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(Townhall)   Forget Reagan. Let's bring back that guy who was president until 1929, I'm sure his laissez-faire, low-tax policies led to something great   (finance.townhall.com) divider line 203
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2013-02-20 12:49:19 PM
Do you think they're just trolling the more severely encephalitic baggers? or actually serious? I honestly can't tell any more.
 
2013-02-20 01:04:25 PM

MisterTweak: Do you think they're just trolling the more severely encephalitic baggers? or actually serious? I honestly can't tell any more.


Seriously, I can't believe they used this graph in earnest:


danieljmitchell.files.wordpress.com


"But guys, look how amazing everything was, right up until 1929! Oh the rest of the 21st century? We, uh, ran out of room."
 
2013-02-20 01:24:14 PM
But it's not just that the Gipper had good rhetoric. He also did adecent job of restraining spending

LMAO!!

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2013-02-20 04:31:39 PM
I really don't get what this sudden fascination with Calvin Frickin' Coolidge is.  He's practically a poster child for "at least I'm not Fillmore."
 
2013-02-20 04:42:22 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-20 04:53:00 PM
Keep cool with Coolidge.
 
2013-02-20 04:59:33 PM

mahuika: Seriously, I can't believe they used this graph in earnest:

[danieljmitchell.files.wordpress.com image 662x462]


"If this trend continues ... AAAAAAAAAY!"
"Uh, your goldfish are dead."
"Yeah, I, uh, can't get them outta there."
 
2013-02-20 05:01:38 PM
Wasn't Coolidge the guy who didn't talk much? His nickname was "Silent Cal"?

One time, a guy came up to him and said "I bet you $5 that I can get you to say 3 words to me".

Cal said "Fark you"
 
2013-02-20 05:10:28 PM

vernonFL: Wasn't Coolidge the guy who didn't talk much? His nickname was "Silent Cal"?

One time, a guy came up to him and said "I bet you $5 that I can get you to say 3 words to me".

Cal said "Fark you"


Actually, it was "You lose." And it wasn't a guy, it was Dorothy Parker.

And when told Coolidge had died, Parker reportedly replied, "How can they tell?"

/love Dorothy Parker
 
2013-02-20 05:10:33 PM
But it's not just that the Gipper had good rhetoric. He also did a decent job of restraining spending and he significantly lowered marginal tax rates.

I didn't read any further than that. Is he joking?
 
2013-02-20 05:14:48 PM
He can keep going back into history, if he wants. At some point it will dawn on him that none of his heroes were what his ideology demands they be.
 
2013-02-20 05:19:43 PM

mahuika: MisterTweak: Do you think they're just trolling the more severely encephalitic baggers? or actually serious? I honestly can't tell any more.

Seriously, I can't believe they used this graph in earnest:


[danieljmitchell.files.wordpress.com image 662x462]


"But guys, look how amazing everything was, right up until 1929! Oh the rest of the 21st century? We, uh, ran out of room."


The rest of the 20th century doesn't help.

dumbimages.net
 
2013-02-20 05:25:44 PM
Though it's also clear that the statist policies of Hoover and Roosevelt turned the downturn into a Great Depression.

The depression started in 1929.  Roosevelt became president starting in 1933.  He was so bad at his job that he was elected for it four times in a row.
 
2013-02-20 05:26:52 PM

mahuika: vernonFL: Wasn't Coolidge the guy who didn't talk much? His nickname was "Silent Cal"?

One time, a guy came up to him and said "I bet you $5 that I can get you to say 3 words to me".

Cal said "Fark you"

Actually, it was "You lose." And it wasn't a guy, it was Dorothy Parker.

And when told Coolidge had died, Parker reportedly replied, "How can they tell?"

/love Dorothy Parker


The first one was probably apocryphal.

Still funny though.
 
2013-02-20 05:28:43 PM
You know who else saved us from the Great Depression?

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2013-02-20 05:49:46 PM

vernonFL: Wasn't Coolidge the guy who didn't talk much? His nickname was "Silent Cal"?


"President Coolidge is dead."

"How can you tell?"
 
2013-02-20 05:51:59 PM
These guys are trolling, right?  This is just the set up...right?
 
