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2013-02-21 09:45:37 PM
10 votes:
Anytime you fire an officer for reporting real criminal actions of other officers, you reinforce that police do not follow the same laws.  This creates both a chilling effect on whistleblowers and a free license for officers to get out of hand.
2013-02-22 02:14:41 AM
6 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: penthesilea: FlashHarry: what kind of sick farking cop threatens the president?

I'm guessing that there just may be some racist cops out there.

I couldn't find any motivation cited in the article, racist or otherwise. What leads you to believe it was racially motivated? Or are you just one of those people who thinks any criticism of a person of color is because racism?


When someone threatens the POTUS, and he's not only the first one of color, but also the most centrist, mild, and scandal-free president we've ever had.. very few other motivations come to mind.
2013-02-22 09:31:21 AM
4 votes:
Let's be clear, he was fired for reporting his fellow officers. The excuse they used was the interview. It's like when the cops want to search your car. The excuse they use to pull you over (say, illegal lane change) and then the probable cause they find (you appear nervous) are made up BS.
2013-02-22 06:20:11 AM
4 votes:

LeoffDaGrate: He was fired for violating a department policy - No interviews to the press.


Here's the thing. It's very easy for me to believe that the firing 'for violating a department policy' is a legal smokescreen for the real, underlying act of retaliation. Way too easy. That's the problem.
2013-02-22 03:45:33 AM
4 votes:
This sounds like retaliation to me. If I were the whistleblower, I'd be getting a lawyer and suing.
2013-02-21 10:47:20 PM
4 votes:

rev. dave: Anytime you fire an officer for reporting real criminal actions of other officers, you reinforce that police do not follow the same laws.  This creates both a chilling effect on whistleblowers and a free license for officers to get out of hand.


And cops wonder why people hate them.

/Chris Dorner died for our sins
2013-02-22 08:23:51 AM
3 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Or are you just one of those people who thinks any criticism of a person of color is because racism?


threatening to murder = criticism.

got it!
2013-02-22 12:16:28 AM
3 votes:

PreMortem: Whatever he got fired for it wasn't whistleblowing, and the POS article doesn't say.


Actually, it does say:

The officer told a CBS 6 reporter that on Tuesday he was terminated from the department, later learning that it was because of his interview with CBS, which the department said was in violation of its policy.

So he was fired because he gave an interview about his whistle-blowing.
2013-02-21 09:25:53 PM
3 votes:
The two officers who were terminated dispute that the threats were made. An attorney representing them in their efforts to be reinstated told CBS 6: "Unfortunately, the termination of the self-proclaimed 'whistleblower' does nothing to remedy the fact that his false allegations resulted in the termination of two officers. Their careers were ended and they have gone through eight months of hell."

So everyone was fired. And we are supposed to feel bad for the guys that wanted to "take a couple of shots . . ." and that another voice in the background talked about planting a bomb under the stage.? Sorry, I disliked Bush, but I never wanted him shot or killed.
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-02-22 09:46:32 AM
2 votes:

Devolving_Spud: Nadie_AZ: Sorry, I disliked Bush, but I never wanted him shot or killed.

Of course not.   Then we would have been stuck with Cheney.


That and the reasons we disliked Bush were based on rationality.  90% of the things being said about Obama are pure bullshiat.  I am fine with people not sharing political beliefs, but this is another example that we've gone well beyond rationality and it's now a contest about whatever idiots can dream up and say.
2013-02-22 09:40:22 AM
2 votes:
This kind of stuff leads to situations like Christopher Dorner.
2013-02-22 08:42:56 AM
2 votes:

MurphyMurphy: FlashHarry: what kind of sick fark becomes a cop?


i knew a kid in high school - a real racist loser - he told me he wanted to become a cop so he could "bust n*ggers." i believe he eventually did. become a cop, that is.
2013-02-22 08:02:01 AM
2 votes:

DesertMP: penthesilea: FlashHarry: what kind of sick farking cop threatens the president?

I'm guessing that there just may be some racist cops out there.

Just one thing. You don't have to be racist to hate Obama. You can hate him on his actions alone. Not because of his race.


