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2013-02-21 09:03:19 AM  
That name sounds Muslimy. I wonder if he spoke to Friends of Hamas too?
 
2013-02-21 09:10:13 AM  

WTF Indeed: That name sounds Muslimy. I wonder if he spoke to Friends of Hamas too?


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"Haslam chop!"

OK, TN Farkers.  What's the scoop on this guy?
 
2013-02-21 09:13:40 AM  
WHAR HAWT DAUGHTERS? WHAR?
 
2013-02-21 09:16:11 AM  

WTF Indeed: That name sounds Muslimy. I wonder if he spoke to Friends of Hamas too?


to be fair, wasn't the entire Reagan administration a friend of Hamas?

/I love keeping Huntsman alive on fark, even when the article doesn't relate to him at all
//he should pay me for these ^_^
 
2013-02-21 09:20:01 AM  

somedude210: to be fair, wasn't the entire Reagan administration a friend of Hamas?


And the Taliban.  Gave them material support and everything.
 
2013-02-21 09:34:02 AM  
I was wondering when the GOP would get around to making Haslam a star.

In case anyone is curious about his background, his family owns the Pilot gas station company.
 
2013-02-21 09:35:43 AM  
Oh, and in case anyone is wondering why he wasn't on the front lines of the Obamacare fight, it's because the AG in Tennessee is also elected, and he refused to file a suit on it.
 
2013-02-21 10:04:22 AM  

Gulper Eel: WHAR HAWT DAUGHTERS? WHAR?


f*ck that, WHAR HOT POLITICIAN WHAR

/he's a silver fox!

somedude210: //he should pay me for these ^_^


You're a gentleman and a scholar.
 
2013-02-21 10:05:51 AM  
aka "The Richest Family in Tennessee".

www.ktvq.com
 
2013-02-21 10:05:59 AM  
FTFA Tennessee governor

Stopped reading right there.  He will never make it in national politics.  To many people from the civilized world vote.
 
2013-02-21 10:07:14 AM  

tricycleracer: aka "The Richest Family in Tennessee".

[www.ktvq.com image 720x480]


Oh, and his older brother owns the Cleveland Browns.
 
2013-02-21 10:07:22 AM  

Citrate1007: FTFA Tennessee governor

Stopped reading right there.  He will never make it in national politics.  To many people from the civilized world vote.


Better tell Al Gore that.
 
2013-02-21 10:08:35 AM  

tricycleracer: tricycleracer: aka "The Richest Family in Tennessee".

[www.ktvq.com image 720x480]

Oh, and his older brother owns the Cleveland Browns.


That's the only reason I'd heard of him.

/Browns fan
 
2013-02-21 10:08:35 AM  
The GOP will use a non-Southern candidate in the next national election.
 
2013-02-21 10:08:37 AM  
2008: Sarah Palin is the GOP's RISING STAR!
2010: Marco Rubio is the GOP's FUTURE!
2011: Michelle Bachmann Rick Perry Herman Cain Rick Santorum? Are you serious?  Fark this.
2012: We're going to run Romney.  I'm not sure why, no.
January 2013: MARCO RUBIO IS THE FUTURE AGAIN!
February 2013: Ok, so that didn't work out, but HASLAM!?  He's our guy!  This guy will fix our systemic and demographic problems!

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2013-02-21 10:10:11 AM  
I don't get the Huntsman love. He's the same Republican policy positions in a slightly less derpy candy shell. He's anti-gay marriage and proposed eliminating the capital gains tax and and lowering the corporate tax rate, for Christ's sake.
 
2013-02-21 10:10:20 AM  

Diogenes: somedude210: to be fair, wasn't the entire Reagan administration a friend of Hamas?

And the Taliban.  Gave them material support and everything.


Hell, he even authorized sending Rambo out there to train them.
 
2013-02-21 10:10:53 AM  

GAT_00: I was wondering when the GOP would get around to making Haslam a star.

In case anyone is curious about his background, his family owns the Pilot gas station company.


Kinda hard to see the "star" potential.  IF the Poltico article is right, the Derp-wing fo the GOP has veto-proof majorities in both houses of his state legilslature, so the only thing he can do is "not sign" bills he finds too extreme (and then they become law anyway).  I find it impossible to believe that the GOP would see presidential potential in a governor so weak that he's essentially a cermonial figurehead-oh, right, forgot about him:
www.smh.com.au
 
2013-02-21 10:11:06 AM  
I don't know anything about him, but I'm pretty sure that to get a 68 percent approval rate in Tennessee, you have to herp a derp like few derps have herped in the history of hurrdurr.
 
Bf+
2013-02-21 10:11:31 AM  
To be fair, the GOP's best bet has always been someone you haven't heard of.
 
