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2013-02-21 10:47:57 AM
Amusing?
 
2013-02-21 10:51:21 AM
Subby, I think you have a very loose definition of "classic" if you think Harry Potter is one of them.
 
2013-02-21 11:00:38 AM
"You're a witch, Harry"

It's true, he turned me into a newt!.
 
2013-02-21 11:06:06 AM
Amusing tag is false advertising.
 
2013-02-21 11:12:48 AM
The idea has potential. The execution, not so much.
 
2013-02-21 11:18:37 AM
Forget it, Jake. It's Orange County.
 
2013-02-21 11:57:44 AM

Seamer: Amusing?


Classic?
 
2013-02-21 12:41:48 PM
Your "shiat" drafts shouldn't be better than the original.  See, e.g., the Fifty Shades of Grey one.
 
2013-02-21 12:44:31 PM
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times
 
2013-02-21 12:45:12 PM
Not to be a dick, I don't have anything against them, but I don't think that Harry Potter counts as "classic."
 
2013-02-21 01:26:01 PM
well, in real life, the original Crime and Punishment was going to be called the Drunkard.

it was supposed to be about the drunkard who, at one point in the novel, meets a student with some dumbass ideas about murder.  basically, all of Crime and Punishment was supposed to be a very small subplot/digression in a novel about a drunk guy.

dostoevsky liked the student and wrote a lot about him...  realizing the student had taken over, he decided to make him his main character, and make the drunkard, become a small side character (marmeledov).
 
2013-02-21 01:28:03 PM

Oerath: Not to be a dick, I don't have anything against them, but I don't think that Harry Potter counts as "classic."


Not yet, at least. Still too soon. But I wager in 30 or 40 years they'll be considered classic children's lit.
 
2013-02-21 01:30:28 PM
"The sky above the port looked like it was going to rain."
 
2013-02-21 01:34:15 PM

CygnusDarius: "You're a witch, Harry"



Doesn't Hagrid actually deliver that line early in the first book?
 
2013-02-21 01:35:33 PM

shoegaze99: Oerath: Not to be a dick, I don't have anything against them, but I don't think that Harry Potter counts as "classic."

Not yet, at least. Still too soon. But I wager in 30 or 40 years they'll be considered classic children's lit.


doubt it... big blockbuster books rarely last the test of time.
 
2013-02-21 01:43:45 PM

pute kisses like a man: doubt it... big blockbuster books rarely last the test of time.


I could make a long, long list of books that sold big during their time and that have stood the test of time as popular and beloved works. While many of today's classics weren't big in their day, just as many were.

At this point, it's pretty clear that Harry Potter wasn't a passing fad or flash in the pan. It will unquestionably still be with us in a few decades.

Hunger Games, 50 Shades, etc.? Yes, they are of their time. These things will fade. Harry Potter isn't and won't.
 
2013-02-21 01:47:02 PM

shoegaze99: Oerath: Not to be a dick, I don't have anything against them, but I don't think that Harry Potter counts as "classic."

Not yet, at least. Still too soon. But I wager in 30 or 40 years they'll be considered classic children's lit.


So, it's The Hobbit a children's classic?.
 
2013-02-21 01:50:01 PM
Oblig. matching rule 63:

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2013-02-21 01:53:59 PM
I want to slip a knife into that tumblr owner's hand as they pat themselves on the back over how funny they seem to think they are.
 
2013-02-21 01:54:55 PM

CygnusDarius: So, it's The Hobbit a children's classic?.


Is there even a question that it is? It's still popular, it's taught in schools, it has stood the test of time, it's to some extent respected, it shows up in various other media. The Hobbit is by almost any measure a children's classic.
 
2013-02-21 02:06:13 PM
I liked that list.
 
2013-02-21 02:07:17 PM

Myria: Oblig. matching rule 63:

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Looks like Female Harry has a mullet that would be the envy of all rednecks.
 
2013-02-21 02:45:59 PM

Zombie Eater: I want to slip a knife into that tumblr owner's hand as they pat themselves on the back over how funny they seem to think they are.


Then the greased hand off the mod who loves a good ShortList post. May they share their poor sense of humour alone in death.
 
2013-02-21 03:03:37 PM

pute kisses like a man: doubt it... big blockbuster books rarely last the test of time.


