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(Uncrunched)   "A person with a gun and a government badge asked me to swear in writing that a lie was true today. And when I didn't do what she wanted, she simply took my boat and asked me to leave"   (uncrunched.com) divider line 471
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2013-02-22 10:54:48 PM  

animalmagnet: How about "We think you were going to use it to smuggle drugs." They keep your boat, and they don't have to prove anything.


That or magically find a kilo of weed. Or a seed. Or... No you are right. They don't even bother with that anymore. Suspicion.
 
2013-02-22 10:54:59 PM  

orclover: So in other words some douchebag has no idea how the world works?  I went into this story hoping to have sympathy for the victim, but honestly, he's a farking idiot.  She wasn't looking for a bribe, she wasnt willing to spend time or risk punishment for trying to correct a problem that was not her farking problem..

SHES PAID $9 A farkING HOUR AND DOES NOT GIVE A fark, she hands you something, you sign it, she moves on to her smoke break.  If you rich farking idiots cant figure that out, then you lose your farking boat you farking assholes.  Yes hire a lawyer,  get righteously indignant.  All you are doing is making that boat even more farking expensive.  I hope the farking thing sinks and you get eaten by some god damn sockeye.

/seriously fark this guy.



Leave my planet (or at least my country) NOW, asshole.  We do NOT need more of your kind.  You're the worst kind of scum on this planet.
 
2013-02-22 11:19:06 PM  

TOSViolation: orclover: So in other words some douchebag has no idea how the world works?  I went into this story hoping to have sympathy for the victim, but honestly, he's a farking idiot.  She wasn't looking for a bribe, she wasnt willing to spend time or risk punishment for trying to correct a problem that was not her farking problem..

SHES PAID $9 A farkING HOUR AND DOES NOT GIVE A fark, she hands you something, you sign it, she moves on to her smoke break.  If you rich farking idiots cant figure that out, then you lose your farking boat you farking assholes.  Yes hire a lawyer,  get righteously indignant.  All you are doing is making that boat even more farking expensive.  I hope the farking thing sinks and you get eaten by some god damn sockeye.

/seriously fark this guy.


Leave my planet (or at least my country) NOW, asshole.  We do NOT need more of your kind.  You're the worst kind of scum on this planet.


I always thought the worst kind was soap.
 
2013-02-22 11:22:31 PM  

ck1938: He voted for Obama. Piss on him.


I voted for Obama. I'd piss on you, unless you were on fire.
 
2013-02-23 12:23:45 AM  
Okay, remind me again, who's this Obama chick and is she hot?
 
2013-02-23 01:59:38 AM  
I suspect the dude is leaving out part of the story.
 
2013-02-23 02:11:39 AM  

Ace Rimmer: pedrop357: Ace Rimmer: A Customs agent with an axe to grind would have invited him to watch his boat being taken apart by a sawsall looking for drugs

Tricking him into signing a form that is going to spend the rest of its life disintegrating in a cardboard box would be pointless.

Not every abuse has to be a full bore, immediate one.

How does anyone know which forms will be filed in a cardboard box never to be seen again, and thus OK to fudge a few numbers on, versus a form that could be scrutinized for some reason years later?

It's a government form. That is its only reason for being ;-)

Someone mentioned up yonder that he should have gotten a customs broker. That is all they do is wander the labyrinthine entry process.

Other then that, it's a government form.

When you were filling out the form did you think you put the right number down?

When you signed it did you still think you had it all correct?

Did you answer yes to both of these questions?

Congratulations! You just beat the rap!

It's trivial. In fact, if you want to fault the officer, she should have just let him make his changes and be done with it.


Ahhh, I always knew there was something wrong with conservatives like you, and you just nailed it. No integrity, it's all about the ends justifying the means. He knew it was wrong, so no, if he wouldn't lie about it in the first place, he wouldn't lie about it if asked again.

I'm starting to think you'd be perfectly fine with bribery, as long as it made things go smoother for you.
 
2013-02-23 03:14:01 AM  
Did he believe he was filling it out correctly? Yes

Did he sign it believing it was filed out correctly? Yes

Was it accepted? Yes

Was there any mention of bribery until you showed up? No
 
2013-02-23 08:23:39 AM  

Ace Rimmer: untaken_name: Ace Rimmer: Any financial loss he is incurring now is completely of his own making.

So he made the rules? Interesting. You don't know what most words mean, do you? "Completely" is a pretty simple one. Look it up.

He is importing a boat.
There are rules about importing a boat.
One of those rules is he sign a form.
He refused to sign the form.

Completely of his own making.


One of the OTHER rules is that if you lie on a Federal form, you go to jail. His decision to buy a boat obviously caused that to be the case, right? No, wait, I know, he's responsible for putting incorrect and inaccurate information on the form, right? Oh, no, that wasn't him either. Interesting. I guess you're still just wrong.
 
