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(New Jersey 101.5) Video Want to see what happens inside a commuter bus that hits a school bus? Of course you do   (nj1015.com) divider line 26
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2013-02-22 08:19:32 AM
Was the commuter bus driving in the emergency lane?
 
2013-02-22 08:26:10 AM

BiffDangler: Was the commuter bus driving in the emergency lane?


I think that is a bus lane. My question is why wasn't the school bus also using it?
Not enough info from just that video snippet.  I didn't notice if the school bus had its signal on either.
 
2013-02-22 09:05:58 AM

BiffDangler: Was the commuter bus driving in the emergency lane?


It's a bus lane during rush hour too. That starts at 3:30 I think, depending on the town.

You can see the Bus Only paint on the ground.
 
2013-02-22 09:15:26 AM

genepool lifeboat: BiffDangler: Was the commuter bus driving in the emergency lane?

I think that is a bus lane. _My question is why wasn't the school bus also using it?_
Not enough info from just that video snippet.  I didn't notice if the school bus had its signal on either.


This. It was the school bus driver's fault he didn't even use his blinkers.  A good driver would have wondered why the school bus was near stopped tho.

Those people being interviewed are morans.
 
2013-02-22 09:16:01 AM
So the school bus driver turns inftont of a municipal bus (traveling in the designated bus lane) without signaling or checking her mirrors, and the municipal driver gets citations for unsafe driving? Is there ANY justification for that other than "ohmygodforthechildrenz!"?
 
2013-02-22 10:01:21 AM
even if the school bus signaled he had to cross a lane of traffic
if he had checked his mirror he would have seen the other bus
he should get the ticket
 
2013-02-22 10:07:01 AM
Clicked the link expecting to see a computer bus crash into a school bus. Coffee.
 
2013-02-22 10:16:09 AM
School bus didn't use a blinker.  Other bus looked to be hauling ass.
 
2013-02-22 10:20:56 AM
Having driven or commuted via bus many times on that road over the last decade:

Shoulder is a bus lane during rush hours (northbound in AM, southbound in PM) in that one town.
Signs state that right turns are permitted from shoulder at all times.
A lot of drivers on  Route 9 don't understand the concept of pulling onto the shoulder to turn right, even if the white solid line angles right to indicate that you should exit via the shoulder. My development also exits onto 9, the shoulder is a little bit wider before the one street that exits onto 9. Additionally there is an elementary school in my development and as I leave for work just after the bus comes for my daughter (I drive to work now) I see the school buses from other parts of town decelerating on the shoulder before turning right.
There are many "left lane dicks" on 9 who go below the speed limit resulting in many passing on the right
News 12 said the video showed the Academy bus driver was going 50, 5 MPH before the speed limit.

My "guess" is that the school bus driver forgot that the 139 et al run on the shoulder during the rush but was still a jerk for turning right from the 55 MPH right lane instead of using the shoulder to decelerate. I don't understand what the definition of bus has to do with the school bus driver screwing up.

/loathe that I am defending the Academy driver
 
2013-02-22 10:29:18 AM
Bus-only lanes are a hazard. That is all.
 
2013-02-22 12:06:21 PM

damageddude: Having driven or commuted via bus many times on that road over the last decade:


A lot of drivers on  Route 9 don't understand the concept of pulling onto the shoulder to turn right, even if the white solid line angles right to indicate that you should exit via the shoulder.



Um, you can say that about Routes 1, 3, 4, 10, 17, 23, 34, 35, 46, 70, 73....
 
2013-02-22 01:10:15 PM
Hmm, looks like amateur hour.

People who are turning right who dont GET RIGHT and people who are turning left who dont GET LEFT are just the giant Monkey Wrenches in the cogs of traffic everywhere.
 
2013-02-22 01:39:22 PM

Revek: School bus didn't use a blinker.  Other bus looked to be hauling ass.


I can clearly see that the school bus had the DO NOT PASS red blinking lights, but I always thought that they only came on when the bus is completely stopped.....
 
2013-02-22 02:02:34 PM
While both drivers share some of the blame I think the ultimate fault lies in whoever thought it would be a good idea to make a road where people need to make a right turn from the second lane of traffic across a lane potentially going straight. That's just f***ing retarded.

/also I am amazed that the school bus driver was not held accountable in any way
 
2013-02-22 05:49:42 PM

lewismarktwo: Those people being interviewed are morans.

 
2013-02-22 06:28:08 PM

LoneVVolf: So the school bus driver turns inftont of a municipal bus (traveling in the designated bus lane) without signaling or checking her mirrors, and the municipal driver gets citations for unsafe driving? Is there ANY justification for that other than "ohmygodforthechildrenz!"?


That seems to be what drives most of the legislation in this country nowadays.
 
2013-02-22 07:07:09 PM

Zombalupagus: I think the ultimate fault lies in whoever thought it would be a good idea to make a road where people need to make a right turn from the second lane of traffic across a lane potentially going straight.


They don't.  They're not supposed to:

damageddude: Signs state that right turns are permitted from shoulder at all times.
A lot of drivers on Route 9 don't understand the concept of pulling onto the shoulder to turn right, even if the white solid line angles right to indicate that you should exit via the shoulder.


