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2013-02-21 02:06:13 PM  
Horseshiat. Smoking, even in your early years, not only threatens your health directly, but also amplifies any other medical conditions you may have and makes them worse.
 
2013-02-21 02:10:04 PM  

gopher321: Horseshiat. Smoking, even in your early years, not only threatens your health directly, but also amplifies any other medical conditions you may have and makes them worse.


Sorry, idiot, but the TODAY SHOW said it's OK to smoke. And the TODAY SHOW doesn't lie
 
2013-02-21 02:11:01 PM  
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Risk analysis does not work that way.
 
2013-02-21 02:11:16 PM  
For the Record, the Today Show has also hosted one Depak Chopra, who despite being a "doctor", wants people to believe that positive thought and his 19.99 dollar product can help YOU live a disease free life.

Taking medical advice from the Today Show is like taking relationship advice from a FARK Rape thread.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-02-21 02:11:41 PM  
This also works for sin.
 
2013-02-21 02:11:48 PM  

gopher321: Horseshiat. Smoking, even in your early years, not only threatens your health directly, but also amplifies any other medical conditions you may have and makes them worse.


Since I quit smoking, my psoriasis has gotten a lot worse. And now that it's spread to new areas, I'll always have it there. Thanks, health.
 
2013-02-21 02:12:30 PM  

gopher321: Horseshiat. Smoking, even in your early years, not only threatens your health directly, but also amplifies any other medical conditions you may have and makes them worse.


But it makes you look so cool!
 
2013-02-21 02:12:32 PM  
ITT: People denigrating the today show without clicking the link.

/Not that it doesn't deserve it.
//Just not for this reason.
 
2013-02-21 02:12:54 PM  
Crap, overshot by 5 years.  Oh well.
 
2013-02-21 02:13:10 PM  

sxacho: Since I quit smoking, my psoriasis has gotten a lot worse. And now that it's spread to new areas, I'll always have it there. Thanks, health.


Look deep into my ass.

sharetv.org
 
2013-02-21 02:14:39 PM  
SMOKE!

deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-21 02:15:47 PM  
Even if this were true, the anti smoking lobby would never let the information become common knowledge.
 
2013-02-21 02:15:50 PM  
Damn!  I could have smoked for 4 more years.....
 
2013-02-21 02:16:50 PM  
Ocular cancer brought about by second-hand smoke appears to have affected subby's reading comprehension.
 
2013-02-21 02:16:59 PM  
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2013-02-21 02:18:27 PM  

sxacho: gopher321: Horseshiat. Smoking, even in your early years, not only threatens your health directly, but also amplifies any other medical conditions you may have and makes them worse.

Since I quit smoking, my psoriasis has gotten a lot worse. And now that it's spread to new areas, I'll always have it there. Thanks, health.


Possibly due to immunosuppressant qualities of smoking? Drinking makes it worse too because of the inflammatory properties of alcohol.
 
2013-02-21 02:18:33 PM  
Or.... never start smoking in the first place, so you never have to go through the arduous process of quitting.

Just saying.
 
2013-02-21 02:18:46 PM  

gopher321: Horseshiat. Smoking, even in your early years, not only threatens your health directly, but also amplifies any other medical conditions you may have and makes them worse.


Walking down the sidewalk and inhaling car exhaust regularly also does that. Not to mention inhaling what factories routinely pump into the air.
 
2013-02-21 02:18:57 PM  
Having a hard time breaking the habit? Download Quitpal (free for IOS), a new app from the National Cancer Institute. Among other features, it helps you track the money you're saving and connects you with social media networks so friends can help you stay on track.

Show them what their lungs look like.
 
2013-02-21 02:19:30 PM  
FTFA:  (Even if you don't smoke, click here to find out 5 Ways You Shorten Your Life Every Day.)

Beautiful.
 
2013-02-21 02:20:32 PM  
. . .  but they didn't study all the smokers who didn't make it to 44?
 
2013-02-21 02:20:44 PM  
Yeah, perfectly fine except for my COPD.

/43 quit tobacco 8 years ago
 
2013-02-21 02:22:09 PM  

BronyMedic: For the Record, the Today Show has also hosted one Depak Chopra, who despite being a "doctor", wants people to believe that positive thought and his 19.99 dollar product can help YOU live a disease free life.

Taking medical advice from the Today Show is like taking relationship advice from a FARK Rape thread.


Hm. Well, for me... that explains a lot.
 
2013-02-21 02:22:26 PM  
I quit cold turkey (and cigarettes) at age 49, mainly because it seemed like it would be really depressing to be still smoking when I was 50. (How's THAT for a rationalization?)

However, I started after college and never went through more than half a pack a day and I kept up an exercise routine. Figure that one out, TODAY show experts.
 
2013-02-21 02:23:12 PM  
Though it doesn't say that you can smoke consequence free until you're 44, it does say that if you quit before then, your chances of living -nearly- as long of a life as a non-smoker are greatly increased, which is good encouragement for those of us that made the mistake of picking up the habit when we were younger.

It amazes me how people are quick to dismiss research published by the New England Journal of Medicine and the University of Toronto because either it (a) conflicts with their indoctrination; (b) is re-reported by a show they don't like or (c) a combination of both.

No, smoking isn't good for you. Nobody is saying it is. However, it is also not a guaranteed death sentence, and I welcome anything that confirms that if you did make a mistake earlier in life that you shouldn't just say "aw fark it, I'm going to die anyway...might as well keep on smoking".

/Quit at 38, thanks E-Go!
 
2013-02-21 02:23:22 PM  

Fark Rye For Many Whores: [shrineodreams.files.wordpress.com image 278x208]


www.the-filmreel.com

On the case.
/obscure?
 
2013-02-21 02:24:11 PM  
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2013-02-21 02:24:57 PM  
Tell that to the 17 year old with lung cancer.
 
2013-02-21 02:25:16 PM  
Bullshiat! Smoking provides essential vitamins and healthly amino acids to help develope your lungs in combating air pollutants, such as car fumes and halitosis.

Without smoking, you get cancer from daily pollution and your workmates bad breath.

Scientific fact.
 
2013-02-21 02:25:47 PM  
click here to find out 5 Ways You Shorten Your Life Every Day

*click*

-2 hours just for being male

Then fark it.  I'm doing the other 4, too.
 
2013-02-21 02:26:34 PM  
Do you really want to live to your second childhood, diapers and all?  I think we should encourage all unhealthy behavior because there are too many of us on theis planet anyway.

/You gotta light?
 
2013-02-21 02:26:48 PM  
blog.timesunion.com

9 out of 10 doctors recommend not smoking, but 1 out of 10 doctors is a really cool guy just kicking back with a relaxing smoke.
 
2013-02-21 02:27:07 PM  
My grandmother started smoking when she was about 14 (she grew-up in North Carolina working the tobacco fields, so it was probably mandatory) she quit when she was 84 and died at 88.  The doctor said that smoking definitely contributed to her death.  My father started smoking when he was sixteen and died at 62 from heart disease and a massive hear attack.  So you never know.
 
2013-02-21 02:27:30 PM  

kiwimoogle84: Or.... never start smoking in the first place, so you never have to go through the arduous process of quitting.

Just saying.


That's some great advice.  Got a time machine?  No?  Then STFU.

:)
 
2013-02-21 02:27:34 PM  

GungFu: Bullshiat! Smoking provides essential vitamins and healthly amino acids to help develope your lungs in combating air pollutants, such as car fumes and halitosis.

Without smoking, you get cancer from daily pollution and your workmates bad breath.

