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(WPRI Rhode Island)   The fire inspector who signed off on the Rhode Island nightclub where 100 people died in a fire in 2003 now living on a $4,360-a-month, tax-free pension   (wpri.com) divider line 128
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2013-02-20 10:36:51 PM  
Good for him
 
2013-02-20 11:12:36 PM  
Where do I sign up?  and do I have to totally look the other way while inspecting some random nightclub?
 
2013-02-20 11:46:46 PM  
Good thing he was in charge of the pyrotechnics that caused the fire!


STFU Subby!!1
 
2013-02-20 11:47:45 PM  
FTFA: Larocque also faced scrutiny for increasing the capacity of the nightclub from 317 in 1999, to 404 just three months later.

Any chance there was a chance in building code that lead to this?
 
2013-02-21 12:29:13 AM  
Per Wikipedia:

In addition to the 100 fatalities, some 230 people were injured and another 132 escaped uninjured.

100 + 230 + 132 = 462

And that's just the people we know about.

Per TFA, the capacity was supposed to be 404.

Yeah, sounds like he's completely to blame, right?
 
2013-02-21 12:52:05 AM  

zedster: FTFA: Larocque also faced scrutiny for increasing the capacity of the nightclub from 317 in 1999, to 404 just three months later.

Any chance there was a chance in building code that lead to this?


Looking it up on wikipedia, The Station was converted from a restaurant to a nightclub, hence the increase in occupancy.

The Station was previously exempt from having a sprinkler system as a restaurant. After the conversion to a nightclub, it lost that exemption, something the fire inspectors missed.

It's not clear if the highly flammable soundproofing foam was present during the inspection, or installed afterwards.

The band used unauthorized pyrotechnics, the club was vastly over-capacity, and bouncers directed people away from fire exits to the main entrance, which was blocked by a stampede of terrified patrons.

Lot of blame to go around.
 
2013-02-21 01:31:35 AM  

Linkster: Good thing he was in charge of the pyrotechnics that caused the fire!


Sid_6.7: n addition to the 100 fatalities, some 230 people were injured and another 132 escaped uninjured.

100 + 230 + 132 = 462
And that's just the people we know about.
Per TFA, the capacity was supposed to be 404.
Yeah, sounds like he's completely to blame, right?


Sgt Otter: The band used unauthorized pyrotechnics, the club was vastly over-capacity, and bouncers directed people away from fire exits to the main entrance, which was blocked by a stampede of terrified patrons.

Lot of blame to go around.


Once again for those of you in the back who may not have heard it, "Lot of blame to go around."
 
2013-02-21 01:32:28 AM  

Sid_6.7: Per Wikipedia:

In addition to the 100 fatalities, some 230 people were injured and another 132 escaped uninjured.

100 + 230 + 132 = 462

And that's just the people we know about.

Per TFA, the capacity was supposed to be 404.

Yeah, sounds like he's completely to blame, right?


It was also over capacity.  And the band's manager received jailtime, which he didn't dispute in any way.  He agreed he screwed up and took his lumps like a man.  Unlike this tool.
 
2013-02-21 01:39:55 AM  
That's right, he was the guy who set up the pyrotechnics and then set them off......
 
2013-02-21 01:40:33 AM  
I've seen the steps leading up to that tragedy several times.

At every step, of the way, there were profoundly unqualified people, who somehow convinced others, that they knew what they were doing.

Foam, is not soundproofing, it's an interior acoustic treatment.
Proper foam, such as Sonex, is very expensive,  and while it still does not "soundproof", at least it won't kill you.

Actual soundproofing is EXTREMELY expensive.
 
2013-02-21 01:46:28 AM  
something something George Bush something WMD something 600,000+ deaths
 
2013-02-21 02:36:08 AM  
And of course that Fire Marshall was responsible for installing the flammable foam after the club was inspected and opened, and responsible for that band using pyrotechnics that had no place being used in an indoor venue?

Get bent, submitter. Any chance to bust on those evil Government workers, right?
 
2013-02-21 02:48:29 AM  
Also, that's really not a ton of money. It's enough for him to live comfortably, not enough for him to live extravagantly and after a life time of work, I think that's earned.

I think all workers should be treated like that though.
 
