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(Opposing Views)   Woman raises money to get man's dog back, man angry she offered to pay his bills with the leftover donations instead of giving him cash   (opposingviews.com) divider line 126
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2013-02-20 11:51:46 PM  
That's a bummer. I'm glad the dog was saved though.

There are a lot of dysfunctional people in this world. The guy's reaction doesn't change the fact that this woman did a really good thing.
 
2013-02-20 11:55:26 PM  
This guy is a farking prick.

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2013-02-21 12:03:35 AM  
She said on her Facebook page that she wanted him to realize the money was a blessing and that it should be used wisely.

FFS you overbearing idiot.  If the guy's homeless there's a pretty high chance he's got something wrong with him and a couple of thousand dollars will not put your life completely back on track, not when mental illness is a high possibility.  You don't get to be all high and mighty because you did a good thing.  Give the poor guy his money and move on.
 
2013-02-21 12:07:10 AM  
Sanchez wanted to act as an "accountant" for him until the money ran out, as she did not want the money going to drugs. She said she has had her life and the lives of her children devastated by drug loss, and did not want to encourage any addiction.



Wow, what a sanctimonious coont.
 
2013-02-21 12:08:06 AM  
Btw, what the fark is "drug loss"???
 
2013-02-21 12:11:12 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Btw, what the fark is "drug loss"???


I had a pet possum that ate an eighth of weed one time

/that was a drug loss
//pretty stoned possum, too
 
2013-02-21 12:13:49 AM  

GAT_00: Give the poor guy his money and move on.


Normally I'd agree with you, but the money was raised specifically to save the dog's life and people donated it with that expectation. Might have made sense to earmark all the money for his continued care- maybe set it up with a vet's office to take care of food and future check ups for the dog.

Either way, it's definitely in poor form to treat a stranger badly when they've gone above and beyond to help you.

That being said, the guy's an addict and probably has a fair few related issues and I agree that it was poor form to share those issues with the press.
 
2013-02-21 12:48:25 AM  
One coont + one ingrate = news.

I like her final solution:  let donors decide whether they want refunds or to donate the excess to a shelter.  That should be a stipulation in every such fundraising effort.
 
2013-02-21 02:55:22 AM  
No good deed goes unpunished.
 
2013-02-21 03:09:57 AM  
Save the dog, donate the rest to the humane society. Issue solved.
 
2013-02-21 03:10:05 AM  
So dumbass tag is for the lady trying to help random stranger/prick right?
 
2013-02-21 03:10:36 AM  

Smgth: No good deed goes unpunished.


Only when good deeds inspire pride, which leadeth to a fall.  Had this woman not decided she was better than the man she helped, she would not have been chastised.

"Do good by stealth, and blush to find it fame."  Samuel Coleridge.
 
2013-02-21 03:13:23 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: I like her final solution:


You know who else liked final solutions
 
2013-02-21 03:14:34 AM  
Sounds like she has a bit of a goddess complex and is trying to play social worker. She should have stopped taking donations at the $400 mark, retrieved the dog and left it at that.
 
2013-02-21 03:16:28 AM  
Gotta feel bad for that dog. But the poor thing is just so loyal to its owner. It doesn't know any better.

Maybe better to have gotten that needle and gone to sleep than to go home with this guy and his wife.
 
2013-02-21 03:25:29 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Gotta feel bad for that dog. But the poor thing is just so loyal to its owner. It doesn't know any better.

Maybe better to have gotten that needle and gone to sleep than to go home with this guy and his wife.


I don't believe that at all. I think any dog that's loved is a lucky dog. At least this guy loves his dog.

He's an addict with a ton of issues clearly, but that doesn't mean he's cruel to his dog.
 
2013-02-21 03:28:35 AM  
I think the most outrageous part of this story is that the pound would put the dog to sleep over a farking $400 bill, especially since they know it's not a stray and has an owner. A dog is not a car and the pound shouldn't operate like a farking evil tow truck company.
 
2013-02-21 03:29:51 AM  
Sure is a lot of derp in this thread. The woman isn't being sanctimonious, she raised money for donations and offered to help. She can use the money any way she wishes, regardless of what the homeless guy wants it for.
 