Scientific fact.


Sadly, some people actually aren't kidding when they say this, and are paid very, very well by Cigarette Companies to ensure this is the line of bullshiat the American Public is fed.

Back in the 1970s and 1980s, when there was major controversy over if Cigarette sales should be heavily restricted or banned because of their health effects, things like this and paid-for false studies were the norm for these guys.
 
2013-02-21 02:27:49 PM  
My grandfather smoked a lot (I'm told).  I never met him because he died of throat cancer when he was just 46 years old.  If only someone would have gotten him the memo.
 
2013-02-21 02:29:11 PM  

Rapmaster2000: [blog.timesunion.com image 348x321]

9 out of 10 doctors recommend not smoking, but 1 out of 10 doctors is a really cool guy just kicking back with a relaxing smoke.


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2013-02-21 02:29:23 PM  
Unless you've already died of emphysema by then.

/quit 6 years ago
//might start up again once if I hit 80 cuz fark it
 
2013-02-21 02:30:38 PM  
Cardrack Jim:

Yeah, perfectly fine except for my COPD.

/43 quit tobacco 8 years ago


I was getting there when I quit at 37 in 2000: my asthma was so bad I couldn't climb a flight of stairs without getting winded and every year for 6 years I had bronchitis for ~6 months. 2 packs of unfiltered a day for 25 years can do that.

Then one day I wasn't spending $7-10 on smoking so I could afford to eat and drink. My weight's gone up 20# since then and I've been drinking every night for about 7 years. Oh well, that doesn't stop me from walking the dogs about 20 miles a week.
 
2013-02-21 02:30:51 PM  
Well hell. I'm 44. Decisions, decisions.
 
2013-02-21 02:31:18 PM  

kiwimoogle84: Or.... never start smoking in the first place, so you never have to go through the arduous process of quitting.

Just saying.


tell me about it - I didn't start until my mid 20s and now in my later 30s I want to quit, but it is freaking hard. I am glad I never tried meth
 
2013-02-21 02:31:31 PM  
czthomas.files.wordpress.com

Fark you, science. I'm 25 and I'll smoke till I'm done!
 
2013-02-21 02:34:00 PM  
 
2013-02-21 02:34:30 PM  
People who quit smoking by age 44 tend to live nearly as long as those who never smoked

My dad died from lung cancer at 75. Since the average age at death for American males is 78, I guess it's technically true that he lived nearly as long as those who never smoke. His doctor told him that the specific type of cancer he had is never seen in non-smokers, so he got it from the ciggies he smoked from age 17 to 29. He never smoked after that.

/I smoked from age 20 to about 28
//hope I don't get the Big C
 
2013-02-21 02:34:33 PM  
Woot!  3 more years of nicotine!!!
 
2013-02-21 02:34:45 PM  
I would like to quit smoking but everyone within arms reach of me would suffer a horrible death.

/stressed
 
2013-02-21 02:34:48 PM  

Huck And Molly Ziegler: I quit cold turkey (and cigarettes) at age 49, mainly because it seemed like it would be really depressing to be still smoking when I was 50. (How's THAT for a rationalization?)


I quit at 50 because....well, just because.
 
2013-02-21 02:36:38 PM  
I quit about 12 1/2 years ago, at age 29, before the birth of my first child.  I haven't touched tobacco since, with the exception of a Cuban cigar while out of the country, on two separate occasions, both about 5-7 years ago.  And I won't be doing that again either because, frankly, I don't like cigars very much and never did.

After several unsuccessful attempts with the patch, the gum and gradual phase-outs, what finally worked for me was good old-fashioned painful cold turkey.  I knew I had turned the corner when I was no longer regularly counting the days since my last cigarette.  I still occasionally have dreams where I'm smoking (yeah yeah, phallic symbol, ha ha) but I'm not going to be allowing myself any of those "just this once" exceptions.

Of course, at today's prices, that's plenty of incentive not to get started again...
 
2013-02-21 02:37:16 PM  
stupiddream:

Do you really want to live to your second childhood, diapers and all?  I think we should encourage all unhealthy behavior because there are too many of us on theis planet anyway.

I agree in general, but the unhealthy behavior should make you feel better. Bronchitis, asthma and incipient emphysema doesn't qualify.

But I took up eating & boozing to replace it.

And I've always been a fan of hot sex with crazy women.

AHEM. I said "I've always been a fan of hot sex with crazy women."

You hear that, KY Farkettes?
 
2013-02-21 02:38:40 PM  

Super Chronic: I still occasionally have dreams where I'm smoking


Do you get pissed at yourself?  I have those dreams, and while I am still dreaming I get mad at myself for smoking.  It's weird.
 
2013-02-21 02:38:52 PM  
Same rule applies to women and anonymous sex with me
 
2013-02-21 02:38:54 PM  

gopher321: Horseshiat. Smoking, even in your early years, not only threatens your health directly, but also amplifies any other medical conditions you may have and makes them worse.


My medical condition back then was excellent health, which must explain why I'm so awesome today.

/quit at 40
//now on wrong side of 50
///smoking ANYTHING is BAD FOR YOU
 
2013-02-21 02:39:33 PM  

Super Chronic: I quit about 12 1/2 years ago, at age 29...


*notes user name*

Dude...we're talking cigarettes here, not pot.

/;^)
 
2013-02-21 02:40:06 PM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: I would like to quit smoking but everyone within arms reach of me would suffer a horrible death.

/stressed


I like to tell people that I smoke for their health.
 
2013-02-21 02:40:41 PM  

sxacho: gopher321: Horseshiat. Smoking, even in your early years, not only threatens your health directly, but also amplifies any other medical conditions you may have and makes them worse.

Since I quit smoking, my psoriasis has gotten a lot worse. And now that it's spread to new areas, I'll always have it there. Thanks, health.


Coal tar is one of the treatments for psoriasis, so there may be something to that.

Of course you may also have a nasty food allergy, like to eggs, for example.
 
2013-02-21 02:41:46 PM  

Genju: sxacho: gopher321: Horseshiat. Smoking, even in your early years, not only threatens your health directly, but also amplifies any other medical conditions you may have and makes them worse.

Since I quit smoking, my psoriasis has gotten a lot worse. And now that it's spread to new areas, I'll always have it there. Thanks, health.

Possibly due to immunosuppressant qualities of smoking? Drinking makes it worse too because of the inflammatory properties of alcohol.


I dunno. I've actually not been drinking nearly as much since I've quit, as I quit cigarettes because I can't afford them.

I don't really blame quitting the cigs, I blame the stress involved in being broke, as well as the cigarette withdrawal stress. But who knows? Psoriasis is one of those things that just sort of "happens" sometimes, to some people, for some reason. And is incurable.
 
2013-02-21 02:42:01 PM  
Think my aunt was in her early 30s when she died from cancer brought on (according to the docs back then) by her smoking habit.  Needless to say, my parents quit almost immediately thereafter.  So, yeah, there is some risk at not stopping prior to 44.  There's a whole lot less risk not starting in the first place.

/ besides, that leaves more money for beer video games strippers investments
 
2013-02-21 02:42:12 PM  

Neruos: Tell that to the 17 year old with lung cancer.


They shouldn't have inhaled all those diesel fumes then.  Diesel fumes are highly carcinogenic.
 
2013-02-21 02:43:11 PM  

The Muthaship: Super Chronic: I still occasionally have dreams where I'm smoking

Do you get pissed at yourself?  I have those dreams, and while I am still dreaming I get mad at myself for smoking.  It's weird.


