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(Talking Points Memo)   Republican outreach to Latinos has been a huge success - for El Presidente   (tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 62
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2013-02-22 02:19:29 AM  
Duh.
 
2013-02-22 06:17:06 AM  
"Hey Pedro, come over here so I can outreach to you. That's it. Don't be shy. I'm not going to deport you this time..."

I use the same trick to get my dog in her cage sometimes. Latinos by and large probably don't fall for it as often as she does.
 
2013-02-22 07:19:27 AM  
So the worst thing for immigration form but the best thing for the president is that he weighed in with a plan with tons of reasonable items.    Now republicans must oppose even if it were things they wanted to do.  Now they will look like a bunch of racist a-holes.  Reflexive opposition is the Republican's worst(and they have man bad) problem.
 
2013-02-22 07:24:25 AM  
I have the sneaking suspicion that every single so-called conservative would be in favor of "European style" socialism if we lived in a homogeneous white culture. The fact that non-whites also benefit from social safety net programs is the problem, not government overreach.
 
2013-02-22 07:30:38 AM  

bmongar: So the worst thing for immigration form but the best thing for the president is that he weighed in with a plan with tons of reasonable items.    Now republicans must oppose even if it were things they wanted to do.  Now they will look like a bunch of racist a-holes.  Reflexive opposition is the Republican's worst(and they have man bad) problem.


I think the root problem just might be that many Republicans are racist a-holes.
 
2013-02-22 07:30:48 AM  

MyEnamine: I have the sneaking suspicion that every single so-called conservative would be in favor of "European style" socialism if we lived in a homogeneous white culture. The fact that non-whites also benefit from social safety net programs is the problem, not government overreach.


You'll find most conservative policy is rooted in racism. It's the only way most of their actions make any sense.
 
2013-02-22 07:44:43 AM  
But.....but.....but...but.... Marco Rubio!

I guess Republicans still haven't figured out it is the message and not the race of the messenger that appeals to the rational segment of the American populace.
 
2013-02-22 07:48:36 AM  

heavymetal: But.....but.....but...but.... Marco Rubio!

I guess Republicans still haven't figured out it is the message and not the race of the messenger that appeals to the rational segment of the American populace.


Not to mention a lot of Hispanics don't like Cubans.

Of course, Republicans probably think every Hispanic in the US is from Mexico.
 
2013-02-22 07:49:00 AM  

heavymetal: But.....but.....but...but.... Marco Rubio!

I guess Republicans still haven't figured out it is the message and not the race of the messenger that appeals to the rational segment of the American populace.


Well, these ARE the people who ran Sarah Palin to snatch up all those disaffected women when Hillary didn't get the nomination.

They think people in general are that stupid and shallow because most of their base actually is.

(No, I didn't intend "snatch up" to be a play on words when I wrote it. But I like it, so I'll leave it there.)
 
2013-02-22 07:52:17 AM  
www.united-nations-of-beer.com
 
2013-02-22 07:53:53 AM  
I betting no Republicans have any more public forums on immigration reform any time soon. They probably don't want Latinos hearing from any more of their actual base.
 
2013-02-22 08:00:52 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-02-22 08:01:12 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: I use the same trick to get my dog in her cage sometimes. Latinos by and large probably don't fall for it as often as she does.


All I have to do is give them a biscuit and call them good boys. They often will walk in their own crates as soon as I put my shoes on without even asking.

My dogs are slightly harder to get in their crates than the Latinos though.
 
2013-02-22 08:05:07 AM  

MyEnamine: I have the sneaking suspicion that every single so-called conservative would be in favor of "European style" socialism if we lived in a homogeneous white culture. The fact that non-whites also benefit from social safety net programs is the problem, not government overreach.


Considering the efforts in places like France to limit or outright deny benefits to immigrants (most of whom are decidedly browner than the average Frenchman) I suspect you are right.
 
2013-02-22 08:05:48 AM  

heavymetal: But.....but.....but...but.... Marco Rubio!

I guess Republicans still haven't figured out it is the message and not the race of the messenger that appeals to the rational segment of the American populace.


It's hard to get people to vote against their own economic self-interest. The Republican base does so because they fear and hate outsiders. Latin voters want policy that strengthens the poorer and middle classes. Just like most Americans in general. People are smarter than Republicans think.
 
2013-02-22 08:06:02 AM  

MyEnamine: I have the sneaking suspicion that every single so-called conservative would be in favor of "European style" socialism if we lived in a homogeneous white culture. The fact that non-whites also benefit from social safety net programs is the problem, not government overreach.


Bingo
 
2013-02-22 08:09:50 AM  
Proceed, Rapepublicans.
 
