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2013-02-21 01:14:06 AM
At first I was like:


i.imgur.com

But then...

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-21 01:17:04 AM
i dont think the article is fake, i saw an episode of 20/20 once and there was this guy who had like 15 sperm donor kids in the same town and two of them got married but didnt know
 
2013-02-21 01:17:19 AM

GAT_00: This did not farking happen.  But thanks for another dose of manufactured tabloid bullshiat.


Its a beautiful thing ain't it baby?
Relax, take it easy
This won't hurt a bit
 
2013-02-21 01:18:19 AM

ng2810: Why are there so many people calling this fake? It may be extremely bizarre and disturbing, yes, but it could happen!

I just discovered I have a brother who is around my age. Dad farked a hooker when he came to the US, and she became pregnant. Mom and Dad nearly broke up because of it, but they instead paid her to keep her trap shut and tried to keep him a secret. Once I became an adult and had access to our family financial records, I found out.

He is a sailor in the US Navy and frequents the same areas as me when in San Diego. My dad is a Navy veteran and I am at the Naval base all the time. We could have easily met up sometime before I found out he was my brother.

I also know of people who found long-lost siblings by meeting them at parties. It really isn't unusual for siblings raised apart and who have no knowledge of each other to become attracted to one another.


Wow... okay, I wasn't sure if I was ever going to tell anyone about this, but it's late and I'm sleep deprived so i guess I'll just write it now and regret it in the morning :(

First of all, - just for some background: My mom died right when I was born, (she was actually really, really hot- but this isn't about her. I guess that's farked-up up to say, but whatever.) I actually grew up with my dad's family, because my dad has all sorts of emotional issues and he bailed before I was born. So you can see, my childhood was really kind of messed up.

Anyways, growing up I feel like there was always a lot of distance between me and my sister. When I was about 17 or 18 I first noticed that my sister was a hottie.

I don't want to go into to many details about it, but basically what happened is that I accidentally found a video that she made of herself. I knew she didn't make it for me- but I thought she was so farking beautiful that I watched it twice. I probably would have watched it a hell of a lot more, except that like right around the time I found the video, all this crazy shiat went down and I had to leave home. (My dad's family who I was staying with got in bad trouble with the law. I never talk about it).

Sooo... I was totally lusting after my sister at that point. She was also having bad trouble with the law. She was actually in custody when I left home.

My friend and I went to go pick her up. When I saw her that day, after seeing the video, I have to be honest, I just wanted to fark her brains out. Looking back on it now, it's pretty messed up- but I think she had feelings for me too. She actually kissed me right after we came to get her... and it wasn't a sisterly kiss, you know? I mean, it wasn't like ridiculously sexual or anything, but it definitely wasn't sisterly.

After we left, we all went to crash with my Sister's friends. On the trip there, my friend sort of implied that he wanted to get with my Sister, and I got a little jealous. He's a good looking guy- and even though she was my sister- I just felt like he was competition. Not much else happened between us for a while except some maybe-sexy hugging.

Pretty much everyone in my life at that point was wanted by the government, so we all moved around a lot. I'm not saying that I'm proud of it or anything, but it was kind of an awesome time.

My friend and my sister never hooked up I don't think- but I thought there was some serious sexual tension going on between them. It was around that time that I got really badly hurt in an accident. It was farked up. I almost died. But when I was in recovery my sister came to see me, and out of the clear blue sky she started gives me this awesome, slow, passionate kiss on the lips.

Sadly (although, I guess for the best) nothing ever came of it. We spent some time apart... and I started to get really religious, so I tried not to think of her that way. It was actually going well for a long time- like I was totally over her. But I have to say, like a year or so after all that stuff went down, we were out sailing (not like a date or anything romantic like that), and she was wearing like the hottest bikini I've ever farking seen and it brought back all the old feelings. Sigh.

A little while later she actually wound up with my friend from before (the sexual tension guy). I can't say I was surprised.

But even after she was shacking up with my friend, there was one time we were at a party... my friend was inside, and my sister and I were outside alone. It was a really intimate moment. I think something might have happened, except that I killed the mood when I told her that Darth Vader was our father and that I had to go face him.
 
