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(The New Republic)   Take this Microbrew and Shove It. Why all those crappy towns bragging about their hipster districts and artisan burritos and up-and-coming brewpub scenes are really not that cool   (newrepublic.com) divider line 290
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2013-02-20 12:45:14 PM  
Applebee's serves Budweiser.
 
2013-02-20 12:45:19 PM  
Summary: I used to be with it but then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it and what's it seems weird  and scary to me.
 
2013-02-20 12:45:47 PM  

j.lunatic: cgraves67: I'll still take variety over conformity even if it means that some of the variety is subpar.

Except that these provincial wannabe Portlands are all racing to conform to a template that actually squeezes out variety. As long as it means I can get good beer and food, and there's a club that books the bands that I want to see, I don't mind too much. But do admit that these local scenes aren't developing anything unique, they're trying to create instant Brooklyns.


They may be conforming to another model, but it's a model with some built-in variety. Consider the alternative landscape of McDonalds, Applebees, and Bud Light that these types of places are replacing.
 
2013-02-20 12:45:51 PM  

busy chillin': Applebee's serves Budweiser.


Let's order something "grilled".
 
2013-02-20 12:46:33 PM  

tricycleracer: busy chillin': Applebee's serves Budweiser.

Let's order something "grilled".


Eatin' good in the neighborhood!
 
2013-02-20 12:47:07 PM  

busy chillin': tricycleracer: busy chillin': Applebee's serves Budweiser.

Let's order something "grilled".

Eatin' good in the neighborhood!


http://www.theonion.com/video/new-ad-urges-hipsters-to-go-to-applebe es -ironicall,28721/
 
kab
2013-02-20 12:47:26 PM  

belhade: Wow. they put Poughkeepsie in that article. Cool? Hipster? No, still pretty much trash.

Though you may want to drive a few more minutes north up Route 9.

[www.hydeparkbrewing.moonfruit.com image 525x269]


They moved?   Did they not used to be south of the city, or am I imagining things?

/haven't been down that way in years.
 
2013-02-20 12:47:48 PM  
Oh noes!  Does this mean that this whiney bastard won't be moving to my town which is generally recognized as cool and has lots of good beer?  How will we ever survive?  I hope he let's the people who live her know, so that they can leave too. Otherwise, how will they ever learn that they don't live somewhere cool?

/bah
//author sounds fat and angry
 
2013-02-20 12:47:53 PM  
You know why I hate hipster places? Because everyone goes to hiptser places. Everyone tries to be "cool" by eating at these restaurants and drinking at their bars. Sure, the food is pretty good. But the crowds and wait times absolutely kill it. And, having to hear everyone say "OMG OMG OMG! If you haven't eaten at XXX, then you haven't lived! They name their chickens before they kill em. They only use locally grown XXXX" It's a formula to get people to come to your place. And yes, it can work out, but I just want to have a restaurant that says "here I am, come and eat" and stops trying to be pretentious about their "story" and the ingredients and the story they are trying to tell with their ingredients.
 
2013-02-20 12:48:09 PM  
hmmmm, I'm guessing he's 'in to' cute hipster chicks, but can't pull off that look, or isn't cool enough to bag one. It's ok guy, they have the mental maturity of a 12 year old, unless that's your bag baby.
 
2013-02-20 12:50:16 PM  
I thought the point of this article is that constantly naming new "It Cities" is pretty dumb. I would have thought that the average farker would be 100% behind this point. Am I totally off base here?
 
2013-02-20 12:50:26 PM  

belhade: Wow. they put Poughkeepsie in that article. Cool? Hipster? No, still pretty much trash.

Though you may want to drive a few more minutes north up Route 9.

[www.hydeparkbrewing.moonfruit.com image 525x269]


Hyde Park Brewing.  Nice choice.  Though I'm more partial to Keegan's.  Mothers Milk is rather tasty.
 
2013-02-20 12:51:04 PM  

tricycleracer: busy chillin': tricycleracer: busy chillin': Applebee's serves Budweiser.

Let's order something "grilled".

Eatin' good in the neighborhood!

http://www.theonion.com/video/new-ad-urges-hipsters-to-go-to-applebe es -ironicall,28721/


That was great
 
2013-02-20 12:51:12 PM  

dc0012c: I'll take insufferable hipsterism anyday if it means that we don't go back to the days when Becks and Bass were high-end imports and the only place that made hamburgers with fresh beef was your house. F*ck whether it's "cool" or not, the US dining and drinking scene has improved in leaps and bounds in the last 20 years as towns of all sizes try to emulate the quality and diversity of places known for it. Get over the "hipster" vibe and enjoy a good IPA and an avocado mushroom burger.