It depends.  Children's books tend to age differently.  While no one reads Horatio Alger or Tom Swift books to their kids any more, Alice in Wonderland, Winnie the Pooh and the Seuss books are still staggeringly popular all these years later.  In a century or so, kids might stop reading Harry Potter, but it's going to take a long time for them to date.
 
2013-02-21 03:29:45 PM
For crying out loud, "shiat" is a noun, not an adjective.

Headline should be "Shiatty rough drafts..."

/England, stop doing this stuff to our language.
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2013-02-21 03:36:06 PM
According the introduction I had to read for "The Great Gatsby", one of Fitzgerald's original ideas for the title was "The High-Bouncing Lover". That's worse than anything in that tumblr.
 
2013-02-21 03:52:16 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Subby, I think you have a very loose definition of "classic" if you think Harry Potter is one of them.


Some people define classis as presently popular and older then themselves...

shoegaze99: At this point, it's pretty clear that Harry Potter wasn't a passing fad or flash in the pan. It will unquestionably still be with us in a few decades.

Hunger Games, 50 Shades, etc.? Yes, they are of their time. These things will fade. Harry Potter isn't and won't.


Where do you place Twilight?
 
2013-02-21 04:15:18 PM
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Engelbert Humperdinck?
 
2013-02-21 04:19:22 PM

sjmcc13: Where do you place Twilight?


I really don't know. I was going to include it in my list, but decided to leave it off. I want to say that it will fade, and that in 10 years it will just be a relic of the last few years. I'm pretty sure that will be the case. But it's teenage girl stuff, and I don't really have a sense for teenage girl stuff. To me, it's all flash-in-the-pan trends.
 
2013-02-21 04:41:18 PM
Stephen King called Harry Potter a classic. He said it would be remembered like Peter Pan and Alice and Wonderland.

I agree. It will last.
 
2013-02-21 05:27:16 PM

DVDave


Engelbert Humperdinck?


Yes? Oh, sorry.
 
2013-02-21 05:54:49 PM
Girl with the Dragon Tattoo is called "Män som hatar kvinnor", ("Men who hate women"), in its original language, so that would be the translator's draft then? As is, the translation leaves quite a bit to be desired if you ask me.
 
2013-02-21 06:45:07 PM
"It was a dark and stormy cocktail; the dark rum and ginger beer fell in torrents - except at occasional intervals, when it was checked by a violent splash of lime..."
 
2013-02-21 06:51:00 PM
"War, What Is It Good For?"
 
2013-02-21 06:54:32 PM
"Call me Ishtar."

"Tequila, light of my lunch, fire of my loins."

"I am a sick man... I am a spit full man."

"Mrs. Dalloway said: screw you!  I'll buy the flowers my own damn self!"

"It was a pleasure to burn... weed."
 
2013-02-21 07:35:29 PM
 
2013-02-21 07:44:51 PM
25.media.tumblr.com

Science edition
 
2013-02-22 02:22:37 AM

Dwight_Yeast: In a century or so, kids might stop reading Harry Potter, but it's going to take a long time for them to date.


This may surprise you, but many fans of Harry Potter actually started to date like 10 years ago.  Kids grow up.
 
2013-02-22 02:48:42 AM
I Mehd Out Loud
 
2013-02-22 10:44:03 AM
sjmcc13:
Where do you place Twilight?

In an incinerator.
 
2013-02-22 02:46:30 PM
50 shades of Grey one was pretty good.  The rest were kind of meh.  Whatever though, its not like my time is valuable.
 
2013-02-22 03:05:00 PM
I read all the Harry Potter books and enjoyed them, then my wife got them on audio ( Jim Dale is amazing ) and I am so farking sick of them now
 
2013-02-24 11:32:30 AM

shoegaze99: pute kisses like a man: doubt it... big blockbuster books rarely last the test of time.

I could make a long, long list of books that sold big during their time and that have stood the test of time as popular and beloved works. While many of today's classics weren't big in their day, just as many were.


while many classics were great sellers in their time, even the very successful classics were generally not the super block buster.

there was a book on this from some NYU professor. He went back a couple hundred years to see the most published books of every year.  although some classics were successful, the big super sellers year in and year out were almost never the timeless classics we think of when looking back to that time period.  i didn't read the book, but I read an interesting new yorker article on the book.  might be pretty easy to find online (i read it in print back in the day -- probably published 5+ years ago).

of course, that's just some statistics and not really important when studying the instance of one book series.  so, we'll have the pleasure of knowing only in time.
 
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