2013-02-21 10:14:30 AM  

LockeOak: I don't get the Huntsman love. He's the same Republican policy positions in a slightly less derpy candy shell. He's anti-gay marriage and proposed eliminating the capital gains tax and and lowering the corporate tax rate, for Christ's sake.


Because he's sane, he's willing to work across the aisle and he doesn't alienate the Left as a part of his core policy. People on both sides in Utah were sad to see him go, for exactly these reasons. The Left doesn't want a Rightie candidate that is a Lefty in disguise, they just want someone who doesn't get on the news and vilify the Left on an hourly basis. Not only that, but if anoyone on the Right seems able to modify their views on things like Gay marriage, it's Huntsman.
 
2013-02-21 10:16:45 AM  

LockeOak: I don't get the Huntsman love. He's the same Republican policy positions in a slightly less derpy candy shell. He's anti-gay marriage and proposed eliminating the capital gains tax and and lowering the corporate tax rate, for Christ's sake.


How about Chris Christie? He's different because he yells at people.
 
2013-02-21 10:19:33 AM  

somedude210: WTF Indeed: That name sounds Muslimy. I wonder if he spoke to Friends of Hamas too?

to be fair, wasn't the entire Reagan administration a friend of Hamas?

/I love keeping Huntsman alive on fark, even when the article doesn't relate to him at all
//he should pay me for these ^_^


Why would some greedy piece of shiat born with a golden spoon in his mouth who supports the Ryan budget be a good thing, or anything other than the usual in republicans?
 
2013-02-21 10:20:22 AM  

Mikey1969: they just want someone who doesn't get on the news and vilify the Left on an hourly basis


No, we want someone who won't cut Social Security and funnel the money to Wall Street. Huntsman is the poster boy for fake, "centrist", Bloombergian, bankster-approved, Morning Joe, Fix the Debt, Simpson-Bowles bullshiat.
 
2013-02-21 10:21:54 AM  

Sandelaphon: somedude210: WTF Indeed: That name sounds Muslimy. I wonder if he spoke to Friends of Hamas too?

to be fair, wasn't the entire Reagan administration a friend of Hamas?

/I love keeping Huntsman alive on fark, even when the article doesn't relate to him at all
//he should pay me for these ^_^

Why would some greedy piece of shiat born with a golden spoon in his mouth who supports the Ryan budget be a good thing, or anything other than the usual in republicans?


Apparently believing in gravity is enough "reaching across the aisle" to get bi-partisan panties wet.
 
2013-02-21 10:22:13 AM  
An old white male from the south?!  This changes everything!
 
2013-02-21 10:22:35 AM  

LockeOak: I don't get the Huntsman love. He's the same Republican policy positions in a slightly less derpy candy shell. He's anti-gay marriage and proposed eliminating the capital gains tax and and lowering the corporate tax rate, for Christ's sake.


He doesn't froth at the mouth which means Huntsman is "moderate" and "reasonable." At least to most of the punditocracy and Fark Independents™.
 
2013-02-21 10:24:25 AM  
 
2013-02-21 10:25:35 AM  

LockeOak: I don't get the Huntsman love. He's the same Republican policy positions in a slightly less derpy candy shell. He's anti-gay marriage and proposed eliminating the capital gains tax and and lowering the corporate tax rate, for Christ's sake.


Because he's a silver fox.  Oh, and, uh, something about his daughters.

Yeah, he seems OK with "civil unions" but not gay marriage.  As far as a lot of Republicans go out there, that's definitely more centrist.  He's no Dick Cheney, that's for sure.

/and then you got *our* governor, LePage, who is against gay marriage...straight marriage and any other form of marriage.  He thinks it should ALL be civil unions.  Link
 
2013-02-21 10:25:43 AM  

LockeOak: I don't get the Huntsman love. He's the same Republican policy positions in a slightly less derpycandy shell. He's anti-gay marriage and proposed eliminating the capital gains tax and and lowering the corporate tax rate, for Christ's sake.


There you go, he can make the GOP positions seem less extreme.
 
2013-02-21 10:26:47 AM  
FTFA The profile also attributes Haslam's successes in part to presiding over the GOP-dominated Legislature in a non-swing state.

Yeah seems ready for primetime.
 
2013-02-21 10:28:43 AM  

Diogenes: WTF Indeed: That name sounds Muslimy. I wonder if he spoke to Friends of Hamas too?

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 300x225]

"Haslam chop!"

OK, TN Farkers.  What's the scoop on this guy?

Another Fundie Silver-spooner with these surprising positions.