Why would you drink an IPA with an avocado mushroom burger?  The hops will overbear on the avocado.  Savage.
A true pilsner, koelsch style, or black lager would work much better with the mushroom and avocado.
 
2013-02-20 12:51:29 PM  

dc0012c: I'll take insufferable hipsterism anyday if it means that we don't go back to the days when Becks and Bass were high-end imports and the only place that made hamburgers with fresh beef was your house. F*ck whether it's "cool" or not, the US dining and drinking scene has improved in leaps and bounds in the last 20 years as towns of all sizes try to emulate the quality and diversity of places known for it. Get over the "hipster" vibe and enjoy a good IPA and an avocado mushroom burger.


This.  With the exception of avocado on a burger.
 
2013-02-20 12:52:47 PM  
I for one like hanging out where you can get a good beer, decent food, good music, and be around people with similar interests and age. Does that make me a hipster? I doubt it, but keep farking that "OMGhipsterssuck" chicken, middle aged boring guy.
 
2013-02-20 12:53:09 PM  

kidgenius: but I just want to have a restaurant that says "here I am, come and eat" and stops trying to be pretentious about their "story" and the ingredients and the story they are trying to tell with their ingredients.


i believe they call that the "olive garden" and they can be found in many of the nations more classical strip mall locations.
 
2013-02-20 12:54:26 PM  

Xcott: It's the hipster version of "this food sucks and the portions are too small."


Well said.
 
2013-02-20 12:54:42 PM  
bluefox3681:
A true pilsner, koelsch style, or black lager .

Dear lord, NO.

I have yet to taste one that didn't taste like a glorified Budwiser.

Ales, Stouts, or GTFO
 
2013-02-20 12:55:13 PM  

NASAM: dc0012c: I'll take insufferable hipsterism anyday if it means that we don't go back to the days when Becks and Bass were high-end imports and the only place that made hamburgers with fresh beef was your house. F*ck whether it's "cool" or not, the US dining and drinking scene has improved in leaps and bounds in the last 20 years as towns of all sizes try to emulate the quality and diversity of places known for it. Get over the "hipster" vibe and enjoy a good IPA and an avocado mushroom burger.

This.  With the exception of avocado on a burger.


And let me add cilantro, cilantro should only be used sparingly, as in half a tea spoon, not a handful over the plate.
 
2013-02-20 12:55:51 PM  

tlchwi02: kidgenius: but I just want to have a restaurant that says "here I am, come and eat" and stops trying to be pretentious about their "story" and the ingredients and the story they are trying to tell with their ingredients.

i believe they call that the "olive garden" and they can be found in many of the nations more classical strip mall locations.


Ya know, Olive Garden isn't really terrible. Is it great food? Hell no. Is it serviceable? Sure. But at the same time, you can still have a restaurant making great food that isn't an olive garden, but also isn't trying to be pretentious about not trying to be pretentious.
 
2013-02-20 12:57:35 PM  
San Diego is a great food town, but I can see where it can get a "hispster" moniker...wouldn't be from Gaslamp though.  More likely Pacific Beach, Ocean Beach, Northpark or Mission Hills (Urban Solace, Bleu Bistro).

I do like the variety of beers available in local liquor stores as well as "normal" bars and pubs.
 
2013-02-20 12:57:39 PM  
blog.treadmilldoctor.com

"Oh look.  You're actually proud of your town's local food and culture.  You'll still never be as cool as me."
 
2013-02-20 12:57:48 PM  
Privy to the best beers in the world......Thanks Maumee Bay Brewery and Jon for makin'  them. Something good about Toledo ;)
 
2013-02-20 12:58:16 PM  
I'm glad I don't drink beer any more.  I just drink the hard stuff to forget about what a shiatty day I had.
 
2013-02-20 12:58:21 PM  
if I had a believable european accent I'd go into these hipster bars with their obscure beers, order one, say it tastes like shiat and go on a rant about how great european beer is, order coors light, and say this is not a bad american beer.
if they had lenses in their hipster glasses they'd be fogged over from the anger.
 
2013-02-20 12:58:24 PM  
Is this the guy after whom The Onion modeled their editorial cartoonist "Kelly"? What an annoying prick.
 
2013-02-20 12:59:12 PM  

theflatline: NASAM: dc0012c: I'll take insufferable hipsterism anyday if it means that we don't go back to the days when Becks and Bass were high-end imports and the only place that made hamburgers with fresh beef was your house. F*ck whether it's "cool" or not, the US dining and drinking scene has improved in leaps and bounds in the last 20 years as towns of all sizes try to emulate the quality and diversity of places known for it. Get over the "hipster" vibe and enjoy a good IPA and an avocado mushroom burger.

This.  With the exception of avocado on a burger.

