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2013-02-22 01:40:14 PM  

bunner: NEDM: Uh...I don't know what the hell you're talking about.  The guy was dealing with US Customs, which I assure you has existed long before 9/11, complete with their immensely annoying bureaucratic attitude.

And they are new newly empowered with sweeping powers and jurisdictions from other federal agencies because "security" is what the golly gee I'm talking about.


No...no they're not.  They may have been moved under DHS' umbrella post 9/11(Like the Coast Guard), but their powers have remained the same.  Customs would have refused to hand over your boat in 1990 if you had decided not to sign the release form just as they did here.
 
2013-02-22 01:41:08 PM  
I refuse to sign USPS international documents because I'm not the one delivering the package over national borders. Any asshole could try to smuggle something in that package, and I'm not going to be the honest person that gets screwed because of it. Small things matter when the penalty for such small things is so draconian. farking DHS employee should have changed the dollar amount to be accurate. Your temporary laziness does not trump the letter of the law in these ridiculous zero tolerance times we live in.
 
2013-02-22 01:41:56 PM  
I really like how his blog starts off so humblebrag.  I'm really rich, but I only bought a huge boat from Canada, nothing else.  See, I'm just like you!
 
2013-02-22 01:42:14 PM  

tricycleracer: You automatically assume he is 100% innocent in all of this?  You refuse to believe that he botched some part of this import and refuses to take personal responsibility?


that wasn't what the "article" said, so, um, yeah.  I usually tend to side against the squinting dolts who can arbitrarily take your sh*t over a form that "doesn't matter".  If he's as ;ying prick, f*ck him for wasting my time.  If what he said is true, I'm definitely on his side, yeah.

100%?  Please.  And take that straw off my lawn.  I don't participate in ad hominem dogpiles, kids.  Make it count.
 
2013-02-22 01:42:27 PM  

Agent Smiths Laugh: A whole lot of placating the bureaucracy going on in this thread.

/there actually is a matter of legal principle in the stance he took
//but it i so much easier to just obey isn't it?

 
2013-02-22 01:42:51 PM  
I like the guy's humblebrag to start the blog.
 
2013-02-22 01:43:21 PM  

odinsposse: It was never his property. That's the point that the blogger and every "Government robbery!" person in here is missing. It was transferred from the manufacturer to customs. Customs holds it until it gets released.


I'm sorry, I missed the part where sutoms paid for the boat.  My bad.
 
2013-02-22 01:44:18 PM  
the part where sutoms customs paid for the boat.  Can't type.
 
2013-02-22 01:44:48 PM  

redmid17: orclover: fnordfocus: orclover: SHES PAID $9 A farkING HOUR AND DOES NOT GIVE A fark, she hands you something, you sign it, she moves on to her smoke break.  If you rich farking idiots cant figure that out, then you lose your farking boat you farking assholes.  Yes hire a lawyer,  get righteously indignant.  All you are doing is making that boat even more farking expensive.  I hope the farking thing sinks and you get eaten by some god damn sockeye.

This is CBP, not TSA.  With locality, LEAP, etc. it's more like $40-50 an hour and up.

The Officer is much richer than the average American, and it's certainly not unreasonable to expect some level of competence for that compensation.

In Texas the border agents will barely make a living wage.  I highly doubt the socialist utopia of Washington State is paying their border agents doctors wages.  I have heard that la migra is only a slight step up from mall security work, almost on par with jail guards. She is not a lawyer, she's not an accountant, she probably barely has a high school education.   This is like asking the McDonald's cashier to make you crepes.  WTF is wrong with you people?  Sign the stupid thing and move on with your stuck up lives.  Be thankful the inspection didn't involve a arm, elbow deep up your ass with lube from the lowest bidder.

Just because all the Barrista's there have PHD's does not mean your import stamper is a FBI accountant for her night job.

Eh I doubt it.

Pay and Benefits


Q:What is the pay and benefits package?A:New agents are hired at the GL-5, GL-7 or GL-9 grade level depending on education and experience and are paid at a special salary rate for Federal law enforcement personnel. Salaries can be found at: http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/201 2 /law-enforcement-officer/hou_leo.pdf Border Patrol Agents are also provided with opportunities to earn overtime pay. In addition, Agents will receive a uniform allowance of $1500.00 and an excellent Federal Government benefits package including life insurance, health insurance, liberal retirement benefits, and a thrift savings plan (401-K).