That sounds racist.
2013-02-22 07:33:17 AM
2 votes:
If I was that whistleblower, I sure as hell wouldn't work at that department again. Internal Affairs would think the three loads of buckshot in the back of my head was 'a tragic accident' or suicide.
2013-02-22 07:06:24 AM
2 votes:
The article makes it sound that he blew the whistle by going to press (not sure if that's actually the case, the article is pretty badly written), rather than just talking to the press afterwards.

If I were a LEO hearing credible threats on the president's life, I'd like to think I'd report it to the Secret Service rather than the 6 o'clock news.
2013-02-22 06:27:18 AM
2 votes:

MooseUpNorth: LeoffDaGrate: He was fired for violating a department policy - No interviews to the press.

Here's the thing. It's very easy for me to believe that the firing 'for violating a department policy' is a legal smokescreen for the real, underlying act of retaliation. Way too easy. That's the problem.



Oh, obviously.  The Department are being dicks and retaliating in any way they can.  I didn't say it was ethically right or that I agreed with it, just that, legally, what they did wasn't wrong.  It's like if you were biatching about the boss while jaywalking.  Hardly anyone gets arrested for jaywalking, yet on that particular day your boss happens to be standing with a cop buddy of his on the corner...
2013-02-22 06:24:49 AM
2 votes:
should a LEO snap and pull that trigger at POTUS we'll know why co-workers kept their mouth shut. something tells me this fellow talked to his upline and not a damn thing was done about it. there was another LEO (ex-LEO) who had whistleblower problems just a week or two ago but he went up in smoke.
2013-02-22 05:51:04 AM
2 votes:

PreMortem: Pretty sure you can't be fired for reporting what could be an assassination attempt on the president.

Whatever he got fired for it wasn't whistleblowing, and the POS article doesn't say.


You have a truly dizzying intellect.  RTFA again, Sparky.

Babwa Wawa: rev. dave: Anytime you fire an officer for reporting real criminal actions of other officers, you reinforce that police do not follow the same laws.  This creates both a chilling effect on whistleblowers and a free license for officers to get out of hand.
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TFA:  The officer told a CBS 6 reporter that on Tuesday he was terminated from the department, later learning that it was because of his interview with CBS, which the department said was in violation of its policy.

I'm not cop defender, but the guy was fired for giving an interview to the press, not for being a whistleblower.


I'm not a lawyer, and I don't know what protections state or local government employees have, but I'm pretty sure that if this cop were a federal employee, that distinction would be completely irrelevant under the Whistleblower Protection Act.

rev. dave: Anytime you fire an officer for reporting real criminal actions of other officers, you reinforce that police do not follow the same laws.  This creates both a chilling effect on whistleblowers and a free license for officers to get out of hand.


Also, this, a thousand times.
2013-02-22 02:04:59 AM
2 votes:

penthesilea: FlashHarry: what kind of sick farking cop threatens the president?

I'm guessing that there just may be some racist cops out there.


I couldn't find any motivation cited in the article, racist or otherwise. What leads you to believe it was racially motivated? Or are you just one of those people who thinks any criticism of a person of color is because racism?
2013-02-22 01:19:52 AM
2 votes:

SpaceyCat: So he was fired because he gave an interview about his whistle-blowing.


The interview was the whistle-blowing.

A police officer in Richmond, Virginia says he was fired from the department after whistle-blowing to a local news station
2013-02-21 11:55:57 PM
2 votes:

FlashHarry: what kind of sick fark becomes a cop?

2013-02-21 09:15:36 PM
2 votes:
what kind of sick farking cop threatens the president?
2013-02-22 10:40:38 PM
1 votes:
The message becomes ever clearer:

If you're a cop and you're thinking of calling out the misconduct of a brother officer, you'll clap your doughnut holster shut and go back to beating civvies like your told if you know what's good for you.
2013-02-22 03:24:21 PM
1 votes:

Z-clipped: liam76: farkmedown: I'll grant the first of color and maybe the most scandal-free, but centrist or mild? No

As far as gays in the military, DOMA, etc you are right.

When it comes to taxes, immigration, etc is close to reagan (further to the right than Ronnie actually).

Republicans being swept up in teatard policies doesn't make Obama's policies less centrist.