2013-02-21 01:19:56 AM

ng2810: Why are there so many people calling this fake? It may be extremely bizarre and disturbing, yes, but it could happen!

I just discovered I have a brother who is around my age. Dad farked a hooker when he came to the US, and she became pregnant. Mom and Dad nearly broke up because of it, but they instead paid her to keep her trap shut and tried to keep him a secret. Once I became an adult and had access to our family financial records, I found out.

He is a sailor in the US Navy and frequents the same areas as me when in San Diego. My dad is a Navy veteran and I am at the Naval base all the time. We could have easily met up sometime before I found out he was my brother.

I also know of people who found long-lost siblings by meeting them at parties. It really isn't unusual for siblings raised apart and who have no knowledge of each other to become attracted to one another.


This is my biggest fear as a spermbank baby. I meet a guy and find out we're brother and sister. I know the chances are slim but life is stranger than fiction.
 
2013-02-21 01:22:24 AM
I was more interested in the "Auntie Moniker" question.

Growing up, my brother and I had an "aunt" and "uncle" who were friends of my parents before we were even born. To this day we still call them Aunt and Uncle - out of endearment, familiarity, and respect - even though we've long-since learned we have no blood relation whatsoever. There have and there will always be people who are not related to you but will happily give you everything in the world, and there will also be family who do nothing but leech, demean, and suck the life out of you. Sometimes, people place too much stock in bloodlines.

Get over it, lady.
 
2013-02-21 01:23:28 AM
They could have died never knowing they were related.  Good thing they found out so we can all call them immoral.  Whew! That was close.
 
2013-02-21 01:24:34 AM
My brother was an only child.
 
2013-02-21 01:25:38 AM

GreatGlavinsGhost: Best part of the "article" was the video of her appearance on Colbert.


They must rotate her videos because I got an entirely different one.  Would love to see her on Colbert's show!

I read Prudie to see what concerns rich, white, East Coast people have.
 
2013-02-21 01:26:57 AM
your my sister oh yea  your my sister your my sister

i4.ytimg.com
 
2013-02-21 01:27:29 AM

gittlebass: i dont think the article is fake, i saw an episode of 20/20 once and there was this guy who had like 15 sperm donor kids in the same town and two of them got married but didnt know


Add that story to the fertility doc that fathered over 75 (I think) kids with his own sperm and the guy that discovered he has over 80 kids out there due to his donations. I saw a documentary about the second guy, can't recall the title though. It's not unpossible.

Add in a smallish geographical area in which the guy donates and it's not all that unbelievable. Fertility clinics have started to change rules and guidelines in recent years partly because of these situations.
 
2013-02-21 01:28:21 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: This is a seminal question about the nature of assisted reproduction

Uh-huh.


I LOL'd there too.
 
2013-02-21 01:29:26 AM
Wow, that was shockingly bad advice.  Telling him his children don't have a right to know that their parents are brother and sister?
 
2013-02-21 01:29:27 AM

Oznog: ng2810: Why are there so many people calling this fake? It may be extremely bizarre and disturbing, yes, but it could happen!

I just discovered I have a brother who is around my age. Dad farked a hooker when he came to the US, and she became pregnant. Mom and Dad nearly broke up because of it, but they instead paid her to keep her trap shut and tried to keep him a secret. Once I became an adult and had access to our family financial records, I found out.

He is a sailor in the US Navy and frequents the same areas as me when in San Diego. My dad is a Navy veteran and I am at the Naval base all the time. We could have easily met up sometime before I found out he was my brother.

I also know of people who found long-lost siblings by meeting them at parties. It really isn't unusual for siblings raised apart and who have no knowledge of each other to become attracted to one another.

Wow... okay, I wasn't sure if I was ever going to tell anyone about this, but it's late and I'm sleep deprived so i guess I'll just write it now and regret it in the morning :(

First of all, - just for some background: My mom died right when I was born, (she was actually really, really hot- but this isn't about her. I guess that's farked-up up to say, but whatever.) I actually grew up with my dad's family, because my dad has all sorts of emotional issues and he bailed before I was born. So you can see, my childhood was really kind of messed up.

