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(Huffington Post)   Scott Walker proposes to pay for tax cuts by cutting school funding, health care, and selling off state property. This is a repeat of every time he opens his mouth   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 218
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2013-02-21 02:07:52 PM  
Wisconsin:  Where the state Dems have an opportunity to nail the GOP at point blank range...and they keep missing the target.
 
2013-02-21 02:08:00 PM  
The race to the bottom!How are those jobs going for you Walker?
 
2013-02-21 02:08:50 PM  
I'm so embarrassed for my state.
 
2013-02-21 02:10:41 PM  
OK, Fark Republicans, defend that.
 
2013-02-21 02:11:06 PM  
Please proceed you filthy little cancer. Best way to ensure Wisconsin turns into a blue state (in spite of the Dems incompetence).
 
2013-02-21 02:12:36 PM  
Rich people need more money, children need less education..........these farks believe that they are Christian.
 
2013-02-21 02:12:48 PM  
Schools already lack money.  Likewise, many states and municipalities are laying off police and firemen to save money.  How much more blood can you get from those stones before they simply become useless?

While I agree that cutting taxes does indeed get more money into the hands of people who will spend it, our overall tax rates haven't been this low in decades.  Going even lower is probably not the right answer.  (And I have to wonder how much of those tax cuts are for the wealthy, not the middle class.)
 
2013-02-21 02:12:51 PM  
We should cut things that aren't productive, and increase things that are productive.  Education - productive.  Health Care - Dependent on who the recipient is.  The younger the better.  Cut military spending.  Raise the retirement age.  Cut bureacracy.

Selling property is a dumb idea, as it is a one time cash infusion that just puts off the eventual problem.
 
2013-02-21 02:12:54 PM  
Selling off state property that's always a brilliant long lasting solution.
 
2013-02-21 02:12:57 PM  

Mija: OK, Fark Republicans, defend that.


Tax is theft. Educate your own damn self, moocher.
 
2013-02-21 02:13:46 PM  

Mija: OK, Fark Republicans, defend that.


1) tax cutz are essential for growth
2) NO GOVERNMENT IN SCHOOLS
3) NO GOVERNMENT IN HEALTHCARE
4) the private sector can make better use of those resources than government can. Because free markets.

// it's easy enough if you speak the language
 
2013-02-21 02:14:26 PM  

MattStafford: We should cut things that aren't productive, and increase things that are productive.  Education - productive.  Health Care - Dependent on who the recipient is.  The younger the better.  Cut military spending.  Raise the retirement age.  Cut bureacracy.

Selling property is a dumb idea, as it is a one time cash infusion that just puts off the eventual problem.


But the Repubicans have to pay off all those outside investors somehow.
 
2013-02-21 02:16:09 PM  
The Emperor has spoken!!!

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2013-02-21 02:19:01 PM  
As with McCain and the Teabaggers, Florida and Rick Scott, and Wisconsin and Walker, this is basically my reaction to their situation:

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2013-02-21 02:19:45 PM  
Wisconsin has too much public land that poors and other undesirables like Illinoisians can use. If these are sold off than the state can get some long term benefits by giving tax cuts to rich Kansas businessmen that will eventually trickle down to Wisconsin residents.
 
2013-02-21 02:20:23 PM  
"We just can't afford these things."

"But you keep cutting taxes."

"Well yeah, how else will we pay for those things?"

"..."
 
2013-02-21 02:21:31 PM  
I thought the way Walker was deadset to turn Wisconsin into an industrialist's paradise filled with low-information, low-skill workers that Wississippi would be a proper term for the state. However, if Walker keeps up this pace, the state could be Windia by 2014!
 
2013-02-21 02:22:02 PM  
Walker's proposed budget has a lot of good ideas. But it's Walker, so BOO!
 
2013-02-21 02:22:53 PM  
But this will create 15,000,000 jobs, each paying $5 an hour, and once we make income tax fair and balanced, they will pay 28% income tax, no exceptions, and that's something like $18 million per hour in new fair and balanced revenue.  That's $144 million a day, over $700 million a week, $35 billion a year.  And everybody's happy because everybody has skin in the game.

So you see, we'd be crazy not to.
 
2013-02-21 02:25:28 PM  

MattStafford: We should cut things that aren't productive, and increase things that are productive.  Education - productive.  Health Care - Dependent on who the recipient is.  The younger the better.  Cut military spending.  Raise the retirement age.  Cut bureacracy.