I don't know if "pissed" is the word.  There's a definite sense of "I'm supposed to have quit, and here I go again."  But it's uncomfortable, yeah.
 
2013-02-21 02:46:41 PM  

Super Chronic: The Muthaship: Super Chronic: I still occasionally have dreams where I'm smoking

Do you get pissed at yourself?  I have those dreams, and while I am still dreaming I get mad at myself for smoking.  It's weird.

I don't know if "pissed" is the word.  There's a definite sense of "I'm supposed to have quit, and here I go again."  But it's uncomfortable, yeah.


You think that's uncomfortable?  You should try dreaming about having sex with a hated ex-wife.  You'll wake up in a cold sweat.
 
2013-02-21 02:54:49 PM  

sxacho: Genju: sxacho: gopher321: Horseshiat. Smoking, even in your early years, not only threatens your health directly, but also amplifies any other medical conditions you may have and makes them worse.

Since I quit smoking, my psoriasis has gotten a lot worse. And now that it's spread to new areas, I'll always have it there. Thanks, health.

Possibly due to immunosuppressant qualities of smoking? Drinking makes it worse too because of the inflammatory properties of alcohol.

I dunno. I've actually not been drinking nearly as much since I've quit, as I quit cigarettes because I can't afford them.

I don't really blame quitting the cigs, I blame the stress involved in being broke, as well as the cigarette withdrawal stress. But who knows? Psoriasis is one of those things that just sort of "happens" sometimes, to some people, for some reason. And is incurable.


I know. I've had it since a kid. It was only on the ankle as a kid. Woke up one morning at 25 and had a big mark on my scalp line on the forehead. Then the whole scalp under my hair. Then one on the stomach. then one on both legs. Then the elbows. Behind the ears....

I took immunosuppressants (Embrel) for 6 months. I was constantly sick with colds, flu, etc. It also halts your body's natural inflammatory response, which means even if I barely nicked myself on the hand not paying attention, the cut would last for weeks without showing much sign of healing. It did however get rid of the forehead and stomach sores. When I started exercising rigorously, one of the leg ones went away. All the rest have remained all 5 years so far...

/the worst part about it for me... the one in under my hair on the scalp. It looks like dandruff :(
 
2013-02-21 02:57:02 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Super Chronic: The Muthaship: Super Chronic: I still occasionally have dreams where I'm smoking

Do you get pissed at yourself?  I have those dreams, and while I am still dreaming I get mad at myself for smoking.  It's weird.

I don't know if "pissed" is the word.  There's a definite sense of "I'm supposed to have quit, and here I go again."  But it's uncomfortable, yeah.

You think that's uncomfortable?  You should try dreaming about having sex with a hated ex-wife.  You'll wake up in a cold sweat.


I'm 50, and I *still* sometimes dream about sex with the GF I had in highschool.

..and, irritatingly enough, occasionally about the ex-wife as well.

/please, won't some hottie think of my dreams?
 
2013-02-21 03:00:00 PM  
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if you quit at any point of your life, you have a better chance of being healthier than if you continue smoking.

I'm not a doctor. I'm sure someone thought my fresh idea came from someone with an MD and decades of clinical research and peer reviewed study.
 
2013-02-21 03:00:47 PM  

stupiddream: Do you really want to live to your second childhood, diapers and all?  I think we should encourage all unhealthy behavior because there are too many of us on theis planet anyway.

/You gotta light?


I agree around 80 is long enough to live for most people.   After that even those who don't smoke are starting to seriously go down hill and yes I know there are exceptions.  Also most people do not save enough money  to live much longer without being in poverty,  which would make ones life pretty miserable.

I'm not saying you should smoke but we need to stop pretending that living for ever is a good thing.    I'm fully planning on living my life until I get to the stage whereby I'm seriously considering cat food for dinner and then bumping myself off.  That will probably be 10 years after my retirement at 80.
 
2013-02-21 03:01:41 PM  

tylerdurden217: I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if you quit at any point of your life, you have a better chance of being healthier than if you continue smoking.

I'm not a doctor. I'm sure someone thought my fresh idea came from someone with an MD and decades of clinical research and peer reviewed study.


IIRC, after one month you've decreased your risk of a heart attack by 50% just by quitting smoking, and improved functional lung capacity greatly.
 
2013-02-21 03:06:28 PM  

Huck And Molly Ziegler: I quit cold turkey (and cigarettes) at age 49, mainly because it seemed like it would be really depressing to be still smoking when I was 50. (How's THAT for a rationalization?)

However, I started after college and never went through more than half a pack a day and I kept up an exercise routine.


Same here on most of that.  Last smoke was 27 days ago.  So far, not so bad.  Morning runs no easier though, how soon before I notice a difference?
 
2013-02-21 03:08:44 PM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: So far, not so bad.  Morning runs no easier though, how soon before I notice a difference?


My breathing actually got worse for probably 60-90 days, then improved greatly.

/morning runs suck for everyone;)
 
2013-02-21 03:13:01 PM  

stupiddream: Do you really want to live to your second childhood, diapers and all?  I think we should encourage all unhealthy behavior because there are too many of us on theis planet anyway.

/You gotta light?


I would agree if you could mainline nicotine. I don't wanna hafta smell your stinky clothes, hair, car, or breath. Unprotected anal sex with multiple partners seems more effective and is definitely less smelly.
 
2013-02-21 03:18:55 PM  
These studies always ring so untrue to me. Live longer than whom, exactly? Dad smoked to 61, roughly 45 years. Died of liver cancer at 80. Mom never touched them, ate well, drank moderately. Died if liver cancer at 72 (something in the water? We had a well. Never did find out).
Anyway, point being, people live long and short lives with very little consistent explanation as to why.
/I smoked my last cigarette at 10:30 am yesterday. On the patch and I'm staying done this time. //Dammit.
 
2013-02-21 03:19:20 PM  

Just another Heartland Weirdass: I would agree if you could mainline nicotine. I don't wanna hafta smell your stinky clothes, hair, car, or breath. Unprotected anal sex with multiple partners seems more effective and is definitely less smelly.


Pure nicotine is one of the most toxic substances known to man.

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It's a neurotoxin, which works on the cholinergic receptors of your body, producing what's known as the nicotinic toxidrome.
 
2013-02-21 03:20:11 PM  

Neruos: Tell that to the 17 year old with lung cancer.


Or the athlete who died of a heart attack at 20!  You shouldn't exercise it can cause you to DIE!!! DIE I SAY!
 
2013-02-21 03:22:07 PM  

BronyMedic: Just another Heartland Weirdass: I would agree if you could mainline nicotine. I don't wanna hafta smell your stinky clothes, hair, car, or breath. Unprotected anal sex with multiple partners seems more effective and is definitely less smelly.

Pure nicotine is one of the most toxic substances known to man.



It's a neurotoxin, which works on the cholinergic receptors of your body, producing what's known as the nicotinic toxidrome.


Gimme a bottle of that shiat and a Q-tip; STAT.
 
2013-02-21 03:23:14 PM  
Yeah?

Tell that to my dad.  He died at 41 from smoking the god damned things.  Yeah, I'm still pissed about it; every once in a while I'd like to talk to him.  farking cigarettes.
 
2013-02-21 03:23:30 PM  
bolstablog.files.wordpress.com

Disagrees.
 
2013-02-21 03:24:19 PM  
Heh, getting an extra kick out of this today:

llabmik.net

// Fark I'm old...
/// Halfway to 90 already :(
//// Where's my smokes? Oh, here they are...
// Slashies come in threes
// Wait, what?
 
