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(Think Progress)   Fantasy: Well, thank goodness we Americans are safe from that whole horsemeat scandal. Reality: Our beef is way more disgusting than any European meat, horse or otherwise   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 216
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2013-02-20 07:31:12 PM

timujin: iheartscotch: freewill: iheartscotch: chicken fried rabbit

We had chicken fried rabbit at the Fourth of July barbecue one year when I was a teenager.

Oh my God. So great.

Yes; my grandparents raised meat rabbits from the 30's well into the early 90's. Chicken fried rabbit, rabbit stew and rabbit pot pie were family favorites.

I'd do it too; but, cultivating eatin' rabbits is frowned upon nowadays

Really?  I didn't know that, but I have a soft spot for the things so I don't think I could eat ones I raised.  The only way I get them is if someone I know kills one in the wild or I buy them at the local market.  Much like duck, I really prefer the wild variety.


The key is; don't give them names and don't play with the ones that you know are going to get eaten.

The fondness thing is the reason why raising rabbits for meat is frowned upon; especially in cities.

I haven't eaten domesticated rabbit in a number of years. When it's all you've got though; you start seeing the rabbit as food.
 
2013-02-20 07:32:56 PM

namegoeshere: Venison FTW


Venison is only good for sausage and pepper sticks.

There is only one perfect meat on the planet, and it looks like this:

www.erschools.com
 
2013-02-20 07:34:02 PM
This reminds me. Freezer is getting empty, time to hit up the country butcher for a new quarter of beef. Local beef raised the old fashioned way. Half a year's supply for less than buying at the grocery store and will fit in the freezer compartment of my basement beer fridge. It's the only way to eat.
 
2013-02-20 07:34:29 PM

FilmBELOH20: namegoeshere: Venison FTW

Venison is only good for sausage and pepper sticks.

There is only one perfect meat on the planet, and it looks like this:

[www.erschools.com image 450x336]


Yes, but how do you harvest it, without being a menace to society.  You are so violent!  I fear for the safety of your family, friends and neighbors.
 
2013-02-20 07:34:54 PM

AlHarris31: iheartscotch: freewill: iheartscotch: chicken fried rabbit

We had chicken fried rabbit at the Fourth of July barbecue one year when I was a teenager.

Oh my God. So great.

Yes; my grandparents raised meat rabbits from the 30's well into the early 90's. Chicken fried rabbit, rabbit stew and rabbit pot pie were family favorites.

I'd do it too; but, cultivating eatin' rabbits is frowned upon nowadays

I can buy rabbit tenderloins and leg quarters at my local grocery store.  I like to make chili with them.


Really? Sometimes, you can find interesting stuff in grocery stores. One of the ones near me has Unagi and other sushi items. I'll have to ask if they have rabbit.
 
2013-02-20 07:35:53 PM

FilmBELOH20: Venison is only good for sausage and pepper sticks.


Nah. Come hunt in CNY. Our deers hang out  and get fat in the corn fields. You can fry up a steak and eat it plain. Not gamey at all.
 
2013-02-20 07:35:59 PM

pdieten: This reminds me. Freezer is getting empty, time to hit up the country butcher for a new quarter of beef. Local beef raised the old fashioned way. Half a year's supply for less than buying at the grocery store and will fit in the freezer compartment of my basement beer fridge. It's the only way to eat.


gawd-damn!  You a bad motherfarker!
 
2013-02-20 07:36:34 PM

Propain_az: FilmBELOH20: namegoeshere: Venison FTW

Venison is only good for sausage and pepper sticks.

There is only one perfect meat on the planet, and it looks like this:

[www.erschools.com image 450x336]

Yes, but how do you harvest it, without being a menace to society.  You are so violent!  I fear for the safety of your family, friends and neighbors.


If guns are outlawed, only elk will have guns!
 
2013-02-20 07:36:34 PM

namegoeshere: Venison FTW



Agreed.It's a little lean for burger, but you can't beat it for taste.
 
2013-02-20 07:36:36 PM

OscarTamerz: It's incredibly easy to sterilize meat with gamma rays which is how many things from spices  to drugs to medical supplies are sterilized.  The whackos stop this from being done...


You should move to the US. Millions of pounds of gamma treated beef is sold in the US every year. Look for the symbol (at stores - restaurants don't need to display the symbol).

"Today Americans are consuming about 18 million pounds of irradiated red meat per year, and experiencing a rapidly growing demand to over 35 million pounds of fresh irradiated produce", according to Ron Eustice the former Executive Director of the Minnesota Beef Council. "
 
2013-02-20 07:38:06 PM

mahuika: Nabb1: It is, but it's a lot cheaper here than in Europe.  And you can get higher quality meat on a par with Europe as long as you find a butcher you trust.

