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2013-02-21 10:05:11 AM  
harbaugh = spoiled crybaby.
 
2013-02-21 10:27:17 AM  
I make my kids go stick their nose against the wall until the stop.  Maybe they should go that route.
 
2013-02-21 11:15:36 AM  
I want it now!

I want it nooow!!!

I....I want it now!
 
2013-02-21 02:00:47 PM  
Refs will flag coaches who leave the sideline to argue calls

This just in:  Refs will no longer come within ten yards of the sidelines.
 
2013-02-21 02:02:19 PM  
If I remember correctly the Saints got a penalty for this sometime this past season.
 
2013-02-21 02:26:47 PM  
Good. About time.
 
2013-02-21 02:28:23 PM  
is wanting cake a penalty now? jeesh.
 
2013-02-21 02:37:14 PM  

thecpt: is wanting cake a penalty now? jeesh.


If wanting cake is wrong, I don't want to be right.
 
2013-02-21 02:38:44 PM  

thecpt: is wanting cake a penalty now? jeesh.


i.qkme.me
 
2013-02-21 02:39:12 PM  
When they outlaw field wandering only outlaws will wander the field.
 
2013-02-21 02:39:47 PM  
Why didn't the NFL just go all out, and call it The Jim Harbaugh Rule?
 
2013-02-21 02:39:47 PM  

Cewley: harbaugh = spoiled crybaby.


sure buddy.  Whatever you say.
 
2013-02-21 02:46:09 PM  
I'm a huge 9ers fan and I love this coach.

That said I think the cake thing is hilarious.  Yes he does complain a lot.  That's his job though to fight for his team and run the show.

Would you rather have him as a coach or someone like Coach Fox that makes bad calls?
 
2013-02-21 02:50:46 PM  
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Too large for Fark.
 
2013-02-21 02:51:32 PM  
Usually when I see 9er hate, it ends up being a punk ass Seattle fan.  Their fans are the whiniest little biatches on the planet.  They're worse than Patriots/Red Socks fans by far.
 
2013-02-21 02:56:29 PM  

Slam Dunkz: I'm a huge 9ers fan and I love this coach.

That said I think the cake thing is hilarious.  Yes he does complain a lot.  That's his job though to fight for his team and run the show.

Would you rather have him as a coach or someone like Coach Fox that makes bad calls?


Oh, I respect the hell out of him and his team.  Usually I mock out of respect unless its a Fail.  There are great coaches who repeatedly do the same dumb thing (Walrus with timeouts, Norv with screens, Mccarthy with forced play calling).  Its weird how defensive people get when something is funny to the fans of 31 other teams.
 
2013-02-21 03:02:41 PM  

AnotherBluesStringer: If I remember correctly the Saints got a penalty for this sometime this past season.



i don't remember that but i didn't watch many Saints games, as they didn't have a lot of TV time here.

but I do remember Rob Ryan get 15yds for jawboning at an opposing player.

/also, i think this officially signals the NFL getting Tired Of Harbaugh's shiat, between his haranguing of the refs at midfield and the bump and run with Jim Schwartz.
 
2013-02-21 03:03:06 PM  
Considering in the NBA a coach is liable to get T'ed up for simply saying "Sir, I respectfully disagree with the call and wish lodge a complaint", yeah, I'm fine with this.
 
2013-02-21 03:06:47 PM  

Earguy: Refs will flag coaches who leave the sideline to argue calls

This just in:  Refs will no longer come within ten yards of the sidelines.


This. I think it's a bad rule. Coaches should be able to get an immediate explanation and make a complaint. Just don't take a ton of time.

/I think John Harbaugh has successfully argued a flag away ONCE.
//Uncatchable ball on a PI. Flag was picked up after a conference after he argued.
 
2013-02-21 03:08:07 PM  
So, the long overdue Bill Cowher rule is finally happening?   Seriously, does anyone think Harbaugh is worse than Cowher was?

I would rather see news "NFL to add officals to sidelines to support the refs on the field' or "instant replay can now throw a flag on obvious violation".    The goal is to get the calls right, but the error rate is still high.
 
2013-02-21 03:10:45 PM  

Rhypskallion: So, the long overdue Bill Cowher rule is finally happening?   Seriously, does anyone think Harbaugh is worse than Cowher was?