2013-02-21 03:24:45 PM  

Hollywood Cole: Disagrees.


Hawt.
 
2013-02-21 03:28:32 PM  
Quit my three pack a day habit at 40,went cold turkey too,and I still miss it when drinking or with a cup of coffee.

Still smoke in my dreams,and its been more than 20 years.
 
2013-02-21 03:31:33 PM  

Klom Dark: Heh, getting an extra kick out of this today:

[llabmik.net image 850x462]

// Fark I'm old...
/// Halfway to 90 already :(
//// Where's my smokes? Oh, here they are...
// Slashies come in threes
// Wait, what?


Haha, I've got at least another decade of "safe smoking" *hack*

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Happy birthday. *Cough*
 
2013-02-21 03:33:09 PM  

Klom Dark: Heh, getting an extra kick out of this today:

[llabmik.net image 850x462]

// Fark I'm old...
/// Halfway to 90 already :(
//// Where's my smokes? Oh, here they are...
// Slashies come in threes
// Wait, what?


Happy Birthday!

And 45? Mid-life time. Go get you a Ferrari and a size two blonde bimbo to go with it!
 
2013-02-21 03:34:48 PM  
Wow! Another 2/21r!

Happy birthday back! :)

// Planning to quit tomorrow night, hoping it goes well.
 
2013-02-21 03:37:12 PM  

BronyMedic: Just another Heartland Weirdass: I would agree if you could mainline nicotine. I don't wanna hafta smell your stinky clothes, hair, car, or breath. Unprotected anal sex with multiple partners seems more effective and is definitely less smelly.

Pure nicotine is one of the most toxic substances known to man.



It's a neurotoxin, which works on the cholinergic receptors of your body, producing what's known as the nicotinic toxidrome.


So?
I want to encourage dangerous and potentially lethal behavior, and it appears that I did just that.
Also,
Botulinum toxin is THE most toxic substance known to man and it can be used in all sorts of medicines that are directly injected into you and even helps fight anal fissures. So fark yeah toxins!
 
2013-02-21 03:38:11 PM  
Carn:
//might start up again once if I hit 80 cuz fark it

Yes, if I don't think of it as quitting, but just waiting... That might be a good mindset.

// Then again, thinking about waiting 35 years until my next smoke? Yeahh, maybe not... :(
 
2013-02-21 03:38:31 PM  

Klom Dark: Planning to quit tomorrow night, hoping it goes well.


 FTA Those who quit by age 54 die just 4 years younger.


Those last few years suck anyway.
 
2013-02-21 03:39:37 PM  

Just another Heartland Weirdass: So?
I want to encourage dangerous and potentially lethal behavior, and it appears that I did just that.
Also,
Botulinum toxin is THE most toxic substance known to man and it can be used in all sorts of medicines that are directly injected into you and even helps fight anal fissures. So fark yeah toxins!


Ah, a fellow practical Darwinist! Huzzah!

It's all about dose, brother. All about dose.
 
2013-02-21 03:39:46 PM  
Marcus Aurelius:

You think that's uncomfortable?  You should try dreaming about having sex with a hated ex-wife.  You'll wake up in a cold sweat.

Or ex husband. I absolutely despise waking up from any dream he's in.  Unless it's one in which I get to maim him or something.  That might be alright.  But that's never happened yet.
 
2013-02-21 03:40:37 PM  

The Muthaship: Klom Dark: Planning to quit tomorrow night, hoping it goes well.

 FTA Those who quit by age 54 die just 4 years younger.


Those last few years suck anyway.


That's funny :)
 
2013-02-21 03:41:12 PM  

Hollywood Cole: [bolstablog.files.wordpress.com image 300x300]

Disagrees.


Bunch of obnoxious, self-righteous slugs. Don't take that wrong. I'd quit smoking if I didn't think I'd become one of you. I'm willing to die seven years before my time just so I'll be cool each last farkin' day.

Love me some Bill Hicks.
 
2013-02-21 03:45:14 PM  
I quit 15 years ago. I also stopped drinking coffee, as the two seem to work so well together. Was a biatch of a time; RX gave me patches, but I threw them away as I was trying to get the nicotine OUT of my system. After 1 year, I took up decaf; after 5 years I considered it safe enough to hit the occasional cigar.

/oh, and pot helps
 
2013-02-21 03:47:08 PM  

Just another Heartland Weirdass: BronyMedic: Just another Heartland Weirdass: I would agree if you could mainline nicotine. I don't wanna hafta smell your stinky clothes, hair, car, or breath. Unprotected anal sex with multiple partners seems more effective and is definitely less smelly.

Pure nicotine is one of the most toxic substances known to man.

It's a neurotoxin, which works on the cholinergic receptors of your body, producing what's known as the nicotinic toxidrome.

So?
I want to encourage dangerous and potentially lethal behavior, and it appears that I did just that.
Also,
Botulinum toxin is THE most toxic substance known to man and it can be used in all sorts of medicines that are directly injected into you and even helps fight anal fissures. So fark yeah toxins!


Unfortunately nicotine irritates the stomach something fierce when you try to ingest it. Skin absorption (like the patch already does anyway...) or injection would work well though. Just get some of that e-cig flavorless nicotine juice at 3.6% (36 mg nicotine per mL) and shoot it up. The reason why cigarettes are safer than this method, of course, is that it's almost impossible to OD on nicotine from regular cigarettes alone. I think it would take something like 40 cigarettes inside of an hour to even potentially kill a person who has some tolerance built up (i.e. a smoker). However if you soak the cigarettes in water.... oh never mind! Keep below 80 mg!
 
2013-02-21 03:48:54 PM  

sxacho: gopher321: Horseshiat. Smoking, even in your early years, not only threatens your health directly, but also amplifies any other medical conditions you may have and makes them worse.

Since I quit smoking, my psoriasis has gotten a lot worse. And now that it's spread to new areas, I'll always have it there. Thanks, health.


Psoriasis is caused by an overacitve immune system, your body was busy repairing the damage caused by smoking so psoriasis was kind of kept in check. Since you quit smoking the immune system is not busy repairing stuff so it flares up your psoriasis.
 
2013-02-21 03:52:59 PM  

GungFu: [czthomas.files.wordpress.com image 500x335]

Fark you, science. I'm 25 and I'll smoke till I'm done!



Whoa, Wilma Flintstone sure is looking old these days...
 
2013-02-21 03:53:06 PM  
Suuuure.

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-21 03:56:45 PM  

Super Chronic: The Muthaship: Super Chronic: I still occasionally have dreams where I'm smoking

Do you get pissed at yourself?  I have those dreams, and while I am still dreaming I get mad at myself for smoking.  It's weird.

I don't know if "pissed" is the word.  There's a definite sense of "I'm supposed to have quit, and here I go again."  But it's uncomfortable, yeah.


I get those too. And it's never a choice in the dream. I'm already smoking in that dream when it's starts and I notice and think WTF? Thought I quit!
/almost a year thanks to e-cigs but now I'm a fatass.
 
2013-02-21 03:57:00 PM  
llabmik.net
 
2013-02-21 03:57:09 PM  
Couple extra things to add on to my last post:

They do sell 10% (100 mg / mL) nicotine solutions. But seriously do not try to kill yourself with that shiat. There are much easier ways to go. Nicotine overdose is a similar death to hemlock poisoning which royally sucks. Imagine uncontrolled puking and shiatting while every muscle in your body screams in paralyzing pain simultaneously for 20-30 minutes before cardiac arrest.
 