You know why it's cheaper, right? I'll give you a hint, it starts with a G and ends with an OVERNMENT HANDOUT


Yup. Corn and soy fed to feedlot cattle is heavily subsidized, just for starters. Not so good for the cattles' digestion or general health.

Grass-fed costs 1.5x as much, but is totally worth it.
 
2013-02-20 07:38:10 PM
I've actually consciously eaten horse.  Even more frightening, it was horse sashimi.  It was thin sliced, raw horse meat. I ate it in a Korean restaurant, in Japan.

I was young then, and interestingly so, I stopped eating meat later that year.  I don't think it was related though.
 
2013-02-20 07:38:33 PM
If you've had the crap they sell at the fast food joints lately, you know this to be true.
 
2013-02-20 07:38:41 PM
Is it so farking impossible to produce meat by:

breed cow.
feed cow well till it grows up.
slaughter cow.
cut off chunk of meat according to taste/purpose
sell meat.
cook meat
eat meat.
repeat.
 
2013-02-20 07:38:42 PM

Propain_az: FilmBELOH20: namegoeshere: Venison FTW

Venison is only good for sausage and pepper sticks.

There is only one perfect meat on the planet, and it looks like this:

[www.erschools.com image 450x336]

Yes, but how do you harvest it, without being a menace to society.  You are so violent!  I fear for the safety of your family, friends and neighbors.


I call them over to me and whisper that I'm hungry.  They lay down and stop their own heart from beating.  It's very peaceful.
 
2013-02-20 07:39:27 PM
if any ladies in this thread would like some cream-filled german sausage

bie?
eip
 
2013-02-20 07:40:40 PM

namegoeshere: iheartscotch: namegoeshere: That's why I only eat beef that once had a name.

Poor Fred. He was tasty.

But, your boloney; does it have a first name?

Yes. Oscar'slipsandasshole.


You're forgetting the fingers and dog tails.
 
2013-02-20 07:42:12 PM

FilmBELOH20: Propain_az: FilmBELOH20: namegoeshere: Venison FTW

Venison is only good for sausage and pepper sticks.

There is only one perfect meat on the planet, and it looks like this:

[www.erschools.com image 450x336]

Yes, but how do you harvest it, without being a menace to society.  You are so violent!  I fear for the safety of your family, friends and neighbors.

I call them over to me and whisper that I'm hungry.  They lay down and stop their own heart from beating.  It's very peaceful.


I once ate at this restaurant where the cow came out to the table and pointed out which bits were the tastiest. Then it nipped off to the kitchen and shot itself. It told us not to worry; it would be very humane. Now THAT was a fresh steak.
 
2013-02-20 07:42:51 PM

archichris: But if 15% of all Americans are getting sick EVERY YEAR, then there have to be people who are literally getting sick every month from food contaminents.....thats the only way that statistic can be accurate.


If you followed the links provided, the majority of the sickness is related to norovirus. The symptoms aren't usually serious.
 
2013-02-20 07:42:51 PM

iheartscotch: namegoeshere: iheartscotch: namegoeshere: That's why I only eat beef that once had a name.

Poor Fred. He was tasty.

But, your boloney; does it have a first name?

Yes. Oscar'slipsandasshole.

You're forgetting the fingers and dog tails.


Ah. I see you've had the korean baloney.
 
2013-02-20 07:43:07 PM

gaspode: Is it so farking impossible to produce meat by:

breed cow.
feed cow well till it grows up.
slaughter cow.
cut off chunk of meat according to taste/purpose
sell meat.
cook meat
eat meat.
repeat.


Sure, it's that easy on the surface, but there are assloads of variables (profit motives, biological factors) involved in your scheme, this is where shiat gets farked.  That and the scale of the operations.
 
2013-02-20 07:43:52 PM

namegoeshere: FilmBELOH20: Venison is only good for sausage and pepper sticks.

Nah. Come hunt in CNY. Our deers hang out  and get fat in the corn fields. You can fry up a steak and eat it plain. Not gamey at all.


Our deer eat sunflowers, wheat and grass for the most part so it's not like a sage fed animal or anything, I just find the taste and texture of elk far superior to any other red or brown meat out there including beef.  Then again, if I can kill it and grill it, I'm usually happy no matter what.
 
2013-02-20 07:43:54 PM

Propain_az: Why is America such a horrible place?  Why are Americans such horrible people?


Because we're number one at everything.
minorproblems.files.wordpress.com

LA-LA-LA-LA-LA! WE'RE NUMBER ONE! LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!
 
2013-02-20 07:44:09 PM

Beta Tested: AverageAmericanGuy: Taste-wise, American beef is superior to European beef. Maybe it's the contaminants. So be it.