Selling property is a dumb idea, as it is a one time cash infusion that just puts off the eventual problem.


I think you could say that raising the retirement age is equally short-sighted. First off, the retirement age (i.e. for SS benefits) has already been raised depending on when you  were born.  Second, delaying retirement benefits means that older people stay in the workforce longer, meaning young people will have more trouble finding jobs, meaning higher unemployment.

Also what are you suggesting in terms of health care? Rationing based on age?
 
2013-02-21 02:28:24 PM  
There's a lesson to be learned here:

Be careful what you Teabag for because you just might get it.
 
2013-02-21 02:29:50 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: The Emperor has spoken!!!

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or, the wizard.  dammit.  still applies...
 
2013-02-21 02:33:36 PM  

insano: I think you could say that raising the retirement age is equally short-sighted. First off, the retirement age (i.e. for SS benefits) has already been raised depending on when you were born. Second, delaying retirement benefits means that older people stay in the workforce longer, meaning young people will have more trouble finding jobs, meaning higher unemployment.

Also what are you suggesting in terms of health care? Rationing based on age?


This is viewing the problem through a strictly financial lens, as opposed to moral lens.  Retired people don't produce anything, so in terms of sustaining the overall health of the economy, cutting benefits there is a good place to start.  As for the health care?  I'd rather spend 1,000 dollars on keeping a young person healthy and working than 1,000 dollars keeping a retired person alive for an extra year.

When viewed through a moral lens, we should absolutely support the elderly.  Unfortunately, you need people to look at things through a financial lens as well.  It doesn't matter what your morals are when you have no wealth to distribute.
 
2013-02-21 02:34:51 PM  
Please tell me this horrible excuse for a human being is going to get tossed out on his butt next year?
 
2013-02-21 02:34:53 PM  

Corvus: Selling off state property that's always a brilliant long lasting solution.


Not to mention he's proposing selling off power plants! Generally they're an outstanding source of steady. long-term income. Which is why investors will pay top dollar to buy them, but it'll totally screw over his successors by depriving them a great source of state income.
 
2013-02-21 02:35:24 PM  

MattStafford: As for the health care?  I'd rather spend 1,000 dollars on keeping a young person healthy and working than 1,000 dollars keeping a retired person alive for an extra year.


Death panels?
 
2013-02-21 02:37:31 PM  

Cletus C.: Walker's proposed budget has a lot of good ideas. But it's Walker, so BOO!


I don't see any good ideas in it unless you somehow think tax cuts and kickbacks for his besties somehow increases revenue and magically creates jobs.
 
2013-02-21 02:37:37 PM  

Supes: Not to mention he's proposing selling off power plants! Generally they're an outstanding source of steady. long-term income. Which is why investors will pay top dollar to buy them, but it'll totally screw over his successors by depriving them a great source of state income.


And likely introducing Wisconsin to the idea of the energy prices spiking to pay for rolling blackouts
 
2013-02-21 02:37:39 PM  
Sith gotta sith
 
2013-02-21 02:38:24 PM  

Supes: Not to mention he's proposing selling off power plants!


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2013-02-21 02:38:51 PM  

Supes: Corvus: Selling off state property that's always a brilliant long lasting solution.

Not to mention he's proposing selling off power plants! Generally they're an outstanding source of steady. long-term income. Which is why investors will pay top dollar to buy them, but it'll totally screw over his successors by depriving them a great source of state income.


But of course. That's the entire objective behind moves like this, or like tax cuts; force future (Democratic) administrations to either massively cut spending, raise taxes, or deficit spend. "fark things up, get voted out of office, get re-elected by blaming the Democrats for the unpopular fixes necessary to solve the problems you created" is standard operating procedure.
 
2013-02-21 02:39:27 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: The Emperor has spoken!!!

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Shouldn't there be some brown stains on their backsides?
 
2013-02-21 02:39:33 PM  

insano: Also what are you suggesting in terms of health care? Rationing based on age?


Don't know about the poster, but pretty sure Walker is in favor of rationing on basis of being able to pay.
 
2013-02-21 02:39:37 PM  

Vodka Zombie: I don't see any good ideas in it unless you somehow think tax cuts and kickbacks for his besties somehow increases revenue and magically creates jobs.


Cletus C. might very well be one of Walker's friends, didn't think of that, now, did you?
 
2013-02-21 02:40:07 PM  

MattStafford: Retired people don't produce anything, so in terms of sustaining the overall health of the economy, cutting benefits there is a good place to start.