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/careers/customs_careers/border_careers/bp _a gent/faqs_working_for_the_usbp.xml#PayandBenefits

Beginning pay for a G-5 is 43K and that's probably without a college degree or a host of other desirable qualifications.


You dont start at step 10... you start at step 1

Usually its GS 5 is a high school degree
GS 7 is a Bachelor's degree
GS 9 is a Master's degree
 
2013-02-22 01:45:12 PM  

NEDM: They may have been moved under DHS' umbrella post 9/11(Like the Coast Guard), but their powers have remained the same


Then why did they move them?
 
2013-02-22 01:45:58 PM  

bunner: odinsposse: It was never his property. That's the point that the blogger and every "Government robbery!" person in here is missing. It was transferred from the manufacturer to customs. Customs holds it until it gets released.

I'm sorry, I missed the part where sutoms paid for the boat.  My bad.


He owns it but that doesn't mean he can legally possess it. If something I own gets put into police evidence I'm still the owner.
 
2013-02-22 01:47:57 PM  

bunner: NEDM: They may have been moved under DHS' umbrella post 9/11(Like the Coast Guard), but their powers have remained the same

Then why did they move them?


I don't know.  But they were.  Maybe because they decided that their "border control" aspects fit the bill of Homeland Security better than they did the Department of the Treasury? No clue.  But that's all it was:  a shift.  They didn't gain anything they didn't already have.
 
2013-02-22 01:48:45 PM  

odinsposse: The customs agent said it can slide. She called another agent, who also said to let it slide. The blogger didn't want to let it slide so he doesn't get his boat.


There is doubtless a long and mind list of legal minutiae that could be ascribed to insuring, claiming and using a watercraft vis a vis the currency used for purchase.  All this "no big deal, sign here", ostensibly petty bullsh*t is the very raison d' etre for attorneys.
 
2013-02-22 01:49:11 PM  

Pitabred: See, the thing is that I'm not wanting the government to take more money from the rich, think it'll trickle down, or anything like that. It's my basic sense of fairness that says "Hey, I'm paying 20% of my income in taxes, why should the Romney's pay 15%? Shouldn't they pay at least the same rate as I do?" I think that everyone in this country, after we have taken care of their basic needs, has a duty to help pay for the public infrastructure that helps all of us. The deficit is almost entirely because of political shenanigans, handouts of government funds to corporate suppliers who are now not paying taxes on that money they made from it. Healthcare, military, DHS, all of it. Our GNP has grown year over year, but we somehow can't seem to do anything but bleed money, and now the poor are poorer than they've ever been, and the rich are richer, but the country is in deep in debt. And according to the GOP, it's all the fault of those 47% of poor people, and we just need to cut taxes on the richest more so that money trickles down. There's a problem with that.



I don't disagree with a single thing you said. In fact, my prediction is that soon the rich are going to start uprooting and leaving America in droves. They've run this country like a going out of business sale for 30 years and this is the endgame. shiat all over everything and leave the rest of us holding the bag. The truly frustrating part will be listening to the Economic Uncle Toms (rank and file conservatives) railing on us for not pandering to the rich enough.


However, that being said, it's still up to us to create our own destiny. My post was merely addressing the common notion that taxing the rich = more money for me, and you said it yourself, all the government can seem to do is bleed money.
 
2013-02-22 01:50:51 PM  

odinsposse: He owns it but that doesn't mean he can legally possess it.


Yeahhhhhhhh.   :  /

odinsposse: If something I own gets put into police evidence I'm still the owner.


And I'm sure the entire 37.50 will be returned to you in due course.
 
2013-02-22 01:51:30 PM  
You don't want a boat.

You want a friend who has a boat. All the fun, none of the hassle.
 
2013-02-22 01:52:56 PM  

bunner: odinsposse: The customs agent said it can slide. She called another agent, who also said to let it slide. The blogger didn't want to let it slide so he doesn't get his boat.

There is doubtless a long and mind list of legal minutiae that could be ascribed to insuring, claiming and using a watercraft vis a vis the currency used for purchase.  All this "no big deal, sign here", ostensibly petty bullsh*t is the very raison d' etre for attorneys.


Maybe so. But a customs agent can't just write in alterations to paperwork based on their whim. At least I've been told that by U.S. customs. If the paperwork is wrong then customs keeps the boat. Which is what happened.
 
2013-02-22 01:54:55 PM  

odinsposse: If the paperwork is wrong then customs keeps the boat. Which is what happened.


I have GOT to buy a printing press and a badge.
 
