HelloNeuman: When I was growing up I was coerced into giving $1 each week to the Catholic Church at Sunday Mass. I had no say in this and failure to comply ensured a prompt and vengeful response on Monday morning from the nuns who monitored this activity each week. (Our names and class numbers were on each envelope) No, having gained free will and an understanding what the Catholic Church stands for, I WANT MY MONEY BACK! I WILL SUE FOR REPERATIONS!
PsiChick: Kahabut: PsiChick: Walker: "I certainly don't believe in 'returnism', as it were. I don't think that's sensible."So you don't believe in "returnism" but you believe in stealing. Cool ethics bro!THIS. Even if you're not giving it back, at least try and pretend you understand you stole it. FFS. I can understand why you wouldn't want to return it, politics is a dirty game, but you farked up, admit it and move on.Funny thing, HE didn't steal it. He wasn't even farking alive when it happened. So no, he really doesn't need to understand that.This is exactly like the blacks demanding reparations for slavery, in the United States. fark you. You weren't a slave, so unless you are going to do forced labor for the next few years, you aren't getting any reparations. Wellfare I guess isn't a reparation.You ever represented a company before? Did you personally believe the Ecto-Cooler you were selling cured cancer? Nope, but that company sure did. So you opened your mouth and said Ecto-Cooler cured cancer. And thus, when the lawsuit hit, you weren't sued as a person, the company was sued for making false statements.That's how spokespeople work. He did not personally steal it, or he'd be in farking jail. But the country he's representing did.
Treygreen13: Englebert Slaptyback: Treygreen13They're not even really a big secret anymore. You can go to a website right now and for less than $500 get a rock so big and bright your girlfriend's panties will break the sound barrier hitting the ground.URL or we'll be forced to call shenanigans.http://www.diamondnexus.com/round-brilliant-cut-classic-series.htmlYou can get a 4.91 carat synthetic diamond from them for less than 500. If you want to go comically large they offer a 16 carat diamond for $1600. Please don't do that, though. Nobody will believe you've got the scratch for a 16 carat diamond unless people think you've got a cool mil lying around just for rings.
Somacandra: Weaver95: form and army and invade.Why not point a nuke at the UK and say "hand it over motherfarker?" India is a nuclear power after all.
johnnyq: I'm all for acknowledging our forebears mistakes and making up where we can, but Sir Harry Paget Flashman, VC, KCB, KCIE, didn't go through all that trouble during the First Sikh War smuggling the Koh-i-Noor out just to have it handed right back.
Treygreen13: 12349876: Somacandra: Weaver95: form and army and invade.Why not point a nuke at the UK and say "hand it over motherfarker?" India is a nuclear power after all.According to Wikipedia, the UK has about twice as many nukes to point back.I can see it now, two massive nations nuking the bejeezus out of each other over a rock in a hat.
ITGreen: "One of the world's largest diamonds, some Indians - including independence leader Mahatma Gandhi's grandson - have demanded its return to atone for Britain's colonial past. "So one diamond will atone for Britain's colonial wrongdoings? No? Then giving it back is only the first in a line of "atonement" gestures to be demanded later by India.I actually agree with the British on this one; nip this stunt of theirs in the bud.
wildcardjack: Yeah, are we sure they're dealing in octahedral carbon diamond? The language used in their vid has more weasels than a Yorkshireman's pants. Gemesis comes out and says lab grown diamonds, Diamond Nexus talks about "the only difference is the chemistry" in their video and who knows what that means. Silicon carbide was mistaken for synthetic diamond 150 years ago and can be grown in crystals large enough to make armor.
wood0366: Treygreen13: 12349876: Somacandra: Weaver95: form and army and invade.Why not point a nuke at the UK and say "hand it over motherfarker?" India is a nuclear power after all.According to Wikipedia, the UK has about twice as many nukes to point back.I can see it now, two massive nations nuking the bejeezus out of each other over a rock in a hat.Isn't that the plot of Team Fortress 2?
give me doughnuts: Somacandra: Weaver95: form and army and invade.Why not point a nuke at the UK and say "hand it over motherfarker?" India is a nuclear power after all.Because England would just laugh politely, and say whatever their version of "biatch, please" is.
ChildOfBhaal: johnnyq: I'm all for acknowledging our forebears mistakes and making up where we can, but Sir Harry Paget Flashman, VC, KCB, KCIE, didn't go through all that trouble during the First Sikh War smuggling the Koh-i-Noor out just to have it handed right back.Flashman in less than 100 posts. Not all bad.