2013-02-22 08:13:37 AM  

The Madd Mann: heavymetal: But.....but.....but...but.... Marco Rubio!

I guess Republicans still haven't figured out it is the message and not the race of the messenger that appeals to the rational segment of the American populace.

Not to mention a lot of Hispanics don't like Cubans.

Of course, Republicans probably think every Hispanic in the US is from Mexico.



Nailed it. Many Hispanics don't like going through the decades long road to citizenship when Cubans get to cut to the front of the line.

However, lots of folks in the GOP think that won't matter because "HEY LOOK, GUYS! WE GOT ONE TOO!"
 
2013-02-22 08:13:50 AM  
Is this guy the newest advisor to the Republican Party?


i.imgur.com

/Read the headline with his voice.
 
2013-02-22 08:18:26 AM  

stoli n coke: Nailed it. Many Hispanics don't like going through the decades long road to citizenship when Cubans get to cut to the front of the line.

However, lots of folks in the GOP think that won't matter because "HEY LOOK, GUYS! WE GOT ONE TOO!"


Plus we got two Indians in Haley and Jindal, see we are the multicultural party. We just don't want those "other" people.
 
2013-02-22 08:18:59 AM  
Even if the GOP could manage to convince a few Latinos that they should vote GOP they'd lose those votes the minute they have to defend their seat against a TPer in a primary. They'd have to move their rhetoric hard right or risk losing the primary...and moving their rhetoric hard right will lose the Latinos...and women, moderates, independents, etc...

The GOP must be dreaming if they think they can suddenly put on a happy face and win over the demos they've lost. The TP wont stand for that, they've made that pretty clear.

in conclusion hahahahaha
 
2013-02-22 08:22:07 AM  
And here's where Republicans counter with Rubio on TV dressed in a sombrero and poncho asking the American people if they like his new leopard skin seat covers.
 
2013-02-22 08:22:33 AM  

unexplained bacon: Even if the GOP could manage to convince a few Latinos that they should vote GOP they'd lose those votes the minute they have to defend their seat against a TPer in a primary. They'd have to move their rhetoric hard right or risk losing the primary...and moving their rhetoric hard right will lose the Latinos...and women, moderates, independents, etc...

The GOP must be dreaming if they think they can suddenly put on a happy face and win over the demos they've lost. The TP wont stand for that, they've made that pretty clear.

in conclusion hahahahaha


Short of a "Night of the Long Knives" I have to say I'll be interested to see how the GOP finally gets rid of the tea party.  If the existence of the tea party wasn't so destructive to governance in general it'd be hilarious to watch the Republicans suffer a slow death at the hands of their own biological weapon.
 
2013-02-22 08:28:53 AM  

unexplained bacon: in conclusion hahahahaha


I need to find a way to work this into a conversation today.
 
2013-02-22 08:30:48 AM  

Mercutio74: unexplained bacon: Even if the GOP could manage to convince a few Latinos that they should vote GOP they'd lose those votes the minute they have to defend their seat against a TPer in a primary. They'd have to move their rhetoric hard right or risk losing the primary...and moving their rhetoric hard right will lose the Latinos...and women, moderates, independents, etc...

The GOP must be dreaming if they think they can suddenly put on a happy face and win over the demos they've lost. The TP wont stand for that, they've made that pretty clear.

in conclusion hahahahaha

Short of a "Night of the Long Knives" I have to say I'll be interested to see how the GOP finally gets rid of the tea party.  If the existence of the tea party wasn't so destructive to governance in general it'd be hilarious to watch the Republicans suffer a slow death at the hands of their own biological weapon.


I think it's going to be ugly, we know the TP isn't afraid to show its ass in public, and the GOP is pretty much inept at this point. The GOP used to be great at staying on message and catapulting the propaganda, but lately it seems they can't help but underestimate people to the point of insult.

I think/hope that the end result is a GOP that can't pull off national elections very well for at least a decade, and a TP that is split from the GOP for about a year before they start having splits within the TP.
 
2013-02-22 08:32:30 AM  
Will the GOP ever learn that building a base consisting of mouth breathing xenophobic Neanderthals has some downsides?
 
2013-02-22 08:33:15 AM  
It's hard for Republicans to tell people "We want you to succeed and work at building a better life for yourself" and make it sound good when Obama is saying "I want to take away money from people who earned it and give it away to you so you'll be dependent on me forever"
 
2013-02-22 08:35:24 AM  

Muta: Will the GOP ever learn that building a base consisting of mouth breathing xenophobic Neanderthals has some downsides?


It'll be awhile. It did work for them for a long time, don't forget.
 
2013-02-22 08:37:21 AM  

InmanRoshi: And here's where Republicans counter with Rubio on TV dressed in a sombrero and poncho asking the American people if they like his new leopard skin seat covers.