I would rather see news "NFL to add officals to sidelines to support the refs on the field' or "instant replay can now throw a flag on obvious violation".    The goal is to get the calls right, but the error rate is still high.


I'd rather have 'challenge flags can be thrown to overturn clearly wrong penalty calls'. For the very rare time when there is no reasonable argument to be made for a call. Not a questionable or judgment call. But flat out wrong.
 
2013-02-21 03:14:50 PM  

Deneb81: I'd rather have 'challenge flags can be thrown to overturn clearly wrong penalty calls'. For the very rare time when there is no reasonable argument to be made for a call. Not a questionable or judgment call. But flat out wrong.


can we call it the gym shorts rule for teh lolz?
 
2013-02-21 03:21:07 PM  

Deneb81: Earguy: Refs will flag coaches who leave the sideline to argue calls

This just in:  Refs will no longer come within ten yards of the sidelines.

This. I think it's a bad rule. Coaches should be able to get an immediate explanation and make a complaint. Just don't take a ton of time.

/I think John Harbaugh has successfully argued a flag away ONCE.
//Uncatchable ball on a PI. Flag was picked up after a conference after he argued.


It is a tool for the refs to use when coaches like Harbaugh refuse to get off the field, or throws his shiat all over the place.  I think it's something they will keep in their pocket unless he does his flapping-arm-throw-the-headset routine.  Then they'll hit him with a penalty.  More than a few times this season, Harbaugh prolonged the game by refusing to leave the field of play when the refs asked, forcing the ref team to go over to the sidelines to tell him to get over it.  Harbaugh asking for an explanation is fine.  Harbaugh throwing shiat around and stomping like a child who just wet himself is not.

When the replacement refs were in earlier in the season, it was even worse, and Harbaugh not only refused to leave the field of play; he often threw tantrums at the yardlines.

This is a good rule, and one that was sorely needed.  Harbaugh's a good coach, but that sort of tantrum shiat makes him look like a complete asshole.

\love that Pete Carroll nearly made his head explode
\\wanted to see Pete run a fake punt while up by 30
 
2013-02-21 03:32:18 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Deneb81: Earguy: Refs will flag coaches who leave the sideline to argue calls

This just in:  Refs will no longer come within ten yards of the sidelines.

This. I think it's a bad rule. Coaches should be able to get an immediate explanation and make a complaint. Just don't take a ton of time.

/I think John Harbaugh has successfully argued a flag away ONCE.
//Uncatchable ball on a PI. Flag was picked up after a conference after he argued.

It is a tool for the refs to use when coaches like Harbaugh refuse to get off the field, or throws his shiat all over the place.  I think it's something they will keep in their pocket unless he does his flapping-arm-throw-the-headset routine.  Then they'll hit him with a penalty.  More than a few times this season, Harbaugh prolonged the game by refusing to leave the field of play when the refs asked, forcing the ref team to go over to the sidelines to tell him to get over it.  Harbaugh asking for an explanation is fine.  Harbaugh throwing shiat around and stomping like a child who just wet himself is not.

When the replacement refs were in earlier in the season, it was even worse, and Harbaugh not only refused to leave the field of play; he often threw tantrums at the yardlines.

This is a good rule, and one that was sorely needed.  Harbaugh's a good coach, but that sort of tantrum shiat makes him look like a complete asshole.

\love that Pete Carroll nearly made his head explode
\\wanted to see Pete run a fake punt while up by 30


I agree Jim's out of control at times. I just don't want to see a coach like John (slightly heated at times but not absurd) flagged because a ref is being a dick and won't explain a call.
 
2013-02-21 03:40:13 PM  
A SF player could rip an opponents head straight off with blood gushing everywhere and Harbaugh would complain about a penalty being called
 
2013-02-21 03:40:17 PM  

Deneb81: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Deneb81: Earguy: Refs will flag coaches who leave the sideline to argue calls

This just in:  Refs will no longer come within ten yards of the sidelines.

This. I think it's a bad rule. Coaches should be able to get an immediate explanation and make a complaint. Just don't take a ton of time.

/I think John Harbaugh has successfully argued a flag away ONCE.
//Uncatchable ball on a PI. Flag was picked up after a conference after he argued.