Gordon Bennett: kbronsito: I've never been to London... is there an entrance fee to go into the museum? Maybe people who had their crap stolen from them should have it waive by showing their passports. Because it's a dick move to steal someone's stuff but its an even more dickish move to charge them money to look at it.There is no entrance fee, but there is a large urn just inside the entrance for those who choose to give a recommended donation. It's quite interesting to see as it has money from all around the world inside. I doubt that it is emptied often.As for returning their treasures, India is free to wait along with Greece and Egypt. The advantage of having built history's greatest empire is the legacy of stolen treasures from all over the planet and building the British Museum which is surely the world's greatest monument to theft on a grand scale. It may not be right, but at least it's all on display inside a genuinely stunning building for the world to see.Besides, I can't imagine any sort of genuine global attempt to return property and land taken in the past through force and treachery without the lot of us returning to the Old Stone Age. There comes a point in which you really must stop fighting battles in retaliation of injustices committed against your long-dead ancestors against the other side's descendants born years or even centuries after the fact.
gaspode: The whole theft/return idea is ridiculous on a massive scale. Almost everything that has a history was essentially 'stolen' by this definition. Is India/Egypt/Greece planning on a complete audit of their entire national possessions to establish original ownership and whether they were legally transferred and then going to return them? No because that would be STUPID.Half of their own countries only belong to them through conquest and subjugation. Why is there something special about the european conquests of the 16-19 centuries that makes that stuff 'stolen'?
Christian Bale: Yeah cuz diamonds degrade in the elements so rapidly.
Diogenes: Any word yet on the fate of the Crimson Gem of Cyttorak?
Bit'O'Gristle: And why we, as a people, put such value on pressurized carbon is beyond me. Why not just pick a coconut? Or a found beetle carapace? It's all in the value of what we say its worth. To me, diamonds are a way of saying "im giving you all my cash for a useless rock that my fiancée wants, so i keep getting bj's, so here..here is all my cash for a hunk of stupid carbon." Why not just give her a CZ or something that you won't have to pay your next 22 paychecks for? fark diamonds, they have no value to me, nor does gold, or any of that shiat. Just because greedy people say it does, doesn't make it so.
FTDA: NightOwl2255: you are a puppet: SERIOUSLY THOUGH, as a man of Indian descent...I'm 1/256 Indian (Cherokee). Sure, it's not much, but I did get $2000 a year for college, and I can get free medical care and medicine if I want to go to the Indian clinic./Feather, not Ruby.Do you know why Indian women have a red dot on their forehead? So when they get married their husband can scratch it off to see if he won a 7-11./I keed!
eggrolls: Sorry, we need it for strategic anti-werewolf purposes.[img.photobucket.com image 640x368]
Fark Rye For Many Whores: eggrolls: Sorry, we need it for strategic anti-werewolf purposes.[img.photobucket.com image 640x368]I've heard London has quite the infestation.
hitlersbrain: You can grow diamonds pretty cheap in a lab. They are actually quite worthless. The only way to tell which ones were dug out of the ground by some dying African slave worker is by looking for the imperfections that are hard to fake. The more perfect the diamond, the less value it has./people be chumps.
NightOwl2255: I'm 1/256 Indian (Cherokee). Sure, it's not much, but I did get $2000 a year for college, and I can get free medical care and medicine if I want to go to the Indian clinic.
IamAwake: //I dismissed it because I have never stepped foot on a reservation, thus there's no way I'd let myself take money for something that isn't *me*
Weaver95: you want that stuff back, form and army and invade. otherwise forget about it.
bmihura: Current United States government to American Indians: Remember that little chunk of land currently called "the United States" we stole from you well over 150 years ago? Yeah, you're never getting that back.
MythDragon: The 4chan Psychiatrist: And I'd give the edge to the Sikh warriors of India vs. the modern Brits, SAS excluded, ofc.[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 680x541]"For short range weapons:Edge: Sikh Warriors with their curved blades and beardsFor special weapons:Edge: Sikh Warriors for their Turbans of Doom.For long range weapons:Edge: British Military with aircraft carriers, Apaches, and cluster bombs"
give me doughnuts: The 4chan Psychiatrist: SurfaceTension: Weaver95: you want that stuff back, form and army and invade. otherwise forget about it.I don't know. I'd give even odds for an army of Hindu warriors vs. the Brits of today.And I'd give the edge to the Sikh warriors of India vs. the modern Brits, SAS excluded, ofc.How are they going to get to England? The Indian Navy? How much air-lift capacity does the Indian Air Force have?
SurfaceTension: Weaver95: you want that stuff back, form and army and invade. otherwise forget about it.I don't know. I'd give even odds for an army of Hindu warriors vs. the Brits of today.
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