Wrong!  Conservatives were NEVER more moderate than they are now.  And we have ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia.


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2013-02-22 01:58:27 PM
1 votes:

gshepnyc: That absolutely falls under the "the people have a right to know" madate of free expression and free press. If that doesn't supercede department rules, then that, too, reinforces the idea that cops are a law unto themselves. The crime was a threat against our president, yours mine and theirs, by people we are told to respect and obey. This deserved to be publicly revealed and NOT filtered through the department's PR screens first.


It was reported to and investigated by the Secret Service, the officers who made the comments were fired.  The situation was not exactly swept under the rug.
2013-02-22 12:37:57 PM
1 votes:

SquiggsIN: Personally, I think anyone who still believes that either side (R or D) has their best interests in mind hasn't been paying very much attention or is too stupid to understand what's in front of them.


It's not that people who vote Democrat think that the Democrats have their best interests in mind.  It's that they think there are at least some few Democratic politicians who do.  Which is significant, since it's clear from their policy that not a single one of the GOP politicians do, unless you happen to be rich.

gja: When I see one that puts his/her WHOLE self into doing their job without waste or waffling I will be happy.


I'm sorry about the rest of your life.  : (
2013-02-22 12:33:10 PM
1 votes:

gja: d23: I'm fine with all these criticisms, but the problem is that people like you were absolutely FINE when Bush did the same thing. That's why people think it involves hyper-parasitism.

liam76: What did geitner do that was illegal?

I agree 100% about Holder, but if you don't think Bush pulled the same your head was up your ass (not saying it makes it right, just that it wouldn't make you more inclined to rant abotu how evil he is).

As far as money goes, he added less to the debt than Bush did, and he got us out of a recession.

/before you start throwing out yearly defeceit, you need to remember that Obama wasn;t respnsible for budget when he entered office, and factor int he cost of the Bush tax cuts.

To both of you: I screamed bloody murder at every prez who has done this. It's my right to do so and I will continue to exercise that right. DON'T PRESUME you know what I did or did not do. That is faulty thinking.

Don't say things like "people like you" or that generalistic bullshiat. You don't know me that well.

Geithner: how is he a criminal.  Enumerate it please.
liam76: What did geitner do that was illegal?
Falsified tax returns. You and I would have gone to lockup for the stunt he pulled.
Don't claim it's not so. GIS the details. All very public knowledge.
Try this for starters.


This. I was actually way more critical of Bush and his entire administration. Of course during those years whenever I voiced my opinion, it was the republicans calling me an anti-American socialist libtard. Now when I mildly criticize Obama I get called a racist bootstrappy conservative.

Ah partisan hackery, you never let me down.
gja [TotalFark]
2013-02-22 12:20:43 PM
1 votes:

liam76: gja: To both of you: I screamed bloody murder at every prez who has done this. It's my right to do so and I will continue to exercise that right. DON'T PRESUME you know what I did or did not do. That is faulty thinking.

Yes it is your right to do so, but the original point was that he was "centerist".

I am fine bashing him for this, but not in the context of him being worse than other presidents.


GOOD. Then we agree. I bash ALL politicians equally. They all suck! I trust none of them as they have clearly shown they have not earned my trust.

O is centrist . Decidedly so. Bush was a numbskull. Clinton was preoccupied with skirt (might still be, that old dog).

When I see one that puts his/her WHOLE self into doing their job without waste or waffling I will be happy.
2013-02-22 12:14:03 PM
1 votes:

DesertMP: Damn....there's just no way to hate him in a non-racist kind of way!


You could try just disagreeing with him, and leaving the hate out of it entirely.

SquiggsIN: most of them are good at their jobs and honest men and women.


This is a nice sentiment, but it turns into "almost none" when you stop including the cops-who-know-about-crooked-cops-but-don't-report-them in the "honest" category.  Sorry, but they're all just as dirty.  Nothing good they might do on the job makes up for allowing others to poison the integrity of the entire profession.

gja: Also, he is far too free and easy with money we haven't even printed yet.
Our kids will bear the brunt of this.


Oh please.

