zedster: FTFA: Larocque also faced scrutiny for increasing the capacity of the nightclub from 317 in 1999, to 404 just three months later.Any chance there was a chance in building code that lead to this?
liam76: Jesus, that is really some weapons grade stupid you are carrying around in your head.
liam76: You lied about the meaning of "ignore" to cast him in a better light,
gunther_bumpass: Maybe, maybe not, but you're far worse.
j4x: Consider yourself empirically proved to be a farking moron.
j4x: Would you like me to post the location of the testimony from the guy saying he pulled a bunch of the PE insulating foam out of the garbage and nailed it to the wall on instruction of the owner?
j4x: Would you like the bit of testimony on how the Fire Marshall had to reach his hand through an opening covered with foam to open a door he cited for opening inwards?
j4x: Or how he allowed them to increase capacity by 100 people just because they moved some pool tables into the atrium?
j4x: But yeah, just keep spewing your uniformed bullshiat and calling out people who have actually investigated the matter.
j4x: There's a lot of disinformation in this thread.1. The manager of the club gave the approval to use the pyrotechnics.2. The foam was installed before the fire inspector looked at the building. He completely ignored it seeing as he had to inspect a door covered with it.3. A bouncer blocked the band exit off at first.4. Someone actually survived the burning pileup ar the base of the door with only a minor burn on his leg.5. The band manager was pulling people from the club while the owner tried to pull off his bud light banner and the band sat around smoking cigarettes.6. If you were not out of the building in 1:30 you were either dead or severely injured.7. The fire wouldn't have been nearly as bad if they hadn't put the thin foam on top.of massive foam blocks they pulled out of the trash to soundproof the drummer alcove. That produced 90% more carbon monoxide and burned with such intensity that the building flashed over in 2 minutes.If you want an interesting read, check out the book Killer Show. It's by one of the lawyers in charge of the big injury lawsuit brought against everyone involved.
hasty ambush: Decisions, decisions choosing between a scumsuckingmaggotlawyer or an overcompensated government employee union thug who failed to do his job.
PunGent: It's not the pension per se that bothers me, it's the automatic disability part, mentioned in the article.shiat like that is making LOTS of towns broke, and not just in RI.I'm all in favor of good pay for good work...but bankrupting your former employer?So they can't hire someone to replace you?It's already happened...Google Central Falls, RI, for example.
SkunkWerks: j4x: Are you really going to pull the sources cardWhen your only salient citation is an ambulance-chaser seeking a lucrative tell-all book deal? Yes. Yes sir I am.
liam76: He ignored them.
liam76: Was it because of inattention, mailce, or bribery I don't care.
liam76: At the end of the day he didn't do his job right
liam76: FTA :A hand-written note on the inspection report reads "All OK" indicating the owners rectified the issues.The fact is they still had exit doors that swung in. Indicating they didn't actually rectify it.
liam76: You have any info showing there was another fire inspector who checked them out?
liam76: The fact is the guy was there and there is a record of him noticing huge violations and doing nothing about them.
liam76: If it makes you happy
liam76: I also think any inspector who checked that place out when it had no sprinkler
liam76: unchecked foam
liam76: should be fired.
hasty ambush: Just another Heartland Weirdass: Blame tree sclame tree. Some Govetment workers get honest to goodness pension. Lets all take that away. Freedom terrorists Satan and the little children.A $4,360-a-month, tax-free pension probably also 100% financed by the tax payer is too much plus he is not without other sources of income:Larocque is still living in West Warwick and owns several apartments, according to records from the tax assessor's officeBattalion chiefs now earn $58,191.12 yearly, not including overtime or any longevity bonuses. That means Larocque's pension payment would be at least $38,794.08. At the time of the fire, Larocque earned just over $49,000.Link
SkunkWerks: So, if the above is to be believed, the real problem wasn't the presence of the foam, but the fact that it was untreated foam. This is what incurred a violation of code related to the foam, if anything did.Of course, in order to determine this, I imagine the Fire Marshall would have had to take a sample of it and have it tested. Notice the last paragraph? The bit about having a lot of trained people arrayed in a viable enforcement program? And how lack of this is not exactly unique in small municipalities?I'll concede: the guy didn't do his job. However, it's also very probable the municipality didn't remotely equip the guy to do the job right either.
j4x: check out the book Killer Show. It's by one of the lawyers in charge of the big injury lawsuit brought against everyone involved.
j4x: There's a lot of disinformation in this thread- which I will of course "clear up" for you whilst completely failing to cite any sources for any of it. I may as well have pulled it out of my own hinder, but you will feel enlightened nonetheless.
SkunkWerks: hasty ambush: Larocque's inspection reports did not cite the flammable polyurethane foam on the walls of the club as a violation of the state fire code.Once again- and I admit, I could do the research on this myself- was the foam (just the fact that it was there at all) actually a violation of city fire code?Cause I'm not seeing anywhere in this article at least that it was.It was acoustic dampening foam used in a pretty typical application, from my perspective. Perhaps it was used in a way that made it against a fire code? It's possible, I admit. But that's not stated here. I'm having a hard time feeling angry that this guy isn't in trouble. Maybe he should be, but any evidence that would suggest he should is conspicuously absent from this article.I've been doing some reading though. JBL speakers were sued for having flammable foam in their speakers- successfully. I'm assuming the foam was, once again, an acoustic application. Just a mite overboard, maybe?
Linkster: Good thing he was in charge of the pyrotechnics that caused the fire!
the ha ha guy: SuperDuper28: That's like a cop being called out to a residence because of loud music and ignoring the meth lab in the kitchen because that's not the reason they're there.So you're saying the police should force their way inside and search the house, even if the situation is resolved at the door, or the music is being played outside? I absolutely agree, but why stop there?If someone gets pulled over for a broken taillight, they should have to submit to a roadside strip and cavity search. That might not be the reason for the stop, but the cop can't take the chance that the driver might be smuggling something illegal.If a computer hard drive is intact after a fire, the police should confiscate it and search it for illegal pornography or pirated materials.When someone drops off a lost wallet at the police station, the police should run a full background check before they're allowed to leave. Would you rather let a criminal walk out the door?In case you've forgotten, one of the 9/11 hijackers was pulled over for speeding less than 9 hours prior to the attacks. Clearly if the police had treated him as the terrorist he is, the attacks might not have happened. Can we afford to take that chance in the next terrorist attack? We can't risk waiting for terrorists to carry out their attacks, we have to start treating every potential lawbreaker as a terrorist today, only then can we Real Americans have the Freedom we've been fighting for.
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