2013-02-21 04:03:46 PM  

p the boiler: kiwimoogle84: Or.... never start smoking in the first place, so you never have to go through the arduous process of quitting.

Just saying.

tell me about it - I didn't start until my mid 20s and now in my later 30s I want to quit, but it is freaking hard. I am glad I never tried meth


Hey, I just happened to work for an oncology office in my early 20's. The kind of stuff I saw on a regular basis turned me off to smoking AND prolonged sun exposure for the rest of my life. (works for me, tattoos look better on fair skin)

I will tell you though, I was witness to a smoker aged 42 who had been smoking two packs a day since he was 18- and HE was able to wean himself down. He went from two packs to 1.5 packs, to 1 pack, to 6, to 3, and eventually had just one morning cigarette every morning for a week until he gave it up altogether. And he was a stubborn bastard. So if he could do it, you absolutely can.
 
2013-02-21 04:06:03 PM  

dj1s: Yeah?

Tell that to my dad.  He died at 41 from smoking the god damned things.  Yeah, I'm still pissed about it; every once in a while I'd like to talk to him.  farking cigarettes.


I feel your pain. Even though my dad died at 75 I was looking forward to retiring and getting live near and get to know him again. He was a really cool guy who treated us kids right all our lives, and I feel cheated that he was taken from me even then. Farking ciggies.
 
2013-02-21 04:07:36 PM  

addy2: Super Chronic: The Muthaship: Super Chronic: I still occasionally have dreams where I'm smoking

Do you get pissed at yourself?  I have those dreams, and while I am still dreaming I get mad at myself for smoking.  It's weird.

I don't know if "pissed" is the word.  There's a definite sense of "I'm supposed to have quit, and here I go again."  But it's uncomfortable, yeah.

I get those too. And it's never a choice in the dream. I'm already smoking in that dream when it's starts and I notice and think WTF? Thought I quit!
/almost a year thanks to e-cigs but now I'm a fatass.


I was already a fatass when I started E-cigs so I'm good...

/2.5 years for me.
 
2013-02-21 04:07:44 PM  
How else are you supposed to kill the bacteria if you swallow some apple seeds?
 
2013-02-21 04:07:56 PM  

Genju: They do sell 10% (100 mg / mL) nicotine solutions. But seriously do not try to kill yourself with that shiat. There are much easier ways to go. Nicotine overdose is a similar death to hemlock poisoning which royally sucks. Imagine uncontrolled puking and shiatting while every muscle in your body screams in paralyzing pain simultaneously for 20-30 minutes before cardiac arrest.


Well, guess I'll scratch that off my list of termination options (for when I get old and ready to die).
 
2013-02-21 04:08:04 PM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: I would like to quit smoking but everyone within arms reach of me would suffer a horrible death.

/stressed


And just for the record, I feel your pain on that one. The amount of stress in my life has tripled over the last six months. The kind of stress that binge drinking until you black out tends to help. But of course, since I discovered I was pregnant, I've had to deal with all of this crap sober. It hasn't been fun. I don't sleep much, let's just put it that way.
 
2013-02-21 04:29:24 PM  

Genju: Couple extra things to add on to my last post:

They do sell 10% (100 mg / mL) nicotine solutions. But seriously do not try to kill yourself with that shiat. There are much easier ways to go. Nicotine overdose is a similar death to hemlock poisoning which royally sucks. Imagine uncontrolled puking and shiatting while every muscle in your body screams in paralyzing pain simultaneously for 20-30 minutes before cardiac arrest.


What about massive amounts of cocaine, heroin, and whiskey all at the same time?  Oh and hookers.
 
2013-02-21 04:31:54 PM  

Klom Dark: [llabmik.net image 600x383]


Wat?
 
2013-02-21 04:35:19 PM  

Carn: Genju: Couple extra things to add on to my last post:

They do sell 10% (100 mg / mL) nicotine solutions. But seriously do not try to kill yourself with that shiat. There are much easier ways to go. Nicotine overdose is a similar death to hemlock poisoning which royally sucks. Imagine uncontrolled puking and shiatting while every muscle in your body screams in paralyzing pain simultaneously for 20-30 minutes before cardiac arrest.

What about massive amounts of cocaine, heroin, and whiskey all at the same time?  Oh and hookers.


I plan on a blow and viagra overdose while banging hookers If I ever need to off myself.
 
2013-02-21 04:37:03 PM  

Oldiron_79: I plan on a blow and viagra overdose while banging hookers If I ever need to off myself.


With my luck, I'd survive andget caught by the wife.
 
2013-02-21 04:37:30 PM  

Carn: Genju: Couple extra things to add on to my last post:

They do sell 10% (100 mg / mL) nicotine solutions. But seriously do not try to kill yourself with that shiat. There are much easier ways to go. Nicotine overdose is a similar death to hemlock poisoning which royally sucks. Imagine uncontrolled puking and shiatting while every muscle in your body screams in paralyzing pain simultaneously for 20-30 minutes before cardiac arrest.

What about massive amounts of cocaine, heroin, and whiskey all at the same time?  Oh and hookers.


I'm in.
 
2013-02-21 04:39:36 PM  

Psychopusher: addy2: Super Chronic: The Muthaship: Super Chronic: I still occasionally have dreams where I'm smoking

Do you get pissed at yourself?  I have those dreams, and while I am still dreaming I get mad at myself for smoking.  It's weird.

I don't know if "pissed" is the word.  There's a definite sense of "I'm supposed to have quit, and here I go again."  But it's uncomfortable, yeah.

I get those too. And it's never a choice in the dream. I'm already smoking in that dream when it's starts and I notice and think WTF? Thought I quit!
/almost a year thanks to e-cigs but now I'm a fatass.

I was already a fatass when I started E-cigs so I'm good...

/2.5 years for me.


Well done! I was working on permanent fatass status myself. now trying to work it off.
 
2013-02-21 04:41:18 PM  

Cold_Sassy: FTFA:  (Even if you don't smoke, click here to find out 5 Ways You Shorten Your Life Every Day.)

Beautiful.


I'm going to have to drink an awful lot of coffee to make up for my smoking.
 
2013-02-21 04:42:54 PM  

Carn: Genju: Couple extra things to add on to my last post:

They do sell 10% (100 mg / mL) nicotine solutions. But seriously do not try to kill yourself with that shiat. There are much easier ways to go. Nicotine overdose is a similar death to hemlock poisoning which royally sucks. Imagine uncontrolled puking and shiatting while every muscle in your body screams in paralyzing pain simultaneously for 20-30 minutes before cardiac arrest.

What about massive amounts of cocaine, heroin, and whiskey all at the same time?  Oh and hookers.


Oh...oh....you mean to cause death. I thought it was for....well I canceled a bunch of meetings you see... um... well never mind.
 
2013-02-21 04:50:39 PM  
Did you ever think that smoking doesnt cause cancer, but the kind of people who smoke also lead lifestyles that is condusive to causing cancer like working in heavy industry?
 
2013-02-21 04:51:12 PM  

addy2: Psychopusher: addy2: Super Chronic: The Muthaship: Super Chronic: I still occasionally have dreams where I'm smoking

Do you get pissed at yourself?  I have those dreams, and while I am still dreaming I get mad at myself for smoking.  It's weird.

I don't know if "pissed" is the word.  There's a definite sense of "I'm supposed to have quit, and here I go again."  But it's uncomfortable, yeah.

I get those too. And it's never a choice in the dream. I'm already smoking in that dream when it's starts and I notice and think WTF? Thought I quit!
/almost a year thanks to e-cigs but now I'm a fatass.

I was already a fatass when I started E-cigs so I'm good...