Anyways, growing up I feel like there was always a lot of distance between me and my sister. When I was about 17 or 18 I first noticed that my sister was a hottie.

I don't want to go into to many details about it, but basically what happened is that I accidentally found a video that she made of herself. I knew she didn't make it for me- but I thought she was so farking beautiful that I watched it twice. I probably would have watched it a hell of a lot more, except that like right around the time I found the video, all this crazy shiat went down an ...



3.bp.blogspot.com

 
2013-02-21 01:30:03 AM

postnobills: My point is there are plenty of people out there with trees like that who aren't even royalty.


I'd say chances are every genetic line has had it happen several times, at least.

Would only become a serious problem if you do it for many consecutive generations, and even then it would be worked out after a few generations of breeding outside of your family. They breed horses within the same families all the time. The logic is supposedly that it amplifies any existing traits within family genetics, but it's kind of a crap shoot on whether what gets amplified are good traits or bad. If that applies the same to humans it wouldn't always mean bad things happen.
 
2013-02-21 01:33:59 AM
Cancel the series?
screencrave.com
 
2013-02-21 01:35:14 AM

GloomCookie613: gittlebass: i dont think the article is fake, i saw an episode of 20/20 once and there was this guy who had like 15 sperm donor kids in the same town and two of them got married but didnt know

Add that story to the fertility doc that fathered over 75 (I think) kids with his own sperm and the guy that discovered he has over 80 kids out there due to his donations. I saw a documentary about the second guy, can't recall the title though. It's not unpossible.

Add in a smallish geographical area in which the guy donates and it's not all that unbelievable. Fertility clinics have started to change rules and guidelines in recent years partly because of these situations.


Just found it. Guy's name is Ben Seisler. A quick google should turn up articles. The documentary was part of a Style Channel docu-series.
 
2013-02-21 01:37:34 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Oznog: ng2810: Why are there so many people calling this fake? It may be extremely bizarre and disturbing, yes, but it could happen!

I just discovered I have a brother who is around my age. Dad farked a hooker when he came to the US, and she became pregnant. Mom and Dad nearly broke up because of it, but they instead paid her to keep her trap shut and tried to keep him a secret. Once I became an adult and had access to our family financial records, I found out.

He is a sailor in the US Navy and frequents the same areas as me when in San Diego. My dad is a Navy veteran and I am at the Naval base all the time. We could have easily met up sometime before I found out he was my brother.

I also know of people who found long-lost siblings by meeting them at parties. It really isn't unusual for siblings raised apart and who have no knowledge of each other to become attracted to one another.

Wow... okay, I wasn't sure if I was ever going to tell anyone about this, but it's late and I'm sleep deprived so i guess I'll just write it now and regret it in the morning :(

First of all, - just for some background: My mom died right when I was born, (she was actually really, really hot- but this isn't about her. I guess that's farked-up up to say, but whatever.) I actually grew up with my dad's family, because my dad has all sorts of emotional issues and he bailed before I was born. So you can see, my childhood was really kind of messed up.

Anyways, growing up I feel like there was always a lot of distance between me and my sister. When I was about 17 or 18 I first noticed that my sister was a hottie.

I don't want to go into to many details about it, but basically what happened is that I accidentally found a video that she made of herself. I knew she didn't make it for me- but I thought she was so farking beautiful that I watched it twice. I probably would have watched it a hell of a lot more, except that like right around the time I found the video, all this crazy shiat went ...


Seconded. Fished in right until the end.
 
2013-02-21 01:37:43 AM
I think this was one of the premise why the United Kingdom banned anonymous sperm donors.
 
2013-02-21 01:51:34 AM
Came for Joe Dirt, leaving with you're sister.
 
2013-02-21 01:54:47 AM

postnobills: Darth_Lukecash: postnobills: Meh.  My parents are related - not quite this closely but close enough to have the same last name.  The extended family considered each of them unmarriageable so why not kill two birds with one stone and marry them off to each other?  The only condition was they weren't supposed to have kids.

Oops.

Roosevelt?

Nope.