And let me add cilantro, cilantro should only be used sparingly, as in half a tea spoon, not a handful over the plate.


I'd appreciate if modern cuisine would decide salt is not some weak-flavored herb that has to be piled into every dish. The farking French even put crystals of it in their caramels.
 
2013-02-20 01:01:38 PM  

kidgenius: You know why I hate hipster places? Because everyone goes to hiptser places. Everyone tries to be "cool" by eating at these restaurants and drinking at their bars. Sure, the food is pretty good. But the crowds and wait times absolutely kill it. And, having to hear everyone say "OMG OMG OMG! If you haven't eaten at XXX, then you haven't lived! They name their chickens before they kill em. They only use locally grown XXXX" It's a formula to get people to come to your place. And yes, it can work out, but I just want to have a restaurant that says "here I am, come and eat" and stops trying to be pretentious about their "story" and the ingredients and the story they are trying to tell with their ingredients.


When I was at Purdue I would eat  at XXX every Saturday with my wife.  If you haven't had their breakfast you haven't lived.

castorrated.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-20 01:02:56 PM  
Done in 2.
 
2013-02-20 01:03:04 PM  

HollandRivers: Privy to the best beers in the world......Thanks Maumee Bay Brewery and Jon for makin'  them. Something good about Toledo ;)


Oh hell fark yeah. I love Maumee Bay and the resurrected Buckeye Beer. The rest of their stuff is great too. I need to get some, somehow.
 
2013-02-20 01:04:35 PM  

CoonAce: Well, gentrified brewpubs ARE douchebag magnets.


That might depend on the town. Some towns just have way too many DBs (and not enough brewpubs to spread 'em out).
 
2013-02-20 01:05:44 PM  

SurelyShirley: CoonAce: Well, gentrified brewpubs ARE douchebag magnets.

That might depend on the town. Some towns just have way too many DBs (and not enough brewpubs to spread 'em out).


That's no way to talk about Boston.
 
2013-02-20 01:06:15 PM  
So, in other words, Hipsters are overwhelmingly democratic voters.  Gotcha.  We should all hate them.  Never mind that you can just eat the good food and drink the good beer and forget about the rest of that crap, no we need to be REAL Americans and eat shiat and drink pisswater light.

Why are republicans against small businesses?  I thought they were pro small businesses.
 
2013-02-20 01:06:36 PM  

satanorsanta: kidgenius: You know why I hate hipster places? Because everyone goes to hiptser places. Everyone tries to be "cool" by eating at these restaurants and drinking at their bars. Sure, the food is pretty good. But the crowds and wait times absolutely kill it. And, having to hear everyone say "OMG OMG OMG! If you haven't eaten at XXX, then you haven't lived! They name their chickens before they kill em. They only use locally grown XXXX" It's a formula to get people to come to your place. And yes, it can work out, but I just want to have a restaurant that says "here I am, come and eat" and stops trying to be pretentious about their "story" and the ingredients and the story they are trying to tell with their ingredients.

When I was at Purdue I would eat  at XXX every Saturday with my wife.  If you haven't had their breakfast you haven't lived.

[castorrated.files.wordpress.com image 300x201]


Ha.  I thought of the the XXX in Lafayette when I read that as well.  That's a must stop whenever I'm in town.
 
2013-02-20 01:07:41 PM  

trotsky: Lumpmoose: As in all It Cities, Portland's status is codified by its need for recognition from outsiders, embellished by how effectively it commercializes that attention, and sustained by the intensity of its need to prove that you don't have to live in New York or L.A. to be surrounded by awesome musicians, world-class theater, and pretentious Sazerac culture.

Except that you sort of do.

Ah, there's the punchline: "Everywhere except NYC and LA suck."  He sounds miserable so hopefully he'll just stay home next time.

If this jackass wants banal, boring culture, I kindly invite him to Rapid shiatty, South Dakota. His stupid pretentious ass will do what I want to do: blow my brains out rather than imagine the next 30 years here. I would kill to move back to East Tennessee. I'm trying but am having no luck.


Come to Sioux Falls. It's like Rapid City with less tourists and things to do. Also, close proximity to the Cities helps.

Picked up a growler of Surly Furious last week. That was some damn good IPA.

/yay beer snob thread
 
2013-02-20 01:07:44 PM  

Lando Lincoln: I really do not know which is worse - places that are desperately trying to be cool or journalists that think they're above them.


Well, the important thing is that you've found a way to feel superior to both

/http://xkcd.com/774/
 
2013-02-20 01:07:47 PM  
I think a lot of posters so far have missed most the points of the article.  The author is basically saying the following...