2013-02-23 10:29:52 AM  
It occurs to me that perhaps she was actually in the right here.  Who prepared the form?  If it wasn't their mistake they can't fix it.
 
2013-02-23 11:54:44 AM  

untaken_name: Ace Rimmer: untaken_name: Ace Rimmer: Any financial loss he is incurring now is completely of his own making.

So he made the rules? Interesting. You don't know what most words mean, do you? "Completely" is a pretty simple one. Look it up.

He is importing a boat.
There are rules about importing a boat.
One of those rules is he sign a form.
He refused to sign the form.

Completely of his own making.

One of the OTHER rules is that if you lie on a Federal form, you go to jail. His decision to buy a boat obviously caused that to be the case, right? No, wait, I know, he's responsible for putting incorrect and inaccurate information on the form, right? Oh, no, that wasn't him either. Interesting. I guess you're still just wrong.


He didn't put wrong information on his form. He put down the value in Canadian dollars instead US dollars. His information was correct, accurate and clearly annotated.

Did he believe what he was writing on the form was the truth?

Did he still believe it was true when he signed it?

And I guess there in lies the problem. He brought it to the officers attention, commendable. The officer looked at it, looked at his paperwork, and declared that it was acceptable.

After he would have signed it, she would have signed it swearing to the exact same thing he did. If the big, bad, scary government is coming for any one it will be the GS-wage monkey.

The form has to be an uncorrected original. Why? Because it's Customs, it just does.

You can't sign them in red, that form has to be in triplicate, you can submit photo copies of that form but not this one...

Why? Because it's Customs.

He had it explained to him at least twice that his paper work was acceptable and he still refused to turn it in.

Completely.his.making
 
2013-02-23 12:25:58 PM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: ck1938: He voted for Obama. Piss on him.

I voted for Obama. I'd piss on you, unless you were on fire.


Don't be upset him, he can't help it: he drives an old Mitsubishi Eclipse,
 
2013-02-23 12:30:17 PM  

Bucky Katt: I suspect the dude is leaving out part of the story.


They ALWAYS do.
Every time, without fail, consistantly, and reliably.
 
2013-02-23 01:32:15 PM  

Ace Rimmer: He didn't put wrong information on his form. He put down the value in Canadian dollars instead US dollars. His information was correct, accurate and clearly annotated.


Um... "The primary form, prepared by the government, had an error. The price was copied from the invoice, but DHS changed the currency from Canadian to U.S. dollars."

The form was not filled out by him, but by Customs.

The price was not correct- the numbers were correct, but it was the wrong currency.
 
2013-02-23 01:59:50 PM  
A trivial mistake that changed nothing on the form. Nobody is going to the big house over this.

So when government documents, with your signature on them, pop up covered in white out, you will just let it slide?
 
2013-02-23 03:41:17 PM  

Ace Rimmer: A trivial mistake that changed nothing on the form. Nobody is going to the big house over this.

So when government documents, with your signature on them, pop up covered in white out, you will just let it slide?


maybe not jail, but possible fines in the future.
 
2013-02-23 03:57:44 PM  

Ace Rimmer: He didn't put wrong information on his form. He put down the value in Canadian dollars instead US dollars. His information was correct, accurate and clearly annotated.


Why do you keep perpetuating this bullshiat when the article clearly states that it was the customs people who put the inaccurate information on the form? Oh, right, because to admit the truth would be to admit that your entire premise is completely false. And why would you let the facts get in the way of your story? Unfortunately for you, repeating a lie does not make it true. You are still completely wrong.
 
2013-02-23 04:00:19 PM  

Ace Rimmer: A trivial mistake that changed nothing on the form. Nobody is going to the big house over this.

So when government documents, with your signature on them, pop up covered in white out, you will just let it slide?


Ok. I tell you what, you give me $500 US and I'll give you 500 Somali shillings. Changing the currency changes nothing, right?
 
2013-02-23 04:32:43 PM  

untaken_name: Ok. I tell you what, you give me $500 US and I'll give you 500 Somali shillings. Changing the currency changes nothing, right?


British pounds or Euros makes it more interesting than CAD.

Surely nothing bad will ever come from signing a form that says $328,000 instead of £328,000 or $500,000.

Nope, Ace Rimmer has assured all of us that that form will languish in a cardboard box never to be looked at again.
 
2013-02-23 04:52:16 PM  

pedrop357: Nope, Ace Rimmer has assured all of us that that form will languish in a cardboard box never to be looked at again.


And obviously he is Mr. Lawyer, Ace Attorney at Importin' Stuff.
 
2013-02-25 10:56:59 AM  
The customs agent sounds fat. and black.
 
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