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(Daily Mail)   Lesbians in England will soon get free fertility treatment, or so I've just read through my binoculars   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 89
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2013-02-20 12:30:47 PM
If you need the government to pay for your fertility treatment maybe just maybe you shouldn't have a child.
 
2013-02-20 12:41:47 PM
I would think that english lesbians would be more concerned about getting dental care for their partners first. Something could get inadvertently piereced
 
2013-02-20 01:03:16 PM
Look at these degenerates getting free tax dollars off the back of pensioners like you.  While you're doing things proper, these "women" are getting breaks for doing things wrong.

It really gobsmacks me, it does!  And it should gobsmack you!
 
2013-02-20 01:05:49 PM
For every lesbian who is getting fertility treatments, there is at least one gay man who isn't. So it all evens out.
 
2013-02-20 01:07:03 PM
If this is available to heterosexual couples of the same age range I see no issues with it.  One criteria; however, would be whether or not the couple has sufficient income to support the child on their own.  If you're already on welfare then sorry you wouldn't qualify for this procedure regardless of your sexual orientation.
 
2013-02-20 01:09:23 PM
So, what you're saying is; the tax payer is paying to ruin the lives of childless lesbians by giving them free IVF? Surely, there are less expensive ways to ruin the lives of childless lesbians. Perhaps, some sort of donation system can be worked out.

/ I volunteer if they are hot and can't sue me for child support.
 
2013-02-20 01:09:26 PM
This is outrageous. I'm sure there are many men out there who would be more than willing to knock up a lesbian couple free of charge. Both at the same time, too.
 
2013-02-20 01:10:43 PM
state funded fertility treatment? You suck, UK
 
2013-02-20 01:11:21 PM

NuttierThanEver: I would think that english lesbians would be more concerned about getting dental care for their partners first. Something could get inadvertently piereced


That's stereotype that is no longer accurate. Since WWII the whole of britain has infused their water supplies with fluoride. Since 1952, England has provided free dental care to all it's citizens, unlike the US.

80% of the English population has 99% of their teeth, most in what is considered an Edwardian era dental structure, that is no gaps, no crooked frontal teeth.

I dare you to show a pic of an englishman with poor teeth.
 
2013-02-20 01:12:05 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: If you need the government to pay for your fertility treatment maybe just maybe you shouldn't have a child.


I think the point of the nanny state is to provide free nannies so both parents can work
 
2013-02-20 01:12:54 PM

Master Sphincter: NuttierThanEver: I would think that english lesbians would be more concerned about getting dental care for their partners first. Something could get inadvertently piereced

That's stereotype that is no longer accurate. Since WWII the whole of britain has infused their water supplies with fluoride. Since 1952, England has provided free dental care to all it's citizens, unlike the US.

80% of the English population has 99% of their teeth, most in what is considered an Edwardian era dental structure, that is no gaps, no crooked frontal teeth.

I dare you to show a pic of an englishman with poor teeth.


orthodontia, however, is just starting to catch on ;)
 
2013-02-20 01:13:25 PM
I'm envisioning a stereotypical lesbian going into labour and damn-near turning hulk green with man-hatred.
I'd be afraid to walk by that hospital - even in full body armour with an extra helmet over my balls.

/misogynist hyperbole
 
2013-02-20 01:14:19 PM
So, a good rogering? A little bit of the ol' inoutinout?
 
2013-02-20 01:14:23 PM
Then again, we get so much Nanny State-esque news coming from the UK, it's a mixed bag, really.
 
2013-02-20 01:15:44 PM
Gay steamroller in action
 
2013-02-20 01:17:33 PM
Uggos shouldn't breed.  Poor England, always the ugliest country.
 
2013-02-20 01:17:39 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: If you need the government to pay for your fertility treatment maybe just maybe you shouldn't have a child.


It's currently an untapped market; they're just responding to market forces. WHY DO YOU HATE MARKETS?

/sigh
 
2013-02-20 01:19:13 PM
Big deal, any guy would gladly give free "fertility treatment" to a lesbian.
 
2013-02-20 01:19:35 PM
Nothing is ever free. Someone else is paying for it. Like you.
 
2013-02-20 01:20:19 PM
Brought to you by the people who invented teabags.
 
2013-02-20 01:20:27 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: If you need the government to pay for your fertility treatment maybe just maybe you shouldn't have a child.


You do not seem to understand that the tax payer is bottomless pit of money capable of financing free everything for everybody

The fact that you are even suggesting that parenthood be reserved for those able to meet the financial obligations of it instead of imposing those responsiblites on the tax payers sound elitists and is perhaps an attempt to deprive the Labor party (or Democrats in the US) of its future voting base.
 