2013-02-21 04:31:51 AM  
Is someone really insinuating that the building wasn't up to code and that this guy was half-assing his job?
 
2013-02-21 04:40:11 AM  

cretinbob: something something George Bush something WMD something 600,000+ deaths


Also Jews and brown people.
 
2013-02-21 04:46:40 AM  
Meh, I don't know. As a civil servant who's job is to enforce laws and regulations they should'd be aware of non-compliance at all times. Just being there to inspect what's needed for a liquir sales doesn't mean you can ignore everything else in plain sight. That's like a cop being called out to a residence because of loud music and ignoring the meth lab in the kitchen because that's not the reason they're there. Then again I don't really know the extent of this foam stuff. Whether it was present at the time and openly visible, he knew what is was, or if he really even saw it.......etc.
 
2013-02-21 04:47:29 AM  

cretinbob: something something George Bush something WMD something 600,000+ deaths


Jan.16, 2009: President George W. Bush will ride out the recession with a pension of $196,700. The pension begins immediately upon his departure from office at noon on Inauguration Day, January 20. And unlike many private sector pensions, Bush's payouts will grow to $203,600 next year and $210,700 in 2011.

In addition to a pension, the 1958 Former Presidents Act provides past presidents with support staff, office space, travel funds, and mailing privileges.

Bush is also eligible for health benefits for life.

Additionally, the U.S. Secret Service provides protection to former presidents, a former president's wife until death or remarriage, and minor children under 16 years of age for up to 10 years, for any president who left office after January 1, 1997. Before that date past presidents received secret service protection for life.
 
2013-02-21 04:55:41 AM  
Yes, this title is outrageous.  The fact that this guy gets a pension is simply not relevant.   Does subby realize that everybody must eventually have a pension, or they live on the street in their old age?    If the headline said "Fire Inspector gets to eat breakfast and wear socks" it wouldn't be any more ridiculous.
 
2013-02-21 04:59:11 AM  
I wish everybody had a good pension plan. I love mine.
 
2013-02-21 05:02:34 AM  
I have no problem with this guys pension. As stated earlier. Plenty of blame to go around, and this fella seems pretty far down on the blame tree.


Rest in peace Nicky O. Got my 41 tattoo in your memory.
newenglandfilm.com
 
2013-02-21 05:25:08 AM  

SuperDuper28: That's like a cop being called out to a residence because of loud music and ignoring the meth lab in the kitchen because that's not the reason they're there.



So you're saying the police should force their way inside and search the house, even if the situation is resolved at the door, or the music is being played outside? I absolutely agree, but why stop there?

If someone gets pulled over for a broken taillight, they should have to submit to a roadside strip and cavity search. That might not be the reason for the stop, but the cop can't take the chance that the driver might be smuggling something illegal.

If a computer hard drive is intact after a fire, the police should confiscate it and search it for illegal pornography or pirated materials.

When someone drops off a lost wallet at the police station, the police should run a full background check before they're allowed to leave. Would you rather let a criminal walk out the door?

In case you've forgotten, one of the 9/11 hijackers was pulled over for speeding less than 9 hours prior to the attacks. Clearly if the police had treated him as the terrorist he is, the attacks might not have happened. Can we afford to take that chance in the next terrorist attack? We can't risk waiting for terrorists to carry out their attacks, we have to start treating every potential lawbreaker as a terrorist today, only then can we Real Americans have the Freedom we've been fighting for.
 
2013-02-21 05:25:27 AM  
Blame tree sclame tree. Some Govetment workers get honest to goodness pension. Lets all take that away. Freedom terrorists Satan and the little children.
 
2013-02-21 05:31:07 AM  
Whoever allowed it to become a nightclub without a sprinkler system is really to blame,

that and the pyrotechnics.


/ffs, do people really need to be told "FIRE INSIDE= BAD!"?


//I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
 
2013-02-21 05:33:19 AM  

the ha ha guy: SuperDuper28: That's like a cop being called out to a residence because of loud music and ignoring the meth lab in the kitchen because that's not the reason they're there.


So you're saying the police should force their way inside and search the house, even if the situation is resolved at the door, or the music is being played outside? I absolutely agree, but why stop there?


Because you were done.  But you had to go  on with more examples of your clever imagination until you got boring.
 