2013-02-21 03:30:21 AM  

SnarfVader: I think the most outrageous part of this story is that the pound would put the dog to sleep over a farking $400 bill, especially since they know it's not a stray and has an owner. A dog is not a car and the pound shouldn't operate like a farking evil tow truck company.


Agreed. That's definitely the most outrageous part of the whole thing.
 
2013-02-21 03:33:31 AM  
I would donate to see this jerk and his wife beaten with the money left converted to quarters and put into a sock.
 
2013-02-21 03:33:41 AM  
donators, really?
 
2013-02-21 03:34:20 AM  
Man, I knew things were going bad for Dave Thomas. After he lost that SCTV job, I thought for sure he's keep the hamburger franchise. He learned so much from the Colonel, and adopted that cute redheaded Wendy. I love his Frosty's, but thought he was hilarious as the lovable Doug McKenzie. Now that he's homeless and in jail, I just want to say, "Take off you hoser!"
 
2013-02-21 03:34:40 AM  

Abacus9: Sure is a lot of derp in this thread. The woman isn't being sanctimonious, she raised money for donations and offered to help. She can use the money any way she wishes, regardless of what the homeless guy wants it for.


This. Dudes being an ungrateful douchebag.
 
2013-02-21 03:35:31 AM  

Abacus9: Sure is a lot of derp in this thread. The woman isn't being sanctimonious, she raised money for donations and offered to help. She can use the money any way she wishes, regardless of what the homeless guy wants it for.


No kidding.... sounds like people in this thread definitely had other plans for the money than it's intended purpose.  Beggers can't be choosers and all that jazz, but I guess now a days we cater to the whim of anyone no matter what.  That's freedom right?
 
2013-02-21 03:36:12 AM  
"When Dave Thomas was jailed for a few days from a traffic violation, his dog Buzz Lightyear was taken to the pound. Thomas went to the shelter to get Buzz back after he was released from jail, but found that he must pay $400 in fees.

He only had $6 to his name on that day, and realized it was probably the last time he would see his beloved dog as he was set to be put to sleep this week. "

There is something very wrong with your country.
 
2013-02-21 03:40:07 AM  

proteus_b: donators, really?


When they're not donating they're conversating.
 
2013-02-21 03:46:23 AM  
You can't help a junkie, you can only let them die. Give him the hot shot.
 
2013-02-21 03:53:33 AM  

Rufus Lee King: SnarfVader: I think the most outrageous part of this story is that the pound would put the dog to sleep over a farking $400 bill, especially since they know it's not a stray and has an owner. A dog is not a car and the pound shouldn't operate like a farking evil tow truck company.

That's the first thing that struck me, as well. "Give us $400 or we'll kill your dog." Really, what the hell?


It's a city pound, bound by city laws.  Pay the fees (actually, he only had to come up with half) or the dog goes up for adoption.  After three days, it goes on death row.

I wonder how long the city holds unclaimed impounded cars.
 
Skr
2013-02-21 03:54:01 AM  

Rufus Lee King: SnarfVader: I think the most outrageous part of this story is that the pound would put the dog to sleep over a farking $400 bill, especially since they know it's not a stray and has an owner. A dog is not a car and the pound shouldn't operate like a farking evil tow truck company.

That's the first thing that struck me, as well. "Give us $400 or we'll kill your dog." Really, what the hell?


Additionally sad is that they most likely would have tried to take him to collections for that $400 ransom money even after killing the canine.
 
2013-02-21 03:56:09 AM  

gaspode: "When Dave Thomas was jailed for a few days from a traffic violation, his dog Buzz Lightyear was taken to the pound. Thomas went to the shelter to get Buzz back after he was released from jail, but found that he must pay $400 in fees.

He only had $6 to his name on that day, and realized it was probably the last time he would see his beloved dog as he was set to be put to sleep this week. "

There is something very wrong with your country.


Yeah, too many homeless bums with dogs they can't afford.

/nice country you got there, Kiwi!
 