2013-02-20 01:21:06 PM
tax and spend, tax and spend
 
2013-02-20 01:24:36 PM

DickDarlington: Big deal, any guy would gladly give free "fertility treatment" to a lesbian.


Only if you ejaculate gonadotrophins.
 
2013-02-20 01:25:59 PM

DickDarlington: Big deal, any guy would gladly give free "fertility treatment" to a lesbian.


No, no... you are a wallet.
 
2013-02-20 01:26:17 PM

farm machine: If this is available to heterosexual couples of the same age range I see no issues with it.


I'd have issues with it no matter who was getting it.

IVF and fertility treatments are really expensive procedures, and more to the point, they are purely elective procedures.  No one needsIVF to correct a medical problem or improve their health or wellness.  Not seeing how this is justified from a public health perspective.  If anything, pregnancy increases health risks and causes more health complications than would otherwise occur.

I'm all in favor of socialized medicine.  I'd like to have single payer here in the US.  But these sort of elective procedures aren't the sorts of things public money should be spent on, regardless of whether the recipients are gay or straight.  Public money is finite and I am sure that it could be put to more pressing public health matters.
 
2013-02-20 01:27:44 PM

potterydove: Uggos shouldn't breed.  Poor England, always the ugliest country.


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Yeeee-ah. Sumpin' about glass houses.
 
2013-02-20 01:28:08 PM
it is possible that you can afford to raise a child and not be able to afford fertility treatments...fertility treatments are expensive...
 
2013-02-20 01:28:36 PM

cgraves67: This is outrageous. I'm sure there are many men out there who would be more than willing to knock up a lesbian couple free of charge. Both at the same time, too.


I'm guessing that your knowledge of what lesbians look like comes from movies where plumbers are involved?
 
2013-02-20 01:32:16 PM

Rapmaster2000: Look at these degenerates getting free tax dollars off the back of pensioners like you.  While you're doing things proper, these "women" are getting breaks for doing things wrong.

It really gobsmacks me, it does!  And it should gobsmack you!


Sadly, I have no more gob to smack.
 
2013-02-20 01:35:57 PM

Rapmaster2000: Look at these degenerates getting free tax dollars off the back of pensioners like you.  While you're doing things proper, these "women" are getting breaks for doing things wrong.

It really gobsmacks me, it does!  And it should gobsmack you!


Belittling a real problem with smugness? How Obama of you. If one needs government assistance to get pregnant, one has no business becoming a parent.
 
2013-02-20 01:37:31 PM
Dear god, British lesbians are even uglier than regular lesbians!
 
2013-02-20 01:38:24 PM

oldfarthenry: Yeeee-ah. Sumpin' about glass houses.


I think you just threw down the gauntlet as it were, but I'm going in the opposite direction:

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USA USA USA!!
 
2013-02-20 01:38:29 PM
Maybe a liitle training would help.

pointlessbanter.net
 
2013-02-20 01:43:22 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com
Great, more crap from the Daily Mail trumping up moocher arguments.
 
2013-02-20 01:53:46 PM

tuxq: Rapmaster2000: Look at these degenerates getting free tax dollars off the back of pensioners like you.  While you're doing things proper, these "women" are getting breaks for doing things wrong.

It really gobsmacks me, it does!  And it should gobsmack you!

Belittling a real problem with smugness? How Obama of you. If one needs government assistance to get pregnant, one has no business becoming a parent.


This is the UK. Maybe you have a point maybe not. But where does it start and stop?

If you can't put your burning house out you don't get government assistance

If you can't catch the murder yourself you don't get government assistance

If you can't teach yourself to read you don't get government assistance

If you can't build a road you don't get government assistance

It would be kind of cool to just rip everything up and tear everything down and start over, with the citizens paying for and building bridges on their own. The bootstraps would be glorious.
 
2013-02-20 01:54:35 PM

tuxq: Rapmaster2000: Look at these degenerates getting free tax dollars off the back of pensioners like you.  While you're doing things proper, these "women" are getting breaks for doing things wrong.

It really gobsmacks me, it does!  And it should gobsmack you!

Belittling a real problem with smugness? How Obama of you. If one needs government assistance to get pregnant, one has no business becoming a parent.


Yeah, what a real problem.  This is the realest problem going on in Britain right now.  I couldn't think of 100 things more real than this.

How's that for belittling with smugness.  I like the Obama thing though.  It's good that you realize that both Obama and I think we're better than you.
 