2013-02-20 05:52:44 PM
Good. The Republicans need to lay off the Reagan for a while. I have no doubt every Republican who's run for national office in recent history asks themselves "What would Reagan do?" before they go on stage, and that's a huge problem.

Reagan was able to quote Ayn Rand and pander to the Bible thumping crazies because he actually had charisma and a sense of humor. When you're a humorless vanilla-flavored moneysack like Mitt Romney, that kind of talk just makes you seem like an asshole.

Beyond that I think everyone is just sick of Reagan's talking points. We've all heard the term "big government" so many times we just tune out whoever's saying it. Romney is not Ronald Reagan, Rick Santorum is not Ronald Reagan, and Marco Rubio isn't Ronald Reagan, so Republicans please stop trying to emulate Ronald Reagan all the time. Pick some other Republican scumbag like Nixon and let the country cleanse their palette.
 
2013-02-20 05:53:05 PM
Finally, conservatives are ditching Reagan for somebody today's young voters can really get stoked about.
 
2013-02-20 05:54:01 PM
Historical revisionism strikes again!
 
2013-02-20 05:56:07 PM
Yeah, it was certainly Coolidge's fault that the Great Depression happened. No, wait, it wasn't.

When Black Tuesday hit, Roosevelt and the other Democrats in power increased government spending, shrank the monetary supply, fiddled with rules governing the labor market, and screwed around with banking regulations - pretty much undoing most of the things Coolidge had done, and causing what should have been a medium-sized recession to deepen and last most of a decade.

But it's all his fault, you see. Somehow. Just like the current insane spending and other stupid decisions by the Democrats are still Bush's fault. Somehow.
 
2013-02-20 05:57:18 PM
One final point. Just like Reagan was far from perfect, the same is true of Coolidge. I've never studied the economics of the 1920s, but it seems likely that some of the policies of that decade helped set the stage for an economic downturn.

I am simply shocked to find that out.
 
2013-02-20 05:58:17 PM

FriarReb98: I really don't get what this sudden fascination with Calvin Frickin' Coolidge is.  He's practically a poster child for "at least I'm not Fillmore."


But Fillmore founded the University of Buffalo....  Coolidge didn't do that much for society...


Maybe "at least I'm not Bush II"
 
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2013-02-20 05:58:51 PM

cmunic8r99: mahuika: MisterTweak: Do you think they're just trolling the more severely encephalitic baggers? or actually serious? I honestly can't tell any more.

Seriously, I can't believe they used this graph in earnest:


[danieljmitchell.files.wordpress.com image 662x462]


"But guys, look how amazing everything was, right up until 1929! Oh the rest of the 21st century? We, uh, ran out of room."

The rest of the 20th century doesn't help.

[dumbimages.net image 850x475]


that is a different scale - you need a graph of GDP growth year on year
 
2013-02-20 05:59:56 PM
They're just screwing with people now right? They know they can type absolutely anything and they know there are people out there that will believe it because they want to, but this is taking it a little far isn't it? It's like there's an interoffice bet going on here.

"I bet you can't write a convincing article that actually praises the policies that led up to the Great Depression and places all the blame on the people that ended up fixing it afterwards."

"Watch me, I've been doing that for the last 4 years."
 
2013-02-20 06:00:33 PM

cirby: Yeah, it was certainly Coolidge's fault that the Great Depression happened. No, wait, it wasn't.

When Black Tuesday hit, Roosevelt and the other Democrats in power increased government spending, shrank the monetary supply, fiddled with rules governing the labor market, and screwed around with banking regulations - pretty much undoing most of the things Coolidge had done, and causing what should have been a medium-sized recession to deepen and last most of a decade.

But it's all his fault, you see. Somehow. Just like the current insane spending and other stupid decisions by the Democrats are still Bush's fault. Somehow.


"Funny"ed!
 
2013-02-20 06:01:08 PM
FTFA: "Just like Reagan was far from perfect, the same is true of Coolidge. I've never studied the economics of the 1920s, but it seems likely that some of the policies of that decade...helped set the stage for an economic downturn. "

YOU DON'T SAY.

How can this possibly not be trolling?
 
2013-02-20 06:02:29 PM

cirby: Yeah, it was certainly Coolidge's fault that the Great Depression happened. No, wait, it wasn't.