2013-02-21 05:39:48 AM  

viscountalpha: /ffs, do people really need to be told "FIRE INSIDE= BAD!"?


No saganaki for you.
 
2013-02-21 05:43:20 AM  

the ha ha guy: SuperDuper28: That's like a cop being called out to a residence because of loud music and ignoring the meth lab in the kitchen because that's not the reason they're there.


So you're saying the police should force their way inside and search the house, even if the situation is resolved at the door, or the music is being played outside? I absolutely agree, but why stop there?

If someone gets pulled over for a broken taillight, they should have to submit to a roadside strip and cavity search. That might not be the reason for the stop, but the cop can't take the chance that the driver might be smuggling something illegal.

If a computer hard drive is intact after a fire, the police should confiscate it and search it for illegal pornography or pirated materials.

When someone drops off a lost wallet at the police station, the police should run a full background check before they're allowed to leave. Would you rather let a criminal walk out the door?

In case you've forgotten, one of the 9/11 hijackers was pulled over for speeding less than 9 hours prior to the attacks. Clearly if the police had treated him as the terrorist he is, the attacks might not have happened. Can we afford to take that chance in the next terrorist attack? We can't risk waiting for terrorists to carry out their attacks, we have to start treating every potential lawbreaker as a terrorist today, only then can we Real Americans have the Freedom we've been fighting for.


That's quite a collection of straw men you've gathered there.  In fact, I don't think I've ever seen anyone collect so many all in one place like that.

White Knights, here's a newsflash:  this guy deserves some of the blame, too.  In every disaster, without exception, there is always a chain of events leading up to the catastrophe, any one of which if it were removed or remedied, the disaster doesn't happen.  This is especially apparent in airline disasters, but it really applies to every disaster.  This guy was a part of that timeline, and if he'd done his job properly, everything that happened afterwards would have been altered, presumably averting the disaster.  While I agree his part was small, it was a part nonetheless, and holding him completely blameless is a patently ridiculous position to take.
 
2013-02-21 05:49:58 AM  

Sid_6.7: Per Wikipedia:

In addition to the 100 fatalities, some 230 people were injured and another 132 escaped uninjured.

100 + 230 + 132 = 462

And that's just the people we know about.

Per TFA, the capacity was supposed to be 404.

Yeah, sounds like he's completely to blame, right?


I'm left thinking "Isn't a 400 max cap club the kinda gig you do on the way up?"
 
2013-02-21 05:50:10 AM  

Just another Heartland Weirdass: Blame tree sclame tree. Some Govetment workers get honest to goodness pension. Lets all take that away. Freedom terrorists Satan and the little children.


A $4,360-a-month, tax-free pension probably also 100% financed by the tax payer is too much plus he is not without other sources of income:

Larocque is still living in West Warwick and owns several apartments, according to records from the tax assessor's office


Battalion chiefs now earn $58,191.12 yearly, not including overtime or any longevity bonuses. That means Larocque's pension payment would be at least $38,794.08. At the time of the fire, Larocque earned just over $49,000.


Link
 
2013-02-21 05:55:02 AM  

Linkster: Good thing he was in charge of the pyrotechnics that caused the fire!


STFU Subby!!1


Larocque, a 30-year veteran of the department, voluntarily left the fire marshal's position in 2005. He has since held the position of battalion chief. However, he has been out of work on disability for nearly 18 months. His retirement comes almost exactly five years after the deadly blaze.

In the years since the fire, Larocque has never spoken publicly about the fire or his role. Larocque's inspection reports did not cite the flammable polyurethane foam on the walls of the club as a violation of the state fire code. On Feb. 20, 2003, the foam, sparked by the pyrotechnics used to open a concert, caught fire quickly, spreading the blaze through the wood-framed building, killing 100 people and injuring hundreds of others.


He also has never explained why he raised the club's patron capacity at least twice over the three years.

Larocque's request for a disability pension will be discussed by the town's Pension Board today, according to Geoffrey E. Rousselle, chairman of the pension board.

"I haven't had a chance to look over it, but it pertains to a disability pension and it also has to do with the 18-month clause in the union contract," Rousselle said. "After 18 months, there's nothing the Pension Board can do to disallow a disability pension. It becomes automatic."


