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(Huffington Post)   Investigation discovers Dreamliner's problem. Hint: It sounds like "going" but starts with a "B"   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 11
    More: Obvious, Dreamliner, Boeing, legacy carrier, Hawaiian Airlines, United Continental Holdings, Alaska Airlines, AMR, J. D. Power  
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2013-02-21 08:53:11 AM  
Boing?
 
2013-02-21 09:02:46 AM  
During the development of the 777  I worked for a subcontractor and every nut, bolt and valve had to be modeled in a 3D CAD system.  Boeing did this to save costs as all previous airliners had a 1:1 mock-up made to ensure fit.  I think the cost of development is so high and so infrequent - this was 20 years ago I worked on the 777 -  that they are looking for ways of cutting and sharing costs.  Mistakes will be made but I'm not sure there is a better way
 
2013-02-21 09:04:07 AM  
I read that as "gong" and thought we might need to drug test airplanes. Getting high on spiked fuel. Passing out with a lit(hium) battery burning.
 
2013-02-21 09:06:54 AM  
The main source of the problem is spelled "McDonnell Douglas".
 
2013-02-21 09:26:24 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: The main source of the problem is spelled "McDonnell Douglas".


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2013-02-21 09:28:25 AM  
So, is the entire fleet grounded because the subcontractor for the battery screwed up?  Was the error from final assembly and its Boeing shooting itself in the foot?  Is this error unique to the plane and not reflective of the entire fleet making the true problem thats causing general battery faults yet to be found?

This article is exceedingly uninformative.
 
2013-02-21 09:39:40 AM  
If it's wiring it's Boeing.

Or Something.

So is this the fault of the unions, the management, the fat cat CEOs, the foreigners, Obama or what?

Maybe Joe the electrician plugged his connector in backwards.
 
2013-02-21 09:54:56 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: The main source of the problem is spelled "McDonnell Douglas".


More likely the problem was Alan Mulally, the 'Father of the Dreamliner.'  This is the reason he left Boeing for Ford.
 
2013-02-21 11:13:07 AM  

StrikitRich: Marcus Aurelius: The main source of the problem is spelled "McDonnell Douglas".

More likely the problem was Alan Mulally, the 'Father of the Dreamliner.'  This is the reason he left Boeing for Ford.


Remind me to stay away from Ford hybrids then.
 
2013-02-21 12:11:45 PM  

Wicked Chinchilla: So, is the entire fleet grounded because the subcontractor for the battery screwed up?  Was the error from final assembly and its Boeing shooting itself in the foot?  Is this error unique to the plane and not reflective of the entire fleet making the true problem thats causing general battery faults yet to be found?

This article is exceedingly uninformative.


Related article claims the batteries on that plane were changed 10 times by the airline. I think that may have had something to do with it, too.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/30/boeing-787-batteries_n_2580 69 3.html
 
2013-02-21 04:01:29 PM  

nodubs: Wicked Chinchilla: So, is the entire fleet grounded because the subcontractor for the battery screwed up?  Was the error from final assembly and its Boeing shooting itself in the foot?  Is this error unique to the plane and not reflective of the entire fleet making the true problem thats causing general battery faults yet to be found?

This article is exceedingly uninformative.

Related article claims the batteries on that plane were changed 10 times by the airline. I think that may have had something to do with it, too.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/30/boeing-787-batteries_n_2580 69 3.html



not sure how you got that from the article...

"ANA said it had replaced batteries on its 787 aircraft some 10 times because they didn't charge properly or connections with electrical systems failed, and informed Boeing about the swaps"

"Boeing said batteries on the 787s were returned because of safety mechanisms that make sure the batteries can't be used if they have been deeply-discharged or improperly disconnected.Some batteries have also been returned because they exceeded their shelf life, the company said."

that's 10 battery swaps across their fleet (17 jets over X months) and not 10 swaps for that one specific aircraft. so the wiring problem sounds like someone at ANA who was responsible for hooking up the replacement batteries at some point. not to say that the batteries are completely absolved from this, but still better than a systematic battery failure that could affect all 787s
 
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