brerrabbit: Lord Jubjub: I was a legal resident of Kansas throughout my army tenure.  Have there been legal changes in the last 20 years?

No, but there are a lot of states playing games trying to force servicemen to change their residence for tax and retirement purposes.

Connecticut, I'm looking at you.

I am thinking this should be tackled at state level, Rick Snyder I am looking at you.  We sure honor vets from MI for a lot of things, but to let their service affect their education is lacking elementary understanding.  You can have a veteran license plate, but pay like an outsider, wait what?

/I will watch this, my oldest is considering this young man's path

FARK Michigan.

We should rename her lake, out of spite.

Lake Idaho, I say!

AirForceVet: I was a Florida resident for 20+ years in the Air Force for voting and tax purposes. Something about Michigan smells funny.

States are incredibly strapped for money, that's why.

AirForceVet: GAT_00: AirForceVet: I was a Florida resident for 20+ years in the Air Force for voting and tax purposes. Something about Michigan smells funny.

States are incredibly strapped for money, that's why.

I'm not too sure. I'm not going to research Michigan law concerning military service and state residency. But, I am curious if we're not seeing the whole back story.

Florida's cool about maintaining one's residency while on active duty. I'm not certain Michigan is SO tight for money, it would screw over its own state residents in the military during wartime (Iraq's done but Afghanistan is still ongoing). Politically, it's not smart.

Of course, in 2002, the GOP Congress and Bush II cut military members Social Security benefits, a little factoid I found today on www.ssa.gov.So, maybe the politicians slipped something by that most state residents didn't catch.Like SO many Americans who allegedly support their military by putting yellow ribbon magnets on their SUVs but still vote Republican.

Why shouldn't they? They're screwing over every other resident in that state that isn't rich, why not people serving? They know the media won't make it a story, and most of the money will get comped through the GI bill. So why not get more money?

Pokey.Clyde: AirForceVet: As someone who enlisted when enlisting in the military wasn't cool, i.e. post-Vietnam, blow me.

As someone who doesn't think you're entitled to special treatment just because you chose to join the military, go fark yourself.

I hope your last thought in life is, "I wish a soldier was here to save me."

AirForceVet: I'm not too sure. I'm not going to research Michigan law concerning military service and state residency. But, I am curious if we're not seeing the whole back story.

Florida's cool about maintaining one's residency while on active duty. I'm not certain Michigan is SO tight for money, it would screw over its own state residents in the military during wartime (Iraq's done but Afghanistan is still ongoing). Politically, it's not smart.

This could also be the university attempting to maximize the amount of tuition money that they get out of the Post 9/11 GI bill.

Honestly I am shocked at how much public, in state tuitions have gone up in the last few years.

Dear America

Ever.  Single.  F*cking.  Thing. that involves corporations, medicine, insurance, education or investing, all of it, is now just a series of bear traps, bait and switch malarkey and fine print.

All of it.

The church is being remodeled.  Try not to step on the whores, the lawyers or the crack pipes

AirForceVet: I was a Florida resident for 20+ years in the Air Force for voting and tax purposes. Something about Michigan smells funny.

My assumption was (and still is - the article doesn't say otherwise) that the subject of this article changed his residency to Florida for exactly those purposes, but then started crying when he realized that he can't have his cake and eat it too (claim residency in Florida as well as in-state tuition in Michigan).

Philbb: I really would like to know. I have a son and a son-in-law in the service now and I'd like to know if I've given them bad advice. My googleing isn't finding anything that would indicate it had. Unless the service member did something that would change his legal residency.

I looked up California's policy, it has the line, 'Documentation of California as the home state of record as required by the military'

AirForceVet: Something about Michigan smells funny

But the trees are at least the right height .

Enigmamf: AirForceVet: I was a Florida resident for 20+ years in the Air Force for voting and tax purposes. Something about Michigan smells funny.

My assumption was (and still is - the article doesn't say otherwise) that the subject of this article changed his residency to Florida for exactly those purposes, but then started crying when he realized that he can't have his cake and eat it too (claim residency in Florida as well as in-state tuition in Michigan).

It sounds fishy to me too.  For one thing, wherever you graduate highschool, you are automatically grandfathered into in-state tuition in that state... so I guess he didnt attend HS in michigan?

Also.. GI bill wut?

Also, my theory about in-state tuition is that every public university should charge the difference between in-state tuition and out-of-state tuition to a special loan against which taxes paid are credited.

For example, the University of California costs $23,000 extra for out-of-state students. If you graduate in 4 years, you would accumulate a debt of $92,000. You get an upper-middle income job ($70,000/year, say), and pay $2500 a year in income taxes; deduct that. You're assumed to spend 25% of your income on taxable goods, so you deduct another $1400. Soon you buy a home, and start deducting property taxes as well; deduct another $3000/year. After a decade or so, you're free and clear of that debt, without having to ever pay a penny of it. The only cost is that you become a resident of that state.

bunner:
Ever. Single. F*cking. Thing. that involves corporations, medicine, insurance, education or investing, all of it, is now just a series of bear traps, bait and switch malarkey and fine print.

Hey, there's a reason the top 0.1% of America reaped 120% of the gains from the latest economic recovery (ie. the rest of the country ended up worse off).

Popcorn Johnny: Enigmamf: My assumption was (and still is - the article doesn't say otherwise) that the subject of this article changed his residency to Florida for exactly those purposes, but then started crying when he realized that he can't have his cake and eat it too (claim residency in Florida as well as in-state tuition in Michigan).

Why would you make an assumption that he changed his residency from Michigan? I spent 8 years in the Army, from Michigan by the way, and never once thought about changing my residence. I went in with a Michigan drivers license and came out with one. I don't remember ever hearing one person mention changing their state of residence for tax or any other purpose. We got some pretty sweet tax breaks anyways, there would be no reason to change your home state.

Maybe it depends on the branch - I live very close to a Marine base, and it seems like a greatly disproportionate number of cars to what you would expect in California (a state where you must normally register the car within 14 days of moving here) carry Florida plates.

OgreMagi: I hope your last thought in life is, "I wish a soldier was here to save me."

Like all the soldiers who die thinking "I wish a doctor was here to save me"?

So basically, someone in Michigan was robbed. How is this newsworthy or surprising to anyone?