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2013-02-21 10:46:00 AM
If he wins, I am SO hiring a lawyer.
 
2013-02-21 10:46:17 AM
Where will his lawyer send the bill for this unsuccessful lawsuit?!?
 
2013-02-21 10:46:27 AM
The guy is on the right path. We live a twisted world where it is harder to get a driver's license than a gun, and have a baby without any training, job, resources, intellect, etc...
 
2013-02-21 10:46:40 AM
What that kid obviously needs is a good swift kick in the ass.
 
2013-02-21 10:47:54 AM
Statute of Limitations on parental crimes runs out at 30.

After that, it's all your own fault.
 
2013-02-21 10:47:57 AM
I bet he wins.

/puts $1000 on Jets to win Super Bowl
 
2013-02-21 10:48:53 AM
Bey wrote in the suit. "I am not entitled to receive anything from an asset he owns."

Looks like the defense won this case before it was even filed.
 
2013-02-21 10:49:20 AM
"I live in the projects. You want to sue me? What's next, you coming to shoot up my door?" the mother said sadly.

She shouldn't give this idiot any ideas!
 
2013-02-21 10:49:37 AM
"Mom always jacked you off first!"
 
2013-02-21 10:50:10 AM

ajgeek: What that kid obviously needs is a good swift kick in the ass.


I would let it slide if the guy was 21, but at 32 you are an adult (Whether or not you have your shiat together).
 
2013-02-21 10:50:16 AM
Front line infantry.
 
2013-02-21 10:51:02 AM
I wish more judges would allow these cases to go through and then award them something like $56.75. Every frivolous lawsuit should go through an electronic system where judges just get a text message and they reply with ridiculously low amounts.

That should discourage leeches like the black nurse who didn't get to care for the nazi baby.  $8.00 for your pain and suffering.
 
2013-02-21 10:51:17 AM
Wow, 32-years-old and he hasn't let his balls drop.

Grow up son; get a life, get a job, get a woman and fark off.
 
2013-02-21 10:51:37 AM
Frankly, if he can even contemplate such a suit, he's got a case.

(Which is not to say it's a good case, or that there aren't intervening causal factors, but there's certainly a prima facie bad parenting argument to be made.)
 
2013-02-21 10:52:44 AM
Sounds like the parents are real winners. If he truly is trying to get his life back on track, the parents probably should chip in. Not sure a lawsuit will accomplish that, but hell, the situation is already farked here, so who knows.
Sounds like a case of the parents committing major neglect, then booting him as soon as he turned 18 and the statute of limitations on child neglect expired.
 
2013-02-21 10:54:03 AM

pippi longstocking: The guy is on the right path. We live a twisted world where it is harder to get a driver's license than a gun, and have a baby without any training, job, resources, intellect, etc...


When in history did anyone require training to have a kid?
 
2013-02-21 10:56:50 AM

lockers: ajgeek: What that kid obviously needs is a good swift kick in the ass.

I would let it slide if the guy was 21, but at 32 you are an adult (Whether or not you have your shiat together).


Yes, because if you're never given any tools or knowledge on how to live in the real world, once you hit a certain age everything is your fault.
After a while some things are your fault, yes, but if you were never given the right tools, you can't really fix something.

Are there basic life skills courses in places like job centers? Free courses on things like taxes, social interaction, holding down a job, and various other things you need in life would be a good idea.
 
2013-02-21 11:00:20 AM
Sue for too little love? I'll remember to file a lawsuit the next time  I get shot down at the bar.
 
2013-02-21 11:02:57 AM
Maybe he should just do the opposite of everything he has ever done
 
2013-02-21 11:03:08 AM

doczoidberg: If he wins, I am SO hiring a lawyer.


In France, he WOULD win.
As his parents would win, if it were the other way, unless the child can prove that their parents were particularly unfit.
 
2013-02-21 11:04:03 AM
Damn... with that mentality, I've be able to sue all my relatives, schools, etc.  as they all failed me miserably.
 
2013-02-21 11:04:25 AM

Pichu0102: lockers: ajgeek: What that kid obviously needs is a good swift kick in the ass.

I would let it slide if the guy was 21, but at 32 you are an adult (Whether or not you have your shiat together).

Yes, because if you're never given any tools or knowledge on how to live in the real world, once you hit a certain age everything is your fault.
After a while some things are your fault, yes, but if you were never given the right tools, you can't really fix something.

Are there basic life skills courses in places like job centers? Free courses on things like taxes, social interaction, holding down a job, and various other things you need in life would be a good idea.


You're confused about what my post says. ajgeek called him a kid. I pointed out that at 32 your not remotely a kid.
 
2013-02-21 11:05:29 AM
Is God to blame?

YES!