/2.5 years for me.

Well done! I was working on permanent fatass status myself. now trying to work it off.


I really should try and do the same.  But the reason I became a fatass was the same reason E-cigs were the only thing that got me to quit: I have zero willpower.  I'm just waiting for a magic pill, preferably one that won't cause my body to cook itself from the inside.  If only they would invent E-food that worked just as well...
 
2013-02-21 04:57:30 PM  

addy2: Super Chronic: The Muthaship: Super Chronic: I still occasionally have dreams where I'm smoking

Do you get pissed at yourself?  I have those dreams, and while I am still dreaming I get mad at myself for smoking.  It's weird.

I don't know if "pissed" is the word.  There's a definite sense of "I'm supposed to have quit, and here I go again."  But it's uncomfortable, yeah.

I get those too. And it's never a choice in the dream. I'm already smoking in that dream when it's starts and I notice and think WTF? Thought I quit!
/almost a year thanks to e-cigs but now I'm a fatass.


Hm.  It's different for me: it's a conscious decision when I start (and in fact it sometimes starts with me buying cigs at the store) and I'm not comfortable with the decision I'm making, but maybe I'm also rationalizing a bit -- "it's okay now because I'm not addicted! I've quit!" (Which, by the way, is the same terrible logic I used during previous unsuccessful attempts to quit:  "it's been a week, clearly I've kicked the habit, so I can go have one now!")
 
2013-02-21 05:09:04 PM  

Psychopusher: addy2: Psychopusher: addy2: Super Chronic: The Muthaship: Super Chronic: I still occasionally have dreams where I'm smoking

Do you get pissed at yourself?  I have those dreams, and while I am still dreaming I get mad at myself for smoking.  It's weird.

I don't know if "pissed" is the word.  There's a definite sense of "I'm supposed to have quit, and here I go again."  But it's uncomfortable, yeah.

I get those too. And it's never a choice in the dream. I'm already smoking in that dream when it's starts and I notice and think WTF? Thought I quit!
/almost a year thanks to e-cigs but now I'm a fatass.

I was already a fatass when I started E-cigs so I'm good...

/2.5 years for me.

Well done! I was working on permanent fatass status myself. now trying to work it off.

I really should try and do the same.  But the reason I became a fatass was the same reason E-cigs were the only thing that got me to quit: I have zero willpower.  I'm just waiting for a magic pill, preferably one that won't cause my body to cook itself from the inside.  If only they would invent E-food that worked just as well...


I've never tried the e-cigs...are they any good?
 
2013-02-21 05:13:59 PM  

sxacho: gopher321: Horseshiat. Smoking, even in your early years, not only threatens your health directly, but also amplifies any other medical conditions you may have and makes them worse.

Since I quit smoking, my psoriasis has gotten a lot worse. And now that it's spread to new areas, I'll always have it there. Thanks, health.


guess i'm not gonna quit then. already have bad psoriasis.
 
2013-02-21 05:14:40 PM  

Psychopusher: addy2: Psychopusher: addy2: Super Chronic: The Muthaship: Super Chronic: I still occasionally have dreams where I'm smoking

Do you get pissed at yourself?  I have those dreams, and while I am still dreaming I get mad at myself for smoking.  It's weird.

I don't know if "pissed" is the word.  There's a definite sense of "I'm supposed to have quit, and here I go again."  But it's uncomfortable, yeah.

I get those too. And it's never a choice in the dream. I'm already smoking in that dream when it's starts and I notice and think WTF? Thought I quit!
/almost a year thanks to e-cigs but now I'm a fatass.

I was already a fatass when I started E-cigs so I'm good...

/2.5 years for me.

Well done! I was working on permanent fatass status myself. now trying to work it off.

I really should try and do the same.  But the reason I became a fatass was the same reason E-cigs were the only thing that got me to quit: I have zero willpower.  I'm just waiting for a magic pill, preferably one that won't cause my body to cook itself from the inside.  If only they would invent E-food that worked just as well...


Guilty as well. And farking up my metabolism when I quit doesn't help. starting weight training to get off as much as I can.
 
2013-02-21 05:18:40 PM  

Super Chronic: addy2: Super Chronic: The Muthaship: Super Chronic: I still occasionally have dreams where I'm smoking

Do you get pissed at yourself?  I have those dreams, and while I am still dreaming I get mad at myself for smoking.  It's weird.

I don't know if "pissed" is the word.  There's a definite sense of "I'm supposed to have quit, and here I go again."  But it's uncomfortable, yeah.

I get those too. And it's never a choice in the dream. I'm already smoking in that dream when it's starts and I notice and think WTF? Thought I quit!
/almost a year thanks to e-cigs but now I'm a fatass.

Hm.  It's different for me: it's a conscious decision when I start (and in fact it sometimes starts with me buying cigs at the store) and I'm not comfortable with the decision I'm making, but maybe I'm also rationalizing a bit -- "it's okay now because I'm not addicted! I've quit!" (Which, by the way, is the same terrible logic I used during previous unsuccessful attempts to quit:  "it's been a week, clearly I've kicked the habit, so I can go have one now!")


Do you actually smoke in the dream? Is it enjoyable?
 
2013-02-21 05:23:01 PM  

Klom Dark: Carn:
//might start up again once if I hit 80 cuz fark it

Yes, if I don't think of it as quitting, but just waiting... That might be a good mindset.

// Then again, thinking about waiting 35 years until my next smoke? Yeahh, maybe not... :(


Yes, just an extended hiatus!
 
2013-02-21 05:39:09 PM  

BronyMedic: For the Record, the Today Show has also hosted one Depak Chopra, who despite being a "doctor", wants people to believe that positive thought and his 19.99 dollar product can help YOU live a disease free life.

Taking medical advice from the Today Show is like taking relationship advice from a FARK Rape thread.


You should probably have read the link; the info is from the New England Journal of Medicine.  But it's really nothing new, as studies have been saying more or less the same thing for years.

/quit before I turned 20 for just this reason
//new study says I made the right choice.
 
2013-02-21 05:43:12 PM  

addy2: Super Chronic: addy2: Super Chronic: The Muthaship: Super Chronic: I still occasionally have dreams where I'm smoking

Do you get pissed at yourself?  I have those dreams, and while I am still dreaming I get mad at myself for smoking.  It's weird.

I don't know if "pissed" is the word.  There's a definite sense of "I'm supposed to have quit, and here I go again."  But it's uncomfortable, yeah.

I get those too. And it's never a choice in the dream. I'm already smoking in that dream when it's starts and I notice and think WTF? Thought I quit!
/almost a year thanks to e-cigs but now I'm a fatass.

Hm.  It's different for me: it's a conscious decision when I start (and in fact it sometimes starts with me buying cigs at the store) and I'm not comfortable with the decision I'm making, but maybe I'm also rationalizing a bit -- "it's okay now because I'm not addicted! I've quit!" (Which, by the way, is the same terrible logic I used during previous unsuccessful attempts to quit:  "it's been a week, clearly I've kicked the habit, so I can go have one now!")

Do you actually smoke in the dream? Is it enjoyable?


I think so, at least the first puff or two.  I'm not sure if it's enjoyable or not, aside from the awkwardness I mentioned.  Should I be lying on a couch here while you take notes?
 
2013-02-21 05:57:51 PM  

some_beer_drinker: sxacho: gopher321: Horseshiat. Smoking, even in your early years, not only threatens your health directly, but also amplifies any other medical conditions you may have and makes them worse.