When Black Tuesday hit, Roosevelt and the other Democrats in power increased government spending, shrank the monetary supply, fiddled with rules governing the labor market, and screwed around with banking regulations - pretty much undoing most of the things Coolidge had done, and causing what should have been a medium-sized recession to deepen and last most of a decade.

But it's all his fault, you see. Somehow. Just like the current insane spending and other stupid decisions by the Democrats are still Bush's fault. Somehow.


Black Thursday: October 24, 1929

FDR's Inauguration: March 4, 1933
 
2013-02-20 06:02:37 PM

cirby: Yeah, it was certainly Coolidge's fault that the Great Depression happened. No, wait, it wasn't.

When Black Tuesday hit, Roosevelt and the other Democrats in power increased government spending, shrank the monetary supply, fiddled with rules governing the labor market, and screwed around with banking regulations - pretty much undoing most of the things Coolidge had done, and causing what should have been a medium-sized recession to deepen and last most of a decade.

But it's all his fault, you see. Somehow. Just like the current insane spending and other stupid decisions by the Democrats are still Bush's fault. Somehow.


Wow, that's some revisionist history there.

As the governor of New York what power did Roosevelt have to increase government spending, shrink the monetary supply, fiddle with rules governing the labor market, and screw around with banking regulations?
 
2013-02-20 06:03:53 PM
Coolidge wasn't bad, but he wasn't exactly someone to write home about either. He's definitely one of the most interesting personalities to be President thought.
 
2013-02-20 06:04:21 PM
I assume subby is referring to the First Great Clinton/Obama Depression?

/first but not LAST!
 
2013-02-20 06:04:42 PM

cirby: Yeah, it was certainly Coolidge's fault that the Great Depression happened. No, wait, it wasn't.

When Black Tuesday hit, Roosevelt and the other Democrats in power increased government spending, shrank the monetary supply, fiddled with rules governing the labor market, and screwed around with banking regulations - pretty much undoing most of the things Coolidge had done, and causing what should have been a medium-sized recession to deepen and last most of a decade.

But it's all his fault, you see. Somehow. Just like the current insane spending and other stupid decisions by the Democrats are still Bush's fault. Somehow.


LOL!  Good satire!
 
2013-02-20 06:04:44 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: One final point. Just like Reagan was far from perfect, the same is true of Coolidge. I've never studied the economics of the 1920s, but it seems likely that some of the policies of that decade helped set the stage for an economic downturn.

I am simply shocked to find that out.


Dammit.
 
2013-02-20 06:05:58 PM
Mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again?
 
2013-02-20 06:06:05 PM

cirby: Yeah, it was certainly Coolidge's fault that the Great Depression happened. No, wait, it wasn't.

When Black Tuesday hit, Roosevelt and the other Democrats in power increased government spending, shrank the monetary supply, fiddled with rules governing the labor market, and screwed around with banking regulations - pretty much undoing most of the things Coolidge had done, and causing what should have been a medium-sized recession to deepen and last most of a decade.

But it's all his fault, you see. Somehow. Just like the current insane spending and other stupid decisions by the Democrats are still Bush's fault. Somehow.


Too bad we didn't have smart guys like you around back then, we could have avoided the whole thing!
 
2013-02-20 06:06:21 PM
Our two greatest presidents were liberals for their time (FDR and Lincoln). Our five worst presidents were conservatives economically, socially, or both for their time (Reagan, W., Buchanan, Johnson, Hoover).

Study it out, conservatards.
 
2013-02-20 06:06:37 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: cirby: Yeah, it was certainly Coolidge's fault that the Great Depression happened. No, wait, it wasn't.

When Black Tuesday hit, Roosevelt and the other Democrats in power increased government spending, shrank the monetary supply, fiddled with rules governing the labor market, and screwed around with banking regulations - pretty much undoing most of the things Coolidge had done, and causing what should have been a medium-sized recession to deepen and last most of a decade.

But it's all his fault, you see. Somehow. Just like the current insane spending and other stupid decisions by the Democrats are still Bush's fault. Somehow.

Black Thursday: October 24, 1929

FDR's Inauguration: March 4, 1933


Forget it, he's trollin'
 
2013-02-20 06:07:56 PM

Empty Matchbook: I assume subby is referring to the First Great Clinton/Obama Depression?

/first but not LAST!