Here's why: "LET ME EXPLAIN THE problem science has with Jesus Christ.

The atheist professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of his new students to stand.

"You're a Christian, aren't you, son?"
"Yes, sir."
"So you believe in God?"
"Absolutely."
"Is God good?"
"Sure! God's good."
"Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?"
"Yes."
"Are you good or evil?"
"The Bible says I'm evil."
The professor grins knowingly. "Ahh! THE BIBLE!"
He considers for a moment. "Here's one for you.
Let's say there's a sick person over here, and you can cure him. You can do it. Would you help them? Would you try?"
"Yes sir, I would."
"So you're good...!"
"I wouldn't say that."
"Why not say that? You would help a sick and maimed person if you could...in fact most of us would if we could... God doesn't."
No answer.
"He doesn't, does he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer even though he prayed to Jesus to heal him. How is this Jesus good? Hmmm? Can you answer that one?"
No answer.
The elderly man is sympathetic. "No, you can't, can you?" He takes a sip of water from a glass on his desk to give the student time to relax. In philosophy, you have to go easy with the new ones.
"Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?"
"Er... Yes."
"Is Satan good?"
"No."
"Where does Satan come from?"
The student falters. "From...God..."
"That's right. God made Satan, didn't he?" The elderly man runs his bony fingers through his thinning hair and turns, smirking, to the student audience. "I think we're going to have a lot of fun this semester, ladies and gentlemen." He turns back to the Christian. "Tell me, son. Is there evil in this world?"
"Yes, sir."
"Evil's everywhere, isn't it? Did God make everything?"
"Yes."
"Who created evil?"
No answer.
"Is there sickness in this world? Immorality?
Hatred? Ugliness? All the terrible things - do they exist in this world?"
The student squirms on his feet. "Yes."
"Who created them?"
No answer.
The professor suddenly shouts at his student. "WHO
CREATED THEM? TELL ME, PLEASE!" The professor closes in for the kill and climb into the Christian's face. In a still small voice: "God created all evil, didn't He, son?"
No answer. The student tries to hold the steady, experienced gaze and fails. Suddenly the lecturer breaks away to pace the front of the classroom like an aging panther. The class is mesmerized. "Tell me," he continues, "How is it that this God is good if He created all evil throughout all time?" The professor swishes his arms around to enc
ompass the wickedness of the world.
"All the hatred, the brutality, all the pain, all the torture, all the death and ugliness and all the suffering created by this good God is all over the world, isn't it, young man?"
No answer.
"Don't you see it all over the place? Huh?" Pause.
"Don't you?" The professor leans into the student's face again and whispers, "Is God good?"
No answer.
"Do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?"
The student's voice betrays him and cracks. "Yes, professor. I do."
The old man shakes his head sadly. "Science says you have five senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Have you ever seen your Jesus?"
"No, sir. I've never seen Him."
"Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?"
"No, sir. I have not."
"Have you ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your Jesus... In fact, do you have any sensory perception of your God whatsoever?"
No answer.
"Answer me, please."
"No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't."
"You're AFRAID... you haven't?"
"No, sir."
"Yet you still believe in him?"
"...yes..."
"That takes FAITH!"
The professor smiles sagely at the underling. "According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son? Where is your God now?"
The student doesn't answer.
"Sit down, please."
The Christian sits...Defeated.
Another Christian raises his hand. "Professor, may I address the class?"
The professor turns and smiles. "Ah, another Christian in the vanguard! Come, come, young man. Speak some proper wisdom to the gathering."
The Christian looks around the room. "Some interesting points you are making, sir. Now I've got a question for you. Is there such thing as heat?"
"Yes," the professor replies. "There's heat."
"Is there such a thing as cold?"
"Yes, son, there's cold too."
"No, sir, there isn't."
The professor's grin freezes. The room suddenly goes very cold.
The second Christian continues. "You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We can hit 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold, otherwise we would be able to go colder than 458 -You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it." Silence. A pin drops somewhere in the classroom. "Is there such a thing as darkness, professor?"
"That's a dumb question, son. What is night if it isn't darkness? What are you getting at...?"
"So you say there is such a thing as darkness?"
"Yes..."
"You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something, it is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light, but if you have no light constantly, you have nothing, and it's called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word. In reality, Darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker and give me a jar of it. Can you...give me a jar of darker darkness, professor?"
Despite himself, the professor smiles at the young effrontery before him. This will indeed be a good semester. "Would you mind telling us what your point is, young man?"
"Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start with and so your conclusion must be in error...."
The professor goes toxic. "Flawed...? How dare you...!"
"Sir, may I explain what I mean?" The class is all ears.
"Explain... oh, explain..." The professor makes an admirable effort to regain control. Suddenly he is affability itself. He waves his hand to silence the class, for the student to continue.
"You are working on the premise of duality," the Christian explains "That for example there is life and then here's death; a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science cannot even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism but has never seen, much less fully understood them. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, merely the absence of it." The young man holds up a newspaper he takes from the desk of a neighbor who has been reading it. "Here is one of the most disgusting tabloids this country hosts, professor. Is there such a thing as immorality?"
"Of course there is, now look..."
"Wrong again, sir. You see, immorality is merely the absence of morality. Is there such thing as injustice? No. Injustice is the absence of justice. Is there such a thing as evil?" The Christian pauses. "Isn't evil the absence of good?"
The professor's face has turned an alarming color. He is so angry he is temporarily speechless.
The Christian continues. "If there is evil in the world, professor, and we all agree there is, then God, if he exists, must be accomplishing a work through the agency of evil. What is that work, God is accoplishing? The Bible tells us it is to see if each one of us will, of our own free will, choose good over evil."
The professor bridles. "As a philosophical scientist, I don't view this matter as having anything to do with any choice; as a realist, I absolutely do not recognize the concept of God or any other theological factor as being part of the world equation because God is not observable."
"I would have thought that the absence of God's moral code in this world is probably one of the most observable phenomena going," the Christian replies.
"Newspapers make billions of dollars reporting it every week! Tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?"
"If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes, of course I do."
"Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?"
The professor makes a sucking sound with his teeth and gives his student a silent, stony stare.
"Professor. Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a priest?"
"I'll overlook your impudence in the light of our philosophical discussion. Now, have you quite finished?" the professor hisses.
"So you don't accept God's moral code to do what is righteous?"
"I believe in what is - that's science!"
"Ahh! SCIENCE!" the student's face spits into a grin. "Sir, you rightly state that science is the study of observed phenomena. Science too is a premise which is flawed..."
"SCIENCE IS FLAWED..?" the professor splutters.
The class is in uproar. The Christian remains standing until the commotion has subsided. "To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, may I give you an example of what I mean?"
The professor wisely keeps silent.
The Christian looks around the room. "Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the professor's brain?"
The class breaks out in laughter.
The Christian points towards his elderly, crumbling tutor. "Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain... felt the professor's brain, touched or smelt the professor's brain?"
No one appears to have done so.
The Christian shakes his head sadly. "It appears no-one here has had any sensory perception of the professor's brain whatsoeer. Well, according to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says the professor has no brain."
The class is in chaos.
The Christian sits... Because that is what a chair is for.
 