Link
 
2013-02-21 06:16:46 AM  
Subby is why we have laws.
 
2013-02-21 06:20:38 AM  
It's hard to believe that it's been ten years since a concert in RI drew more than just the band members and their girlfriends.
 
2013-02-21 06:27:54 AM  

Linkster: Good thing he was in charge of the pyrotechnics that caused the fire!


Or the people that knew the Station wasn't a safe venue for pyrotechnics, but went ahead anyway.

Or the people who decided to pack the club well over capacity.

Or the people who decided to have their bouncers block emergency exits because they didn't want anyone getting in for free...

Or the building inspectors- you know, they're also responsible for making sure buildings are compliant with safety related codes as well...

All that and I can't see anywhere in this article that the foam itself was actually in any way "illegal" or not allowed according to local building codes to have in a nightclub.  Another thing conspicuously absent from this article?

The foam was of a specific variety used for acoustics.

Acoustic dampening foam, in a venue for musical events?  Preposterous, right?


Look, I know we're all outragey here about this cause that's what we're expected to do, but you might want to consider for a moment that maybe the presence of the foam in the club wasn't the real crime here- and thus a fire inspector failing to notice it (or cite it, whatever) is also, by proxy, not a crime.

I live a mere half hour from the remains of the Station, actually.  Maybe the venue simply wasn't built for that kind of show.  The space was too enclosed for pyrotechnics.  If the foam hadn't caught, something else would.
 
2013-02-21 06:34:25 AM  

hasty ambush: Larocque's inspection reports did not cite the flammable polyurethane foam on the walls of the club as a violation of the state fire code.


Once again- and I admit, I could do the research on this myself- was the foam (just the fact that it was there at all) actually a violation of city fire code?

Cause I'm not seeing anywhere in this article at least that it was.

It was acoustic dampening foam used in a pretty typical application, from my perspective.  Perhaps it was used in a way that made it against a fire code?  It's possible, I admit.  But that's not stated here.  I'm having a hard time feeling angry that this guy isn't in trouble.  Maybe he should be, but any evidence that would suggest he should is conspicuously absent from this article.

I've been doing some reading though.  JBL speakers were sued for having flammable foam in their speakers- successfully.  I'm assuming the foam was, once again, an acoustic application.  Just a mite overboard, maybe?
 
2013-02-21 06:38:17 AM  

SkunkWerks: hasty ambush: Larocque's inspection reports did not cite the flammable polyurethane foam on the walls of the club as a violation of the state fire code.

Once again- and I admit, I could do the research on this myself- was the foam (just the fact that it was there at all) actually a violation of city fire code?

Cause I'm not seeing anywhere in this article at least that it was.

It was acoustic dampening foam used in a pretty typical application, from my perspective.  Perhaps it was used in a way that made it against a fire code?  It's possible, I admit.  But that's not stated here.  I'm having a hard time feeling angry that this guy isn't in trouble.  Maybe he should be, but any evidence that would suggest he should is conspicuously absent from this article.

I've been doing some reading though.  JBL speakers were sued for having flammable foam in their speakers- successfully.  I'm assuming the foam was, once again, an acoustic application.  Just a mite overboard, maybe?


I should add- this sentence:

Larocque's inspection reports did not cite the flammable polyurethane foam on the walls of the club as a violation of the state fire code.

Could mean that Larocque didn't cite it as a violation because it wasn't a violation.  If it was, I haven't seen that in anything I've read on the fire so far.

There's a difference between wanting something to be a violation of city fire code after some stupid, horrific incident like this and it actually being a violation of city fire code.
 
2013-02-21 06:39:06 AM  
In was living in Boston at the time, working in the radio biz, spending a lot of time in bars and clubs all over town. For a month or two after the great white fire, bouncers all over town were extremely vigilant about max occupancies, to the point of standing at the door with a clicker. "Four people out, four people in." That didn't last. But white trash bands with their indoor pyro displays have hopefully been squelched.
 
2013-02-21 06:41:33 AM  

Linkster: Good thing he was in charge of the pyrotechnics that caused the fire!


STFU Subby!!1


He was in charge of making sure there wa sa sprinkler system which would hjave saved lives.  He didn't.  He was in charge of making sure the ceiling wasn't coated with a highly flammable matwerial that would cause the fire to spread so fast.  He didn't.

