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(Think Progress)   Fantasy: Well, thank goodness we Americans are safe from that whole horsemeat scandal. Reality: Our beef is way more disgusting than any European meat, horse or otherwise   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 216
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2013-02-20 04:41:56 PM  
Yes, but consider the alternative:
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2013-02-20 04:44:22 PM  
If wishes were horses we'd all be eating steak for dinner. Think about that.

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2013-02-20 04:53:54 PM  

johnnieconnie: If wishes were horses we'd all be eating steak for dinner. Think about that.

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2013-02-20 05:00:11 PM  
It is, but it's a lot cheaper here than in Europe.  And you can get higher quality meat on a par with Europe as long as you find a butcher you trust.
 
2013-02-20 05:27:12 PM  
Meat?

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Meat?

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2013-02-20 05:32:11 PM  

Nabb1: It is, but it's a lot cheaper here than in Europe.  And you can get higher quality meat on a par with Europe as long as you find a butcher you trust.


You know why it's cheaper, right? I'll give you a hint, it starts with a G and ends with an OVERNMENT HANDOUT
 
2013-02-20 05:35:52 PM  
Depends on where you get your beef.

/unzips.......
 
2013-02-20 05:42:15 PM  
That's almost literally what I thought when this news broke.
 
2013-02-20 05:59:40 PM  
fark off, subby. Horse is good. Eurpope's just uptight.
 
2013-02-20 06:22:42 PM  
Horse seems like it would taste good and be good for you.
 
2013-02-20 06:23:12 PM  
Don't worry the government will protect us from this.

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2013-02-20 06:23:27 PM  

doglover: fark off, subby. Horse is good. Eurpope's just uptight.


Try serving Flicka in the USA and see what happens.
 
2013-02-20 06:23:32 PM  
Taste-wise, American beef is superior to European beef. Maybe it's the contaminants. So be it.
 
2013-02-20 06:23:47 PM  
blatz514: Meat?

Someone should try deep frying pink slime...
 
2013-02-20 06:23:54 PM  
Meat's meat, and a man's gotta eat!
 
2013-02-20 06:24:39 PM  

mahuika: Nabb1: It is, but it's a lot cheaper here than in Europe.  And you can get higher quality meat on a par with Europe as long as you find a butcher you trust.

You know why it's cheaper, right? I'll give you a hint, it starts with a G and ends with an OVERNMENT HANDOUT


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2013-02-20 06:28:07 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Taste-wise, American beef is superior to European beef. Maybe it's the contaminants. So be it.


I am interested in trying a horse meat burger.
And why do we call it a hamburger when it's made of beef?
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2013-02-20 06:28:15 PM  
There is, however, plenty of evidence that many Americans are inadvertently eating a side of deadly bacteria like salmonella or e. coli with their burgers.

Cook your burger thoroughly and wash your goddamn hands and you should be OK.


doglover: fark off, subby. Horse is good. Eurpope's just uptight.


I think the problem is that horses aren't meant to be eaten in most cases and so they're often pumped full of drugs that aren't allowed in cattle.
 
2013-02-20 06:28:42 PM  
It's incredibly easy to sterilize meat with gamma rays which is how many things from spices  to drugs to medical supplies are sterilized.  The whackos stop this from being done because it's scary radiation and the deaths from food infections exceed gun murders every year.  And just so the vegans don't feel smug the food borne infections from fruits and vegetables exceed the food borne infections from meat every year too.  Better fry up that salad if you want it to be actually healthy.
 
2013-02-20 06:29:35 PM  
neigh
 
2013-02-20 06:30:13 PM  
Everybody poops. Even veggies have risks. Cows taste much better than horses.
 
2013-02-20 06:30:36 PM  

fusillade762: There is, however, plenty of evidence that many Americans are inadvertently eating a side of deadly bacteria like salmonella or e. coli with their burgers.

Cook your burger thoroughly and you should be OK.


I do, but the bun always gets soggy.
 
2013-02-20 06:30:50 PM  
I pick at my ass down at the supermarket, and then I touch your foods without washing my hands.
 
2013-02-20 06:30:59 PM  

rooftop235: And why do we call it a hamburger when it's made of beef?


Because that style of serving (originally) minced beef originated in Hamburg, Germany.
 
2013-02-20 06:31:53 PM  
Probably because of too much regulation. And not enough guns. More guns, less regulation. That's the answer, right?

/ I propose more boobies
 
2013-02-20 06:32:01 PM  
I just stick with sausage. You know whats in it
 
2013-02-20 06:34:05 PM  
rooftop235:
I am interested in trying a horse meat burger.
And why do we call it a hamburger when it's made of beef?