Haslam was formerly a member of the Mayors Against Illegal Guns Coalition but resigned early in 2009 and became a member of the National Rifle Association. Haslam is pro-life and opposes gay marriage,  He stated that he favors cracking down on businesses that employ illegal immigrants, and suggested he would sign a law requiring law enforcement officers to check the citizenship status of arrested individuals they suspect might be in the country illegally,
Bill Haslam endorsed Mitt Romney for the Republican nomination in the 2012 United States presidential election.
Haslam's father was the Tennessee state co-chairman for the Romney campaign.
 
2013-02-21 10:29:04 AM  

TofuTheAlmighty: LockeOak: I don't get the Huntsman love. He's the same Republican policy positions in a slightly less derpy candy shell. He's anti-gay marriage and proposed eliminating the capital gains tax and and lowering the corporate tax rate, for Christ's sake.

He doesn't froth at the mouth which means Huntsman is "moderate" and "reasonable." At least to most of the punditocracy and Fark Independents™.


The thing that struck me most odd about Huntsman during the primaries was how fanatical he seemed to be about the Wall.  He really wanted to keep those brown people out.

For my part, though, I was mostly worried about seeing someone like Crazy Eyes or Mr. Frothy getting the nomination.  I wasn't overly-impressed with R'Money, but he was still a better choice than most of the rest of the field...which is not saying much.
 
2013-02-21 10:31:42 AM  
After going through 2011-2012 and seeing approximately one article per day from major news organizations featuring Jon Huntsman as "the GOP presidential candidate you've never heard of," I think by now people have heard of Jon Huntsman.  Also, "star" is probably not the right word, given his distinct lack of support from within the party.
 
2013-02-21 10:33:14 AM  

xanadian: I wasn't overly-impressed with R'Money, but he was still a better choice than most of the rest of the field.


Really? Even the sex predator who quoted Pokemon?
 
2013-02-21 10:39:42 AM  

Goetz: Diogenes: WTF Indeed: That name sounds Muslimy. I wonder if he spoke to Friends of Hamas too?

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 300x225]

"Haslam chop!"

OK, TN Farkers.  What's the scoop on this guy?

Another Fundie Silver-spooner with these surprising positions.


Haslam was formerly a member of the Mayors Against Illegal Guns Coalition but resigned early in 2009 and became a member of the National Rifle Association. Haslam is pro-life and opposes gay marriage,  He stated that he favors cracking down on businesses that employ illegal immigrants, and suggested he would sign a law requiring law enforcement officers to check the citizenship status of arrested individuals they suspect might be in the country illegally,
Bill Haslam endorsed Mitt Romney for the Republican nomination in the 2012 United States presidential election.
Haslam's father was the Tennessee state co-chairman for the Romney campaign.


Lovely.
 
2013-02-21 10:40:19 AM  

LockeOak: I don't get the Huntsman love. He's the same Republican policy positions in a slightly less derpy candy shell. He's anti-gay marriage and proposed eliminating the capital gains tax and and lowering the corporate tax rate, for Christ's sake.


This is all the mouth breathers want.  They keep getting slaughtered because of their failed policies and they refuse to change their policies so it is a matter of finding the most polished turd.
 
2013-02-21 10:40:26 AM  
FTFA: Describing Haslam's hallmark as being able to enact "conservative change while avoiding conflict," the report presents a brief biography of the governor and details certain achievements since being elected, such as civil service reform, teacher tenure reform, tort reform and charter school expansion.


Well no shiat.  It's farking Tennessee.  He could probably bring back debtors' prisons without any opposition.
 
2013-02-21 10:42:50 AM  

spongeboob: FTFA The profile also attributes Haslam's successes in part to presiding over the GOP-dominated Legislature in a non-swing state.

Yeah seems ready for primetime.


Our previous governor, Bredesen, would have put forward a health care bill that made Obamacare seem liberal, because that's what he did at the state level. Haslam has since mostly dismantled it.
 
2013-02-21 10:43:40 AM  

GAT_00: spongeboob: FTFA The profile also attributes Haslam's successes in part to presiding over the GOP-dominated Legislature in a non-swing state.

Yeah seems ready for primetime.

Our previous governor, Bredesen, would have put forward a health care bill that made Obamacare seem liberal, because that's what he did at the state level. Haslam has since mostly dismantled it.


Seem conservative. I keep doing that.
 
2013-02-21 10:44:20 AM  
Haslam is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you vote for him.
 
2013-02-21 10:45:12 AM  

Mikey1969: LockeOak: I don't get the Huntsman love. He's the same Republican policy positions in a slightly less derpy candy shell. He's anti-gay marriage and proposed eliminating the capital gains tax and and lowering the corporate tax rate, for Christ's sake.

Because he's sane, he's willing to work across the aisle and he doesn't alienate the Left as a part of his core policy. People on both sides in Utah were sad to see him go, for exactly these reasons. The Left doesn't want a Rightie candidate that is a Lefty in disguise, they just want someone who doesn't get on the news and vilify the Left on an hourly basis. Not only that, but if anoyone on the Right seems able to modify their views on things like Gay marriage, it's Huntsman.