Stimulus to jumpstart failing economy/instituting the first step toward national healthcare = far too free and easy with money
Starting a pointless, trillion dollar war based on false intelligence, while cutting taxes on the already fabulously rich = A-OK?

This is the kind of "take the beam out of your own eye" stuff that makes it hard to take most criticism of Obama seriously.  I support the guy, and I think he has a lot of things to answer for.  But adding a couple of drops to the torrential downpour of sniveling, greedy, incompetent governance that the GOP has perpetrated during my lifetime ain't #1 on the list.   Our kids will bear the brunt... of the last 30 years of farked up "conservative" economic policy.  Slashing the education budget, corporate personhood, regressive taxes, unchecked sub-prime lending,Glass Steagall, Citizens United... you can't possibly think we were on the right track before Obama showed up.  You think he, all by himself, knocked us off the rails of success?  Come on.  Get real.
2013-02-22 11:53:26 AM
1 votes:
Alphax:  I'm guessing that there just may be some racist cops out there.

When someone threatens the POTUS, and he's not only the first one of color, but also the most centrist, mild, and scandal-free president we've ever had.. very few other motivations come to mind.


Yeah... pretty much. I used to think racism was on it's way out 'til Obama became president. Didn't take long for the closet racists to come out of the woodwork. I'm not talking about rational discourse... I'm talking about people I had previously thought were fairly normal now spouting off crazy, crazy shiat about Obama quite literally being the antichrist... comparing him to Hitler... Editing Obama's speeches to make it sound like he's saying something totally the opposite of what he actually said. And you can send them unedited video that proves them wrong beyond any shadow of a doubt, and they still don't have the sense to stop.

Meanwhile, there are roughly 4800 Americans now in the ground and many more thousands with debilitating injuries directly as a result of Dubya's choice to go to war with Iraq. Not to mention the crushing debt of an unnecessary war.

I'm not saying Obama doesn't have his faults, but seriously... Does anyone enjoygetting royally farked over by their healthcare provider? Does any sane individual really need an AK-47 to hunt? These are the things that make them yell "pinko!!!" "communist!!!"... Really? Most of them don't even know WTF a communist is... I read a comment from some dork that said Obama was a communist like Adolf Hitler. Go read up on Hitler... He was an evil asshole, but a commie Hitler wasn't. Fact is, Hitler was very much an anti-commie. It was one of the things Hitler crusaded against.

This is why people with more than one functioning brain cell can't take you guys seriously.

Flame away. Down deep, you know I'm right.
2013-02-22 11:49:48 AM
1 votes:
randomjsa:It's a crime to threaten the president. Then again it's a crime to make a threat period.

Unless, of course you're a police officer.

A civilian would have been Gitmoed for this, but the two Officers involved just temporarily lose their jobs.
2013-02-22 11:48:05 AM
1 votes:
Oh, so that's what it takes to get fired from that gang of street thugs.
2013-02-22 10:17:50 AM
1 votes:

King Something: rev. dave: Anytime you fire an officer for reporting real criminal actions of other officers, you reinforce that police do not follow the same laws.  This creates both a chilling effect on whistleblowers and a free license for officers to get out of hand.

And cops wonder why people hate them.

/Chris Dorner died for our sins


The officer told a CBS 6 reporter that on Tuesday he was terminated from the department, later learning that it was because of his interview with CBS, which the department said was in violation of its policy.

Next time, try reading the article first.
2013-02-22 10:08:14 AM
1 votes:

Z-clipped: You'd think.  On the other hand, TWO people discussing it indicates a conspiracy, possibly of unknown extent.  If they were serious about doing it, they probably wouldn't hesitate to kill a guy who had evidence against them.  And you never know who is friends with whom across organizations when they occupy the same geographical territory like this.  I admit it's a little far-fetched, but he could have felt that going to the media was the only safe way to get the information out.  Imagine if you'd called someone at the Secret Service and they said "OK, we'll handle it", and then you never heard anything else about it.  Wouldn't you have an itch between your shoulder blades for quite a while after that?


Seeing as how the Secret Service has a very specific job there, it's reasonable to assume that if you never heard anything else about it, it's because they're doing something that they would prefer nobody hear about until it's done. Maybe by going to the media, you're farking up an investigation. Maybe you're blowing somebody's cover.