That's not strictly true. Retired people sometimes travel, they spend money, and they produce economic activity through the variety of services they consume. I do think eventually you get into a situation where you get diminishing returns, but they aren't strictly just a drain on the economy simply because they don't work.
 
2013-02-21 02:40:51 PM  

Kibbler: But this will create 15,000,000 jobs, each paying $5 an hour, and once we make income tax fair and balanced, they will pay 28% income tax, no exceptions, and that's something like $18 million per hour in new fair and balanced revenue.  That's $144 million a day, over $700 million a week, $35 billion a year.  And everybody's happy because everybody has skin in the game.

So you see, we'd be crazy not to.


But at that salary, I'll be dead from starvation, overwork and malnutrition after only two months... Oh. Oh I see. Well played, Republicans.
 
2013-02-21 02:41:00 PM  
Business-savy GOP sez: Liquidate principal to pay current expenses,

Everybody else sez: *facepalm*
 
2013-02-21 02:41:35 PM  
Good. Wisconsin is getting exactly what they deserve.
 
2013-02-21 02:41:39 PM  

Lane83: But at that salary, I'll be dead from starvation, overwork and malnutrition after only two months... Oh. Oh I see. Well played, Republicans.


It's all part of the war on the poor.


You mean the war on poverty?


Sure, let's go with that.
 
2013-02-21 02:42:02 PM  

Sergeant Grumbles: And likely introducing Wisconsin to the idea of the energy prices spiking to pay for rolling blackouts


"Just cut 'em off. They're so farked. They should just bring back farking horses and carriages, farking lamps, farking kerosene lamps."
 
2013-02-21 02:42:26 PM  
So he's finally acknowledging that tax cuts need paid for and don't instantly create surpluses?
 
2013-02-21 02:44:23 PM  
Geez, sounds just like Perry and Texas, we can't to get rid of that  d*bag for at least another three years.
 
2013-02-21 02:46:04 PM  

Artcurus: Geez, sounds just like Perry and Texas, we can't to get rid of that  d*bag for at least another three years.


We'll never be rid of him. This place drives me nuts sometimes.
 
2013-02-21 02:46:13 PM  
Dear Republicans who claim to be Christians,

Jesus wants to remind you of Matthew 25:31-46. Again.
 
2013-02-21 02:47:34 PM  
Scott Walker proposes to pay for tax cuts by cutting school funding, health care...

Does he not realize what taxes are FOR?
 
2013-02-21 02:48:18 PM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: MattStafford: Retired people don't produce anything, so in terms of sustaining the overall health of the economy, cutting benefits there is a good place to start.

That's not strictly true. Retired people sometimes travel, they spend money, and they produce economic activity through the variety of services they consume. I do think eventually you get into a situation where you get diminishing returns, but they aren't strictly just a drain on the economy simply because they don't work.


Dude, Matt has a degree in Economics. That like makes him a Milton Krugman type guy. He's smart.
 
2013-02-21 02:48:30 PM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Lane83: But at that salary, I'll be dead from starvation, overwork and malnutrition after only two months... Oh. Oh I see. Well played, Republicans.

It's all part of the war on the poor.


You mean the war on poverty?


Sure, let's go with that.


Eventually, when only a small number of the poor are left, wealthy people will open their vast holdings to tenant workers, who will owe their life and livelihood to their employer. The employer will in turn owe a number of workers and support to the government who so graciously enforces the laws against the employer's tenant workers!

Wow! Why has no one ever thought of an economic system like this before? It sounds sweet!
 
2013-02-21 02:49:21 PM  

qorkfiend: MattStafford: As for the health care?  I'd rather spend 1,000 dollars on keeping a young person healthy and working than 1,000 dollars keeping a retired person alive for an extra year.

Death panels?


If we're going to have government run health care, there will have to be someone who says that a procedure is not worth it based on the quality/extension of life gained.  Should we spend a million dollars to keep someone incapable of communicating alive for a year?  No.
 
2013-02-21 02:49:37 PM  

wooden_badger: Ow! That was my feelings!: The Emperor has spoken!!!

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Shouldn't there be some brown stains on their backsides?



I'd expect those to be on their noses, but I'm not sayin' your wrong.
 
2013-02-21 02:50:08 PM  
With some of these things already in motion, Wisconsin has some of the worst job creation numbers in the nation.  And honestly, we shouldn't have expected anything less from the goof who ran the county that's home to the 4th poorest city in the entire goddamn nation.
 
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