2013-02-21 03:57:38 AM  

Skr: Rufus Lee King: SnarfVader: I think the most outrageous part of this story is that the pound would put the dog to sleep over a farking $400 bill, especially since they know it's not a stray and has an owner. A dog is not a car and the pound shouldn't operate like a farking evil tow truck company.

That's the first thing that struck me, as well. "Give us $400 or we'll kill your dog." Really, what the hell?

Additionally sad is that they most likely would have tried to take him to collections for that $400 ransom money even after killing the canine.


Is your life so lacking in sadness that you have to imagine more?
 
2013-02-21 03:58:58 AM  
I brought food to a begger once, and she basically said "what the fark is this? I need cash." I now assume everyone begging is a crackhead. This guy sounds like one of those ingrates. Give the needy food, water, and services; not cash.
 
2013-02-21 04:00:30 AM  

gaspode: "When Dave Thomas was jailed for a few days from a traffic violation, his dog Buzz Lightyear was taken to the pound. Thomas went to the shelter to get Buzz back after he was released from jail, but found that he must pay $400 in fees.

He only had $6 to his name on that day, and realized it was probably the last time he would see his beloved dog as he was set to be put to sleep this week. "

There is something very wrong with your country.


I know, who names their dog Buzz Lightyear? Should of named him Cujo.
 
2013-02-21 04:05:47 AM  
Christ, what an asshole.
 
2013-02-21 04:06:34 AM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: You can't help a junkie, you can only let them die. Give him the hot shot.


Never trust a junkie.

\just one hit
 
2013-02-21 04:07:54 AM  
BarkingUnicorn:

Yeah, too many homeless bums with dogs they can't afford.

The dog didnt cost 400 dollars, the 'we imprisoned you over some triviality, then confiscated your stuff and now you have to pay what to you is a fortune to get it back or watch us murder the dog haha oh by the way you are poorz so double haha die in a gutter' system did. For all I or you know he had no trouble keeping his dog fed.
 
2013-02-21 04:09:38 AM  

WildManBand: I brought food to a begger once, and she basically said "what the fark is this? I need cash." I now assume everyone begging is a crackhead. This guy sounds like one of those ingrates. Give the needy food, water, and services; not cash.


It's always best to just donate straight to a homeless shelter. Don't ever give them money. I'm sure your heart was in the right place by giving out food, but as you can see it's not always what they want.
 
2013-02-21 04:12:53 AM  

WildManBand: I brought food to a begger once, and she basically said "what the fark is this? I need cash." I now assume everyone begging is a crackhead. This guy sounds like one of those ingrates. Give the needy food, water, and services; not cash.


I don't concern myself with what other people need; that's their lookout.  I give money to beggars because it's easier than fetching them food, and giving makes me feel good.

Don't look at my post like that.  You brought the woman food because it made you feel good.
 
2013-02-21 04:16:21 AM  
Sanctimonious? Overbearing? Sure. But she was the one who raised the money and accomplished the original mission.

The rest is up to her, sounds pretty reasonable, and the guy doesn't understand humility and appreciation, which is why he is where he is in life.
 
2013-02-21 04:18:32 AM  

gaspode: BarkingUnicorn:

Yeah, too many homeless bums with dogs they can't afford.

The dog didnt cost 400 dollars, the 'we imprisoned you over some triviality, then confiscated your stuff and now you have to pay what to you is a fortune to get it back or watch us murder the dog haha oh by the way you are poorz so double haha die in a gutter' system did. For all I or you know he had no trouble keeping his dog fed.


Food is not all it takes to afford a dog.
 
2013-02-21 04:21:56 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Rufus Lee King: SnarfVader: I think the most outrageous part of this story is that the pound would put the dog to sleep over a farking $400 bill, especially since they know it's not a stray and has an owner. A dog is not a car and the pound shouldn't operate like a farking evil tow truck company.

That's the first thing that struck me, as well. "Give us $400 or we'll kill your dog." Really, what the hell?

It's a city pound, bound by city laws.  Pay the fees (actually, he only had to come up with half) or the dog goes up for adoption.  After three days, it goes on death row.

I wonder how long the city holds unclaimed impounded cars.


You vote republican eh?
 