Horse meat tastes basically like beef, it is pretty good.  It is mostly used here in things like salami and what not, although you can buy cuts of it.

/Has whale meat in the freezer
 
2013-02-20 06:34:35 PM  
OBVIOUS tag on a diet?  This is one of those cases where capitalism more or less works as designed.  The problem isn't that the government doesn't punish and even supports & rewards the most odious companies in charge of our food supply.  Well it is, but it happens because no one really cares -- it's a symptom of society, not the disease.  The problem is that even when businesses do get caught, consumers don't punish them either.

The "pink slime" scandal was illuminating.  The stuff is actually quite benign; as far as fast food ingredients that post health risks it probably wouldn't crack the top 20, but some companies stopped buying it because of public outrage.  The question that was never asked was, how do food companies operate that would make them receptive to using pink slime in the first place?  But no, as soon as their favorite household names stopped using the stuff, people went right back to buying food without asking the most basic questions about what they're eating.
 
2013-02-20 06:35:51 PM  

Matthew Keene: doglover: fark off, subby. Horse is good. Eurpope's just uptight.

Try serving Flicka in the USA and see what happens.


Why not try during the Kentucky Derby for maximum trolling?
 
2013-02-20 06:36:28 PM  

OscarTamerz: It's incredibly easy to sterilize meat with gamma rays which is how many things from spices  to drugs to medical supplies are sterilized.  The whackos stop this from being done because it's scary radiation and the deaths from food infections exceed gun murders every year.  And just so the vegans don't feel smug the food borne infections from fruits and vegetables exceed the food borne infections from meat every year too.  Better fry up that salad if you want it to be actually healthy.


This.

Totally this.
 
2013-02-20 06:36:39 PM  
Journalistic crap.  They are equating the estimated number of hospital visits in Europe to the number of estimated upset-stomach  non-hospital events in the US.  The CDC and the European CDC likely has different standards for reporting food born illnesses.
 
2013-02-20 06:37:16 PM  

OscarTamerz: the deaths from food infections exceed gun murders every year


I'm gonna need a citation on that one.
 
2013-02-20 06:37:40 PM  

A Terrible Human: Matthew Keene: doglover: fark off, subby. Horse is good. Eurpope's just uptight.

Try serving Flicka in the USA and see what happens.

Why not try during the Kentucky Derby for maximum trolling?


I'm not against horsemeat being served. Label it as such, and I'll be one of the first to fry up some horsey burgers.
 
2013-02-20 06:37:48 PM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Probably because of too much regulation. And not enough guns. More guns, less regulation. That's the answer, right?

/ I propose more boobies


FTA:  the stalled House Farm Bill included provisions banning all state regulation of nearly any agricultural product.

The dream is within sight!
 
2013-02-20 06:38:39 PM  
A think progress link? No thanks, I get enough ultra-left garbage from NBC news.
 
2013-02-20 06:39:17 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Taste-wise, American beef is superior to European beef. Maybe it's the contaminants. So be it.


Yea, no.  European beef is highly regional, and can vary quite a bit from country to country and even farm to farm within a country.  Cattle ranching isn't nearly as industrialized here.  Norwegian beef for example is all grass fed and raised on small farms.  It is amazing, I refuse to eat anything else while I am here.  I think Norwegian beef is the only one that Japan will import (that is something I heard though and can't find confirmation).
 
2013-02-20 06:40:16 PM  
Uhhhhhh.  This article pisses me off to no end.  First off, of course meat is better in Europe, and it has nothing to do with cleanliness.  It has to do with diet.  Who cares if the cows live in shiat, so do pigs.  The stuff you eat is on the INSIDE of the animals people...

Also, most all foodborne ilnesses come from improper cooking.  It has nothing to do with the quality of the product.

Matthew Keene: I pick at my ass down at the supermarket, and then I touch your foods without washing my hands.


This is perfectly fine.  Steaks should be seared on the outside which kills any bacteria.  Ground meat should be cooked all the way through.  Shellfish should be cooked thoroughly, and fish steaks, if not frozen for a period of time at a specific temperature (to kill the bacteria) should be seared on the outside as well. (That doesn't count sushi, etc)
 
2013-02-20 06:40:54 PM  
Article is pure B.S.  Author seems to think that Europe is better than the States in all things.  Now it is horse meat, a decade ago it was mad cow disease causing Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease.  That was again a European problem.  Its why you can't donate blood if you spent more than 6 months in  Europe during the 80s and 90s.
 
2013-02-20 06:40:59 PM  
WOW

15% of Americans get food illness EVERY YEAR!

Lets see, no one in my family has ever had a serious food illness. The only instance of food poisoning that we can relate is an under cooked piece of restaurant chicken ten years ago that produces a single episode of vomiting.