The school bus driver was to blame for not staying in the shoulder lane.  It was legal for him to do so, and had he done so there would have been no problem.  By pulling into the right lane, he was indicating to traffic behind him that he was not going to turn right at the next intersection.  Look at the video again: the school bus turns from the right lane directly into the driveway without using the shoulder, at a time when it is legal to use the shoulder.  The school bus driver is to blame, and is a farking idiot besides.

The commuter bus driver screamed before he hit the school bus.  How very un-Russian.  If you have time to scream before impact, you're not doing your job properly.
 
2013-02-22 10:25:24 PM

evilsofa: The commuter bus driver screamed before he hit the school bus. How very un-Russian. If you have time to scream before impact, you're not doing your job properly.


He also sort of flailed around like some wacky offspring of Beaker and the Swedish chef.
 
2013-02-22 11:21:17 PM
Watch Video: School bus is clearly at fault. Not driving in the bus lane, Did not signal before turning.

Listen To News Report: ZOMG!!! Commuter bus driver totally should be strung up by his balls. WHAT IF THERE WERE KIDS ON THE SCHOOL BUS!?!?!?!?!???!?!?
 
2013-02-23 07:23:52 AM
I think we should start and email campaign to make it known that we think the commuter driver wasn't at fault.  I don't really know how to go about doing such a thing tho.
 
2013-02-23 07:42:28 AM
I guess a lot people here don't seem to remember anything about defensive driving.

"Watch out for the other guy. Part of staying in control is being aware of other drivers and roadway users around you (and what they may suddenly do) so you're less likely to be caught off guard. For example, if a car speeds past you on the highway but there's not much space between the car and a slow-moving truck in the same lane, it's a pretty sure bet the driver will try to pull into your lane directly in front of you. Anticipating what another driver might do and making the appropriate adjustment helps reduce your risk."

"Do not depend on other drivers. Be considerate of others but look out for yourself. Do not assume another driver is going to move out of the way or allow you to merge. Assume that drivers will run through red lights or stop signs and be prepared to react. Plan your movements anticipating the worst-case scenario."

If the Commuter bus driver was really paying attention he would have noticed the school bus slowing down in relation to his own speed. If the vehicle in front of you slows down, even in the lane next to yours, why would you keep going without slowing down? What if there is a pedestrian or perhaps they are making an illegal turn. That is why the commuter bus driver got the citation. The school bus drive should have gotten a citation as well, but because the commuter bus was behind the school bus, the onus is on the commuter driver.

LoneVVolf: So the school bus driver turns inftont of a municipal bus (traveling in the designated bus lane) without signaling or checking her mirrors, and the municipal driver gets citations for unsafe driving? Is there ANY justification for that other than "ohmygodforthechildrenz!"?

 
2013-02-23 07:50:43 AM

Ghastly: Watch Video: School bus is clearly at fault. Not driving in the bus lane, Did not signal before turning.

Listen To News Report: ZOMG!!! Commuter bus driver totally should be strung up by his balls. WHAT IF THERE WERE KIDS ON THE SCHOOL BUS!?!?!?!?!???!?!?


Then the school bus should have been a bit lot more careful.

/Highway 9 sucks
 
2013-02-23 08:16:53 AM

evilsofa: The school bus driver was to blame for not staying in the shoulder lane.  It was legal for him to do so, and had he done so there would have been no problem.  By pulling into the right lane, he was indicating to traffic behind him that he was not going to turn right at the next intersection.  Look at the video again: the school bus turns from the right lane directly into the driveway without using the shoulder, at a time when it is legal to use the shoulder.  The school bus driver is to blame, and is a farking idiot besides.


I agree completely.  The guy turned across multiple lanes and didn't (appear to) signal.  It looked to me like the school bus driver was in la-la land and almost forgot that he had to turn into the apartment complex, and when he remembered at the last second, he suddenly jumped across a lane of traffic to make it in.  At least, the bus driver's actions looked about the same as when I've seen other drivers nearly miss their highway exit, and decide to make a swerving-double-lane change rather than wait for the next exit.
 
2013-02-23 11:38:51 AM
If only the schoolbus had been equipped with some sort of signalling device to show his intent to turn... maybe an amber light on the back of the bus towards the side he was going to turn... one that flashes so it's more noticeable.

And if only the schoolbus had some device that the driver could use to see if there was traffic coming up behind him at speed.  A few simple mirrors to cover a full field of view of the back would have worked...

Oh, wait.  He had such things at his disposal and didn't use them...  idiot.

Clearly the schoolbus driver's fault.  Hopefully he's a bit wiser from nearly getting himself killed being reckless, and that there are no permanent injuries from this crash.
 
2013-02-23 01:33:41 PM

Zombalupagus: While both drivers share some of the blame I think the ultimate fault lies in whoever thought it would be a good idea to make a road where people need to make a right turn from the second lane of traffic across a lane potentially going straight. That's just f***ing retarded.

/also I am amazed that the school bus driver was not held accountable in any way


This.  Why the frak is there a lane for a bus going full speed on the right side of the road, when people still need to enter and exit side streets?  Thats just asking for trouble.
 
2013-02-24 07:23:10 PM
It does seem that the school bus is mainly to blame (although this also looks like a bad traffic design), but I don't understand how so many people are asserting that the school bus didn't have a turn signal on.  It's only visible for two frames, and turns signals do flash on and off.  It's blurry in the frames before, but it sort of looks like it could be on.  It's really hard to tell.
 
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