Since I quit smoking, my psoriasis has gotten a lot worse. And now that it's spread to new areas, I'll always have it there. Thanks, health.

guess i'm not gonna quit then. already have bad psoriasis.


The weird thing is, I've switched to those e-cigarette things (with the highest nicotine levels) the day I quit. So I know it's not nicotine withdrawal. I looked up psoriasis-propylene glycol links and couldn't find anything one way or the other. Or rather, the internet is full of opinions on both sides. But nothing worthwhile, as far as I could find. So I'm living in the future, sucking on my ee-lec-tronic cigarette, and life goes on. God I miss smoking.
 
2013-02-21 06:01:50 PM  
Hmm Im 23 and have been smoking since I was 15
Lung collapsed at 21 bad times.

Need to quit but oh so hard.
 
2013-02-21 06:02:44 PM  

Super Chronic: addy2: Super Chronic: addy2: Super Chronic: The Muthaship: Super Chronic: I still occasionally have dreams where I'm smoking

Do you get pissed at yourself?  I have those dreams, and while I am still dreaming I get mad at myself for smoking.  It's weird.

I don't know if "pissed" is the word.  There's a definite sense of "I'm supposed to have quit, and here I go again."  But it's uncomfortable, yeah.

I get those too. And it's never a choice in the dream. I'm already smoking in that dream when it's starts and I notice and think WTF? Thought I quit!
/almost a year thanks to e-cigs but now I'm a fatass.

Hm.  It's different for me: it's a conscious decision when I start (and in fact it sometimes starts with me buying cigs at the store) and I'm not comfortable with the decision I'm making, but maybe I'm also rationalizing a bit -- "it's okay now because I'm not addicted! I've quit!" (Which, by the way, is the same terrible logic I used during previous unsuccessful attempts to quit:  "it's been a week, clearly I've kicked the habit, so I can go have one now!")

Do you actually smoke in the dream? Is it enjoyable?

I think so, at least the first puff or two.  I'm not sure if it's enjoyable or not, aside from the awkwardness I mentioned.  Should I be lying on a couch here while you take notes?


LOL. You'd think I was doing a research paper. Just nosy and curious really.
 
2013-02-21 06:04:39 PM  

addy2: You'd think I was doing a research paper.


For me, it was a feeling of relief to be having a smoke (in the dream) immediately followed by being very angry and disappointed with myself.  I'd still be mad when I woke up.

Haven't had one of those dreams in a while, thankfully.
 
2013-02-21 06:20:42 PM  
I am so glad I never started.

Being straight-edge in my youth did actually pay off in my adulthood.

With smoking, though, it was just logic: Breathing in carbon can't be good for you, whether it's from a stick of tobacco on fire, or from a house fire you're trying to escape.
 
2013-02-21 06:21:58 PM  
24.media.tumblr.com

are u smokin yet??
 
2013-02-21 06:42:11 PM  

DS1970: I quit smoking when I was 18...

...only tobacco, though.


i smoked like a year, so i could tell everyone i quit
 
2013-02-21 06:50:40 PM  

ZeroCorpse: I am so glad I never started.

Being straight-edge in my youth did actually pay off in my adulthood.

With smoking, though, it was just logic: Breathing in carbon can't be good for you, whether it's from a stick of tobacco on fire, or from a house fire you're trying to escape.


Oh, shut up.
 
2013-02-21 06:55:07 PM  
Article paid for by yours truly.
 
2013-02-21 06:56:21 PM  
I find it much easier to cut down than to quit! I've succesflly cut down to about 2 cigs a day from 5 or 6 BUT I can already tell quitting is darn near impossible for me :(....
 
2013-02-21 06:59:48 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: DS1970: I quit smoking when I was 18...

...only tobacco, though.

i smoked like a year, so i could tell everyone i quit


I think I smoked a year, too.

But it was during college, so...it could have been a week. Or all of college.
 
2013-02-21 07:03:58 PM  
Smoked briefly in college... ran low on money and had to choose between cigarettes and alcohol... alcohol won.

occasionally light up a pipe or cigar to enjoy with a nice glass of whiskey or brandy. can't stand cigarettes anymore.
 
2013-02-21 07:16:52 PM  

SarcasticFark: I've never tried the e-cigs...are they any good?


I quit smoking literally the instant I tried my first E-cig.  Not everyone does -- some take a few days or a few weeks, everyone's different, but they're orders of magnitude better than Nicorette or other NRT products.  Keep in mind though that these are designed as a safer, healthier alternative to smoking rather than as a stop smoking aid, however it also happens to be a lot easier to reduce and eventually eliminate your nicotine intake from a platform of electronic cigarettes than it is from tobacco if that's your ultimate goal, because E-cigs don't have all the crap (and particularly the MAOIs in tobacco) that make it harder to quit.

If you're interested in more detailed info than would be sane or appropriate to post here drop me a line at vaporchase1 AT gmail.com and I'll tell you anything you wanna know.  :)

addy2: Guilty as well. And farking up my metabolism when I quit doesn't help. starting weight training to get off as much as I can.


Yeah, did that too, though not because of E-cigs.  My metabolism just apparently said fark this, packed it in and headed for Aruba as soon as I hit 30.  And I, heedless of its departure and enjoying the mounting stresses of life, didn't adjust my diet accordingly.  Farking fatty foods.  Why do you have to be so delicious?
 
2013-02-21 07:17:12 PM  
This is bullshiat.  I quit smoking at age 28.  At age 33 was diagnoised with Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (COPD).  I am 34 now and I have a Chronic Lung Disease.
 
2013-02-21 07:35:40 PM  

Psychopusher: I quit smoking literally the instant I tried my first E-cig.  Not everyone does -- some take a few days or a few weeks, everyone's different, but they're orders of magnitude better than Nicorette or other NRT products.  Keep in mind though that these are designed as a safer, healthier alternative to smoking rather than as a stop smoking aid, however it also happens to be a lot easier to reduce and eventually eliminate your nicotine intake from a platform of electronic cigarettes than it is from tobacco if that's your ultimate goal, because E-cigs don't have all the crap (and particularly the MAOIs in tobacco) that make it harder to quit.

If you're interested in more detailed info than would be sane or appropriate to post here drop me a line at vaporchase1 AT gmail.com and I'll tell you anything you wanna know.  :)


Is Fark doing sponsored posts now in addition to sponsored links?
 
2013-02-21 07:56:01 PM  
Chris Dorner just quit smoking.
 
2013-02-21 08:05:13 PM  

Fark Rye For Many Whores: Having a hard time breaking the habit? Download Quitpal (free for IOS), a new app from the National Cancer Institute. Among other features, it helps you track the money you're saving and connects you with social media networks so friends can help you stay on track.

Show them what their lungs look like.


Ive been to this:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodies:_The_Exhibition

And saw what my lungs look like. I still smoke.
 
2013-02-21 09:04:50 PM  

BronyMedic: GungFu: Bullshiat! Smoking provides essential vitamins and healthly amino acids to help develope your lungs in combating air pollutants, such as car fumes and halitosis.

Without smoking, you get cancer from daily pollution and your workmates bad breath.

Scientific fact.

Sadly, some people actually aren't kidding when they say this, and are paid very, very well by Cigarette Companies to ensure this is the line of bullshiat the American Public is fed.

Back in the 1970s and 1980s, when there was major controversy over if Cigarette sales should be heavily restricted or banned because of their health effects, things like this and paid-for false studies were the norm for these guys.


Waaaah! I didn't know smoking was bad for health. I heard some propaganda ad that made me smoke. Waaah!
 