Dude shoudl get nothing.

Boloxor the Insipid: Does subby realize that everybody must eventually have a pension, or they live on the street in their old age?


People who are terrible at their job, so terrible that their bad performance directly contributes tot he death of hundreds don't always aget a pension.
 
2013-02-21 06:50:19 AM  
he's living in jail??
 
2013-02-21 06:50:27 AM  
Finally found something.  Wikipedia's entry on the fire didn't have it.

http://www.fireengineering.com/1/volume-165/issue-1/features/4/stati on -nightclub-fire-revisiting-lessons-full.html

From that article:

1. Hazardous mix of building contents. This fire's ignition resulted from pyrotechnics being used in close proximity to polyurethane foam, which was attached to the walls and ceiling around the stage. It is widely believed that this foam was purchased by one of the building owners more than two years before the fire to be used around the stage as sound-deadening material. The purchasing documents indicate that the foam was not treated with any fire retardant; whether treated foam would have changed the outcome is debatable. The fire consumed the foam quickly, generating large quantities of dense black smoke. As the foam burned, it spread fire to the wood-frame structure; it became a "typical" building fire. The speed at which the fire burned was a significant factor in the large loss of life and can be primarily attributed to the pyrotechnics and the polyurethane foam.
The code issues. The use of untreated polyurethane foam was and continues to be a violation of NFPA and International Code Council (ICC) model codes as well as the regulations in use in Rhode Island at the time of the fire. The pyrotechnics used that night were not permitted by the local fire department or the fire marshal's office; this, too, was counter to model codes and the state regulations. Had the club adhered to the codes in effect at the time of the fire, neither the pyrotechnics nor the polyurethane foam would have been used. Without these factors, the fire would not have occurred.
The fact that the code was violated for more than two years indicates an overall lack of enforcement, which isn't unique to one jurisdiction; it's an issue in many communities around the United States. For regulations to be effective, there must be a viable enforcement program in place. This includes adequate staffing, training, and support. Adopting the latest model codes is a good start, but without well-trained staff in sufficient numbers to conduct regular inspections, the codes become just another book on the shelf. Without support from elected and appointed leaders in the community, the inspector becomes a hollow voice.


*Emphases, mine.

So, if the above is to be believed, the real problem wasn't the presence of the foam, but the fact that it was untreated foam.  This is what incurred a violation of code related to the foam, if anything did.

Of course, in order to determine this, I imagine the Fire Marshall would have had to take a sample of it and have it tested.  Notice the last paragraph?  The bit about having a lot of trained people arrayed in a viable enforcement program?  And how lack of this is not exactly unique in small municipalities?

I'll concede: the guy didn't do his job.  However, it's also very probable the municipality didn't remotely equip the guy to do the job right either.
 
2013-02-21 06:51:55 AM  

Pontious Pilates: bouncers all over town were extremely vigilant about max occupancies, to the point of standing at the door with a clicker. "Four people out, four people in."


Once bit, twice shy, I guess.
 
2013-02-21 06:53:28 AM  
Fire safety inspections don't include approving the use of fireworks indoors, derpity subby.
And $4,360 per month isn't that much money, either.

So what's your point?
 
2013-02-21 06:58:43 AM  

SkunkWerks: Of course, in order to determine this, I imagine the Fire Marshall would have had to take a sample of it and have it tested. Notice the last paragraph? The bit about having a lot of trained people arrayed in a viable enforcement program? And how lack of this is not exactly unique in small municipalities?

I'll concede: the guy didn't do his job. However, it's also very probable the municipality didn't remotely equip the guy to do the job right either


You are ignoring hwo he upped the limit on the max occupancy, let their lack of sprinkler fall through the cracks, and how he noticed exit doors swung in and cited it in his report but said "everything was ok".
 
2013-02-21 07:01:06 AM  
FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH!!!  holy crap, hes a rich guy!  GET HIM!