2013-02-20 01:55:45 PM

Rapmaster2000: Look at these degenerates getting free tax dollars off the back of pensioners like you.  While you're doing things proper, these "women" are getting breaks for doing things wrong.

It really gobsmacks me, it does!  And it should gobsmack you!


Damnit, Poe'd again!
 
2013-02-20 01:56:08 PM
Master Sphincter:

I dare you to show a pic of an englishman with poor teeth.

Let me break out the Big Book of British Smiles!
http://deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/thebigbookofbrit is hsmiles_thumb.png?w=582&h=480
 
2013-02-20 01:58:12 PM
TFA: 'Our approach to IVF and donor insemination should take account of the child's needs, not just the desires of women who want children.
'Children have a right to a father as well as a mother. We can't just airbrush dads out of the picture.
'They are essential for children's wellbeing. Many women do a great job of bringing up children single-handedly.
'But...we shouldn't be intentionally creating circumstances where children miss out on having a dad.'


Keep your fancy-schmancy psychological research findings and common sense out of this.  Human rights are entirely about one thing: Me getting what I want.
 
2013-02-20 01:58:33 PM
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2013-02-20 01:58:42 PM

DickDarlington: Big deal, any guy would gladly give free "fertility treatment" to a lesbian.


We're talking actual lesbians here, not Porntacular Fantasy Lesbians(TM).

Which reminds me.
www.explosm.net
I'm hungry.
 
2013-02-20 02:01:03 PM

Snarfangel: Rapmaster2000: Look at these degenerates getting free tax dollars off the back of pensioners like you.  While you're doing things proper, these "women" are getting breaks for doing things wrong.

It really gobsmacks me, it does!  And it should gobsmack you!

Sadly, I have no more gob to smack.


I, too, am fresh out of gob.  I am absolutely gobless.
 
2013-02-20 02:02:19 PM
I have a lot of gob to smack...so much even, you could say I have gobs of gob.
 
2013-02-20 02:04:03 PM

Son of Thunder: TFA: 'Our approach to IVF and donor insemination should take account of the child's needs, not just the desires of women who want children.
'Children have a right to a father as well as a mother. We can't just airbrush dads out of the picture.
'They are essential for children's wellbeing. Many women do a great job of bringing up children single-handedly.
'But...we shouldn't be intentionally creating circumstances where children miss out on having a dad.'

Keep your fancy-schmancy psychological research findings and common sense out of this.  Human rights are entirely about one thing: Me getting what I want.


Actually, while there is good evidence than two parents are better than one, I'm not aware of any actual research demonstrating that one father and one mother is better than two fathers or two mothers.  So, feel free to lay it on me if you have any.
 
2013-02-20 02:13:58 PM
I can lend some blobs of gob
 
2013-02-20 02:14:13 PM
Subby's dreams of a British lesbian thread dashed to bits. Fark, you disappoint. What a British lesbian may look like [fill in blank]

/not subby
 
2013-02-20 02:14:21 PM
*brushes out mutton-chops, grabs pen and parchment, fixes monocle*

"Dear Sirs:

I am vexed -- most considerably vexed! -- at the arbitrary contrivances the Public Purse is being asked to fund solely for the propogation purposes of society spinsters who place the bar for male companionship out-of-reach of even the most landed gentry.   How those of the Fairer Sex have been allowed to dictate policy on the spending of Her Majefty's sums for such selfishishness is an outrage to those in Proper Society.  Each of these women should be taken aside, strongly spoken to by their male betters, then thoroughly rogered according to Common Law and Precedent.

Sincerely,
Wiliam J. Starchshirt, Esq."
 
2013-02-20 02:15:51 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: If you need the government to pay for your fertility treatment maybe just maybe you shouldn't have a child.


Or maybe you should try farking a man ?

Finding penises or men disgusting isn't a medical condition.

As the number of rape-instigated children proves, you don't have to like the sperm donor to get pregnant if he farks you.
 
2013-02-20 02:19:40 PM
Maybe I'm just getting old and cranky but I don't think we should be subsidizing fertility treatments for anyone.  If you can afford it yourself then by all means be my guest.  But we've got enough children in this world to take care of already without paying for people to have more.  If you can't have a child naturally then adopt or pay a surrogate.  But being able to get pregnant isn't a natural right and if nature doesn't want you to be pregnant then just maybe you should listen and lend a helping hand to the children who are already here.
 
2013-02-20 02:21:32 PM
Came for "what an impregnatable lesbian may look like..."

...eh, well Miss Lebanon works, too.

Leaving satisfied.
 
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