If you do the research, this kind of thing is actually far more common than most of us would like to believe.  In the west it simply isn't talked about, but in some cultures second or even first cousins are considered the best candidates for marriage.  In my case, so far I've been pretty healthy but the genetic counselor did suggest that I shouldn't try to have kids myself.


First cousins are actually fine to marry, the "increased genetic risk" amounts to 1.7% to 2%. As you mentioned, many other cultures first cousins marry quite frequently, in fact in some of them they account for 50% of all marriages. Just do the math - if it was actually genetically "bad" for first cousins to marry, the populations in these countries wouldn't be able to sustain themselves.

Unless your ma and pa are brother and sister you have nothing to worry about and it's highly unlikely that their genetic closeness outside of that appreciably increased your odds of any sort of genetic defects, if you have a genetic disorder like sickle cell anemia, then playing the odds it's pretty likely you were going to have it anyway.
 
2013-02-21 01:56:03 AM

Mattevil: Cancel the series?
[screencrave.com image 580x400]


fark you, that series was so much better than Girls. The comedy Emmy's are a goddamn joke.
/that said, OMG A MOVIE!!!
 
2013-02-21 01:57:29 AM

FNG: Good Lord.  Aren't we done with this "Dear Prudence" crap yet?  It's like wrestling meets Dear Penthouse.  Give it up, and please just stop.




No- exhibit a : Wont you come out to play
 
2013-02-21 01:59:48 AM
Time to play the lottery, sister-farker.
 
2013-02-21 02:04:23 AM

Oznog: ng2810: Why are there so many people calling this fake? It may be extremely bizarre and disturbing, yes, but it could happen!

I just discovered I have a brother who is around my age. Dad farked a hooker when he came to the US, and she became pregnant. Mom and Dad nearly broke up because of it, but they instead paid her to keep her trap shut and tried to keep him a secret. Once I became an adult and had access to our family financial records, I found out.

He is a sailor in the US Navy and frequents the same areas as me when in San Diego. My dad is a Navy veteran and I am at the Naval base all the time. We could have easily met up sometime before I found out he was my brother.

I also know of people who found long-lost siblings by meeting them at parties. It really isn't unusual for siblings raised apart and who have no knowledge of each other to become attracted to one another.

Wow... okay, I wasn't sure if I was ever going to tell anyone about this, but it's late and I'm sleep deprived so i guess I'll just write it now and regret it in the morning :(

First of all, - just for some background: My mom died right when I was born, (she was actually really, really hot- but this isn't about her. I guess that's farked-up up to say, but whatever.) I actually grew up with my dad's family, because my dad has all sorts of emotional issues and he bailed before I was born. So you can see, my childhood was really kind of messed up.

Anyways, growing up I feel like there was always a lot of distance between me and my sister. When I was about 17 or 18 I first noticed that my sister was a hottie.

I don't want to go into to many details about it, but basically what happened is that I accidentally found a video that she made of herself. I knew she didn't make it for me- but I thought she was so farking beautiful that I watched it twice. I probably would have watched it a hell of a lot more, except that like right around the time I found the video, all this crazy shiat went down an ...


That's art.

/Nothing more to add
 
2013-02-21 02:04:39 AM
 
2013-02-21 02:09:53 AM

alienated: No- exhibit a : Wont you come out to play


Good catch : )
 
2013-02-21 02:10:22 AM

GAT_00: This did not farking happen.  But thanks for another dose of manufactured tabloid bullshiat.


I'd say Prudie jumped the shark, except I couldn't remember a time I actually believed one of her headlining letters. (The rest are much more real and sad, though.)

It's like The Onion, consider it entertainment for the easily amused, naive, and prurient.
 
2013-02-21 02:17:04 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Oznog:


[highstakesbassin.com image 500x472]


YODA SPEAK DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!  GOOD NIGHT!
 
2013-02-21 02:18:20 AM

Oznog: I killed the mood when I told her that Darth Vader was our father and that I had to go face him.


www.theurbanshogun.com
 
2013-02-21 02:19:25 AM

IlGreven: They could have died never knowing they were related.  Good thing they found out so we can all call them immoral.  Whew! That was close.


Nobody would know, except medical researchers who keep noticing the rise in the number of autistic and otherwise mentally handicapped children, before the inbreeding gets bad enough to start producing physical deformities...