2013-02-21 09:07:12 PM  
To everyone here suffering from psoriasis like me I will provide this gift.   I have used every cream, 5 years of light therapy, and numerous injectibles over the past 20 years.   The only drug that has totally cleared my skin, which covered almost half my body was Stelara.   When I had insurance the injection was free, and is given every 3 months.    Now, after losing my insurance one injection is $6800 a piece which obviously I cannot afford.   The point of my rant is that Johnson and Johnson has a "patient assistant program" that if you qualify for they can provide you with 1 years worth of injections, almost $27,000 dollars worth of medicine.   I qualified and get my first free injection next week and I've never been so thrilled to see a needle.  Trust me this drug was a godsend to me and I saw progress in the first 2 weeks.   Can't wait to get sticked with that needle.
 
2013-02-21 09:22:07 PM  
I have a lot of friends who are insanely smart, like astrophysics professors and shiat, and none of us ever smoked. The very few people in our crowd in college who smoked were the people we considered stupid (I went to engineering nerd school). So just know, when you're lighting up all hip and cool, you've just put the dumb guy sign around your neck.The reason you smoke is that you were too stupid when someone offered you that first butt to say, "Hey, this is a smelly, expensive, unpleasant habit that makes you sick. Why would I try it?"
 
2013-02-21 09:26:02 PM  

Fark Rye For Many Whores: Show them what their lungs look like.


Heart attack symptoms work well, too.

I started smoking at 17 and was up to 3 packs/day by the age of 20.  I had heart attack symptoms at the age of 36 and spent the night in the hospital.  It was a false alarm, but I took the hint and got a prescription for Chantix.  If there was ever a miracle drug, it's Chantix.  No withdrawal symptoms and no cravings after the 1st week.  In fact, I cut the dosage in half after two weeks and quit the whole treatment program six weeks into a twelve week program and still never had any cravings or withdrawal symptoms.

My heart and lungs, so far, still look great according to the doctor.  It's been four years and you'll never know how bad you feel as a smoker until you've quit.
 
2013-02-21 09:59:56 PM  
It says you won't die sooner than nonsmokers. It does not describe what the effects will be on you quality of life.
 
2013-02-21 10:19:07 PM  
A good family friend who smoked a pack a day until she quit in the mid-80s died last year of stage 4 lung cancer. She hadn't smoked since her early 40s, she started feeling tired and a bit weak,  went to the doctor, and died within 2 weeks of diagnosis. It was sad and shocking for everyone except for apparently the doctors who said it's not that uncommon.

So good luck, smokers!
 
2013-02-21 11:26:24 PM  

sat1va: A good family friend who smoked a pack a day until she quit in the mid-80s died last year of stage 4 lung cancer. She hadn't smoked since her early 40s, she started feeling tired and a bit weak,  went to the doctor, and died within 2 weeks of diagnosis. It was sad and shocking for everyone except for apparently the doctors who said it's not that uncommon.

So good luck, smokers!


Yeah, that's pretty much what happened to my dad, tho he lived 8 weeks to the day from his first symptoms. You can scroll up for more details. I'm still bitter 10 years later.
 
2013-02-21 11:30:31 PM  

sat1va: A good family friend who smoked a pack a day until she quit in the mid-80s died last year of stage 4 lung cancer. She hadn't smoked since her early 40s, she started feeling tired and a bit weak,  went to the doctor, and died within 2 weeks of diagnosis. It was sad and shocking for everyone except for apparently the doctors who said it's not that uncommon.

So good luck, smokers!


I love math/word riddles.

So she was in her early 40's in the mid-80's... so lets say she was 42 in 86.  She died in 2012, putting her at 68 years old.    Not that uncommon.

(sorry for your loss)
 
2013-02-22 12:26:56 AM  

megarian: Jon iz teh kewl: DS1970: I quit smoking when I was 18...

...only tobacco, though.

i smoked like a year, so i could tell everyone i quit

I think I smoked a year, too.

But it was during college, so...it could have been a week. Or all of college.


but if it wasn't for that damned horse..
 
2013-02-22 01:06:15 AM  

Knucklepopper: Is Fark doing sponsored posts now in addition to sponsored links?


I'm a pretty crap sponsor if I didn't mention any brands.  Being enthusiastic about a concept is more in the nature of a PSA.
 
2013-02-22 03:20:31 AM  

Psychopusher: SarcasticFark: I've never tried the e-cigs...are they any good?

I quit smoking literally the instant I tried my first E-cig.  Not everyone does -- some take a few days or a few weeks, everyone's different, but they're orders of magnitude better than Nicorette or other NRT products.  Keep in mind though that these are designed as a safer, healthier alternative to smoking rather than as a stop smoking aid, however it also happens to be a lot easier to reduce and eventually eliminate your nicotine intake from a platform of electronic cigarettes than it is from tobacco if that's your ultimate goal, because E-cigs don't have all the crap (and particularly the MAOIs in tobacco) that make it harder to quit.

If you're interested in more detailed info than would be sane or appropriate to post here drop me a line at vaporchase1 AT gmail.com and I'll tell you anything you wanna know.  :)

addy2: Guilty as well. And farking up my metabolism when I quit doesn't help. starting weight training to get off as much as I can.

Yeah, did that too, though not because of E-cigs.  My metabolism just apparently said fark this, packed it in and headed for Aruba as soon as I hit 30.  And I, heedless of its departure and enjoying the mounting stresses of life, didn't adjust my diet accordingly.  Farking fatty foods.  Why do you have to be so delicious?


Thanks for the info!  I do believe I'll give these a try soon :D
 
2013-02-22 03:22:02 AM  

The One True TheDavid: stupiddream:

Do you really want to live to your second childhood, diapers and all?  I think we should encourage all unhealthy behavior because there are too many of us on theis planet anyway.

I agree in general, but the unhealthy behavior should make you feel better. Bronchitis, asthma and incipient emphysema doesn't qualify.

But I took up eating & boozing to replace it.

And I've always been a fan of hot sex with crazy women.

AHEM. I said "I've always been a fan of hot sex with crazy women."

You hear that, KY Farkettes?


You rang?
 
2013-02-22 03:51:22 AM  

gopher321: Horseshiat. Smoking, even in your early years, not only threatens your health directly, but also amplifies any other medical conditions you may have and makes them worse.


I concur.  I was 30 years and 9 months when I quit in late 2002 because a routine exam showed I had "some emphysema."  If I had kept smoking a pack a day, there's no telling how bad off I'd be today.
 
2013-02-22 08:26:09 AM  

The Muthaship: Zeb Hesselgresser: So far, not so bad.  Morning runs no easier though, how soon before I notice a difference?

My breathing actually got worse for probably 60-90 days, then improved greatly.

/morning runs suck for everyone;)


Thanks for that.  My wall was that 2 - 2.5 mile mark while smoking a pack a week, it dropped to 1.5 for the last 3 - 4 weeks when I quit.  I'm thinking, "Who am I, George Costanza?"
 
2013-02-22 10:02:03 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Neruos: Tell that to the 17 year old with lung cancer.

They shouldn't have inhaled all those diesel fumes then.  Diesel fumes are highly carcinogenic.


Ironically enough, I started smoking at university in London because I couldn't stand the pervasive smell of diesel fumes and Dunhills covered the smell nicely

Quit smoking 1 month after my 45th bday, so I guess I'm screwed
 
2013-02-22 05:51:29 PM  
Private messages:2011-07-31 from System: Happy 53rd birthday!2012-07-31 from System: Happy 54th birthday! Coulda used that information 10 years ago, thanks-
 
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