2013-02-21 11:07:48 AM
Half-right. He shouldn't be suing them. And 32 is a bit past due.

But if a 20-something doesn't have their shiat together, imo more parents should be getting a bill for anything between "ride in a cop car" and "booking fee" to "social services consumed."
 
2013-02-21 11:08:26 AM

Pichu0102: lockers: ajgeek: What that kid obviously needs is a good swift kick in the ass.

I would let it slide if the guy was 21, but at 32 you are an adult (Whether or not you have your shiat together).

Yes, because if you're never given any tools or knowledge on how to live in the real world, once you hit a certain age everything is your fault.
After a while some things are your fault, yes, but if you were never given the right tools, you can't really fix something.

Are there basic life skills courses in places like job centers? Free courses on things like taxes, social interaction, holding down a job, and various other things you need in life would be a good idea.


It's called high school. They usually have some degree of an Econ class in your senior year. You interact with your classmates, you are responsible to attend and do the required course work (akin to having a job). Fairly sure if this dude tried at life rather than being a druggo, he would have been just fine.
 
2013-02-21 11:09:25 AM
It amazes me that people assume that franchises are a road to riches. Even the most profitable ones are not that great for owner-operators. Remember the corporation always takes their fee regardless of your performance. Then they take their cut of your sales. Then they make you pay for improvements, training, insurance etc, etc. Worst of all, you are not the owner of anything as the equipment is leased from the corporation. As is the land where your restaurant stands.

So basically you are a non-paid manager, bound by contracts to stay with the corporation for the rest of your life, unless you sell at a loss.

The only people that can survice "owning" franchises are those who can operate multiple locations. Want a Papa John's franchise? You need at least 10 stores to make money. A McDonald's owner operator runs an average of 20 stores.

You need to make up for those stores that have bad quarters.

stop dreaming about buying a franchise.  Want to make money? Sell a franchise to some dreamer
 
2013-02-21 11:09:57 AM
At least it wasn't this guy:

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2013-02-21 11:12:16 AM
Sound like a liberal
 
2013-02-21 11:14:50 AM
Liberals are funny and sad at the same time...
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2013-02-21 11:20:01 AM
The parents probably have a lot to do with his current decision making ability due to their lack of parenting as he was growing up, however they should not have to take responsibility for this man's current actions since they are no longer his legal guardians.
 
