G'Kar and Garrick will live on much longer than Sheridan, Sisko, Kira and Ivanova.

DS9 fails in my mind because I couldn't stop laughing out loud during the Big Dramatic war scenes when spectacularly inept dialogue came from the mouths of the main characters because of writers who didn't give a second's thought to what actual space warfare might be like, or hell, even had a decent grasp of naval warfare.

Everytime I happen to see the episode with the big fleet battle where  Sisco goes on about breaking the enemy's LINES I die a little inside that sucha  great actor is being used so poorly.

JMS was MUCH better at that stuff, and "Severed Dreams" was an utterly amazing example of what the "war " season of DS9 SHOULD have been like with competent writers

and I will fight anyone who thinks that "confessions and lamentations" isn't some of the best farking writing in TV SF since Harlan Ellison's "City on the edge of Forever"


You win the thread.
 
2013-02-22 01:39:34 PM
We all know this was the best Sci Fi show of all time.

portal.mytischi.net

/obscure?
 
2013-02-22 01:42:27 PM

Hyatus: [25.media.tumblr.com image 500x342]I
t's been 20 years, eh?


blog.zap2it.com
Everyone knows a beaver's favorite food is wood. I just hope we brought along enough of it for our three day galactic space journey... So let's do the math! If Robin's beaver devours six inches of wood every half hour and Jessica's beaver devours eight inches of wood every 45 minutes, how much wood will I need to keep both of these beavers well fed all weekend long?
 
2013-02-22 01:42:29 PM
Eh, B5 was ok, but maybe it's because I didn't watch it when it originally aired, but the effects were freaking horrid, bad enough to end up taking me out of the story.

My favorite has always been SG-1. It was a balanced show, it had it's dramatic moments and it's comedic moments, something most modern sci-fi shows are lacking. (Yes I know Lexx had both, but that shiat was so ridiculous it wasn't even funny)

Farscape follows right behind that, for much the same reasons. Good mix of serious and funny, and the characters had great chemistry. I wasn't a fan of some of the characters (I'm looking at you Sikozu, Chianna, and Stark) but they made it work. Sad that some of the characters were acted so poorly (Crais, numerous aliens) or written poorly (Zhan after she lost her faith).

Trek, all it's variations have their moments. Suffice it to say they remain one of the greats.

Firefly had it's potential, but it's gone now. Good stuff while it lasted.

BSG was great, but God as an active character never sat well with me.
 
2013-02-22 01:43:37 PM
That one lady's weird skin-crown thingy always bugged me. Did it grow up over her hair (like just resting on her hair , but attached at the temples), or just pop straight up out of her head? If straight up out of her noggin'... her hair wouldn't lay/grow like that.

It's just stupid the other way.

DS9 was way better anyways
 
2013-02-22 01:43:56 PM
This only lasted like 5 minutes, but I kind of always wanted to see where it was going to go.

www.episodeguide.ussciwiki.scifiontv.com
 
2013-02-22 01:43:58 PM

Stile4aly: jonathan_L: OtherLittleGuy: Recommended for Season 1

- "The War Prayer", Danica McKellar and Londo's best quote about dancing
- "Believers", only shows like "Walking Dead" and "Breaking Bad" would 'go there'
- "Chrysalis", the season finale,

Can't miss 'Signs and Portents', our first indication that some serious shiat is up.

You've got to throw in Soul Hunter, Parliament of Dreams, Mind War, By Any Means Necessary, Babylon Squared, and The Quality of Mercy.  There are probably 5 or 6 others, but these are the cream of the crop.


Bears repeating.  The B plot kind of sucked, but the main storyline worked really well, especially in the overall scheme of how things were going on Earth.  While not all that great, I thought Survivors was interesting in hindsight.  When the coup took place, I wonder what happened to what's-her-name, the president's security chief.  I doubt she survived, but Garibaldi never mentioned it either way.  Missed opportunity.
 
2013-02-22 01:44:01 PM

Zombie DJ: True story time,

I'm working in our comic shop (about 4 months before Tron 2 comes out) and this guy comes over and says, "You don't have much in the way of babylon 5 stuff I see."
I knew before I even looked up that it was Bruce Boxleitner . He just has that great voice.
His wife was doing a play in town and he stopped by to look around. We talked for a good 15 minutes about the show and everything. Really nice guy.

Babylon 5 was the reason I didn't watch DS9. I couldn't get into a "jr. edition" of something. I knew no matter what happened, Star Trek would usually hit the reset button at the end of the show, while B5 wasn't afraid to kill characters off.
Also, the end, the last episode, with Claudia Christians voice over, showing Garibaldi as a family man....that left me in tears.


What an overweight comic book retailer and Bruce Boxleitner might look like.
i81.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-22 01:44:19 PM
Hey guys, what's going on in this thread?

raptorsclaw.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-22 01:44:48 PM

CarnySaur: Still wondering if they ever got home.
[www.mediacollectibles.com image 600x600]


I was in love with the teenage daughter with the huge, er, tracks of land.
 
2013-02-22 01:47:22 PM

flaminio: Hey guys, what's going on in this thread?

[raptorsclaw.files.wordpress.com image 500x585]


You know, I always wanted to watch that one but never got the chance. It was apparently on when I was stationed overseas, and netflix doesn't seem to have it last I checked. Hoping that when I do get the chance to watch it I won't blow it off as "Hercules in space"
 
2013-02-22 01:49:05 PM
You know as good as  BSG was for the most part, why can't they reboot Star Blazers?  That'd be a fun series.
 
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