/biology isn't like religion, it doesn't go away no matter how much you want to stop believing in it
//clearly the solution is to kill all the doctors, because without them we could be forever ignorant
 
2013-02-21 02:22:15 AM

MadCat221: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Oznog:


[highstakesbassin.com image 500x472]

YODA SPEAK DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!  GOOD NIGHT!


Up the shut fark, you must.
 
2013-02-21 02:22:16 AM
Pull a Turin Turambar and fall on your sword?
 
2013-02-21 02:22:25 AM

postnobills: Darth_Lukecash: postnobills: Meh.  My parents are related - not quite this closely but close enough to have the same last name.  The extended family considered each of them unmarriageable so why not kill two birds with one stone and marry them off to each other?  The only condition was they weren't supposed to have kids.

Oops.

Roosevelt?

Nope.

If you do the research, this kind of thing is actually far more common than most of us would like to believe.  In the west it simply isn't talked about, but in some cultures second or even first cousins are considered the best candidates for marriage.  In my case, so far I've been pretty healthy but the genetic counselor did suggest that I shouldn't try to have kids myself.


Is that because you are an only child with no sister leaving no suitable candidate?
 
2013-02-21 02:23:18 AM

had98c: Pull a Turin Turambar and fall on your sword?


If anyone ever makes a Silmarillion miniseries, or plain old T.V. show, I think my boner will be visible from the Andromeda Galaxy.
 
2013-02-21 02:25:04 AM
Honey Wilder, Janey Robbins, and Tom Byron in scene 10 of 'Private Teacher'

NSFW and from 1983 so be ready to see some bush and terrible acting.
 
2013-02-21 02:33:42 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: MadCat221: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Oznog:


[highstakesbassin.com image 500x472]

YODA SPEAK DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!  GOOD NIGHT!

Up the shut fark, you must.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-21 02:36:56 AM
 
2013-02-21 02:37:45 AM

Oznog: I think something might have happened, except that I killed the mood when I told her that Darth Vader was our father and that I had to go face him.


A true thing of beauty you just did.
 
2013-02-21 02:39:21 AM

Omnivorous: Maximum Prudence trolling.

Let's figure the odds on this happening (1: 1,000,000)
And the odds on a pair of morans writing to Prudy (1: 1,000,000)

/Being kind with the statistical correlation


The thing about a million to one odds is that it happens nine times out of ten.
 
2013-02-21 02:53:36 AM
My advice?

Pluck out your eyes.
 
2013-02-21 02:55:02 AM
Isn't 10% of EastAsia descended from Ghengis Khan?

Awkward.

And for a time South Koreans could not marry someone of the same surname even though 20% of the nation was Kim.

We are all related.
 
2013-02-21 02:57:55 AM
Did they find this out when they noticed they had the same family crest tattooed on their thigh?
 
2013-02-21 02:58:07 AM

Oznog: ng2810: Why are there so many people calling this fake? It may be extremely bizarre and disturbing, yes, but it could happen!

I just discovered I have a brother who is around my age. Dad farked a hooker when he came to the US, and she became pregnant. Mom and Dad nearly broke up because of it, but they instead paid her to keep her trap shut and tried to keep him a secret. Once I became an adult and had access to our family financial records, I found out.

He is a sailor in the US Navy and frequents the same areas as me when in San Diego. My dad is a Navy veteran and I am at the Naval base all the time. We could have easily met up sometime before I found out he was my brother.

I also know of people who found long-lost siblings by meeting them at parties. It really isn't unusual for siblings raised apart and who have no knowledge of each other to become attracted to one another.

Wow... okay, I wasn't sure if I was ever going to tell anyone about this, but it's late and I'm sleep deprived so i guess I'll just write it now and regret it in the morning :(...


24.media.tumblr.com

Beautiful
 
2013-02-21 02:58:36 AM

Oznog: ng2810: Why are there so many people calling this fake? It may be extremely bizarre and disturbing, yes, but it could happen!

I just discovered I have a brother who is around my age. Dad farked a hooker when he came to the US, and she became pregnant. Mom and Dad nearly broke up because of it, but they instead paid her to keep her trap shut and tried to keep him a secret. Once I became an adult and had access to our family financial records, I found out.