Yea, no.  European beef is highly regional, and can vary quite a bit from country to country and even farm to farm within a country.  Cattle ranching isn't nearly as industrialized here.  Norwegian beef for example is all grass fed and raised on small farms.  It is amazing, I refuse to eat anything else while I am here.  I think Norwegian beef is the only one that Japan will import (that is something I heard though and can't find confirmation).


You can find beef in the US raised on small grass farms too. They're all over. I even found a guy here in S. Dakota who raises yaks. That's some good meat right there.
 
2013-02-20 07:44:43 PM

Cubicle Jockey: archichris: But if 15% of all Americans are getting sick EVERY YEAR, then there have to be people who are literally getting sick every month from food contaminents.....thats the only way that statistic can be accurate.

If you followed the links provided, the majority of the sickness is related to norovirus. The symptoms aren't usually serious.


I had farking norovirus last week. It may not be serious, but I tell you there were a couple of hours there where I pretty much wanted to curl up and die. Tipping over the bathroom laundry basket to sleep in the nice pile of dirty laundry...
 
2013-02-20 07:45:11 PM

iheartscotch: timujin: iheartscotch: freewill: iheartscotch: chicken fried rabbit

We had chicken fried rabbit at the Fourth of July barbecue one year when I was a teenager.

Oh my God. So great.

Yes; my grandparents raised meat rabbits from the 30's well into the early 90's. Chicken fried rabbit, rabbit stew and rabbit pot pie were family favorites.

I'd do it too; but, cultivating eatin' rabbits is frowned upon nowadays

Really?  I didn't know that, but I have a soft spot for the things so I don't think I could eat ones I raised.  The only way I get them is if someone I know kills one in the wild or I buy them at the local market.  Much like duck, I really prefer the wild variety.

The key is; don't give them names and don't play with the ones that you know are going to get eaten.

The fondness thing is the reason why raising rabbits for meat is frowned upon; especially in cities.

I haven't eaten domesticated rabbit in a number of years. When it's all you've got though; you start seeing the rabbit as food.


Don't doubt, if it came down to me or the bunny, the bunny gets it.  But I live in a society overflowing with more food than we know what to do with, so I have the luxury of being picky.  Come the apocalypse, Mr. Pickles is farked.
 
2013-02-20 07:47:01 PM

Beta Tested: rooftop235:
I am interested in trying a horse meat burger.
And why do we call it a hamburger when it's made of beef?

Horse meat tastes basically like beef, it is pretty good.  It is mostly used here in things like salami and what not, although you can buy cuts of it.

/Has whale meat in the freezer


YOU MONSTER!
 
2013-02-20 07:47:51 PM

Propain_az: Why is America such a horrible place?  Why are Americans such horrible people?


Manifest Douchetiny
 
2013-02-20 07:48:04 PM
If you are eating meat, and you have been eating it for awhile totally believing it is beef. Why the fark do you care? If horse meat is good enough to pass as beef fark it eat horse meat? Is there something wrong with horse meat that I don't know about? I haven't heard anything about mad horse disease. People are far too sensitive when it comes to food IMHO. You are an animal. An omnivore, if you didn't live in civilization and you were hungry and a horse walked, you would try to kill and eat the horse just the same as if a cow walked by.
 
2013-02-20 07:49:49 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-02-20 07:50:58 PM

tonygotskilz: You are an animal. An omnivore, if you didn't live in civilization and you were hungry and a horse walked, you would try to kill and eat the horse just the same as if a cow walked by.


MOO!!!

lovethatred.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-20 07:52:11 PM
I can go to the grocery store at 8pm on Sunday.

Suck on that, Europe.
 
2013-02-20 07:54:09 PM

timujin: iheartscotch: timujin: iheartscotch: freewill: iheartscotch: chicken fried rabbit

We had chicken fried rabbit at the Fourth of July barbecue one year when I was a teenager.

Oh my God. So great.

Yes; my grandparents raised meat rabbits from the 30's well into the early 90's. Chicken fried rabbit, rabbit stew and rabbit pot pie were family favorites.

I'd do it too; but, cultivating eatin' rabbits is frowned upon nowadays

Really?  I didn't know that, but I have a soft spot for the things so I don't think I could eat ones I raised.  The only way I get them is if someone I know kills one in the wild or I buy them at the local market.  Much like duck, I really prefer the wild variety.

The key is; don't give them names and don't play with the ones that you know are going to get eaten.

The fondness thing is the reason why raising rabbits for meat is frowned upon; especially in cities.

I haven't eaten domesticated rabbit in a number of years. When it's all you've got though; you start seeing the rabbit as food.