They're working like hell to get George P. Bush propped up as a rising political star. Half-Hispanic, but comes from a political dynasty. He better get used to being referred to as "one of the good ones."
 
2013-02-22 08:37:27 AM  

randomjsa: It's hard for Republicans to tell people "We want you to succeed and work at building a better life for yourself" and make it sound good when Obama is saying "I want to take away money from people who earned it and give it away to you so you'll be dependent on me forever"


if you guys are going to stay in pretendland don't expect everyone else to treat you like you have anything relevant to say.
 
2013-02-22 08:37:55 AM  

Hagbardr: My dogs are slightly harder to get in their crates than the Latinos though.


I have pretty good luck using burritos to crate my Latinos.  You may want to it out, you might be suprised.
 
2013-02-22 08:42:31 AM  

Muta: Will the GOP ever learn that building a base consisting of mouth breathing xenophobic Neanderthals has some downsides?


Hey now! Neanderthals were smarter than we usually give them credit for. The Tea Party base, not so much.
 
2013-02-22 08:43:54 AM  

randomjsa: It's hard for Republicans to tell people "We want you to succeed and work at building a better life for yourself" and make it sound good when Obama is saying "I want to take away money from people who earned it and give it away to you so you'll be dependent on me forever"


Kind of tricky to convince people you want them to succeed for themselves when nearly every high-profile Republican out there today rode in on family name and connections. Seriously. Reagan is the last person the GOP nominated for president that didn't grow up spouting the phrase "Do you know who my dad is?"

But yeah, ya'll are a real bootstrappy bunch.
 
2013-02-22 08:49:54 AM  

The Madd Mann: heavymetal: But.....but.....but...but.... Marco Rubio!

I guess Republicans still haven't figured out it is the message and not the race of the messenger that appeals to the rational segment of the American populace.

Not to mention a lot of Hispanics don't like Cubans.

Of course, Republicans probably think every Hispanic in the US is from Mexico.


It reminds me of the show "King of the Hill" where they all are calling the neighbor Kahn "Chinese" despite Kahn's best efforts to explain that he is from Laos.
 
2013-02-22 08:54:07 AM  

InmanRoshi: And here's where Republicans counter with Rubio on TV dressed in a sombrero and poncho asking the American people if they like his new leopard skin seat covers.


I laughed at this mental image. Clearly I am a racist.

/soy racisto por supuesto
 
2013-02-22 08:56:32 AM  
The Republicans had their chance to bite off a good chunk of the Latino demographic when Bush tried to do immigration reform back in 2007. Say what you want about Dubya but at least he was smart enough (or had enough experience coming from Texas) to know that the GOP needed some of that vote going forward into the future. The derp wing of their party sure didn't though, seeing how they torpedoed the reform in congress.

The current House would never pass reform, either. They know they've already lost the Latinos and are just trying to hold back the inevitable. I can't wait to see them in full-on freak-out mode when there's finally a path to citizenship, voting, and electoral obscurity for Republicans except for in isolated regions of the country (even more so than they already are). Double points if Obama signs some Executive Orders to that end, if that's even possible.
 
2013-02-22 08:58:24 AM  

Mercutio74: unexplained bacon: Even if the GOP could manage to convince a few Latinos that they should vote GOP they'd lose those votes the minute they have to defend their seat against a TPer in a primary. They'd have to move their rhetoric hard right or risk losing the primary...and moving their rhetoric hard right will lose the Latinos...and women, moderates, independents, etc...

The GOP must be dreaming if they think they can suddenly put on a happy face and win over the demos they've lost. The TP wont stand for that, they've made that pretty clear.

in conclusion hahahahaha

Short of a "Night of the Long Knives" I have to say I'll be interested to see how the GOP finally gets rid of the tea party.


Now, now, let's not be hasty... let's not rule anything out. Long knives, you say?
 
2013-02-22 09:00:29 AM  

randomjsa: It's hard for Republicans to tell people "We want you to succeed and work at building a better life for yourself" and make it sound good when Obama is saying "I want to take away money from people who earned it and give it away to you so you'll be dependent on me forever"


Citation?
 
2013-02-22 09:06:21 AM  

stoli n coke: randomjsa: It's hard for Republicans to tell people "We want you to succeed and work at building a better life for yourself" and make it sound good when Obama is saying "I want to take away money from people who earned it and give it away to you so you'll be dependent on me forever"

Kind of tricky to convince people you want them to succeed for themselves when nearly every high-profile Republican out there today rode in on family name and connections. Seriously. Reagan is the last person the GOP nominated for president that didn't grow up spouting the phrase "Do you know who my dad is?"