2013-02-22 01:55:46 PM  
How much you want to bet this chucklehead was warned to get a customs broker but decided he was too smart and rich to need one? Can't wait to find out if he decides to represent himself in court too.
 
2013-02-22 01:56:36 PM  

iheartscotch: So; what you are saying is; you spotted what you thought was a clerical error, and refused to sign a binding legal document because of said error?

And as a result of this decision; the item in question was ceased by the newest, quite possibly most bloated, department of the government?

/ go ahead, get that lawyer; make the department of homeland security's day, punk.


DOOO EEEEET11@!1
 
2013-02-22 01:57:50 PM  

tricycleracer: bunner: tricycleracer: bunner: tricycleracer: I'm waiting for the rest of the story.  You don't go from "clerical error" to "seizure" in one easy step like he suggests.

I'd like to believe that.  I'd like to believe that a lot of things that "can't happen here because that's not how stuff works" aren't happening every friggin' day, but I ain't holding my breath.

I've read more boat forums than I should have today and I cannot find a single example of his experience.

Then maybe he'll go to jail for saying things that aren't true about the glorious protectorate of the fatherland.  Something stinks someplace and my best guess is it has a .gov job.  It's usually the case.

You automatically assume he is 100% innocent in all of this?  You refuse to believe that he botched some part of this import and refuses to take personal responsibility?

You people complain that the borders are too open, then something like this happens, and magically the borders are too closed.


If you don't think there is a difference between stopping people from illegally entering the country and this then  ithink we have found the real problem with low information voters.
 
2013-02-22 01:58:30 PM  

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: How much you want to bet this chucklehead was warned to get a customs broker but decided he was too smart and rich to need one? Can't wait to find out if he decides to represent himself in court too.


I wonder if there are any other portable desk and a pen industries that I can knock together because simply trying to buy something without me getting my cut will result in some dour, gray cow taking your sh*t home.
 
2013-02-22 01:58:32 PM  

bunner: odinsposse: If the paperwork is wrong then customs keeps the boat. Which is what happened.

I have GOT to buy a printing press and a badge.


That and a customs bureau where people will send you things to process through customs.
 
2013-02-22 01:58:49 PM  

bunner: odinsposse: The customs agent said it can slide. She called another agent, who also said to let it slide. The blogger didn't want to let it slide so he doesn't get his boat.

There is doubtless a long and mind list of legal minutiae that could be ascribed to insuring, claiming and using a watercraft vis a vis the currency used for purchase.  All this "no big deal, sign here", ostensibly petty bullsh*t is the very raison d' etre for attorneys.


Yeah I wonder how much a lawyer would charge to say, "Wait, all they want you to do is sign and walk out with your boat? Sign the damn thing and walk out with your boat!
 
2013-02-22 01:59:05 PM  

Ace Rimmer: redmid17: orclover: fnordfocus: orclover: SHES PAID $9 A farkING HOUR AND DOES NOT GIVE A fark, she hands you something, you sign it, she moves on to her smoke break.  If you rich farking idiots cant figure that out, then you lose your farking boat you farking assholes.  Yes hire a lawyer,  get righteously indignant.  All you are doing is making that boat even more farking expensive.  I hope the farking thing sinks and you get eaten by some god damn sockeye.

This is CBP, not TSA.  With locality, LEAP, etc. it's more like $40-50 an hour and up.

The Officer is much richer than the average American, and it's certainly not unreasonable to expect some level of competence for that compensation.

In Texas the border agents will barely make a living wage.  I highly doubt the socialist utopia of Washington State is paying their border agents doctors wages.  I have heard that la migra is only a slight step up from mall security work, almost on par with jail guards. She is not a lawyer, she's not an accountant, she probably barely has a high school education.   This is like asking the McDonald's cashier to make you crepes.  WTF is wrong with you people?  Sign the stupid thing and move on with your stuck up lives.  Be thankful the inspection didn't involve a arm, elbow deep up your ass with lube from the lowest bidder.

Just because all the Barrista's there have PHD's does not mean your import stamper is a FBI accountant for her night job.

Eh I doubt it.

Pay and Benefits


Q:What is the pay and benefits package?A:New agents are hired at the GL-5, GL-7 or GL-9 grade level depending on education and experience and are paid at a special salary rate for Federal law enforcement personnel. Salaries can be found at: http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/201 2 /law-enforcement-officer/hou_leo.pdf Border Patrol Agents are also provided with opportunities to earn overtime pay. In addition, Agents will receive a uniform allowance of $1500.00 and an excellen ...