It is a tool for the refs to use when coaches like Harbaugh refuse to get off the field, or throws his shiat all over the place.  I think it's something they will keep in their pocket unless he does his flapping-arm-throw-the-headset routine.  Then they'll hit him with a penalty.  More than a few times this season, Harbaugh prolonged the game by refusing to leave the field of play when the refs asked, forcing the ref team to go over to the sidelines to tell him to get over it.  Harbaugh asking for an explanation is fine.  Harbaugh throwing shiat around and stomping like a child who just wet himself is not.

When the replacement refs were in earlier in the season, it was even worse, and Harbaugh not only refused to leave the field of play; he often threw tantrums at the yardlines.

This is a good rule, and one that was sorely needed.  Harbaugh's a good coach, but that sort of tantrum shiat makes him look like a complete asshole.

\love that Pete Carroll nearly made his head explode
\\wanted to see Pete run a fake punt while up by 30

I agree Jim's out of control at times. I just don't want to see a coach like John (slightly heated at times but not absurd) flagged because a ref is being a dick and won't explain a call.


As much as refs get abused ritually during the games, it seems that they are used to that part of the equation.  They did need a way to coerce coaches to get the hell off the field after they've explained it more than a few times, and they need to enforce the penalty against coaches who act like complete assholes.  Most refs know the coaches well and they know they get excited.  They deal with it.  But when a coach is just being abusive and not listening at all, then the flag comes out.
 
2013-02-21 03:42:05 PM  
What about a flag on players that cry and call for flags every damn time someone even tussles their hair?  I'm looking at you, Tom Brady
 
2013-02-21 03:46:27 PM  

spiderpaz: Usually when I see 9er hate, it ends up being a punk ass Seattle fan.  Their fans are the whiniest little biatches on the planet.  They're worse than Patriots/Red Socks fans by far.


U mad bro?
 
2013-02-21 03:53:55 PM  

bhcompy: What about a flag on players that cry and call for flags every damn time someone even tussles their hair?  I'm looking at you, Tom Brady


And every receiver on every incomplete pass? I wouldn't mind seeing unsportsmanlike conduct being called on anyone that gestures for a flag.
 
2013-02-21 03:53:55 PM  

stappawho: spiderpaz: Usually when I see 9er hate, it ends up being a punk ass Seattle fan.  Their fans are the whiniest little biatches on the planet.  They're worse than Patriots/Red Socks fans by far.

U mad bro?


Does rolling your eyes at whiny little biatches make you automatically mad now?
 
2013-02-21 03:54:07 PM  

bhcompy: What about a flag on players that cry and call for flags every damn time someone even tussles their hair?  I'm looking at you, Tom Brady


The league has already ruled on this. Tom Brady intentionally kicking another player is equally as bad as a player wearing the wrong socks. If you think Tom Brady will ever get anything other than a light pat on the wrist... I have bad news for you.
 
2013-02-21 03:56:03 PM  
Rather have John than Lovie, sheeeeeeeit.

rickythepenguin: AnotherBluesStringer: If I remember correctly the Saints got a penalty for this sometime this past season.

i don't remember that but i didn't watch many Saints games, as they didn't have a lot of TV time here.

but I do remember Rob Ryan get 15yds for jawboning at an opposing player.


Joe Vitt got flagged for it at one point, I forget the game but AnotherBluesStringer's right.  And I do remember Rob getting flagged, so between Payton, Vitt, and Rob, they better be like three little Fonzies this season.
 
2013-02-21 03:57:43 PM  

spiderpaz: stappawho: spiderpaz: Usually when I see 9er hate, it ends up being a punk ass Seattle fan.  Their fans are the whiniest little biatches on the planet.  They're worse than Patriots/Red Socks fans by far.

U mad bro?

Does rolling your eyes at whiny little biatches make you automatically mad now?


Right, your post screams 'eye roll'
 
2013-02-21 03:58:52 PM  

robsul82: And I do remember Rob getting flagged, so between Payton, Vitt, and Rob, they better be like three little Fonzies this season.


don't forget the caution the NFL sent all teams after that one MNF game where Fox and Jack del Rio were literally getting in the replacement ref's faces and arguing calls.  I think that was another facto rin the NFL's decision.  this isn't baseball, where arguing with the ref is part of the game.  I don't thnk Warden Goodell wnats the refs to even be put in that position, upon pain of 15yds for first offense, possibly ejection on the second.