Jesus, don't they teach history anymore? I thought veryone knew that the first great Clinton/Obama depression was the Long Depression of 1873. And the Panic of 1893 occurred because Mooshell made all the railroad executives eat vegetable. Study it out!
 
2013-02-20 06:08:20 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Black Thursday: October 24, 1929

FDR's Inauguration: March 4, 1933


Ha ha, yes, but FDR was a Democrat! All economic collapses are caused by Democrats, either before they happen or retroactively. Just like Obama caused the 2008 financial crisis despite not having been elected president yet.

Check the conservative part of your gut and you'll see this is true.
 
2013-02-20 06:12:38 PM
Two popups and I got down to "Reagan inspired and cut taxes..." then I stopped reading.
Insipid dreck.
 
2013-02-20 06:12:42 PM

cirby: Yeah, it was certainly Coolidge's fault that the Great Depression happened. No, wait, it wasn't.

When Black Tuesday hit, Roosevelt and the other Democrats in power increased government spending, shrank the monetary supply, fiddled with rules governing the labor market, and screwed around with banking regulations - pretty much undoing most of the things Coolidge had done, and causing what should have been a medium-sized recession to deepen and last most of a decade.

But it's all his fault, you see. Somehow. Just like the current insane spending and other stupid decisions by the Democrats are still Bush's fault. Somehow.


So, if we had only stayed the course in Coolridge's time, everything would have been just dandy? And the same goes for the end of bush2's era as well, right? Wow, that's.. interesting.
 
2013-02-20 06:14:04 PM

cirby: Yeah, it was certainly Coolidge's fault that the Great Depression happened. No, wait, it wasn't.

When Black Tuesday hit, Roosevelt and the other Democrats in power increased government spending, shrank the monetary supply, fiddled with rules governing the labor market, and screwed around with banking regulations - pretty much undoing most of the things Coolidge had done, and causing what should have been a medium-sized recession to deepen and last most of a decade.

But it's all his fault, you see. Somehow. Just like the current insane spending and other stupid decisions by the Democrats are still Bush's fault. Somehow.


They see me trollin, they hatin....
 
2013-02-20 06:15:00 PM

cirby: When Black Tuesday hit, Roosevelt and the other Democrats in power increased government spending


Psssst....

Seriously, don't let reality get in the way of a good rant.  I hope you don't get too much beer rain from those plaid skies in your world...
 
2013-02-20 06:15:46 PM
Though it's also clear that thestatist policies of Hoover and Roosevelt turned the downturn into a Great Depression.

Yeah, because things turned completely to shiat in 9 short months... I guess I shouldn't be too surprised that they think this. They also think Obama could fix everything in a year's time.
 
2013-02-20 06:17:03 PM
Now there are two approved Republican President, and neither is Lincoln, Eisenhower or Roosevelt.
 
2013-02-20 06:20:49 PM

spongeboob: Now there are two approved Republican President, and neither is Lincoln, Eisenhower or Roosevelt.


Wait, they hate Teddy now, too? Why? Was it the protection of our national parks? Was it the attempts at trust-busting? Was it inviting a black guy to dinner at the White House?
 
2013-02-20 06:21:13 PM

spongeboob: Now there are two approved Republican President, and neither is Lincoln, Eisenhower or Roosevelt.


That's a good point; why don't today's Republicans want to latch onto Eisenhower more? Was he not insane enough on social policy?
 
2013-02-20 06:23:16 PM

insano: spongeboob: Now there are two approved Republican President, and neither is Lincoln, Eisenhower or Roosevelt.

That's a good point; why don't today's Republicans want to latch onto Eisenhower more? Was he not insane enough on social policy?


Quick, somebody post that quote where he said that only complete lunatics would try to destroy Social Security. That should answer this question nicely.
 
2013-02-20 06:26:13 PM

Smelly McUgly: spongeboob: Now there are two approved Republican President, and neither is Lincoln, Eisenhower or Roosevelt.

Wait, they hate Teddy now, too? Why? Was it the protection of our national parks? Was it the attempts at trust-busting? Was it inviting a black guy to dinner at the White House?


Teddy Roosevelt was a liberal, for his day (seriously...the guy founded the "Progressive Party")
 
2013-02-20 06:28:12 PM
I'm pretty sure the Rothschilds caused this depression, much like the Great Depression.
 
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