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Grade 5, Step 1 makes 43,541 a year. Grade 10, Step 1 makes ~60K.
 
2013-02-22 02:00:03 PM  
Seig Heil biatches, hand over your shiat and shut the hell up.

Welcome to the Republik.
 
2013-02-22 02:00:30 PM  

odinsposse: bunner: odinsposse: If the paperwork is wrong then customs keeps the boat. Which is what happened.

I have GOT to buy a printing press and a badge.

That and a customs bureau where people will send you things to process through customs.


*scribbles on a napkin on the way to Best Buy*   :  )
 
2013-02-22 02:01:51 PM  

Ace Rimmer: Yeah I wonder how much a lawyer would charge to say, "Wait, all they want you to do is sign and walk out with your boat? Sign the damn thing and walk out with your boat!


I'm a bit more concerned about the legal pinhole in your condom that might be installed by taking that advice.
 
2013-02-22 02:02:39 PM  

Slaxl: I don't understand why so many of you try so hard to justify the actions of the woman, or dismiss them as inconsequential.


Because People can't believe in an the ever expanding authority of a federal bureaucrat when it suits them and then question their decisions a moment later.
There's nothing left but to blame the victim.

/Government wants us to believe its needed every where for every thing.
/Its sure as shiat going to abuse any power you give it.
 
2013-02-22 02:04:16 PM  

way south: Slaxl: I don't understand why so many of you try so hard to justify the actions of the woman, or dismiss them as inconsequential.

Because People can't believe in an the ever expanding authority of a federal bureaucrat when it suits them and then question their decisions a moment later.
There's nothing left but to blame the victim.

/Government wants us to believe its needed every where for every thing.
/Its sure as shiat going to abuse any power you give it.


Governance and capital are deigned to two to things only.  Eat everything it sees and defecate.  OK, three.  It's designed to expand.  Welcome to the leviathan.
 
2013-02-22 02:05:37 PM  

way south: Slaxl: I don't understand why so many of you try so hard to justify the actions of the woman, or dismiss them as inconsequential.

Because People can't believe in an the ever expanding authority of a federal bureaucrat when it suits them and then question their decisions a moment later.
There's nothing left but to blame the victim.

/Government wants us to believe its needed every where for every thing.
/Its sure as shiat going to abuse any power you give it.


I'm pretty sure that the Customs Service has been a branch of the federal government since the time when the country was founded.
 
2013-02-22 02:08:11 PM  
count me in as one of the people saying wtf is wrong with the jackasses on here defending the confiscating of this guy's boat, please don't vote or attempt to influence policy we got enough authoritarians in government.
 
2013-02-22 02:13:04 PM  

Ace Rimmer: The CBP officer told him the error was insignificant, wouldn't make any difference, and wasn't worth the timewas a lazy biatch and didn't want to bother to leave the dock, go back to the office, correct, return to the dock, etc.


FTFY.
 
2013-02-22 02:18:54 PM  

fredklein: Ace Rimmer: The CBP officer told him the error was insignificant, wouldn't make any difference, and wasn't worth the timewas a lazy biatch and didn't want to bother to leave the dock, go back to the office, correct, return to the dock, etc.

FTFY.


No, no you didn't.
 
2013-02-22 02:19:39 PM  

jaybeezey: If you don't think there is a difference between stopping people from illegally entering the country and this then  ithink we have found the real problem with low information voters.


Oh, you got me there.  I voted for Obama so I'm a libtard.
 
2013-02-22 02:23:12 PM  
There are usually two distinct camps that emerge in the face of flatulent bureaucracy and overreaching authority.  One is certain that if you just alway play along and do as you are told, that they probably wont stick it  in too far and you should be grateful.  The other camp usually rankles and tells the flatulent bureaucracy to go take a flying f*ck at a rolling doughnut.  Guess which faction knocked this country together.
 
2013-02-22 02:26:09 PM  
"A person with a gun and a government badge asked me to swear in writing that a lie was true today.  "

---

Shut your hole, sign the form, and go enjoy your boat.
Melodramatic bullshiat.
 
2013-02-22 02:27:36 PM  

bunner: There are usually two distinct camps that emerge in the face of flatulent bureaucracy and overreaching authority.  One is certain that if you just alway play along and do as you are told, that they probably wont stick it  in too far and you should be grateful.  The other camp usually rankles and tells the flatulent bureaucracy to go take a flying f*ck at a rolling doughnut.  Guess which faction knocked this country together.


corn-bread: "A person with a gun and a government badge asked me to swear in writing that a lie was true today.  "

---

Shut your hole, sign the form, and go enjoy your boat.
Melodramatic bullshiat.