If the conspiracy comes to fruition and/or you have reason to believe that the Secret Service is failing the public, then yeah, you have a good reason to go to the media. Short of that, you're just kind of an AW blasting your employer's business over the airwaves, and you really can't be too indignant when you get fired.
2013-02-22 10:07:55 AM
1 votes:
Has not yet been fired for blowing his whistle
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2013-02-22 09:24:30 AM
1 votes:

SquiggsIN: I still will never understand the "one drop" analysis of race.  President Obama is just as white as he is black.


And yet, I bet I have an easier time hailing a cab.
2013-02-22 08:29:24 AM
1 votes:

farkmedown: I'll grant the first of color and maybe the most scandal-free, but centrist or mild? No


As far as gays in the military, DOMA, etc you are right.

When it comes to taxes, immigration, etc is close to reagan (further to the right than Ronnie actually).

Republicans being swept up in teatard policies doesn't make Obama's policies less centrist.
2013-02-22 07:53:54 AM
1 votes:

penthesilea: FlashHarry: what kind of sick farking cop threatens the president?

I'm guessing that there just may be some racist cops out there.


Just one thing. You don't have to be racist to hate Obama. You can hate him on his actions alone. Not because of his race.
2013-02-22 07:53:25 AM
1 votes:

Farce-Side: It's clear the cop got fired for going to the press, not for whistleblowing.  If he had indeed reported it to the proper authorities in the chain of command, then there was probably an active investigation.  What are cops supposed to say to the media about an active investigation?  "No comment."  You leave that to the department spokesperson.  If he hadn't reported it to the chain of command, well, then he's just an AW.


He should have gone to the secret service instead.

"Investigations" that involve other cops have a tendency to go nowhere.
2013-02-22 07:07:58 AM
1 votes:
It's a thin blue line between psychopathy and sociopathy.
2013-02-22 07:00:13 AM
1 votes:
It's clear the cop got fired for going to the press, not for whistleblowing.  If he had indeed reported it to the proper authorities in the chain of command, then there was probably an active investigation.  What are cops supposed to say to the media about an active investigation?  "No comment."  You leave that to the department spokesperson.  If he hadn't reported it to the chain of command, well, then he's just an AW.
2013-02-22 06:49:28 AM
1 votes:

Nadie_AZ: Sorry, I disliked Bush, but I never wanted him shot or killed.


Of course not.   Then we would have been stuck with Cheney.
2013-02-22 06:47:01 AM
1 votes:

FlashHarry: what kind of sick farking cop threatens the president?


the kind that most people here on Fark white knight?
2013-02-22 06:01:06 AM
1 votes:

Babwa Wawa: rev. dave: 

I'm not cop defender, but the guy was fired for giving an interview to the press, not for being a whistleblower.


Oh, and apparently Virginia has its own statute for state employees that looks, in my layman's opinion, like this cop has a clear cut case against his department.
2013-02-22 04:42:06 AM
1 votes:

rev. dave: Anytime you fire an officer for reporting real criminal actions of other officers, you reinforce that police do not follow the same laws.  This creates both a chilling effect on whistleblowers and a free license for officers to get out of hand.


TFA:  The officer told a CBS 6 reporter that on Tuesday he was terminated from the department, later learning that it was because of his interview with CBS, which the department said was in violation of its policy.

I'm not cop defender, but the guy was fired for giving an interview to the press, not for being a whistleblower.
2013-02-22 02:13:01 AM
1 votes:
I have a second cousin, originally from southwest Missouri, who became a cop, and is currently with the Arkansas State Highway Patrol.. I've heard indirectly through my sister that he's said some pretty nasty things about President Obama.
2013-02-22 12:21:56 AM
1 votes:
The blue wall strikes again.
2013-02-21 11:30:34 PM
1 votes:
Pretty sure you can't be fired for reporting what could be an assassination attempt on the president.

Whatever he got fired for it wasn't whistleblowing, and the POS article doesn't say.
2013-02-21 10:04:09 PM
1 votes:

FlashHarry: what kind of sick farking cop threatens the president?


I'm guessing that there just may be some racist cops out there.
 
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