Don't doubt, if it came down to me or the bunny, the bunny gets it.  But I live in a society overflowing with more food than we know what to do with, so I have the luxury of being picky.  Come the apocalypse, Mr. Pickles is farked.


Wellllll; not exactly. If mr. pickles has his bits intact; you could get him a mrs. pickles and eat their offsprings. They'd be like the little kosher pickles. You'd survive longer that way.
 
2013-02-20 07:54:32 PM
I used to hunt rabbit and grey squirrel (country squirrel - big difference) back when I was a kid in Arkansas. I actually preferred the squirrel - as the rabbits were so tough. Rattlesnake was bland and chewy, dove was EXCELLENT & easy to clean too...
 
2013-02-20 07:56:17 PM
If anyone complaining or whining eats at Burger King, McDonalds or god forbid Taco Bell, you are the epitome of irony.
 
2013-02-20 07:58:21 PM

Matthew Keene: tonygotskilz: You are an animal. An omnivore, if you didn't live in civilization and you were hungry and a horse walked, you would try to kill and eat the horse just the same as if a cow walked by.

MOO!!!

[lovethatred.files.wordpress.com image 650x432]



She broke my heart man...she broke my farking heart.   I'll never get over it..I'm loving and kissing all over her one day....and I meet some dude,loving and kissing all over her,coming up the other side.
 
2013-02-20 07:58:24 PM
ih3.redbubble.net
 
2013-02-20 08:01:04 PM

ThunderChicken: namegoeshere: Venison FTW


Agreed.It's a little lean for burger, but you can't beat it for taste.


I love venison burgers.  It's actually one of the things I miss most now that I'm in California... it was always so easy to come by when I lived in the South.
 
2013-02-20 08:01:28 PM

namegoeshere: Venison FTW


Where I used to live, the deer and cows were eating the same thing: corn.
 
2013-02-20 08:02:10 PM

shotglasss: A think progress link? No thanks, I get enough ultra-left garbage from NBC news.


Good catch. Wouldn't want to impinge on that Echo Chamber.

If Rush doesn't say it, it didn't happen, amirite?

\damn, I'm glad I use those favorites to mark the real nutbags
 
2013-02-20 08:02:10 PM
Carmine, a red food coloring commonly used in yogurt and juice, is made by grinding up beetles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmine
 
2013-02-20 08:02:30 PM

tonygotskilz: If you are eating meat, and you have been eating it for awhile totally believing it is beef. Why the fark do you care? If horse meat is good enough to pass as beef fark it eat horse meat? Is there something wrong with horse meat that I don't know about?


Putting aside the culture aspect that you've deemed insufficient, isn't it enough to be freaked out to know how little oversight companies like Nestle are giving to their producers? And yes, I am cynical and realize I am lied to by marketing on a daily basis, but that doesn't mean we still shouldn't feel outraged when the lies are made public.
 
2013-02-20 08:02:55 PM

rooftop235: And why do we call it a hamburger when it's made of beef?


...I'd like to know where in Germany the town of Cheeseburg is.
 
2013-02-20 08:02:57 PM

UsikFark: namegoeshere: Venison FTW

Where I used to live, the deer and cows were eating the same thing: corn.


Yup. That makes 'em tasty.
 
2013-02-20 08:03:48 PM
I get my steaks from a butcher who gets a cow that grazed on a ranch about twenty miles away.   Pretty sure it's as safe as any.
 
2013-02-20 08:07:05 PM

jigger: Don't worry the government will protect us from this.

[twimg0-a.akamaihd.net image 250x250]


You're right, they won't protect us. Not as long as the people we allow to represent our best interests are cronies of lobbyist scum.
 
2013-02-20 08:09:02 PM
I've got 16lbs of brisket about to come off the smoker, and *now* they tell me I should have used that English horse?

THANKS OBAMA!
 
2013-02-20 08:11:11 PM
Welcome to the jungle
We've got fun 'n' games
We got everything you want
Honey, we know the names
We are the people that can find
Whatever you may need
If you got the money, honey
We got your disease

upload.wikimedia.org

CUT FUNDING TO THE FDA because terr'ists.

ww4.hdnux.com

They never learn.
 
2013-02-20 08:11:51 PM
I don't understand why the horsemeat thing is such a scandal.  Oh, sure, false advertising, whatever, go ahead and be pissed about that - but that doesn't seem to bother anyone so much as the meat itself.

I avoid most fast food joints like the plague, but if BK put a horsewhopper on the menu, I'd probably give it a try.
 
2013-02-20 08:12:32 PM

IlGreven: rooftop235: And why do we call it a hamburger when it's made of beef?

...I'd like to know where in Germany the town of Cheeseburg is.


I believe it's next to the town of Whataburg.
 
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