But yeah, ya'll are a real bootstrappy bunch.


Not to mention trying to eliminate any program which is there to to help them succeed, framing it as doing them a favor by keeping the government out of ther lives.  "Hey guys we see how the government is holding you down so we are going to eliminate the tyrannical chains of education, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, meals on wheels, etc; so you can better succeed in life.  Because it is obvious that an education, health, food, etc. are the things holding you back and a threat to your freedoms"
 
2013-02-22 09:15:45 AM  

NateGrey: randomjsa: It's hard for Republicans to tell people "We want you to succeed and work at building a better life for yourself" and make it sound good when Obama is saying "I want to take away money from people who earned it and give it away to you so you'll be dependent on me forever"

Citation?


imaginationland....where most GOPers have retreated.

where Latinos are simultaneously taking our jobs and so lazy that they're only voting for democrats so they can live off the labor of the rich.

I love that the GOPe is desperate to bite into the latino demographic, but their base and even many of their legislators can't help but say stuff like, "we can't gain any latino votes because Obama is saying 'I want to take away money from people who earned it and give it away to you so you'll be dependent on me forever'". Do they not realize they're insulting latinos by saying something like that?...I guess not.

I hoped the election in November would hurt the GOP, but their reaction has been so much better than I hoped. They're a big mess, demoralizing their base, and off message. Looks like this very well might carry through to the mid-term elections at least. Great : )
 
2013-02-22 09:17:43 AM  
Who was Bob Dole's dad?
 
2013-02-22 09:17:55 AM  

randomjsa: It's hard for Republicans to tell people "We want you to succeed and work at building a better life for yourself" and make it sound good when Obama is saying "I want to take away money from people who earned it and give it away to you so you'll be dependent on me.  Best part . . . . . . forever"


FTFY
 
2013-02-22 09:20:07 AM  
What Republican outreach to Latinos may look like:

growlersoftware.com
 
2013-02-22 09:21:35 AM  
The entire republican platform works out pretty well for the president.

The fact is that it isn't the poorly executed outreach that's the problem for the GOP.  It isn't the way they phrase their positions, it's their positions.  They are wrong, or at least on the unpopular side, of nearly every issue.

Conservatism is never a successful philosophy in the long run.  Conservatives cannot win elections except through coercion, disinformation/propoganda, and cheating.  Successfull conservatives know this, just as they know that their base is made up of the ignorant, the stupid, the cowardly, and the easily manipulated.
 
2013-02-22 09:36:03 AM  

jcooli09: The fact is that it isn't the poorly executed outreach that's the problem for the GOP. It isn't the way they phrase their positions, it's their positions. They are wrong, or at least on the unpopular side, of nearly every issue.


Rubio's and Obama's plans are not that far apart and the GOP message could have reflected that.  Instead Rubio grabs the megaphone and says that Obama's plan is stupid followed the next day by the Teabaggers in the GOP grabbing the megaphone and announce Obama's and Rubio's plans are stupid.  The Rubios and the Teabag response makes Obama look like the only grown-up in the room.
 
2013-02-22 09:45:21 AM  

Muta: jcooli09: The fact is that it isn't the poorly executed outreach that's the problem for the GOP. It isn't the way they phrase their positions, it's their positions. They are wrong, or at least on the unpopular side, of nearly every issue.

Rubio's and Obama's plans are not that far apart and the GOP message could have reflected that.  Instead Rubio grabs the megaphone and says that Obama's plan is stupid followed the next day by the Teabaggers in the GOP grabbing the megaphone and announce Obama's and Rubio's plans are stupid.  The Rubios and the Teabag response makes Obama look like the only grown-up in the room.


As long as the GOP clings to their increasing insane base, they will become more an more irrelevant.  They are trying to keep the party from actually splitting but I think they would be smarter, to let is split.
 
2013-02-22 10:05:56 AM  
Obama has really brought the heat in his second term.  Instead of creating situations in which the Republicans can unite against him, he creates situations that pit Republican principles against each other, forcing the GOP to choose and in the process, fracture themselves.  Divide and conquer.
 
2013-02-22 10:27:29 AM  

impaler: What Republican outreach to Latinos may look like:

[growlersoftware.com image 800x562]


That is all sorts of awesome.
 
2013-02-22 10:29:25 AM  

Jon iz teh kewl: [upload.wikimedia.org image 198x196]


*leaving satisfied*
 
2013-02-22 10:37:45 AM  

Alphax: Duh.


Done in one.

Also:  The GOP's continuing insistence of blocking any "pathway to immigration" will continue to ensure that minorities will keep voting Democrat for generations to come and keep turning formerly red states either purple (leaning democrat) or blue.
 
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