*Yawn*  Being sane doesn't get you any brownie points with me.  I want to see good statesmen with forward-looking policy ideas.  Not being a total poo-flinging retard in comparison to the current GOP is no accomplishment.
 
2013-02-21 10:45:32 AM  
Huntsman is no longer a member of the GOP, he's an independent, so it really wouldn't make sense to have him on this list
 
2013-02-21 10:47:13 AM  
Can I assume, then, he hasn't yet opened his mouth on the national stage?
 
2013-02-21 10:51:30 AM  

Lord_Baull: Can I assume, then, he hasn't yet opened his mouth on the national stage?


Not that I'm aware of.
 
2013-02-21 10:57:19 AM  

The Name: *Yawn*  Being sane doesn't get you any brownie points with me.  I want to see good statesmen with forward-looking policy ideas.  Not being a total poo-flinging retard in comparison to the current GOP is no accomplishment.


And he was exactly that as governor of Utah.
 
2013-02-21 11:00:22 AM  
Huntsman is far from a rising star, and given his ties to industry, and some unrealistic ideas on taxation, he is only slightly more palatable than the rest of the field in that he doesn't chew on scenery while speaking. He appears reasonable only in comparison. Johnson was a far better bet, but again, his ideas on taxation, he was a non-starter for me--though, a damn sight better than the rest of the field.

The problem is, the party isn't looking for leadership. The party is looking for rubber stamps for their investors. Let's not get that screwed up--not donors, but investors. This is the thinking of the folks who donate to the party at this point. They aren't looking for political action, but an economic return. Even the investment into "social" issues, come down to economic returns. Justice, education, even our foreign policy are calculated as economic returns. While they are willing to back folks with ideological views, they are tools for getting other policies passed. Not for their good, or the good of the nation, but because those folks will back policies that will see a return on investments. A very narrow band of investments. All the folderol about choice, prayer, even marriage equality, those are merely hooks to get "values voters" to sign on board with other policies, with a rubber stamp.

GW was not the first of these rubber stamps. He was merely Quayle 2.0--and folks were bitter about Clinton getting the nod after Bush because they realized that they'd lost a golden opportunity to have that rubber stamp President. The bitterness about the loss of McCain was not based on the blackness of the guy he lost to, but in the loss of investments, and despite their bitterness, they are still happy on several returns that Obama has made for them. Health care, the stock market, and a few other things have not made a lot of difference, in that they want MOAR return, and Romney was a certain thing for getting an agenda in that would have seen a select few profit enormously, as opposed to just better than usual. There are fears of a market that is too competitive to allow for simple rampant driving up of stock prices, and the lack of an Executive that is anathema to labor, that gives them pause, and these are folks who don't like being thwarted. And they'll use the Useful Idiot Brigade to get what they want, but let's not mistake that for ideological reasons. Pay lip service to the "values voters" certainly, but in no way is that to be mistaken for belief. They are just certain that their control of things will insulate them from the impact of the crumbs that they throw them.

The GOP is ill, and they are ill on the amount of cash that they've accepted over the years, and are unable to do much of anything without their investors' nod. That is the real issue. Not the petty ideologues and their agendas--those are just symptoms of the rot. We need leadership at this point, and sadly, the GOP is not going to provide anything looking like that. It saddens me, but the party is driving out anything looking like real leadership, and stigmatizing anything that looks like compromise or actual governance. Looking for rubber stamps and the right demographic, that is the only thing that their investors want, because that is the only thing that the folks who control their purse strings understand. Marketability, messaging, and malleability to the will of the investors. Leadership?  It's as passe, and dangerous even, because it would mean being not under direct control.
 
2013-02-21 11:04:38 AM  
Things like this make it even tougher on the few remaining rational Republicans. If I'm a governor focused on trying to do a good job, the last thing I need is the distraction of being the next new star. This effort says less about the personalities or effectiveness of these governors and much more about how desperate the GOP is to find a new pitchman rather than take a fundamental look at how far out of whack they are with the electorate.
 
2013-02-21 11:20:08 AM  
#1) I have heard of him (Article you fail)
#2) Everyone has heard of Jon Huntsman: He is neither a star, nor does anyone but democrats like him (only to piss off republicans). He is a giant tool and a moron.

His entire 2012 campaign was a giant waste of time and money, and either he knew it was a waste OR he is a moron. There is no other way to look at it
 
2013-02-21 12:38:08 PM  

Wendy's Chili: Apparently believing in gravity is enough "reaching across the aisle" to get bi-partisan panties wet.


that's just evidence of how far right the gop has gone. just acknowledging something that's common sense, widely accepted, and scientific is considered "reach across the aisle".
 
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