2013-02-21 04:23:09 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Sanchez wanted to act as an "accountant" for him until the money ran out, as she did not want the money going to drugs. She said she has had her life and the lives of her children devastated by drug loss, and did not want to encourage any addiction.



Wow, what a sanctimonious coont.


This. I kinda feel like he got mad because she was acting like a busybody biatch and making rude assumptions. I do see where she is coming from tho.
 
2013-02-21 04:24:02 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Skr: Rufus Lee King: SnarfVader: I think the most outrageous part of this story is that the pound would put the dog to sleep over a farking $400 bill, especially since they know it's not a stray and has an owner. A dog is not a car and the pound shouldn't operate like a farking evil tow truck company.

That's the first thing that struck me, as well. "Give us $400 or we'll kill your dog." Really, what the hell?

Additionally sad is that they most likely would have tried to take him to collections for that $400 ransom money even after killing the canine.

Is your life so lacking in sadness that you have to imagine more?


Are you a clinically diagnosed sociopath? I'm just asking questions here.
 
2013-02-21 04:25:03 AM  

Dadoody: Sanctimonious? Overbearing? Sure. But she was the one who raised the money and accomplished the original mission.

The rest is up to her, sounds pretty reasonable, and the guy doesn't understand humility and appreciation, which is why he is where he is in life.


As long we're making things up, let's blame the woman in his life.

"Honey, this wonderful lady raised $2000 to help get Buzz off death row! Aint she wonderful?"

"It only cost $400.  Where's the rest?"

"She's going to help me manage it."

"What are you, a man or a little boy?  You get on that phone get that money!"

Maybe her name is Eve.
 
2013-02-21 04:26:16 AM  

inclemency: BarkingUnicorn: Rufus Lee King: SnarfVader: I think the most outrageous part of this story is that the pound would put the dog to sleep over a farking $400 bill, especially since they know it's not a stray and has an owner. A dog is not a car and the pound shouldn't operate like a farking evil tow truck company.

That's the first thing that struck me, as well. "Give us $400 or we'll kill your dog." Really, what the hell?

It's a city pound, bound by city laws.  Pay the fees (actually, he only had to come up with half) or the dog goes up for adoption.  After three days, it goes on death row.

I wonder how long the city holds unclaimed impounded cars.

You vote republican eh?


:-) Hardly.  But I do understand how employees keep their jobs.
 
2013-02-21 04:29:18 AM  

inclemency: BarkingUnicorn: Skr: Rufus Lee King: SnarfVader: I think the most outrageous part of this story is that the pound would put the dog to sleep over a farking $400 bill, especially since they know it's not a stray and has an owner. A dog is not a car and the pound shouldn't operate like a farking evil tow truck company.

That's the first thing that struck me, as well. "Give us $400 or we'll kill your dog." Really, what the hell?

Additionally sad is that they most likely would have tried to take him to collections for that $400 ransom money even after killing the canine.

Is your life so lacking in sadness that you have to imagine more?

Are you a clinically diagnosed sociopath? I'm just asking questions here.


No; I learned how to beat the test.
 
2013-02-21 04:36:41 AM  
Dave Thomas just lowered the bar for being an ungrateful asshole. Glad the doggie was saved, but fark this guy times 1000.

http://laist.com/2013/02/20/man_reunited_with_dog_turns_on_helper.ph p

/I'm not turning my back on giving to charity and helping people, but seriously...fark this guy!.
 
2013-02-21 04:53:32 AM  

SnarfVader: I think the most outrageous part of this story is that the pound would put the dog to sleep over a farking $400 bill, especially since they know it's not a stray and has an owner. A dog is not a car and the pound shouldn't operate like a farking evil tow truck company.


Abacus9: Sure is a lot of derp in this thread. The woman isn't being sanctimonious, she raised money for donations and offered to help. She can use the money any way she wishes, regardless of what the homeless guy wants it for.

 
2013-02-21 04:58:04 AM  
Donator is perfectly cromulent.
 
2013-02-21 04:58:33 AM  
He's not being an ingrate, he's simply pointing out money raised for his benefit did not go to him. Fair's fair. That woman probably wants to pay a few bills herself, knowing this world of ours. Just write it off as a "handling fee."
 
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