/when is the last time (if ever) a coach has been ejected form and NFL game, a la MLB?
 
2013-02-21 04:01:44 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Deneb81: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Deneb81: Earguy: Refs will flag coaches who leave the sideline to argue calls

This just in:  Refs will no longer come within ten yards of the sidelines.

This. I think it's a bad rule. Coaches should be able to get an immediate explanation and make a complaint. Just don't take a ton of time.

/I think John Harbaugh has successfully argued a flag away ONCE.
//Uncatchable ball on a PI. Flag was picked up after a conference after he argued.

It is a tool for the refs to use when coaches like Harbaugh refuse to get off the field, or throws his shiat all over the place.  I think it's something they will keep in their pocket unless he does his flapping-arm-throw-the-headset routine.  Then they'll hit him with a penalty.  More than a few times this season, Harbaugh prolonged the game by refusing to leave the field of play when the refs asked, forcing the ref team to go over to the sidelines to tell him to get over it.  Harbaugh asking for an explanation is fine.  Harbaugh throwing shiat around and stomping like a child who just wet himself is not.

When the replacement refs were in earlier in the season, it was even worse, and Harbaugh not only refused to leave the field of play; he often threw tantrums at the yardlines.

This is a good rule, and one that was sorely needed.  Harbaugh's a good coach, but that sort of tantrum shiat makes him look like a complete asshole.

\love that Pete Carroll nearly made his head explode
\\wanted to see Pete run a fake punt while up by 30

I agree Jim's out of control at times. I just don't want to see a coach like John (slightly heated at times but not absurd) flagged because a ref is being a dick and won't explain a call.

As much as refs get abused ritually during the games, it seems that they are used to that part of the equation.  They did need a way to coerce coaches to get the hell off the field after they've explained it more than a few times, and they need to enforce the penalty against coaches who act like complete assholes.  Most refs know the coaches well and they know they get excited.  They deal with it.  But when a coach is just being abusive and not listening at all, then the flag comes out.


Agreed. Jim H's constant ref haranguing and his fisting HOLDHOLDHOLD tirade at the Super Bowl was embarassing. And I like the guy. But, seriously, man - Grow up!
 
2013-02-21 04:05:37 PM  
The 49ers probably could have used those 15 extra yards to stretch the field on that goal-line stand at the end of the super bowl. Instead you wound up with "let's keep trying to run even though they have EVERYBODY stacked on the line to stop it".

/good thing Jim called the timeout to prevent the delay of game penalty...
//yeah, they tried passing on 4th and goal - and failed because the Ravens D was all stacked in the end zone
 
2013-02-21 04:15:27 PM  

robsul82: Rather have

John Jim than Lovie, sheeeeeeeit.

Derrrr.

rickythepenguin: don't forget the caution the NFL sent all teams after that one MNF game where Fox and Jack del Rio were literally getting in the replacement ref's faces and arguing calls. I think that was another facto rin the NFL's decision. this isn't baseball, where arguing with the ref is part of the game. I don't thnk Warden Goodell wnats the refs to even be put in that position, upon pain of 15yds for first offense, possibly ejection on the second.

/when is the last time (if ever) a coach has been ejected form and NFL game, a la MLB?


Yeah, probably was.  According to a PFT article written during the replacement ref saga and angry coaches getting in their face every week, no coach has ever been ejected.
 
2013-02-21 04:16:30 PM  

germ78: The 49ers probably could have used those 15 extra yards to stretch the field on that goal-line stand at the end of the super bowl. Instead you wound up with "let's keep trying to run even though they have EVERYBODY stacked on the line to stop it".

/good thing Jim called the timeout to prevent the delay of game penalty...
//yeah, they tried passing on 4th and goal - and failed because the Ravens D was all stacked in the end zone


...they passed on 2nd and 3rd down, too.
 
2013-02-21 04:21:43 PM  

hp6sa: Why didn't the NFL just go all out, and call it The Jim Harbaugh Rule?


Hasn't this been a rule for several years, just rarely enforced unless the coach was being a super douche?
 
2013-02-21 04:23:32 PM  

Dafatone: germ78: The 49ers probably could have used those 15 extra yards to stretch the field on that goal-line stand at the end of the super bowl. Instead you wound up with "let's keep trying to run even though they have EVERYBODY stacked on the line to stop it".