1. The brew pud district and indy band shows that your city has aren't special or unique.  Dozens and dozens of other cities across the country have the same thing going on.
2. Youth culture, by virtue of inexperience, doesn't always know what the finer, more enjoyable things in life are.
3. Hipsterism isn't cool.  It might not be "uncool", but if you classify something that everyone is doing as "cool", then it looses any meaning.
4. Cities seem to be obsessed with convincing outsiders that they really are cooler than other cities.
 
2013-02-20 01:09:09 PM  

positronica


1. The brew pud district


Freudian slip is Freudian.
 
2013-02-20 01:11:07 PM  
I thought the author was mad because now people in every decently sized city can have hamburgers with cheeses other than American and beers that don't come from Coors or Anheiser Busch.
 
2013-02-20 01:11:55 PM  
I stopped reading as soon as the author equated craft beer with hipsterdom.
 
2013-02-20 01:12:24 PM  
Sunset magazine is always featuring the new trendiest spots for funny named food and beverages.
 
2013-02-20 01:13:48 PM  

kidgenius: You know why I hate hipster places? Because everyone goes to hiptser places. Everyone tries to be "cool" by eating at these restaurants and drinking at their bars. Sure, the food is pretty good. But the crowds and wait times absolutely kill it. And, having to hear everyone say "OMG OMG OMG! If you haven't eaten at XXX, then you haven't lived! They name their chickens before they kill em. They only use locally grown XXXX" It's a formula to get people to come to your place. And yes, it can work out, but I just want to have a restaurant that says "here I am, come and eat" and stops trying to be pretentious about their "story" and the ingredients and the story they are trying to tell with their ingredients.


It's what pisses me off about hipster food places, granted there are some that are experimenting and trying new things but can be knock off the long-winded personal screeds already!

Or selling the "atmosphere" instead of concentrating on your dishes, I don't care how twee your restaurant is, I want good food, in reasonable portions (DO NOT give me a meatball-sized hamburger*) for a good price.

/*School in Toronto, thankfully I wasn't paying for that lunch
//http://www.yelp.ca/biz/school-bakery-and-cafe-toronto-2
 
2013-02-20 01:13:50 PM  
I'm not really getting the author's point, unless it's Cranky Curmudgeon Would Prefer Bud Lite & Frozen Pizza To Fresh, Locally-Made Food & Beer.
 
2013-02-20 01:14:31 PM  
Artisanal ice cream, gluten-free pizza, burrito trucks run by real Mexicans, jalapeño-infused margaritas, celebrity graffiti sprayers, and First Thursday art walks in revitalized industrial zones promoted by farsighted civic planners armed with government tax schemes-these are the totems of It City.

So burrito trucks run by real Mexicans is a sign of being a hip city? The Chamber of Commerce in every California Central Valley town are going to be ecstatic at this revelation. Can't tell you how many times I've drove by Chowchilla on Hgwy 99 and not realized that it was an It City.
 
2013-02-20 01:16:32 PM  
It's okay, Fark. Hipsters are not going to invade your mom's basement.
 
2013-02-20 01:16:38 PM  

Snargi: Artisanal ice cream, gluten-free pizza, burrito trucks run by real Mexicans, jalapeño-infused margaritas, celebrity graffiti sprayers, and First Thursday art walks in revitalized industrial zones promoted by farsighted civic planners armed with government tax schemes-these are the totems of It City.

So burrito trucks run by real Mexicans is a sign of being a hip city? The Chamber of Commerce in every California Central Valley town are is going to be ecstatic at this revelation. Can't tell you how many times I've drove by Chowchilla on Hgwy 99 and not realized that it was an It City.


/Forgot to preview before adding
 
2013-02-20 01:18:40 PM  

deanis: I for one like hanging out where you can get a good beer, decent food, good music, and be around people with similar interests and age. Does that make me a hipster? I doubt it, but keep farking that "OMGhipsterssuck" chicken, middle aged boring guy.


If you hang out with hipsters, go to hipster bars, eat hipster food, drink hipster beer, listen to hipster music and get offended when people call you a hipster, you are a hipster.
 
2013-02-20 01:18:43 PM  

CoonAce: Well, gentrified brewpubs ARE douchebag magnets.


For the most part I'd have to say... THIS.
 
2013-02-20 01:18:54 PM  

dc0012c: I'll take insufferable hipsterism anyday if it means that we don't go back to the days when Becks and Bass were high-end imports and the only place that made hamburgers with fresh beef was your house. F*ck whether it's "cool" or not, the US dining and drinking scene has improved in leaps and bounds in the last 20 years as towns of all sizes try to emulate the quality and diversity of places known for it. Get over the "hipster" vibe and enjoy a good IPA and an avocado mushroom burger.


this this and more this.

After having a Bell's Hopslam and an Avocado Burger, I'm never going back.  NEVER!
 
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