2013-02-21 11:32:09 AM

Profedius: The parents probably have a lot to do with his current decision making ability due to their lack of parenting as he was growing up, however they should not have to take responsibility for this man's current actions since they are no longer his legal guardians.


^^^^^* a whole lot of this.

I had shiatty parents, so what? Do they owe me anything? Nope.
 
2013-02-21 12:06:12 PM
As someone paying not just allowance, but rent, tuition, books, and insurance for a 24 year old who has been in junior college for 5 years with no end in sight, I don't even know how to feel about this.
 
2013-02-21 12:13:57 PM
Sounds like Thanksgiving this year might be a bit awkward.
 
2013-02-21 12:22:04 PM
My son recently turned 18. I told him happy birthday by saying 'This now completes my legal obligations to you."
 
2013-02-21 12:24:13 PM
Awwwwww, unloved and abandoned? Welcome to earth, little man.

Now get to work or get some meds.
 
2013-02-21 12:28:47 PM
See...
I'm certainly not saying certain people are great visionaries...
Of course, things they've done are terrible and unforgivable...
BUT...
Ideas like pulling this piece of shiat off the side of the road and putting him into a FORCED labor camp...
Make all the sense in the world to me.
fark him! He's young, healthy...there's no reason he shouldn't be contributing to the betterment of our society.
If he's not going to do it willingly...I say make em do it!!!
Chain gang style if need be.
Or, you can choose to have a bullet in the head.
But, in my perfect world, no way a piece of shiat just DECIDES to be a blight and burden on society. A tax drain.
Bullshiat!
 
2013-02-21 12:33:12 PM
Somebody see if Karl Malone was playing the Knicks 32 years and nine months ago.  I'm too lazy.
 
2013-02-21 12:41:01 PM
At least he is trying to better himself with education.  Hopefully that will work out for him and he can let go of his bad childhood.
 
2013-02-21 12:44:00 PM
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2013-02-21 12:47:00 PM
The only reasons he is suing his parents is because they are easier marks for him than trying to get money back from their drug dealers.
 
2013-02-21 01:12:27 PM
FTFA:   Everyone in America has the same opportunity.

Really?
I wonder what color the sky is in his world.

This guy missed some opportunities when he was young or he wouldn't be where he is now, however children primarily learn from their parents and bad parents can mess up a person for life. That being said, what you make of yourself depends on you. Sure, you may have a lot more obstacles than most and fewer resources, but your life is what you make of it.
 
2013-02-21 01:36:04 PM
This is what happens when you give blue ribbons to every kid for simply participating.
 
2013-02-21 01:56:47 PM

Green Scorpio: This is what happens when you give blue ribbons to every kid for simply participating.


Word.
 
2013-02-21 02:04:50 PM
FTA:

Bey claims in the self-filed Brooklyn Supreme Court suit that as a child his father beat him, called him "bastard" and "motherf--ker" and did drugs right in front of him... Manley said Bey was his stepson and dismissed the suit. "He's not related to me. He's not my son," Manley said.

Uh-huh. Really. So I'm not taking Bey's side but I won't side against him either.
 
2013-02-21 02:11:02 PM

Crewmannumber6: My son recently turned 18. I told him happy birthday by saying 'This now completes my legal obligations to you."


Dad?

Thats the same thing my dad said to me too but he gave me a beer when he did. A year later he got me drunk and talked me into joining the Army because he and mom wanted their house back. That was the only good decision I ever made when drunk.
 
2013-02-21 02:16:23 PM

Gimli_Gloin: Green Scorpio: This is what happens when you give blue ribbons to every kid for simply participating.

Word.


Now that kids can be on their parents health insurance until they are 26 I expect to see a lot more of this kind of thing, the genie is out of the bottle now. If you wont take care of your full grown adult children the government probably will.
 
2013-02-21 02:16:46 PM

Crewmannumber6: My son recently turned 18. I told him happy birthday by saying 'This now completes my legal obligations to you."


You tell them happy birthday by buying them Samsonite luggage.
 
2013-02-21 02:21:32 PM

Green Scorpio: Crewmannumber6: My son recently turned 18. I told him happy birthday by saying 'This now completes my legal obligations to you."

You tell them happy birthday by buying them Samsonite luggage.


My grandparents gave luggage as high school graduation gifts to my mom and uncles
 
2013-02-21 02:22:24 PM
I would so do that buy I have more money than my parents. :(
 
2013-02-21 02:31:45 PM

The One True TheDavid: Manley said Bey was his stepson and dismissed the suit.


Pretty sure Defendants don't get to do that.
 
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