*clicks small hand held counter.*  See?
 
2013-02-22 02:34:36 PM  

gozar_the_destroyer: If I were importing something as expensive as a custom boat from another country, I would have hired a lawyer to help me through the process. International import isn't something to do as an amateur.


Shut the fark up.  You are giving young impressionable people the impression that you have some knowledge of the subject, and it's obvious you don't.

I have actually imported many many cargo containers worth of materials from various countries, and I can tell you, it doesn't require a lawyer, nor would one be particularly useful.  Generally.

The process is simple, and easy, and the forms are not at all bad.  The rules are bit... confusing, but they are made that way, as with all other things government.

The best advice I can give anyone doing this... (importing) do whatever the customs guy says, including paying him a "fee".  It's faster, cheaper and easier.  Also, if you are doing what this guy did, and buying a boat internationally for local delivery.... don't.  Instead, tell the company THEY have to import the boat, and then he will buy it on US soil.  That way, they have to deal with the stupid ass agents at the border.
 
2013-02-22 02:36:00 PM  
Well there has been a lot of DHS hate, but just to buck the trend, CSB

I was returning home to Ottawa (I'm a canuck) from a conference in San Diego.  I had left my baggage in check at my hotel for the day as my first flight was a red-eye to Chicago.  That evening I got my bags, went to the airport, and discovered that me passport had been stolen while my bags had been in check.  I filed a police report and checked with United...as a Canadian citizen returning to Canada, I did not require a passport.  I needed proof of citizenship and photo ID...I had a copy of my birth certificate and my drivers licence which qualified, and I got on the plane.

However in Chicago the good folks at United refused to let me on the plane, saying I needed a passport.  I couldn't convince them otherwise (perhaps whatever info was available in San Diego hadn't made it that far east).  I missed my 6 am flight and since no one knew what to do with me, they sent me to DHS.  DHS looked up the rules and said yea, I didn't need a passport and should be able to get on a plane.  United drones said no, wait for the manager.  I missed 2 more flights waiting for him to show up some time after 10 am.  He too insisted I needed a passport.

I was starting to get upset.  It was Sunday morning and the Canadian consulate would be closed until Tuesday (Canadian Thanksgiving was that Monday).  My cell battery was dying.  I hadn't slept in over 24 hours (and had spent most of the previous day in the sun walking around the San Diego zoo).  I was getting fried.

DHS dude was my savior.  He let me use their phone to call home to update my family.  Then he marched over to the United manager with a copy of Canadian regulations...highlighted...showing that I had adequate ID.  Then he marched the manager over to the nearest United counter and had him ensure that I had a pass for the 1 pm flight, confirm that my luggage would be transferred, and call ahead to make sure the boarding staff would allow me on the plane sans passport.  From the the way the woman at the ticket counter was smirking at the manager, it seemed she was enjoying the show.  So yea...thank you DHS.

/TL I know :(
/end CSB
 
2013-02-22 02:42:23 PM  

bunner: bunner: There are usually two distinct camps that emerge in the face of flatulent bureaucracy and overreaching authority.  One is certain that if you just alway play along and do as you are told, that they probably wont stick it  in too far and you should be grateful.  The other camp usually rankles and tells the flatulent bureaucracy to go take a flying f*ck at a rolling doughnut.  Guess which faction knocked this country together.

corn-bread: "A person with a gun and a government badge asked me to swear in writing that a lie was true today.  "

---

Shut your hole, sign the form, and go enjoy your boat.
Melodramatic bullshiat.

*clicks small hand held counter.*  See?



Hey, I sue governments for fun and profit.  Got two 43 U.S.C. 1983 complaints pending as I write this.  I'm all about raising a stink when wronged by Big Brother.
But raising a stink over a currency snafu on a declarations form?  Nah bro.
 
2013-02-22 02:43:40 PM  

corn-bread: bunner: bunner: There are usually two distinct camps that emerge in the face of flatulent bureaucracy and overreaching authority.  One is certain that if you just alway play along and do as you are told, that they probably wont stick it  in too far and you should be grateful.  The other camp usually rankles and tells the flatulent bureaucracy to go take a flying f*ck at a rolling doughnut.  Guess which faction knocked this country together.

corn-bread: "A person with a gun and a government badge asked me to swear in writing that a lie was true today.  "

---

Shut your hole, sign the form, and go enjoy your boat.
Melodramatic bullshiat.