/ what is wrong with subby here?
 
j4x
2013-02-21 07:01:53 AM  
There's a lot of disinformation in this thread.1. The manager of the club gave the approval to use the pyrotechnics.2. The foam was installed before the fire inspector looked at the building. He completely ignored it seeing as he had to inspect a door covered with it.3. A bouncer blocked the band exit off at first.4. Someone actually survived the burning pileup ar the base of the door with only a minor burn on his leg.5. The band manager was pulling people from the club while the owner tried to pull off his bud light banner and the band sat around smoking cigarettes.6. If you were not out of the building in 1:30 you were either dead or severely injured.7. The fire wouldn't have been nearly as bad if they hadn't put the thin foam on top.of massive foam blocks they pulled out of the trash to soundproof the drummer alcove. That produced 90% more carbon monoxide and burned with such intensity that the building flashed over in 2 minutes.If you want an interesting read, check out the book Killer Show. It's by one of the lawyers in charge of the big injury lawsuit brought against everyone involved.
 
2013-02-21 07:06:06 AM  
It's not the pension per se that bothers me, it's the automatic disability part, mentioned in the article.

shiat like that is making LOTS of towns broke, and not just in RI.

I'm all in favor of good pay for good work...but bankrupting your former employer?
So they can't hire someone to replace you?

It's already happened...Google Central Falls, RI, for example.
 
2013-02-21 07:06:52 AM  
Considering that I only make 1700 a month, I say good for him.
 
2013-02-21 07:12:47 AM  

doczoidberg: Considering that I only make 1700 a month, I say good for him.


recruiting.fortuitus-guild.com
 
2013-02-21 07:13:06 AM  
I'm glad to see Farkers wishing well and saying "good for him."  I guess the haters can't bother to wake up early.  Seriously, how can you hate on a nubian just gettin' his hustle?
 
2013-02-21 07:13:25 AM  

liam76: You are ignoring hwo he upped the limit on the max occupan

cy, let their lack of sprinkler fall through the cracks

The article ignores this too.  Don't know if this is because it's not true, or maybe the journalism is shiat, but again, let's research...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Station_nightclub_fire#Investigatio n

A National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) investigation of the fire, using computer simulations with FDS and a mock-up of the stage area and dance floor, concluded that a fire sprinkler system would have contained the fire long enough to give everyone time to get out safely.[10] However, because of the building's age (built in 1946[10]) and size (4,484 square feet (404 m²)), many believed the Station to be exempt from sprinkler system requirements. In fact, the building had undergone an occupancy change when it was converted from a restaurant to a nightclub. This change dissolved its exemption from the law, a fact that West Warwick fire inspectors never noticed. On the night in question, the Station was legally required to have a sprinkler system but did not;[11] outcry over the event has sparked calls for a national Fire Sprinkler Incentive Act but those efforts have so far stalled.[12]

Negligence?  Very probably.  But saying that this guy "ignored" issues with the sprinkler system is disingenuous at least, and saying that he himself was the one who changed the occupancy as far as I can see is an outright fabrication.  In fact, the occupancy change was what eliminated the exemption on the sprinkler system.

liam76: and how he noticed exit doors swung in and cited it in his report but said "everything was ok".


Alright, this is a place where even the original article's shoddy journalism says you're off-mark.

FTA: Larocque cited the owners - Michael and Jeffrey Derderian - for a stage door that swung inward, a faulty fire extinguisher and exit signs, a ceiling panel broken near an exit door and an open gasoline can in the basement.

When fire marshalls cite you for something, this is very much not a statement of "everything being ok".

Sounds like you may have your facts muddled up, but I'll concede, there's definitely negligence here.  Could it again be the result of the municipality only making the most laughable efforts to have a realistically enforceable program in place?  Also very true.

I live next to Warwick, and I go there often.  The idea that it only takes one guy to inspect fire safety for an area that big is, at best, pure wishful thinking.
 
2013-02-21 07:22:09 AM  

j4x: There's a lot of disinformation in this thread- which I will of course "clear up" for you whilst completely failing to cite any sources for any of it.  I may as well have pulled it out of my own hinder, but you will feel enlightened nonetheless.


FIFTY.
 
2013-02-21 07:24:29 AM  

j4x: check out the book Killer Show. It's by one of the lawyers in charge of the big injury lawsuit brought against everyone involved.


Because a lawyer involved in winning a high-value class-action lawsuit in the case is in no way a biased source of information on the subject.

/sagenod
 
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