Its worse than that though, my uncle is a primary care physician and he mentioned coincidentally last thanksgiving that food poisoning, salmonella and e coli are reasonably rare events in our area.  He was in no way poking fun at my wife's turkey dinner.

But if 15% of all Americans are getting sick EVERY YEAR, then there have to be people who are literally getting sick every month from food contaminents.....thats the only way that statistic can be accurate.

So Im just going to say BS and cook your meat thouroughly. And dont eat tripe, that shiat is disgusting, they eat that crap  all over in Europe.
 
2013-02-20 06:42:23 PM  
Please don't remind me of any of this.  It is not healthy for me to stop eating meat, in fact, it should be 85% of my diet to better lose weight.   I did not read the article or any comments because it does not take much to turn my stomach.  I have been known to stop eating meat for 2  or more years out of disgust.    Off to fry up some Johnson's mild Italian sausage to be served with habanero munster.
 
2013-02-20 06:44:03 PM  

coco ebert: That's almost literally what I thought when this news broke.


I even went as far as saying exactly that in a Jan 24th article about Burger King not putting horse meat in their burgers. "There are cow anuses and eyeballs in that meat, horse meat would be a vast improvement."
 
2013-02-20 06:44:05 PM  

OscarTamerz: It's incredibly easy to sterilize meat with gamma rays which is how many things from spices  to drugs to medical supplies are sterilized.  The whackos stop this from being done because it's scary radiation and the deaths from food infections exceed gun murders every year.  And just so the vegans don't feel smug the food borne infections from fruits and vegetables exceed the food borne infections from meat every year too.  Better fry up that salad if you want it to be actually healthy.


Most people dying from food infections are slobs, old senile people, & people who like to eat fancy pants food like raw seafood.

Some people die from bacteria on food boohoo. Humans are in no danger of going extinct. The ones with superior immune systems are supposed to survive.
 
2013-02-20 06:46:09 PM  

Shadi: blatz514: Meat?

Someone should try deep frying pink slime...


What do you think a chicken anything at any fast food joint is?

Here in Virginia, horse is big business. Part of that business was of course sending off the horses off to the butcher to the foreign market. Then they made a regulation that said you couldn't send the horsies to the butcher or rendering plant..

Okay fine... so now they ship the horses to Mexico to be butchered or rendered. All the regulations managed to do was ship jobs over the boarder.

Because horseies are cute and magical!

I personally could care less about horses, and I've eaten horse meat and quite enjoyed it. But, it isn't beef, which was bred for eons to be as tasty as it is. I will take a cut of beef over the same cut of horse any day of the week. But a good chunk of this states GDP has been compromised because you can no longer raise mutt horse as butcher able livestock. But at the same point, the practice hasn't stopped, so the regulations haven't worked.

And overall.. all this is a big deal about nothing. If you are buying cheap ass ground meat for your mass produced product, deal with what you get. Horsemeat in the mix seems to me a first world problem.
I meen really! What do you think happens to all those ponies all those little girls wish for when the families can no longer afford the stabling and feed? They get turned into glue, biodesiel and taco bell meat
 
2013-02-20 06:46:20 PM  
We are building strong immune systems, one burger at a time.
 
2013-02-20 06:47:50 PM  
FTA:  According to

Because Socialism!

Value the EPA puts on an American life: $5,000,000
Value the Japanese put on a Japanese life: $100,000,000
Value Europeans put on a good dinner: Priceless.
 
2013-02-20 06:48:02 PM  
The solution is obviously to get rid of the USDA, the FDA, the EPA, and the ED.

/libertarian thinking
 
2013-02-20 06:48:13 PM  

Nabb1: It is, but it's a lot cheaper here than in Europe.  And you can get higher quality meat on a par with Europe as long as you find a butcher you trust.


You can, but it will cost nearly the same.

A hunk of beef tenderloin at my local butcher (it comes from a farm just outside the city) costs 289 NOK per kilo, so about $23/lb.  I am not really familiar with US beef prices now but I found grass-fed tenderloin of dubious origin (as in I can't point to the farm on google maps) for $16/lb.   It isn't all that large a difference considering how much more expensive Norway is.
 
2013-02-20 06:48:25 PM  
Infected Waste Runoff is my new band name.
 
2013-02-20 06:48:26 PM  
Having bought ground beef in Ireland, no. Just no. I'm sure better stuff is available, but that was, by far, the worst meat I've ever cooked.
 
2013-02-20 06:49:00 PM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Probably because of too much regulation. And not enough guns. More guns, less regulation. That's the answer, right?

/ I propose more boobies


No, only raising taxes on the wealthiest Americans will solve this problem.
 
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