He is a sailor in the US Navy and frequents the same areas as me when in San Diego. My dad is a Navy veteran and I am at the Naval base all the time. We could have easily met up sometime before I found out he was my brother.

I also know of people who found long-lost siblings by meeting them at parties. It really isn't unusual for siblings raised apart and who have no knowledge of each other to become attracted to one another.

Wow... okay, I wasn't sure if I was ever going to tell anyone about this, but it's late and I'm sleep deprived so i guess I'll just write it now and regret it in the morning :(

First of all, - just for some background: My mom died right when I was born, (she was actually really, really hot- but this isn't about her. I guess that's farked-up up to say, but whatever.) I actually grew up with my dad's family, because my dad has all sorts of emotional issues and he bailed before I was born. So you can see, my childhood was really kind of messed up.

Anyways, growing up I feel like there was always a lot of distance between me and my sister. When I was about 17 or 18 I first noticed that my sister was a hottie.

I don't want to go into to many details about it, but basically what happened is that I accidentally found a video that she made of herself. I knew she didn't make it for me- but I thought she was so farking beautiful that I watched it twice. I probably would have watched it a hell of a lot more, except that like right around the time I found the video, all this crazy shiat went down and I had to leave home. (My dad's family who I was staying with got in bad trouble with the law. I never talk about it).

Sooo... I was totally lusting after my sister at that point. She was also having bad trouble with the law. She was actually in custody when I left home.

My friend and I went to go pick her up. When I saw her that day, after seeing the video, I have to be honest, I just wanted to fark her brains out. Looking back on it now, it's pretty messed up- but I think she had feelings for me too. She actually kissed me right after we came to get her... and it wasn't a sisterly kiss, you know? I mean, it wasn't like ridiculously sexual or anything, but it definitely wasn't sisterly.

After we left, we all went to crash with my Sister's friends. On the trip there, my friend sort of implied that he wanted to get with my Sister, and I got a little jealous. He's a good looking guy- and even though she was my sister- I just felt like he was competition. Not much else happened between us for a while except some maybe-sexy hugging.

Pretty much everyone in my life at that point was wanted by the government, so we all moved around a lot. I'm not saying that I'm proud of it or anything, but it was kind of an awesome time.

My friend and my sister never hooked up I don't think- but I thought there was some serious sexual tension going on between them. It was around that time that I got really badly hurt in an accident. It was farked up. I almost died. But when I was in recovery my sister came to see me, and out of the clear blue sky she started gives me this awesome, slow, passionate kiss on the lips.

Sadly (although, I guess for the best) nothing ever came of it. We spent some time apart... and I started to get really religious, so I tried not to think of her that way. It was actually going well for a long time- like I was totally over her. But I have to say, like a year or so after all that stuff went down, we were out sailing (not like a date or anything romantic like that), and she was wearing like the hottest bikini I've ever farking seen and it brought back all the old feelings. Sigh.

A little while later she actually wound up with my friend from before (the sexual tension guy). I can't say I was surprised.

But even after she was shacking up with my friend, there was one time we were at a party... my friend was inside, and my sister and I were outside alone. It was a really intimate moment. I think something might have happened, except that I killed the mood when I told her that Darth Vader was our father and that I had to go face him.


And then?

/just copypasta the rest pls
 
2013-02-21 03:00:17 AM
Always a good read Oznog, but not the 1st time I'd seen that one
 
2013-02-21 03:13:40 AM

Oznog: But even after she was shacking up with my friend, there was one time we were at a party... my friend was inside, and my sister and I were outside alone. It was a really intimate moment. I think something might have happened, except that I killed the mood when I told her that Darth Vader was our father and that I had to go face him.


Well played!
Can't go wrong with the classics
 
2013-02-21 03:32:26 AM
I got a little on the ceiling.
 
2013-02-21 03:35:44 AM
One can only hope this plays out like a good George R.R. Martin incest yarn.....

/everybody dies
 
2013-02-21 03:36:41 AM
What do you win from Slate for having the most outrageous Dear Prudence letter ever?
 
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