*clicks small hand held counter.*  See?


Hey, I sue governments for fun and profit.  Got two 43 U.S.C. 1983 complaints pending as I write this.  I'm all about raising a stink when wronged by Big Brother.
But raising a stink over a currency snafu on a declarations form?  Nah bro.


You have two civil rights violations pending as of right now? How'd those come about?
 
2013-02-22 02:44:14 PM  
Boy, am I excited to read part two of the saga, where he has a boat custom built for him and has a bit of a rough time! Or as he describes it, "a nightmare."
 
2013-02-22 02:45:27 PM  

bunner: tricycleracer: This guy is a farking drama queen.

Yeah, that must be it.  On the other hand, they can take your property if you refuse to sign an inaccurate form that "doesn't really matter".  I mean, cause, you know, for the security of the fatherland.  Welcome to the fourth reich.  You can have a comfy chair but if we say it's a threat to "security", it's gonna be our comfy chair, so eat sh*t while we steal from you.  You know what the opposite of a "drama queen" is?  A pissy little b*tch who sucks any dick stuck in her face cause "what UVER".


Noice. Yeah, I mean, imagine, the guy can't just take a 500k loss for NO GODDAM REASON and shrug it off. What a drama queen. I'm sure if mr tricycleracer had his tricycle confiscated for no reason he'd be livejournaling about it 20 seconds later.
 
2013-02-22 02:45:31 PM  
And that's wonderful that somebody did their job.  Because that's all ANY government job is.  Civil service.  To work within the fair and simple guidelines of whatever agency it is that signs your check in order to facilitate safety, commerce, travel and the general welfare of the populace.  That's IT.  Punkt.  Fullstop.  The very nanosecond that somebody with that agency says "No.  YOU have to do what *I* say and *MY* way because *I* said so, or I'm gonna bend your ass over the sink", that agency is not longer what it says on the label, the pooch is screwed and that agent, or perhaps that agency, needs removed, tut suite.  And the long and broad collections of not so CSBs that clutter the news and the dockets because of people misusing their position in these agencies is evidence to the fact that, while your story might not have been the exception, it is not always the rule.  And that's bullsh*t.  Cause that ain't what we pay for.
 
2013-02-22 02:45:49 PM  

redmid17: corn-bread: bunner: bunner: There are usually two distinct camps that emerge in the face of flatulent bureaucracy and overreaching authority.  One is certain that if you just alway play along and do as you are told, that they probably wont stick it  in too far and you should be grateful.  The other camp usually rankles and tells the flatulent bureaucracy to go take a flying f*ck at a rolling doughnut.  Guess which faction knocked this country together.

corn-bread: "A person with a gun and a government badge asked me to swear in writing that a lie was true today.  "

---

Shut your hole, sign the form, and go enjoy your boat.
Melodramatic bullshiat.

*clicks small hand held counter.*  See?


Hey, I sue governments for fun and profit.  Got two 43 U.S.C. 1983 complaints pending as I write this.  I'm all about raising a stink when wronged by Big Brother.
But raising a stink over a currency snafu on a declarations form?  Nah bro.

You have two civil rights violations pending as of right now? How'd those come about?



Filed them on behalf of my clients.  One was a bar owner that was harassed by the cops.  The other is a lady that was indicted five times in six months on myriad of frivolous charges.  *Those* are government run amok.
 
2013-02-22 02:51:14 PM  
Do you know how I know this guy was never in the Army?
 
2013-02-22 02:51:53 PM  
I think I'll wait for the other side of the story to come out before passing judgement.

Hundreds of these types of articles are written every year, and the majority of the time we find out there was much more to the story than the "victim" acknowledged.

No offense to all the wagon-jumpers above, but I'd feel foolish pronouncing haughty and self-righteous judgement on this evil civil servant only to later learn that the guy was fudging the declared value by swapping currencies or trying to pull some "sovereign citizen" bullshiat.

So, yeah, let's see what's on the other side of the coin before declaring a crisis of tyrrany.
 
2013-02-22 02:52:55 PM  

2farknfunny: Do you know how I know this guy was never in the Army?


He didn't shoot the b*tch and commandeer the boat for the good of his outfit?
 
2013-02-22 02:55:10 PM  

Highroller48: So, yeah, let's see what's on the other side of the coin before declaring a crisis of tyrrany.


I'm more declaring incompetence, insouciance, general "hey, whatever kiss my ass" - ness, actually, but you have a point.
 
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