/good thing Jim called the timeout to prevent the delay of game penalty...
//yeah, they tried passing on 4th and goal - and failed because the Ravens D was all stacked in the end zone

...they passed on 2nd and 3rd down, too.


Didn't they also pass on first?
 
2013-02-21 04:26:47 PM  

felching pen: Agreed. Jim H's constant ref haranguing and his fisting HOLDHOLDHOLD tirade at the Super Bowl was embarassing. And I like the guy. But, seriously, man - Grow up!


yes, a call that could have changed the outcome of the game. of course any coach would just let it go.
 
2013-02-21 04:30:33 PM  

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: felching pen: Agreed. Jim H's constant ref haranguing and his fisting HOLDHOLDHOLD tirade at the Super Bowl was embarassing. And I like the guy. But, seriously, man - Grow up!

yes, a call that could have changed the outcome of the game. of course any coach would just let it go.


Know what else could have changed the game? Better play calling. Also? Not being down 21 points 11s into the second half.
 
2013-02-21 04:35:58 PM  

Deneb81: Dafatone: germ78: The 49ers probably could have used those 15 extra yards to stretch the field on that goal-line stand at the end of the super bowl. Instead you wound up with "let's keep trying to run even though they have EVERYBODY stacked on the line to stop it".

/good thing Jim called the timeout to prevent the delay of game penalty...
//yeah, they tried passing on 4th and goal - and failed because the Ravens D was all stacked in the end zone

...they passed on 2nd and 3rd down, too.

Didn't they also pass on first?


Gore ran for a half-yard.
 
2013-02-21 04:36:58 PM  

spiderpaz: Usually when I see 9er hate, it ends up being a punk ass Seattle fan.  Their fans are the whiniest little biatches on the planet.  They're worse than Patriots/Red Socks fans by far.


This just in- Every teams fan base has some whiny fans.
 
2013-02-21 04:37:57 PM  
Crybaby Jim still 0-2 against big brother.

/Go Ravens!
 
2013-02-21 04:39:22 PM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Deneb81: Dafatone: germ78: The 49ers probably could have used those 15 extra yards to stretch the field on that goal-line stand at the end of the super bowl. Instead you wound up with "let's keep trying to run even though they have EVERYBODY stacked on the line to stop it".

/good thing Jim called the timeout to prevent the delay of game penalty...
//yeah, they tried passing on 4th and goal - and failed because the Ravens D was all stacked in the end zone

...they passed on 2nd and 3rd down, too.

Didn't they also pass on first?

Gore ran for a half-yard.


I looked it up. I remember Gore not getting the ball that series. It was LaMichael James, but yes a run for a half yard.
 
2013-02-21 04:45:02 PM  

Earguy: Refs will flag coaches who leave the sideline to argue calls

This just in:  Refs will no longer come within ten yards of the sidelines.


I actually see this becoming a reality, especially on 50-50 calls. From there, it's going to become a bigger problem when coaches realize they'll never get an explanation on the field and start calling refs out in postgame interviews, which of course leads to fines.
 
2013-02-21 04:46:29 PM  

Deneb81: Dumb-Ass-Monkey: felching pen: Agreed. Jim H's constant ref haranguing and his fisting HOLDHOLDHOLD tirade at the Super Bowl was embarassing. And I like the guy. But, seriously, man - Grow up!

yes, a call that could have changed the outcome of the game. of course any coach would just let it go.

Know what else could have changed the game? Better play calling. Also? Not being down 21 points 11s into the second half.


And of course, this changes the fact that the call was bad.

Logic, how does it work?
 
2013-02-21 04:46:54 PM  
I love Jim Harbaugh because I enjoy every media member crying big crocodile tears about how mean he is to the sportswriters and doesn't play nice.
 
2013-02-21 04:47:54 PM  
whizbangthedirtfarmer:
  More than a few times this season, Harbaugh prolonged the game by refusing to leave the field of play when the refs asked, forcing the ref team to go over to the sidelines to tell him to get over it.  Harbaugh asking for an explanation is fine.  Harbaugh throwing shiat around and stomping like a child who just wet himself is not.


Why couldn't they do that last season? AFAIK there's no reason why they couldn't say at that point, "coach, if you don't get off the field now or I'm going to flag you for delay of game/unsportsman like conduct (whatever)".
 
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